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I am so royally ****** off right now. I just bought LBP2 and every time I try and play online the lag is HORRIFIC to the point it is unplayable. But that isn't the worst of it--oh no. The game has FROZEN SOLID on me TWICE in the last 15 minutes. Not even the PS button on the controller will quit the game--I have to physically get up and hard reset my PS3. What the *&@$ is going on here?? I've NEVER had such horrific problems with LBP1 so I know it's not my internet connection (not to mention, why would my internet connection make my PS3 FREEZE UP!?!?!?). I'm about to slap this game up on eBay. UNPLAYABLE! Seriously ****** off.

2011-06-29 13:56:00 Author: Unknown User

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Maybe you got a broken copy. Go back to the store and get a new one.

2011-06-29 13:59:00 Author: Zero10100 Posts: 385

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Bad copy maybe?

2011-06-29 14:01:00 Author: lemurboy12 Posts: 842

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Maybe you got a broken copy. Go back to the store and get a new one. Well the story mode seems to work, it's only when I go online that things go completely haywire. And not even that--if I play a level in "online" mode by myself, stuff works. The minute other players arrive it goes to ****!

2011-06-29 14:02:00 Author: Unknown User

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Try contacting MM

2011-06-29 14:04:00 Author: Zero10100 Posts: 385

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Yeah, the "play with friends" side of lbp has pretty much gone down the crapper. If that's the reason you bought the game, I would recommend you get rid of it. LBP2 is really only good for creation and solo play.

2011-06-29 14:07:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/

2011-06-29 14:11:00 Author: lemurboy12 Posts: 842

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If you believe that you will actually get any satisfaction from this...http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/...you are severely deluded. It's only there to pacify people and to create the illusion that somebody at Mm towers actually cares about the problems you have experienced with the game. They don't.

2011-06-29 14:36:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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If you believe that you will actually get any satisfaction from this...http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/...you are severely deluded. It's only there to pacify people and to create the illusion that somebody at Mm towers actually cares about the problems you have experienced with the game. They don't. RUDE! They care... They are just busy making dreams come true or whatever. But seriously, I don't see the point in online play anyway. It really isn't that fun. Slapping your friends and then waiting... and waiting for them to catch up to you. Unless it's s specifically designed level for 2 or more players, I don't even consider joining anyone.

2011-06-29 14:47:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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RUDE! They care... They are just busy making dreams come true or whatever. But seriously, I don't see the point in online play anyway. It really isn't that fun. Slapping your friends and then waiting... and waiting for them to catch up to you. Unless it's s specifically designed level for 2 or more players, I don't even consider joining anyone. Same here online isn't that fun. All it is is putting up with the 70% of the community that is >13 years old and don't know how to play.

2011-06-29 14:55:00 Author: Zero10100 Posts: 385

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Same here online isn't that fun. All it is is putting up with the 70% of the community that is >13 years old and don't know how to play. Online is ALL I play, unless it's a complex level where only one player works best. During the time PSN was down I didn't play LBP once.

2011-06-29 15:07:00 Author: Unknown User

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I guess I just don't see the draw in screwing around in amateur levels with 3other people (probably minors) people over a spotty connection.

2011-06-29 15:13:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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It may be your connection, upload/download speed and how strong the signal is if you're on a wireless network. Rather then the game or a bit of both due to PSN. I say this because I went online with a friend and had some lag and long loading screens. So I told him to join me and let me host, knowing that I have a strong 30mg broadband connection, using a plug in system and ethernet cable to the back of the PS3. When he joined me he said, 'phew this is refreshing, I'm glad I don't have to put up with loading and lag anymore'. I dont have any problems when I'm in online play when I'm on. So it's really not a broken game. It could be that the person you're online with has a bad connection.

2011-06-29 15:17:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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I agree with Des. A load of people on the LBP servers trigger my lag, but a few don't. SO I learn to stay away from certain sack folk, and host my own games WHEN creating online.

2011-06-29 15:23:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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I agree with Des. A load of people on the LBP servers trigger my lag, but a few don't. SO I learn to stay away from certain sack folk, and host my own games WHEN creating online. Another thing is we changed our wifi channel to a channel that isn't used the most in our area. This means there's less traffic so we get a very good connection 90-100% of the time. It's also wired through a decent speed home plug system. Everything else in our house is on wifi which all runs 'A' ok.( Plus the wifi adaptor on origianl fat PS3 is not very good, so for that reason the PS3 is plugged in). UPDATE: We used a wifi analyzer app on our mobile phone to find out which is the least used wifi channel and used that one in our set-up. You may also have a closed NAT meaning basically the game code cannot flow freely to the server.

