Archive: 69 posts

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When LBP1 came out, i used to spend a lot of time in the Cool Pages, playing levels, while many levels where not that great, i still enjoyed playing them because i could see newer creators at work, and maybe give them a hint or two, and i liked to see how they approached the game, and you could also find a lot of really good levels too! But now, there nothing like that in Cool Pages. Most new levels get no chance so i can't see new creators at work, and good levels are overshadowed by the "crowd stuff". Now all there is are "Bomb Survivals, Shark Survivals, Hotel Survival, Chess Survival, Free Stuff, H4H, etc.", i don't even bother going to Cool Pages anymore at all. And what i really find stupid, is when levels get a lot of plays just because their based on a license or common product. For example, for a lot of time a "Batman" level was on top of cool pages, it got A LOT of plays just because it was a Batman level, not because it was good, it was hastily and horribly made, and aside from the title and the main character, it had almost nothing to do with Batman...

2011-07-02 12:17:00 Author: Flame Dragon Posts: 312

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I don't think the cool pages are junk. Its the community that put them there. If they want to play terrible levels and ignore the good ones that's there fault

2011-07-02 15:33:00 Author: Zero10100 Posts: 385

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As i hear with LBP.me update they tuned cool pages, as you can see you got LBP2 level on top right now

2011-07-02 16:34:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I remember not long ago when somebody released a 'How fast can you press R1' level. Then a few day later the same person released a 'How fast can you press triangle' level and they were both on the cool pages with thousands of plays each. It's really off-putting when a level with hardly any time or effort put into it gets thousands of plays. Especially when the creator makes a re-hashed version of the level (like the example above) and it also get thousands of plays.

2011-07-02 20:23:00 Author: ADS_LEGEND Posts: 140

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I think you didn't seen beta it all started with Press X game that was MMPicked and as everything simple that become popular rip-offs started to show up

2011-07-03 21:54:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I don't think the cool pages are junk. Its the community that put them there. If they want to play terrible levels and ignore the good ones that's there fault 98% of the community likes crap, it sucks but none of us dedicated creators get a chance to be seen. Should be called Crap Levels.

2011-07-04 08:30:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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If something easy to copy and make and it do well on the cool pages everyone will try and copy it ;/ nothing new here, sad to say it not about to change

2011-07-04 08:48:00 Author: jump_button Posts: 1014

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Well MM doesn't seem to mind... Although the quality of levels is only getting worse. There isn't much that MM can do to stop it either. We can only hope that one day they get fed up (as most do), and stop.

2011-07-04 08:55:00 Author: Captain_Dinosaur Posts: 214

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If something easy to copy and make and it do well on the cool pages everyone will try and copy it ;/ nothing new here, sad to say it not about to change My most popular level was a crane game that got onto cool pages shortly after I posted it. I think I did a decent job on it, but it was still nothing that anyone else couldn't make. It got about 15,000 plays in a week or so, when it left cool pages. After I posted mine I started seeing a bunch of even cheaper cranes go up. Someone even had the nerve to say I copied them even though they posted their level after mine.

2011-07-04 09:19:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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What you guys talking about? look on cool pages now, it back to normal

2011-07-04 15:27:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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All you need to know is this: the masses are stupid. Now realize that those same masses dictate what ends up on un-Cool Pages. I read the comments left by people on levels now before playing them. If I see more than a few "You are a noob!", "This level is garbage, don't play it", or "Stop spamming Cool Pages with junk like this!" comments... I won't even play it... regardless of the amount of plays, happy faces, or hearts it's gotten. It's up to us to resist clicking the Play button and look at what people are saying before we jump into a level.

2011-07-04 22:01:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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What you guys talking about? look on cool pages now, it back to normal I looked, WAIT!! Is that a good... no, still a junkyard...

2011-07-04 22:32:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Well, I recently discovered that browsing the "Recent Activity" section is an invaluable tool to discover some unknown gems. If you're not a H4Her, the creators you've hearted are either "reasonable", anti H4H folk and/or LBP's top creators. We should assume they don't heart/yay any crap levels, right? So what you can do log in LBP.me (more practical than in-game browsing), visit the recent activity and add to your list the levels they yay'd or hearted, or even the ones they played without feedback if the level seems good. I hearted like 15-20 of LBP's elite creators. Last saturday I decided to check their activity on LBP.me and got 30 excellent levels on my list by scanning the last 5 days of activity

2011-07-04 23:48:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Cool pages is still full of H4H levels, free prize giveaways, trophy levels, etc...

