Archive: 44 posts

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Not properly site feedback, but a community concern. A serious one. "I hate this "ELITE" word that I read more and more often around the forums, around LBP. It makes me sick, it makes me puke. That word doesn't make the Community better at all. I really despise it. Yeah, there are better and worse creators, so what? Is it a reason to rub it in people face every moment?" End of rant.

2011-07-20 08:06:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Yeah, I totally agree. I can't stand those stupid space trading computer games either.

2011-07-20 09:59:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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I concur. Darn you Acornsoft!!! *shakes fist* But seriously, I haven't noticed anything. *shrug*

2011-07-20 10:10:00 Author: midnight_heist Posts: 2513

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I agree with you I hate it to.

2011-07-20 13:48:00 Author: zzmorg82 Posts: 948

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Ok, let's open an "Anti Elite" group Kidding, seriously, this thing has to stop soon. Remove from the signatures those stupid elite thingies and move forward. I think that it's a way of bad not direct rudeness that can easily be avoided. If there would ever be an Elite, the love of players would say it, not some pixels on a sig.

2011-07-20 14:05:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Oh wow.. I thought all those were saying E-Lite. Actually funnier if you read it that way.

2011-07-20 14:11:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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We wonder why people at LBL think we are a bunch of elitists. It's because of groups like these. Not to slam the group, but it really gives off a bad impression.

2011-07-20 14:14:00 Author: Captain_Dinosaur Posts: 214

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What leaves me like WTF is when I see that word in nice people's signatures. People that I know and are humble people, but with that word just fuel unconsciously (I hope) a bad situation and impression.

2011-07-20 14:22:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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I agree that elite is kind of unfitting with LBP in general...

2011-07-20 14:24:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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I've only notice like maybe two people who ever go around using that word?

2011-07-20 14:35:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Doesn't bother me. I never read peoples signatures. I don't judge a persons creator worthiness based on there creator hearts, I don't assume that a person with "lint" below their name don't have anything constructive to offer. I read their comments and respond. So, doesn't really bother me.

2011-07-20 14:50:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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It's honestly not too hard to ignore or a very big deal. Less than a frame in the movie of life. In truth, it's not serious either.

2011-07-20 16:07:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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Like the pic in my sig? Makes you wanna puke, huh? I dunno, elite is pretty strong of a word, but hey, we're not sayin' I'm elite and you suck... EDIT: do you consider me nice

2011-07-20 17:05:00 Author: Unknown User

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Thats why I don't have a signature.

2011-07-20 17:08:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Personally, I find the "anti-X" groups, hatemongers, and "LBP is serious business" types much more divisive and negative to the community than people who use the word "elite". Besides, being elite is overrated. Being super extreme master elite to the max is what's in this year.

2011-07-20 17:08:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536

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Like the pic in my sig? Makes you wanna puke, huh? I dunno, elite is pretty strong of a word, but hey, we're not sayin' I'm elite and you suck... EDIT: do you consider me nice I believe that's what they're talking about, but you're fine. It's called freedom of expression and it is not hurting anyone. It's just showing you're affiliation with a group and whatnot. It may annoy some people, but as long as you aren't going around putting people down and saying you're better than anyone else, you'll be perfectly fine. I agree with Gilga, LBP should not be taken this seriously. When the word "elite" becomes frowned upon, then it's definitely being taken too seriously.

2011-07-20 17:13:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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It's just showing you're affiliation with a group and whatnot. It may annoy some people, but as long as you aren't going around putting people down and saying you're better than anyone else, you'll be perfectly fine. Actually, by the very definition of the word, one who claims to be elite professes themselves to be superior to the majority. You can't redefine the English language just to make certain words sound more palatable to you.

