Archive: 41 posts

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Came across this bit of news just a couple of minutes ago. The scoreboards have been taken down so that they can be rolled back to June 1st scores, due to a few people using the glitch to get 4 million points. a quote from spaff: "I’m really very sorry about that, but sadly this is what happens when a small handful of individuals decide to ruin things for the rest of us. Hopefully not too many of you achieved the greatest scores of your lives in the last week! I think you’ll all agree that this slight rollback is better than having cheated and broken scores staying in place!" You can still play LBP as normal, but just can't upload any scores. Kind of stinks

2011-06-17 19:49:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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Well, it's good to see that something's being done about those massive scores, but I don't really understand why they just can't remove the glitched scores individually instead of performing a rollback. Nevertheless, I'm pleased that action is being taken.

2011-06-17 20:07:00 Author: Unknown User

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I'm just glad it's being fixed. As a creator with a level with one of these outrageous scores I'm glad this is what they're doing.

2011-06-17 20:10:00 Author: Morgana25 Posts: 5983

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Never cared about my score in games, but it will be a good thing for those who cares

2011-06-17 20:21:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Well, I'm a player when it comes to highscores. Every once in a while I enjoy playing a level over and over to get 1st place. Now my brag rights may be lost.

2011-06-18 03:05:00 Author: GameRoom Posts: 200

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I am glad they are doing this, but feel really sorry for anyone who set a legitimate high score recently. ...umm like biorogue for instance. (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/member.php?3804-biorogue)

2011-06-18 04:03:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383

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Anyone know exactly how this glitch was performed? Just curious. Nm if it's hush hush.

2011-06-18 04:33:00 Author: Lockstitch Posts: 415

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I really dont see why anyone would do this

2011-06-18 05:59:00 Author: jump_button Posts: 1014

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I really dont see why anyone would do this If there is just one aspect that can be abused in a game, some idiots will never hesitate to gain an unfair "edge" to everyoine else

2011-06-18 07:24:00 Author: Slaeden-Bob Posts: 605

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I assume this means the glitch is also being addressed...otherwise what's to stop other people from doing this? Oh well, at least I can get my PSN off the top spot for Wooly Bully (clearly people don't play that level for score).

2011-06-18 08:12:00 Author: fullofwin Posts: 1214

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I just don't know why they don't give us the option to clear off the scoreboards of are own levels if wanted? *mew

2011-06-18 08:21:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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a quote from spaff: "I?m really very sorry about that, but sadly this is what happens when a small handful of individuals decide to ruin things for the rest of us Sounds like Mm are getting tired of the trouble makers who constantly flirt with the ban hammer and usually get away with it. But then again, I might be wrong.

2011-06-18 20:48:00 Author: D-E-S_87 Posts: 148

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I'm confused. I've been playing a lot of community levels the past few days and have seen no signs of the scoreboards being reset. My scores are still being uploaded and on a certain pinball level, ahem, I still have the top score. Guess they're still working on it before they take 'em down.

2011-06-19 14:15:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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The scoreboards are offline now! Reset later on, we will make sure we choose the right way of doing this... sorry to anyone who got the best score of their life recently....

2011-06-20 17:39:00 Author: Spaff_Molecule Posts: 421

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nooooooooooo! The agony! I was hoping you guys had just figured out a way to remove those obviously glitched scores and leave the legit ones intact. It ticks me off how a few people can ruin something for thousands of people.

2011-06-21 01:13:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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This perturbs me.

2011-06-21 06:52:00 Author: MofoSuperVillain Posts: 88

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Omg! This is the worse thing MM could do. If they only knew about extreme platforming they wouldn't think to do this. They would instead implement a way for us to reset our own scores. Our efforts and achievements go ignored. We're talking about some of the hardest levels ever created across any video game in the history of gaming. I feel sorry for anyone that has worked months to over a year to finally clear a level from the pro platforming community only for it to be reset. Glad I have done no such thing the past 20 days. Well there is still Epic Execution that took me 8 hours to clear, entire day worth of play. My friend Strider cleared xSURAx red and green levels after a year of attempts, and my Death by Chocolate after months of attempts. It would be a smarter idea to implement the option for us to reset scores individually if that would even be a possible addition in an update/patch. __________________________________________________ _________________________________________________ EDIT: It is better to leave the 4 million there. This isn't right to delete everyones score for past 20 days because of 4 million point scores we all know isn't legit. We can see who the real top 10 are. No need to do something like this. It should be kept until MM can implement a way to reset scoreboards without having to publish new and if that isn't possible just keep the 4 millions there. __________________________________________________ _________________________________________________ EDIT 2: If I had the money I would pay MM to not reset the scoreboards 20 days back, even if over $5,000. They don't even realize the effort that goes into some level clears. They're treating this like its simple to just go back and clear again. Not every level in LBP is a casual or easy level, and not every level is a hard level. Some are extreme with people that practice on a daily basis and can do things 95% of the community don't even know is possible and still can take months to clear levels designed for these players. I'm not just thinking of the world class platformists. I'm also thinking of the casual players that find hard levels to be a hard enough to take countless attempts over period of time to clear, even though we find those levels easy not everyone does.