2011-07-05 00:46:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Right. But in LBP2, it is perfectly fine. I went into LBP1 to try to save a tutorial, and, yes the cool pages are the 'copied pages' in LBP1. It's sad, but I think most of the creators in LBP2 just bought the game to take their LBP1 skills to the next level. So, that explains why the cool pages are /mostly/ clean in LBP2.

2011-07-05 01:38:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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Right. But in LBP2, it is perfectly fine. I went into LBP1 to try to save a tutorial, and, yes the cool pages are the 'copied pages' in LBP1. It's sad, but I think most of the creators in LBP2 just bought the game to take their LBP1 skills to the next level. So, that explains why the cool pages are /mostly/ clean in LBP2. But I just checked it in LBP2 and I still saw a bunch of item giveaways, H4H, and trophy levels, just ones with more plays. Is that all they go by now is play count? That's even worse, because these empty levels STILL get thousands of plays, what gives?

2011-07-05 01:46:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Well, I usually have a filter for LBP2 only. I forgot to mention that.

2011-07-05 02:11:00 Author: StaticLinuxpro Posts: 482

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I haven't been on the 'cool levels' page since LBP1. There are numerous ways to find better stuff now, they have vastly improved the search functionality. If you can't be bothered to use it, then that's your own look out. I mainly use the recent activity stream and see what the elite creators are up to.

2011-07-05 02:24:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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Yeah, I check friends activity and look for positive comments. And I look at other creators on this site. I still see what's on Cool Pages once in a while.

2011-07-05 02:38:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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Well, I usually have a filter for LBP2 only. I forgot to mention that. Maybe I need to try that. Most of the empty levels I see ARE lbp1

2011-07-05 03:02:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Cool pages is still full of H4H levels, free prize giveaways, trophy levels, etc... Costume and items giveways are fine, thats part of create, not all people can create everything from 0, not all people can creat somehtign big so they make small elements, some people are just good in making costumes, they should have ability to shere them freely and imo is a good thing that this kind of levels have a chance to get to cool pages. Now i look on cool pages and i don't know where the helll you see those but i see none.... again, NONE of trophy levels or H4H levels on at least first page off cool pages Cool pages already just fine, and as i said many many hell many tiems it impposible to make 100% fair system where every good level gets to cool pages... machines can't judge levels, people can only do it. Better solution would be different ways to find levels or expose them more

2011-07-05 14:59:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Costume and items giveways are fine, thats part of create, not all people can create everything from 0, not all people can creat somehtign big so they make small elements, some people are just good in making costumes, they should have ability to shere them freely and imo is a good thing that this kind of levels have a chance to get to cool pages. I think the costume levels he is referring to are the ones where people take costumes other creators made, and then put them in their own costume give away. Those levels need no creativity and no time. There is one guy, and that's all he does most of the time. He has over 3,000 creator hearts for giving away costumes he didn't create. Those are the types of levels people are referring to.

2011-07-05 17:09:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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I really thought LPB2 was different from LBP1 in this issue, and for a good few months it was, but now it seems to have decended into nothing again. The problem is it really is an unfixable issue, Mm can't play each individual level to see if it's Cool Pages worthy, and computers have no way of defining quality.

2011-07-05 17:51:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893

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I also found most of these empty levels I talk about are in LBP1, so filtering does help a bit. And yes, I see the same costumes given away in a bunch of levels, no creativity required.