2011-06-29 15:28:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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It may be your connection, upload/download speed and how strong the signal is if you're on a wireless network. Rather then the game or a bit of both due to PSN. I say this because I went online with a friend and had some lag and long loading screens. So I told him to join me and let me host, knowing that I have a strong 30mg broadband connection, using a plug in system and ethernet cable to the back of the PS3. When he joined me he said, 'phew this is refreshing, I'm glad I don't have to put up with loading and lag anymore'. I dont have any problems when I'm in online play when I'm on. So it's really not a broken game. It could be that the person you're online with has a bad connection. Interesting...so THEIR internet connection can affect my game? It just doesn't make any sense because I've never had these issues in LBP1, and it should work the same I'd assume. I've also noticed that when one of the online players is using a mic things to go heII in a hand basket REAL quick as far as the loading screen/lag/frozen game goes. Again, only in LBP2...LBP1 works absolutely fine, and I've probably played it for over 100 hours. LBP2 has completely frozen my PS3 twice in the first fifteen minutes I've played it (online mode only, story works fine).

2011-06-29 17:11:00 Author: Unknown User

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Check your settings outlined in my previous post. It may be that. Also bare in mind that the state of PSN has not been very good lately with it being down so for long. If someone that hosting has a bad connection or closed NAT it can effect you when playing online or you could have a closed NAT & bad connection. Are you on a wireless or wired connection? UPDATE: Remember LBP1 different to LBP2 so will/may have a different net code. Log onto your router on a PC and check your settings and your setting on the PS3. Check your NAT type.

2011-06-29 17:21:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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If you believe that you will actually get any satisfaction from this...http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/...you are severely deluded. It's only there to pacify people and to create the illusion that somebody at Mm towers actually cares about the problems you have experienced with the game. They don't. Yeah, that's what I've been saying. It's only been half a year since the game was released, how many of those issues have been fixed? I honestly can not believe they still have not fixed the level link issues. Amazing. So many issues that effect community gameplay, and instead, our first message on the news feed since the game released (glad to see they're putting that to good use), is to declare that all scoreboards must be taken down immediately so they can address this issue immediately. So many problems and they act like there is an emergency because some people are getting highscores. Easy fix, ban them for cheating and work on issues that continue to be game breaking half a year later. And, end rant.

2011-06-29 17:33:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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Check your settings outlined in my previous post. It may be that. Also bare in mind that the state of PSN has not been very good lately with it being down so for long. If someone that hosting has a bad connection or closed NAT it can effect you when playing online or you could have a closed NAT & bad connection. Are you on a wireless or wired connection? UPDATE: Remember LBP1 different to LBP2 so will/may have a different net code. Log onto your router on a PC and check your settings and your setting on the PS3. Check your NAT type. Also I did a search in google for 'open NAT on ps3' and quite a few articles and videos popped up that may help, if that's the problem.

2011-06-29 17:37:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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Check your settings outlined in my previous post. It may be that. Also bare in mind that the state of PSN has not been very good lately with it being down so for long. If someone that hosting has a bad connection or closed NAT it can effect you when playing online or you could have a closed NAT & bad connection. Are you on a wireless or wired connection? UPDATE: Remember LBP1 different to LBP2 so will/may have a different net code. Log onto your router on a PC and check your settings and your setting on the PS3. Check your NAT type. I'm on a wireless connection. I don't even know what a closed NAT is. LBP1 is the first game I've ever played online and for the most part it's worked very well for me. LBP2 is a joke though. At least the 1-player story mode is cool :

2011-06-29 18:19:00 Author: Unknown User

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If LBP2 works for the rest of us. The problem is obviously yours and not the game itself.

2011-06-29 18:53:00 Author: DarrienEven Posts: 217

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I'm on a wireless connection. I don't even know what a closed NAT is. LBP1 is the first game I've ever played online and for the most part it's worked very well for me. LBP2 is a joke though. At least the 1-player story mode is cool : If you aren't prepared to learn about what LittleBigDes posted then your online experience won't improve.