2011-07-20 20:41:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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Okay, I did not word my last post well enough. When I said, "saying you're better than anyone else," my meaning was that the person would be posting around the forum leaving comments such as, "I am an elite creator, therefore I am better than you." Yes, the "Elite Creator" signature does imply that the person considers his- or herself to be superior, but even though something may be implied, it does not necessarily represent truth. You imply that I: ...redefine the English language just to make certain words sound more palatable to you. In truth, I am not attempting in any way to redefine the language to fit my argument. This makes your assumption false. Many of you assume that because the name of the group is CreatorsElite the members are all haughty and arrogant people. This is an incredible premature argument displaying the classic action of judging a book by its cover. Last I checked, the LBPC group had 60+ members. Quite a few of the members are kind, helpful, and important members of the community. Would you like to take a look at the member list? (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/group.php?do=viewmembers&groupid=911) Indeed, admission is based upon the discretion of one individual, but in all honesty, the admission guidelines are within reach of every member of this community. Some other groups have guidelines that must be followed, but those groups aren't frowned upon as often. I won't necessarily be able to join the "Girls of LBP" club and neither would many others in the community, yet it won't be as earth-shattering. I know what you guys are saying, I really do, but there's no reason for the opposition. The group has done nothing aside from band together to form group of creators under a name that a select number of people consider offensive. Why do the members of this community continually pick fights with the quiet pacifists?

2011-07-20 21:24:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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You can hide behind a text wall all you want, but the word elite is a word that puts a very bitter taste in peoples mouths. Regardless of the number of people in the group that grouped is still proclaiming themselves better than the general populace. Many of you assume that because the name of the group is CreatorsElite the members are all haughty and arrogant people. Don't go around putting words in peoples mouths (or letters on peoples keyboards). We aren't saying that they are arrogant, but what we are saying is who deemed them elite. Did MM suddenly swoop down, and proclaim them these so called "elite" creators. no. Then what gives them the right to call themselves that. In conclusion; The word elite is a word that leaves a bitter taste in peoples mouths, and gives off a bad impression about the community as a whole.

2011-07-20 22:06:00 Author: Captain_Dinosaur Posts: 214

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Suffixing every post you make wih, "btw, I'm better than you", may not be a bit deal, but it's the sort of thing that can easilly get on peeople's nerves. It's just really arrogant, and that tends to grate. If your gonna strut around with a badge that puts others' down, then really you've gotta expect someone to be put out by it. oh and by the way; I really am better than you.

2011-07-20 22:17:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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You can hide behind a text wall all you want, but the word elite is a word that puts a very bitter taste in peoples mouths. Regardless of the number of people in the group that grouped is still proclaiming themselves better than the general populace. I'm not hiding behind a wall of text, and it only puts a bitter taste in some peoples' mouths. Don't go around putting words in peoples mouths (or letters on peoples keyboards). We aren't saying that they are arrogant, but what we are saying is who deemed them elite. Did MM suddenly swoop down, and proclaim them these so called "elite" creators. no. Then what gives them the right to call themselves that. Excuse me for putting words in your mouth. It is what I've got out of this whole fiasco, and I know I'll get frowned upon for this, but why can they not call themselves elite? The freedom of expression and speech on the internet gives them the right to call themselves whatever they want to be called. There isn't even anything stopping anyone on this site from creating his or her own signature that says "CreatorElite" or "I'm the Best." In conclusion; The word elite is a word that leaves a bitter taste in peoples mouths, and gives off a bad impression about the community as a whole. Go ahead and quote me on this: The word elite does not give off as bad of an impression about the community as these constant, petty, complaint threads do. There is honestly a new thread every other day accusing other members of "doing this" or "doing that", because all it seems these people want to do is find something little wrong with their surroundings and start a thread to argue about it. Most of the time the argument is pathetic and misinformed or the problem is so small and pointless that it shouldn't even matter.

2011-07-20 22:39:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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So it doesn't give off a bad impression on the community eh? How about you go on down to LBL, and ask them what they think of the people here. As for your other points I'm just going to ignore them , because (A. You have obviously just gone into a anger fueled rant and I dont want any part of it. (B. You just aren't listening to other peoples points. You are merely bludgeoning them with anger.

2011-07-20 22:57:00 Author: Captain_Dinosaur Posts: 214

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Go ahead and quote me on this: The word elite does not give off as bad of an impression about the community as these constant, petty, complaint threads do. There is honestly a new thread every other day accusing other members of "doing this" or "doing that", because all it seems these people want to do is find something little wrong with their surroundings and start a thread to argue about it. Most of the time the argument is pathetic and misinformed or the problem is so small and pointless that it shouldn't even matter. Sure. In that case, I'll just go ahead and change my user name to LBP's Greatest Ever Creator. To accuse me of arrogance or delusional self-aggrandisement for placing myself atop such a lofty perch would just be petty, pathetic and misinformed, so you should really just accept it and move on. Ok?