2011-07-05 21:43:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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There is one guy, and that's all he does most of the time. He has over 3,000 creator hearts for giving away costumes he didn't create. Those are the types of levels people are referring to. This. I know exactly who you are talking about. It's even more pathetic than that. He's also taken to giving away all costumes from the first game as prizes too. So now, he's basically taking money out of Mm's pocket by attempting this. One of the first levels he put up were almost all costumes by Redjackal (check out his costumes, he's quite good) and that he apparently didn't know who's costumes they were (which is complete bunk, because as we all know you simply click on the info and you will find the original creator). I commented that that's who's costumes were and that Redjackal deserved being given credit at the very least. I was amazed to find that other players were "boo'ing" my comment. Seriously? I'm trying to make sure the original creator is getting his due credit and there are tools out there who thinks this is a bad thing? At least he eventually gave the credit in his description, but it should have been there to begin with and he should have asked permission. It's just VERY representative of the majority of players in this game now. It doesn't seem like it used to be like this for the first few years. It seems to have gotten worse with the games' popularity. I suppose it's to be expected though.

2011-07-06 00:07:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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Cool pages already just fine, and as i said many many hell many tiems it impposible to make 100% fair system where every good level gets to cool pages... machines can't judge levels, people can only do it.How are the cool levels decided though? If I scroll through the pages on LBP.me, the top few seem to be popular, but later levels have only a few plays and likes, like this one: citylife (http://lbp.me/v/2p-h5y) Dislikes: 3 Likes: 16 Hearts: 10 Plays: 73 What is it about these levels that gets them a spot in the limelight? Not number of plays, or a particularly high rating, either in number of hearts/likes nor percentage of hearts/likes. I'm not seeing any common feature on what's cool. If you compare my own level (http://lbp.me/v/0renc9): Dislikes: 0 Likes: 73 Hearts: 51 Plays: 115 Well, I have over 60% likes and over 40% hearts, among the highest proportions of any levels I've seen on LBP. The best levels on LBP get 10-20% hearts. Some of the comments I have... i cried and cried.laughed,and saw what more of how life is injoyable or terrible. thanks for makeing this is lovely just lovely.and emotional. that was lovelyest movie i ever seen *sob* beautiful. This is like awesomeness, but better. Simply amazing. The story, the heart, you deserve an MMPick. I have lots more encouraging comments to go with these, and yet this level is not counted as cool. Ignoring any bias I may have of my own work, how can a 40% hearted level with zero dislikes not be featured in the cool levels if cool levels is suppose to be drawing people's attention to the more likable creations? I really thought LPB2 was different from LBP1 in this issue, and for a good few months it was, but now it seems to have decended into nothing again. The problem is it really is an unfixable issue, Mm can't play each individual level to see if it's Cool Pages worthy, and computers have no way of defining quality.The best levels as measured by the community itself will get the most likes and hearts. Just have a ratio of likes/hearts to plays. A level with 30 hearts out of 100 plays is going to be better than a level with 60 hearts and 1000 plays. Shouldn't be hard to come up with a decent selection metric. Add in a bit of randomisation/shuffle so there's a mix of levels presented within the cool pages giving more levels a chance to be played, and it'll be a big improvement all round. Currently I have no idea what the selection algorithm is, but I don't see how the 'cream' is to rising to the top as it was supposed to.

2011-07-06 00:21:00 Author: Shifty Geezer Posts: 131

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"Cream isn't the only thing that rises to the top" Terry Pratchett

2011-07-06 01:03:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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"Cream isn't the only thing that rises to the top" Terry Pratchett Never a better quote has been used. Everytime I read a thread complaining about Cool Pages I get a little annoyed. I only just looked at Cool Pages for the first time a few weeks ago as I have always found stuff to play from the forums. I was a little blown away by how bad they were. I then spent the next 10 mins reporting 'Kill Justin Beiber' stages, because whatever you think of him he is a real person and they are condoning a violent and illegal act. (it's also fun to watch someone with 5 of the same stage get everything moderated) Anyway... that's not my rant. Change the phrase 'Cool Pages' to 'Top 10/Hottest Hits/Top of the Pops', and you get the same results. Mostly unoriginal songs that have in some cases ripped off other composers. Justin Beiber releases "Press R1" and its a (surprise) hit, so he releases 'Press Triangle" because people want more of the same but 'different'... I quickly scan through a Top 20 list and maybe there is one thing in there for me. All that means, regardless of what it calls itself is that that list isn't for me. So I move on. This forum is a far better radio station to listen to. There were 140 levels recently published for the no floors comp. 140. Go play some of them. There is a Level Showcase full of great levels, and a Cool Levels page. Go play them. Two quick examples: I played 'Elysian Fields' by K3NDRAKRAY and was completely floored by how good it was. THEN it got Mm picked. I watched 'Who Watches the Watchmen?' by dracudelishio54 and was amazed at how far he had pushed cinematics. It got Mm picked AFTEER I had played it. So using the music analogy I liked those songs before they were popular. Instead of listening to a radio station for songs you hate and saying THIS is why I hate this station, change stations.