2011-06-29 19:02:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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If you aren't prepared to learn about what LittleBigDes posted then your online experience won't improve. It’s not LBP2 and your game isn’t broken, I have played with countless people online and not had problems except for the odd occasional lag or people not being able to hear my over the mic, which is rare. But I also have a very good set-up and a ‘techy’ husband that does it all. NAT basically tell you what type of connection you have and how freely the net code flows to the servers. If you’re not on a good NAT setting then you will have problems online. On your PS3 go to Settings > network settings > settings and connection status list > scroll down to: UPnp It should say available (this a good thing) Under that you will see NAT type: Mine reads NAT type > Type 2 If your NAT type says type 2 (open) it means your PS3 is connected to a router. Your PS3 is connected properly and you shouldn't run into many issues. Any other NAT type other than 2 may cause problems with other games online. Also if you have an original fat PS3 the wireless adaptor it has on it is not very good, so you may need to go wired instead. Sorry I should not have assumed you knew about NAT types and router set ups. But I’m happy help. First find out your NAT type and we can go from there and get you up and running. Hopefully. UPDATE: Just re-read your original post to make sure I got everything. As for your PS3 freezing I'm not sure if that caused from the game or your PS3 playing up, hard to determine. But calling up the XMB by pressing the PS button could be related to your PS3 being slow. But don't hold me to that. I'm really not sure. Also, you can select the 'connection test' option in the menu to find out your NAT type.

2011-06-29 19:52:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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Could be your connection, just saying. I know the online multiplayer aspect of LBP2 isn't the most connection friendly there is, but most times I play everything with almost no lag, and my internet speed isn't very high. Maybe you have NAT type 3, in that case you should change to NAT 2.

2011-06-29 20:15:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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Could be your connection, just saying. I know the online multiplayer aspect of LBP2 isn't the most connection friendly there is, but most times I play everything with almost no lag, and my internet speed isn't very high. Maybe you have NAT type 3, in that case you should change to NAT 2. EXACTLY what this guy said. I was off at college and my internet connection wasn't great. It was ok, but not great. And the lag was TERRIBLE. I simply could NOT play online with other people. Then, I went home for the summer, and I can play online with people with close to no lag. It amazing how much of a difference it made. So before you start bashing the game, theres a good chance that its your fault.

2011-06-29 20:24:00 Author: dr_murk Posts: 239

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Of course you have a right to be angry at the game, even tho lag depends more on the user's connection, so that's be your internet provider's problem, and the freezing may be cause by overheating or other problems with the PS3....wait what was the point I was making? Oh, yes yes, this is completely and utterly all the game's fault...somehow...I think.

2011-06-29 20:28:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Of course you have a right to be angry at the game, even tho lag depends more on the user's connection, so that's be your internet provider's problem, and the freezing may be cause by overheating or other problems with the PS3....wait what was the point I was making? Oh, yes yes, this is completely and utterly all the game's fault...somehow...I think. I hope you're being sarcastic here. It's not necessarily the game. This person is obviously having a problem. Read all the previous posts I have outlined instructions for you to find out your NAT type in post number 23 and we can go from there.

2011-06-29 20:40:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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It's not purely about connection type. I played LBP for 2 years with a cable wired direct from my router to my Playstation, and aside from some occasional lag, online play with friends was almost always smooth, flowing and fun. Playing LBP2 with exactly the same set up, I'm more often than not plagued by loadings screen that flicker incessantly and constant disconnects from my friends. There's something up with the LBP2 servers and it happened after one of the updates released during the beta stage.

2011-06-29 21:03:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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Mine's fine about 95% of the time.. it's not right to jump to conclusions and call the game broken when it works well for most people

2011-06-29 21:15:00 Author: Radishlord Posts: 706

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There have been some good replies to the latency side of your complaint in this thread already, so I thought I might contribute some "it's not just you, and you're not crazy" perspective on the freezing issues. My system also freezes frequently during online interaction. Two freezes were for-sure overheating (example: just try watching the Figment movie all in one go while your system is tucked into an air-constricted shelf). Other freezes have been completely inexplicable, and they're not just limited to LBP2. The thing that is really weird, from my perspective, is that the freezing is 100% reproduceable. 1) In my Tools For Other Creators level, I have recently added a menu system that follows the character around. When I was touching up the menu system, I brought it one level into the foreground, and then copied (just) the controlinator on the face of the menu surface. This locked my PS3 immediately, which no longer was able to jump out to the XMB (cross-media bar, reached by the PS3 button on the controller). Eventually, the PS3 just shut itself off. Shrugging the whole matter off as possible overheating, I came back an hour later to copy the controlinator again, and WHAM, same thing. 2) In Infamous 2, there is User Generated Content (UGC) that has you running across town to meet up with your in-game buddy. Since my character has the Lightening Tether power, I use it to cross cities in leaps and bounds. (Walking is stupid!) Every time I swing across a certain invisible line, in a certain UGC, the PS3 halts solid.