2011-07-20 23:08:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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I honestly slightly disliked when there's "Elite" at the end of something in LBP, but it really just inspires me to create more. It makes me want to be part of that. Though, all of us in LBP are at an equal level, and should be treated equally. Sure, it bothers some people. But the users of the word don't mean at all to offend. And some may think it's not a big deal, but it can really feel degrading to others. So it can be a bad or a good thing. It really shows how one word can alter many things. Why doesn't everybody just put on their cool faces? AND I DON'T MEAN START TROLLING.

2011-07-21 00:37:00 Author: Sackpapoi Posts: 1195

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All your levels are belong to us!!! We are the Elite. Resistance is futile. Hey you worked how many hours on your level? psssh I did mine in 3. Don't come at me with your fail levels I'm better than you. Look at me.. No seriously..Look at me. You see that sig down there? It means I am better than you point blank. You just have to think about it from how the rest of the community sees it. Pretty jerky to run around with "Im Elite and your not" pasted on your forehead (or in this case signature).

2011-07-21 00:44:00 Author: Captain_Dinosaur Posts: 214

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Not properly site feedback, but a community concern. I've gone ahead and moved the thread... it's kinda in that grey area where it applies to the site, but is more of an overall LBP thing. Hope you don't mind. *backs away sheepishly*

2011-07-21 03:06:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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I think some of you are getting too upset over a little word. Even if these people are better creators than you and have a signature that says it, that doesn't mean they're trying to rub it in your face. Not all creators are equal. I don't think that the purpose of the signature is to put down others, but to have that little bit of pride for being one of the best there is. Being arrogant and being proud of your skill are not the same thing.

2011-07-21 03:34:00 Author: Marioface5 Posts: 73

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Oh, no wonder I haven't noticed this.. I have signatures turned off. *turns them on*

2011-07-21 05:13:00 Author: midnight_heist Posts: 2513

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Omega you are assuming that when someone calls another member elite that they are complimenting the person, when actually they are saying the person thinks they are great and acts like they are better than everyone. Protip: Elitists dont put 'Elite' in their sigs, they go into threads that debate elitism in lbp, argue that they are not elite, that threads debating elitism are petty, then say something like "Just because we are better than you..", "Just because we contribute more..", or "Just because MM likes us more/invites us to things..".

2011-07-21 05:22:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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This happens with everything, sadly. I just ignore it, really.

2011-07-21 05:26:00 Author: Tmjtk Posts: 258

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Putting yourself in a club called "Elite" sort of sentences that you want to separate from others. That is wrong. Then the elitism concept has ruined some people's experience in LBP. Some people being addressed as ELITE really suffered for that. And people now want to be addressed as elite. Seems crazyness to me, and this is NOT sparttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. *kicks everyone that gets close in a bottomless pit*

2011-07-21 06:24:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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I agree... I think Im a pretty darn good creator.. I do a bit of everything.. Except glitches and films XD and I can only assume Im judged by my hearts.. :/ So a big fancy golden sig with a giant "ELITE!" might actually help lol. Just kidding. I do remember seeing Ion Pulsar as one and I may sound like a suck up or something but I think her levels are some of the best in the game, like seriously.

2011-07-21 08:31:00 Author: Dortr Posts: 548

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To be honest, the word elite never actually bothered me. Then again, it may be due to the fact that I'm not very good at creating levels.

2011-07-21 08:40:00 Author: Unknown User

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This thread reads like a south park episode, stan makes up the super awesome club and ppl not invited get jealous, one ofc being stans father who makes he own super mega awesome club.... I don't know anyone in that elite club nor does it bother me it exists. *If* some are being smug dbags that's another story, then just treat them as such. But tbh, sounds like your taking it too seriously, it's really their own issue if they genuinely believe they are better than anyone else. I wish them luck with life, they are gonna need it!

2011-07-21 14:17:00 Author: Masseyf Posts: 226

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The point is that communities have some unwritten rules. In a community everyone has its job, everyone is important, and everyone is equal. Ranks don't exist, though what exist is respect and respect is not like a shirt that you can dress when you want, but something you earn with your hard work. This elite stuff creates only useless anger, suspected bias and stuff like that. So please stop the madness, and if people thinks it's a stupid, silly thing...well, one reason more to stop it.