2011-07-06 02:14:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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This is my method for playing cool page levels. 1.Press triangle, Filter LBP1 out of that, Gets rid off a whole butt load of Unnessassry worthless levels. 2.Skim through! If it says "H4H FREE COSTUMES NO LIE FOE REALZZ!! H4H!!" i will never play that. 3.Just look at the amount off effort. If it has a custom level badge and good discription, most likely it will be a All right level. 4.Look at feed back. if it has more faces then faces, then DONT play. 5.Set your own rules for level playing. My optional rule for you guys is that if it has any kind of CAP LOCK!!! i dont play.

2011-07-06 03:06:00 Author: Unknown User

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How are the cool levels decided though? If I scroll through the pages on LBP.me, the top few seem to be popular, but later levels have only a few plays and likes, like this one: citylife (http://lbp.me/v/2p-h5y) Dislikes: 3 Likes: 16 Hearts: 10 Plays: 73 What is it about these levels that gets them a spot in the limelight? Not number of plays, or a particularly high rating, either in number of hearts/likes nor percentage of hearts/likes. I'm not seeing any common feature on what's cool. If you compare my own level (http://lbp.me/v/0renc9): Dislikes: 0 Likes: 73 Hearts: 51 Plays: 115 Well, I have over 60% likes and over 40% hearts, among the highest proportions of any levels I've seen on LBP. The best levels on LBP get 10-20% hearts. Some of the comments I have... I have lots more encouraging comments to go with these, and yet this level is not counted as cool. Ignoring any bias I may have of my own work, how can a 40% hearted level with zero dislikes not be featured in the cool levels if cool levels is suppose to be drawing people's attention to the more likable creations? The best levels as measured by the community itself will get the most likes and hearts. Just have a ratio of likes/hearts to plays. A level with 30 hearts out of 100 plays is going to be better than a level with 60 hearts and 1000 plays. Shouldn't be hard to come up with a decent selection metric. Add in a bit of randomisation/shuffle so there's a mix of levels presented within the cool pages giving more levels a chance to be played, and it'll be a big improvement all round. Currently I have no idea what the selection algorithm is, but I don't see how the 'cream' is to rising to the top as it was supposed to. You forgot one importent element.... time, your level will get cool pages exposiore for 3 days after that it's start to fall, in other words after 3 days your retio wont matter at all. I already analized cool pages and i made whole articule, check my created threads you should find it Key for success is to act fast, not just publish and forget, for me playing my level with frinds on cool pages works the best for me

2011-07-06 03:30:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Well, I usually have a filter for LBP2 only. I forgot to mention that. Too bad sir, because those LBP2 Filters only show those "Costume Giveaway" and stuff, doesn't make any difference

2011-07-06 06:39:00 Author: Unknown User

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You forgot one importent element.... time, your level will get cool pages exposiore for 3 days after that it's start to fall, in other words after 3 days your retio wont matter at all.Well, I couldn't forget it's only there 3 days as I never knew! I already analized cool pages and i made whole articule, check my created threads you should find itThanks, that explains a lot. However, it also shows my level is effectively dead. I don't have lots of friends to artificially get plays and ratings. I publicised my level on the forums I attend including the showcase here and got hardly any views, and published a YouTube clip with link and DeviantArt film. That's as much as I can do. I didn't pass the marketing exam so what's one of the best vids in LBP2, because I sunk so much into it, will fade into obscurity.

2011-07-06 08:48:00 Author: Shifty Geezer Posts: 131

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How do these levels get so many plays? The rubbish waterparks etc? There's like 2 or 3 on the Cool Pages, with thousands of plays each. Do they advertise somewhere else? Because I don't see them on here!