2011-06-29 21:36:00 Author: The Manx Turtle Posts: 50

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Sorry to hear your bad luck with the game. If its working fine offline or when your playing online but on your own and its grand, then its sounds like your internet connection speed. If its a wireless connection (Nat type 3) then that is very likely your problem. What is your download/upload speed like? Try a direct casble from your modem directly into your ps3. Try resetting your modem and all the usual things. My advice is to try another online game and see how it acts. Little Big Planet 2 can be quite laggy at times online, especially if there are 4 players on a very busy or detailed screen at once. See if there are any smudges or scratches on the disc.

2011-06-30 01:04:00 Author: Sean88 Posts: 662

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If you believe that you will actually get any satisfaction from this...http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/...you are severely deluded. It's only there to pacify people and to create the illusion that somebody at Mm towers actually cares about the problems you have experienced with the game. They don't. Meh... they've acknowledged (http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/problems/active) and corrected (http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/problems/solved) some of the bugs on there, but to be fair to your point, they haven't had a major patch released in quite some time. And even the last patch didn't fix much (http://wiki.lbpcentral.com/LittleBigPlanet_2_Game_updates#Update_1.03_Battenb urg). What that says to me is that the next patch will either a) contain a lot more fixes than normal or b) they're too busy on finalizing the Move content that they're planning on releasing the whole thing in one giant update. Regarding the OP's lag issue, in my experience there are two major things that will create lag in LBP 1/2: 1) A poorly designed level with too much lighting, too many moving objects, or too much incredibly complicated logic in a concentrated area. Just because what is design can be squeezed through the level's thermo doesn't mean that your PS3 and the engine should handle it. If you put too much of one thing in a single area where it's all rendered on-screen, you're more likely to experience lag when playing the level from your Earth, and even more so when you add multiplayer. (Side note: some may argue that shouldn't be the case, that if it fits in the thermo the PS3/game engine should render it, but I disagree... tweaking your level to keep it from overheating is practically a science of it's own, and it requires considerable fine-tuning and an understanding of what is ideal.) 2) You have a slow internet connection, a sub-optimal network setup, or one of the people you're playing with has one of these two problems. And I use the word "sub-optimal" as a catch-all to lump hundreds of possible technical scenarios that may cause one's local network settings to cause problems for online play. Personally, I've experienced mixed results when trying to play online. For instance, when trying to play the twin-stick shooter side-game from the story levels with random people (can't recall the name ATM), I'd sometimes experience lag with just myself and one other player. When I'd come back the next night, I loaded it up with all four of us blasting away with hardly a hint of it. However, this is just based on my layman's knowledge of the game engine, a general understanding of networking concepts, and my own personal experience. Check out some of the posts regarding lag (http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/searches?query=lag&x=0&y=0&style=topics) and see if someone is experiencing something similar. It can't hurt to add your comments.

2011-06-30 02:51:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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It’s not LBP2 and your game isn’t broken, I have played with countless people online and not had problems except for the odd occasional lag or people not being able to hear my over the mic, which is rare. But I also have a very good set-up and a ‘techy’ husband that does it all. NAT basically tell you what type of connection you have and how freely the net code flows to the servers. If you’re not on a good NAT setting then you will have problems online. On your PS3 go to Settings > network settings > settings and connection status list > scroll down to: UPnp It should say available (this a good thing) Under that you will see NAT type: Mine reads NAT type > Type 2 If your NAT type says type 2 (open) it means your PS3 is connected to a router. Your PS3 is connected properly and you shouldn't run into many issues. Any other NAT type other than 2 may cause problems with other games online. Also if you have an original fat PS3 the wireless adaptor it has on it is not very good, so you may need to go wired instead. Sorry I should not have assumed you knew about NAT types and router set ups. But I’m happy help. First find out your NAT type and we can go from there and get you up and running. Hopefully. UPDATE: Just re-read your original post to make sure I got everything. As for your PS3 freezing I'm not sure if that caused from the game or your PS3 playing up, hard to determine. But calling up the XMB by pressing the PS button could be related to your PS3 being slow. But don't hold me to that. I'm really not sure. Also, you can select the 'connection test' option in the menu to find out your NAT type. Thanks for your help. I checked my network settings and it is NAT type 2. The signal strength is 100% but the UPnP says "not available"...according to you that's bad? How do I change it to "available"?