2011-07-21 15:16:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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I agree with OmegaSlayer. If you wanna make a group.Why not make a 'Creative' Creators Group, like i'm in? Now 'creative' doesn't sound bad, besides, anyone can join it. It's not a private like elite creators said: ''First we have to test you skills by playing your best lvl.'' if you consider yourself creative. Then be proud. Creative obviously sounds kinder and nicer doesn't it? That's why i agree with Omega, and same other players who agree him. But still, it might be hateful, if someone writes a sig, or a post like: I'm creative, you're not! Well that sounds almost the same as 'Elite', right? But anyone who's really 'elite or expert' never calls himself pro, the best or elite. Like Steve_Big_Guns and many, many other creators. Now i don't know much about OmegaSlayer or jwwphotos, but i can easily tell they're honest and kind.

2011-07-21 16:12:00 Author: TheGoldenFlash Posts: 209

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Still think ur taking it much too seriously, it's a name they probably thought was cool at the time. The only way ranks can exist is if people (that includes you) give it acknowledgement. You want everyone to be treated equally, that's a lovely idea, do that and hope for it in return. If someone tries some BS, call them on it. Did something actually go down that's caused this reaction? (I'm going to feel like an *** if some of these folks have been throwing smug around >.<, I'm new, don't know them, but read this thread thru and no situation has been highlighted to suggest they have done anything wrong - other than you just don't like the name) If u start over analysing what people name themselves or their groups, I hate to point this out but your own user name carries some hefty connotations! Just sayin! But I know not to read too much into it, best that way

2011-07-21 17:44:00 Author: Masseyf Posts: 226

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If someone comments on you ''I'm elite you're noob'' make you habby? or haggy? lol xD

2011-07-21 17:49:00 Author: TheGoldenFlash Posts: 209

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The point is that communities have some unwritten rules. In a community everyone has its job, everyone is important, and everyone is equal. Ranks don't exist, though what exist is respect and respect is not like a shirt that you can dress when you want, but something you earn with your hard work. This elite stuff creates only useless anger, suspected bias and stuff like that. So please stop the madness, and if people thinks it's a stupid, silly thing...well, one reason more to stop it. The only 'rank' there is other than normal people is the moderators, right?

2011-07-21 17:49:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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I think it's a bit ridiculous to claim that everyone in the community is equal. It's simply not true. As people, yes, they are equal. However, that's not what the Elite club is about. It's about people who are better creators than most of the community. I don't see how anyone can deny that not all creators are equal. If you look at people who spam H4H and other junk levels, look at people who make incredible creations, and then try to claim that those people are equal...It just seems like denial to me. As human beings, everyone in the community is equal, in theory. As creators, players, and community members though? Some really are far better than others.

2011-07-21 19:01:00 Author: Marioface5 Posts: 73

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Yeah, its true that many creators are much better than others. But what we're talking is being ''treated'' equally. Not showing off to less skilled players 'hah look! i'm in LB Elite Creators Group! You're not!' now is that nice? or just writing in a signature ''LittleBig Elite Creators are the best!' Or ''I am in LB elite creators! yaaaay! hahaah!''seems a bit annoying to me. Be gentle and nice to others. THEN you can call yourself ''Elite''.

2011-07-21 19:20:00 Author: TheGoldenFlash Posts: 209

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Considering the fact that the creators of the group created it at the time PSN was down, and therefore could not even play the levels of the 50 some people that joined, I was strongly under the impression that they just let in all their friends, whether they were "elite" or not :/

2011-07-21 21:55:00 Author: ATMLVE Posts: 1177

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Yeah, its true that many creators are much better than others. But what we're talking is being ''treated'' equally. In that case, I completely agree that all of us are equals. As for the way the Elite people treat others, I haven't really seen them or their signatures so I can't judge that.

2011-07-21 22:52:00 Author: Marioface5 Posts: 73

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Anyway, I don't mean only the elite group. I mean the word elite in general. Even when people use the word elite to describe some famous creators (I can assure you there is someone that actually suffer for being called "Elite" and not considered nice people). Even because in most cases the word "elite" has been associated to bias, conspiracy and other not nice things, that shouldn't be related to this community.

2011-07-22 08:47:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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