2011-07-06 10:44:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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How do these levels get so many plays? The rubbish waterparks etc? There's like 2 or 3 on the Cool Pages, with thousands of plays each. Do they advertise somewhere else? Because I don't see them on here! They comment on the other Cool Levels and/or Mm Picks to get plays. Usually something along the lines of "PLAY MY LEVEL {Insert level name here (All caps)}! I WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT!!" As comments display the most recent, they spam and get noticed.

2011-07-06 11:05:00 Author: Flamento Posts: 352

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They comment on the other Cool Levels and/or Mm Picks to get plays. Usually something along the lines of "PLAY MY LEVEL {Insert level name here (All caps)}! I WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT!!" As comments display the most recent, they spam and get noticed. Really? You mean people actually pay attention to those spam comments? Oh dear. All hope is lost! On that note.... PLZ PLAY MY LVL U SUNK MY SACKLESHIP!! I WORK RLY HARD ON IT. H4H PLZ!!

2011-07-06 11:59:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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PLZ PLAY MY LVL U SUNK MY SACKLESHIP!! I WORK RLY HARD ON IT. H4H PLZ!! Well, when you put it that way how can I not play it?

2011-07-06 12:17:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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The Recent Activity function is my best option, when looking for something good to play. I just bypass all costume levels and find a new platformer, but i must admit that it is a bit of a bummer when i filter out lbp1 levels and find a bunch of Fake costume and Glitch (Hate them!) levels sitting at the top of Cool pages.

2011-07-06 12:26:00 Author: RtooDee2 Posts: 175

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Warmly thanks for all the responses, it just get depressing to work on a level and then it getting no attention... I always wish to improve my creator skills, to make exciting levels made with quality... I'm just going to keep improving and creating, maybe if i manage to get a level on cool pages people will start to copy that! LOL

2011-07-06 13:43:00 Author: Flame Dragon Posts: 312

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Oh... It's THIS thread again... Yes cool pages are a toilet, but what can you do? Now that we can queue up levels, I have no real problems. I queue levels from this site, and LBL, and leave the rest of the community to rot.

2011-07-06 13:46:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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Well, when you put it that way how can I not play it? Exactly! But serious..... play it Or maybe I should try a different method? Play my level..... or else! I know where you live..... well.... I know you're on GMT, so all I need to do is travel North or South and I'll find ya! You have been warned! I think we're still getting the hangover from the PSN LBP1 giveaway, once that dies down, there will be less rubbish LBP1 levels on the cool pages, since the noobs will back to playing CoD or watever

2011-07-06 14:16:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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The Recent Activity function is my best option, when looking for something good to play. I just bypass all costume levels and find a new platformer, but i must admit that it is a bit of a bummer when i filter out lbp1 levels and find a bunch of Fake costume and Glitch (Hate them!) levels sitting at the top of Cool pages. Hey, I'm publishing a costume level in about a week! Better not bypass it. . (I really am publishing one next week though, but at least it will feature costumes you haven't seen anywhere else.)

2011-07-06 14:19:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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I don't think costume levels are that bad if crafted with care/are original. However, most of them are just made in five minutes, copying someone else costume.

2011-07-07 13:58:00 Author: Flame Dragon Posts: 312

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Cool pages are dead If your gonna complain about whats on there make levels That are now on there and change the community. Dont give levels that you don't like attention. Because that's what they want attention. So they see a bad level get what it doesn't deserve and they get unneeded popularity for making bad levels.

2011-07-07 14:06:00 Author: WESFUN Posts: 1336

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I don't think costume levels are that bad if crafted with care/are original. However, most of them are just made in five minutes, copying someone else costume. Guys... quality and time (specially that overall you can do something cool in 5 minutes) does not matter for the system, it can't be jurged from those aspects automaticly. People rate is all that matters, thye are wrong (in your opinion) not the system

2011-07-07 15:02:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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True, but they could have named it more accurately, something like Popular Levels.