2011-06-30 02:56:00 Author: Unknown User

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As far as the freezing goes, mine does it all the time, not as much in LBP, but games like Red Dead Redemption and Fallout New Vegas are almost unplayable at times. But commenting on LBP2 online play in general... Online play in this game DOES kinda suck, it frustrates me. As if the lag wasn't bad enough, none of my friends use a USB keyboard so I have to spend half the level just standing around waiting while they just stand there with their stupid pop-it out taking 5 minutes just to type some unintelligible phrase that doesn't even have to do with what we're playing. Then once they get stuck somewhere and cant get out, instead of just popping themselves, they just pull their stupid pop-it keyboard again and make me wait while they spend 30 seconds typing "go." Well guess what, I CANT!!! The camera won't follow me, it's focused on you, you have to pop yourself! I generally play with auto-reject on. I don't mind playing with my friends sometimes, but I don't join random games anymore, its too frustrating. I like to create with people too, I just really don't like to play levels online with people. I hate having to stand while ppl type. I type on my USB keyboard WHILE I'm playing, so I don't make people wait a second for what I have to say, why should I have to wait 5 minutes for everyone else. Some of my friends even HAVE USB keyboards, they just won't use them.

2011-06-30 08:34:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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I'm meant to have 10mb up/down but I think my ISP is scamming me. I don't normally lag but with some people it happens pretty often. Welcome to the future. I think a big problem with LBP is there are very few places to hide the lag like in a FPS. Having said that I dont think the net code is that great the only game worse than LBP for me was FatPrincess.

2011-06-30 09:43:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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Thanks for your help. I checked my network settings and it is NAT type 2. The signal strength is 100% but the UPnP says "not available"...according to you that's bad? How do I change it to "available"? UPnP stands for Universal Plug and Play, works for both wireless and wired networks. As it says it's unavailable I'll assume it may have something to do with your router configuration and your router may not have UPnP enabled so you will need to log onto it on a PC/Mac in a web browser. Get the router address by looking through the network information in your PS3. It will be a set of numbers similar to xxx.xxx.x.x with x being a number. Type this into the web address bar of your PC/Mac to access the router configuration page, you may need a passowrd. From there in your settings look for UPnP and enable it. Having UPnP unavailable means the communication between your PS3 to the router is restricted, even though you may have a 100% signal. If it is enabled in your router settings then it could be that your router needs to be updated or it's a call to your Internet Service Provider (ISP). As I'm not sure what else to do. UPDATE: Just a side note. Our ISP is Virgin, we have the Virgin Super hub but the hub they provided us with doesn't handle UPnP very well so we don't even use it fully for its so called 'Super' 30mg service, we eneded up getting drop outs all the time. So we ended up passing the internet service through the Virgin super hub to another dlink router. The dlink handles all the UPnP and everything, so having a good router with a good implementation of UPnP is what helped me in my case.

2011-06-30 10:40:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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I'm meant to have 10mb up/down but I think my ISP is scamming me. You can always find out for yourself. http://www.speedtest.net/

2011-06-30 14:39:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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You can always find out for yourself. http://www.speedtest.net/ Sweet, I just did the test and mine's ping is 39ms, download speed 17.8mps, upload speed 4.1mps. Is that good? Should I be having issues with PS3 online play at those speeds?

2011-07-01 02:57:00 Author: Unknown User

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Sweet, I just did the test and mine's ping is 39ms, download speed 17.8mps, upload speed 4.1mps. Is that good? Should I be having issues with PS3 online play at those speeds? That is actually very good you must be on a 20mb broadband package. Your ping isn't bad either at 39ms although the lower the ping the better (we have 12ms which is a lot better), it's how quickly data is sent to you so 39 milliseconds is good, it's better than average. BUT I will repeat myself, your UPnP is not available so you will still have issues with your PS3 online. Because having UPnP unavailable means the communication between your PS3 to the router is restricted. You need to log onto your router and make sure that UPnP is on in the settings. If it is not then you can change it/enable it so it is available. This should help. It may sound a bit technical and complicated but if you dont have a clue or know what your doing and totally new to this sort of thing I will happily go over how to check this and do it again (already in my post number 36) or you may need to get someone else to help you do it. There is a whole host of other factors that can effect online play and I'm not an expert.

2011-07-01 10:17:00 Author: LittleBigDes Posts: 920

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Here's a good website that'll help you achieve the troubleshooting steps outlined above http://portforward.com/

2011-07-01 12:09:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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