2011-07-07 15:19:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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Change the phrase 'Cool Pages' to 'Top 10/Hottest Hits/Top of the Pops', and you get the same results. Mostly unoriginal songs that have in some cases ripped off other composers. Justin Beiber releases "Press R1" and its a (surprise) hit, so he releases 'Press Triangle" because people want more of the same but 'different'... I quickly scan through a Top 20 list and maybe there is one thing in there for me. All that means, regardless of what it calls itself is that that list isn't for me. Good analogy.... and one of the main reasons I haven't turned on a radio station in about 12 or 13 years.

2011-07-07 15:48:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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I don't think costume levels are that bad if crafted with care/are original. However, most of them are just made in five minutes, copying someone else costume. I know! Which makes me wonder what kind of crazy I am that my costume level has taken a month and a half.

2011-07-07 16:19:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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I know! Which makes me wonder what kind of crazy I am that my costume level has taken a month and a half. Are your costumes all original? Also, is it all boy/girl costumes, or do u have both? My gf loves costume levels!

2011-07-07 22:41:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Are your costumes all original? Also, is it all boy/girl costumes, or do u have both? My gf loves costume levels! It's not a boy or girl themes costume level. But yes, of course, they are all original. I'd never giveaway someone else's costumes. It's a tutorial level for an effect, and then showcases a few unique designs I made using the effect, and gives those away. The level is mostly aimed at creators, but will be fun for players too. I'll try to post pics of one of the display costumes later tonight. I made the costumes a while back. I've spent over a month just on the level showcasing them, cause I'm a special kind of crazy I guess. Ok, here you go. This is the area where you can choose to view the tutorial - or, simply go to the showcase/prize area. http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/23334/2728269550104171976S425x425Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2728269550104171976QRBAxO) And, this is one of the costumes in an early build of the level. This guy is called, "The Hypnotist". (Of course, the Decs covering his body are all spinning). http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/48710/2738945660104171976S425x425Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2738945660104171976paNxYh) Each costume will have it's own unique background. Took a lot of time, and I'm not sure why I went through all the trouble since there is a very good chance that people will hate it. Haha. Guess we'll see in about a week when I publish it.

2011-07-08 01:54:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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It's not a boy or girl themes costume level. But yes, of course, they are all original. I'd never giveaway someone else's costumes. NOW that's good advertising! I have another analogy. I make a delicious hamburger... I open a store next to 1000 other hamburger stores. I try a few of the others but mine is much more delicious. So I thought just by opening the hamburger store people would instantly know mine was more delicious. WHY IS NO ONE EATING MY HAMBURGER! Oh... maybe I should have marketed my hamburger. Yes you can say "but I posted on the forums and still no one eats my hamburger". How about jumping into another thread about someone else's delicious hamburger. Try it, then tell them about it. Maybe say "Your relish is really tangy, and I like tangy relish. I guess you do also, you should have a taste of my burger" or "That's a tasty burger, I like how there was no pickle... I put a pickle in my burger, tell me if you like it" Complain all you want but if posting "PLAY MY LEVEL" is akin to standing on the street handing flyers to people that walk past than it's just another method of marketing. Personally I never take those flyers.

2011-07-08 06:44:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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What's up with the "Trending Levels" on lbp.me? There's this level: h4h - blizzz (http://lbp.me/v/0xxk9v) First thing that sacks me off, is the amount of plays it has.... more than my 3 levels combined. But how the hell is this "trending"? At the time of writing, it's last play was 4 days ago, and before that, 25 days ago. Makes no sense!

2011-07-12 14:49:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Trending is about popularity on lbp.me, it has nothing to do with actual plays. By linking the level here you may be increasing the level's Trending score even further.

2011-07-12 16:11:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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Trending is about popularity on lbp.me, it has nothing to do with actual plays. By linking the level here you may be increasing the level's Trending score even further. Well it deserves the coverage. It's obvious the creator put a lot of effort into it

2011-07-12 16:29:00 Author: Ali_Star Posts: 4085

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Is this thread a joke? Everyone knows that the Cool Pages are Useless, live off the forums, matey, you've got the biggest LBP community o the net here, surely you can find some levels to play.

2011-07-12 16:38:00 Author: Tecnoguy1 Posts: 206

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I never understand the hate on cool levels.. Everytime I check it out I filter out LBP1.. well always, but find mostly concepts and bots a few full levels that are good and yes free costumes and glitches and other random stuff.. I have found some prety cool stuff on cool pages.. Does anyone actually know the formula for getting on cool levels? Ive heard that your level is only eligible for about a week or so.. Some other filters are bs too like highest rated.. a level with 0 boos 3 yays and 4 plays will always top a level with 10 boos and 100 yays and say 250 plays.. I know its all about ratios but thats just not fair.

2011-07-12 19:11:00 Author: Dortr Posts: 548

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Mm updated the "Cool Levels" feature a bit ago. It will now host more decent levels and less spam.

2011-07-13 01:27:00 Author: Sackpapoi Posts: 1195

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Mm updated the "Cool Levels" feature a bit ago. It will now host more decent levels and less spam. Are you talking about the release of 1.5? Cause just the other day 2 guys were spamming the Cool Pages. They had about 8 levels of junks in the top pages. The problem is, there has always been a way to get on the Cool Pages because there has to be a mathematical set of rules to decide which level goes where. Once people figure out the numbers/ratios, they exploit them. They use the knowledge to spam the pages with multiple levels, and usually, get a small group together to try and completely take over. They usually win cause somehow, people aren't familiar with the practice continue to play their levels. Most of them a troll, and for some reason I have yet to comprehend, they really enjoy upsetting people. They enjoy the hate. I've said a million times, all MM has to do to protect the community from these trolls is make it so no one user ID can have more than 1-2 levels at a time. Case closed, troll will all go away. I dont mind if someone gets on the cool pages with a bad level. That's not their fault. I do mind when someone finds a loop hole and continuously fills the Cool Pages with junk, for not other reason than to gloat and upset people. MM needs to do more to police these people. Until they do, the trolls will continue to flourish and ruin the main community section of the game.

2011-07-13 14:33:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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well, here's the problem... When a new person gets on LBP online, they generally check out the cool levels pages. they think that because the stuff with lots of plays is how you get on the cool pages, that they should do it too. before long only the people who have stuck around from LBP1 and a few others know what the community is all about. if there was some way we could reach them all... then maybe we could put an end to the madness of copying, H4H, prize levels, costume levels, and overdone shark, zombie, bomb, and hotel survivals.

2011-07-13 18:45:00 Author: LBNinja Posts: 204

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It seems like the cool pages are improving, I don't really see too many lbp1 levels any more. But still, I still see lots of noobish levels. Mostly half-baked levels that exploit some sort famous thing to get plays. Have you people seen the level called Sackdonalds? It was a huge hit on the cool pages, getting thousands of plays. I played it because it seemed interesting. In the level, all I saw was a boring building with a few tables in it and a sackbot that looked like Ronald McDonald. Yet the level still got really good ratings. If you had made an identical level and called it something else, you would get no plays. I've seen other things like that cropping up to take advantage of the 8-year olds that make up a majority of the lbp community.

2011-07-15 03:42:00 Author: Joey9898 Posts: 131

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I actually had a half idle idea about building a 'H4 H-Bomb' I was toying with the idea that I was going to make a 'free glitch h4h for realz' level but the H4 H-Bomb in the only thing in the level. This contraption actually was full of broken magic mouths that couldn't be switched off. Even if you go back to your pod or play another stage. The messages were just spam type stuff. Like 'H4H' 'PLAY MY LEVEL' As i said; It was an idle idea but the latest patch fixed the bug. So cant do it anymore... That is, if I decided to do it... I didn't think that I would actually do it... but it amused me to think of it.

2011-07-15 03:52:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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I actually had a half idle idea about building a 'H4 H-Bomb' I was toying with the idea that I was going to make a 'free glitch h4h for realz' level but the H4 H-Bomb in the only thing in the level. This contraption actually was full of broken magic mouths that couldn't be switched off. Even if you go back to your pod or play another stage. The messages were just spam type stuff. Like 'H4H' 'PLAY MY LEVEL' As i said; It was an idle idea but the latest patch fixed the bug. So cant do it anymore... That is, if I decided to do it... I dindnt think I would but it amused me to think of it. Dude, that would have been SO funny! I played a trolls level the other day that froze my PS3. I couldn't help but laugh that someone actually posted that.

2011-07-15 04:50:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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What is up with all these "Kill Justin Beiber" levels? I mean i don't like his music but seriously, must you keep spamming those type of levels? That's why i hardly play lbp anymore too many crap lvl on the cool pages. Only time i play now id to just hang with some of my fellow lbp buddies.

2011-07-22 22:22:00 Author: Unknown User

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I admit the cool levels are a mess right now, but thats because the people who play those levels and rate them high don't give a care how good they are. But MM gave us other ways to find good levels, follow your favorite creators, use lbp.me, all sorts of different things besides the Cool Levels. Even browse this sight for people who have uploaded their levels.

2011-07-26 15:17:00 Author: TheBlackKnight22 Posts: 695

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I admit the cool levels are a mess right now, but thats because the people who play those levels and rate them high don't give a care how good they are. But MM gave us other ways to find good levels, follow your favorite creators, use lbp.me, all sorts of different things besides the Cool Levels. Even browse this sight for people who have uploaded their levels. We have plenty of ways to find great underplayed gems, I agree with you on that. But that still doesn't fix the main problem here, the fact that the Cool Pages are mainly a means for crap levels getting way more playes and feedback than they really deserve. Garbage levels that get there gain even more (undeserved) advantage over fair levels because of the spotlight the Cool Pages offers. I still think it's better for everyone if MM forms a team of dedicated players to play recent levels and vote if they could get on the cool pages. That voted level could then get on a list only this team's members can access and vote on. When a level on this candidate list gets enough votes, they move onto the Cool Pages, This is a free, mostly unregulated online community, and that's just the opposite of quality control. That's just what we need, quality control. There has to be someone with human judgement behind the cool pages, not a program.

2011-07-26 23:47:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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What is up with all these "Kill Justin Beiber" levels? I mean i don't like his music but seriously, must you keep spamming those type of levels? Bandwagon hate. Most of these kids probably don't even know who he is, but they hate him because hating him is the coolest thing to do right now.

2011-07-27 17:18:00 Author: Chdonga Posts: 388

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There was replay from QA people about cool pages on getsatisfaction on entry about cool pages Thanks for your post, This is indeed a very difficult thing to get right. It is also important to remember that "cool levels" is not meant to be the definitive list, of the coolest levels ever published. It is meant to be a pit stop to see the levels recently released which are being played by players. All that said we will consider how this could be improved once the priority patches have been completed. http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/topics/flawed_cool_levels_system

2011-07-27 22:17:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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That was posted 6 months ago though, haven't they changed it since then? And it still not what were after!

2011-07-28 03:03:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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That was posted 6 months ago though, haven't they changed it since then? And it still not what were after! yes, remember LBP1 levels flood? they gone because they changed it (probably lower the value of LBP1 rates) I still think it's better for everyone if MM forms a team of dedicated players to play recent levels and vote if they could get on the cool pages. That voted level could then get on a list only this team's members can access and vote on. When a level on this candidate list gets enough votes, they move onto the Cool Pages, This is a free, mostly unregulated online community, and that's just the opposite of quality control. That's just what we need, quality control. There has to be someone with human judgement behind the cool pages, not a program. Humans + cool page = 1. there over few 1000's level published daily, so it's near impossible to check them activly 2. It would be even more unfair then it is now, since not many but few or one person will need to notice you and like it Guys it's not like cool pages is comeplete trash, there always some great levels there. There also lot of people do stuff, throw on earth and waiting for nothing insted of promote the level, you won't get plays if no body knows about your level existence.

2011-07-28 03:24:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I've said a million times, all MM has to do to protect the community from these trolls is make it so no one user ID can have more than 1-2 levels at a time. Case closed, troll will all go away. I don't think they'll have the time to carefully filter and monitor level activity throughout the entire LBP community. It's a lot harder than it sounds. I always thought they should do that too, but then I realized that they have to pick the MM picks and start making new games and DLCs. It would be a lot of work. Maybe they could do it since they're so successful, but it wouldn't work too fast.

2011-07-28 05:57:00 Author: Sackpapoi Posts: 1195

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