2011-06-21 07:36:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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You are the exact sort of person that they are doing this for, people who take pride in their scores. They are doing the right thing by addressing the issue, they may be ruining a few scores that have been added since June 1st, but the fake scores are ruining every score ever placed before June 1st. Not all the scores are outrageous, some are just enough to be the best while being just unreachable. Giving us the ability to reset our scoreboard would not only take more time but would also be placing all this frustration on to the creators, Mm is taking one for its community which is pretty commendable.

2011-06-21 08:32:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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You are the exact sort of person that they are doing this for, people who take pride in their scores. They are doing the right thing by addressing the issue, they may be ruining a few scores that have been added since June 1st, but the fake scores are ruining every score ever placed before June 1st. Not all the scores are outrageous, some are just enough to be the best while being just unreachable. Giving us the ability to reset our scoreboard would not only take more time but would also be placing all this frustration on to the creators, Mm is taking one for its community which is pretty commendable. No, you are wrong. They are doing this because of people who would cheat their score using that glitch, not those that take pride in scores they earned. And for the record I don't care about scores, nor do 70% of pro platformists. What we do care about is that even having a score shows we cleared the level. So I wouldnt care how low score is because really when you clear the hardest levels in the world for a hobby that can take ages it is well earned and being on the scoreboard is proof of victory. Know what you're talking about before you post rude replies like that. Your first sentence was entirely uncalled for.

2011-06-21 08:46:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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It was not rude at all, and in fact was entirely true, I never did once mention that you would take pride in a high or low or any type of score. Just scores in general. Resetting the boards means wiping all scores, yes even your "proof of victories". Also, I am a bit irked at the fact that you completely disregarded my entire post and decided to pick at the first sentence instead. It's a bit disrespectful and quite honestly does not help your case.

2011-06-21 08:53:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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It was not rude at all, and in fact was entirely true, I never did once mention that you would take pride in a high or low or any type of score. Yes it was rude and not true. You clearly say in the first sentence people like me that take pride in their scores. In other words you insinuated I take pride in my scores and anyone like me is the reason MM is doing this. No, people like me is why MM apologized in this topic because it isn't fair to us. Then you contradict yourself. Just scores in general. Resetting the boards means wiping all scores, yes even your "proof of victories". Also, I am a bit irked at the fact that you completely disregarded my entire post and decided to pick at the first sentence instead. It's a bit disrespectful and quite honestly does not help your case. The rest of your post was irrelevant to me following your insult. Since you want an answer here it is . . . It doesn't matter how much time it takes as long as it gets done. It's not like one of those things where if it takes too long so much damage will be done that it can't be repaired.

2011-06-21 09:17:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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The rest of your post was irrelevant to me following your insult. Since you want an answer here it is . . . It doesn't matter how much time it takes as long as it gets done. It's not like one of those things where if it takes too long so much damage will be done that it can't be repaired. You seem to forget that Mm is a company, they don't have unlimited time and resources to waste on an inefficient, odd ball solution that would in the end only be to the detriment of themselves and their community. You can insult me, but it is a shame to see someone who plays LBP so much, turn around and shameless insult Mm by saying they are in the wrong and don't realize the situation. They are a group of amazing people who work hard to please the community by being as efficient and friendly as possible, only to have some bite the hand that feeds, and for matters that were not at all their fault. Getting back to the topic, this solution is the best for everyone, it is quick and effective, it requires no additional features to be put in the game.

2011-06-21 09:39:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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Good Job MM, this is how A person should take care of things~ I think they are doing the best way one should deal with this. and maybe after it's all back up. they'll let us reset are level's score when wanted also. *mew And I saw this coming as soon as people were cheating the scores. anybody should have not even have tried to get any scores for any reason if they heard about the cheaters, as with any game. to make sure you fix something right, and not miss anything. you make sure to clear it all. it'll always bug some people but it's the best and most fast way to take care of it. *mew

2011-06-21 10:14:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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You seem to forget that Mm is a company, they don't have unlimited time and resources to waste on an inefficient, odd ball solution that would in the end only be to the detriment of themselves and their community. You can insult me, but it is a shame to see someone who plays LBP so much, turn around and shameless insult Mm by saying they are in the wrong and don't realize the situation. They are a group of amazing people who work hard to please the community by being as efficient and friendly as possible, only to have some bite the hand that feeds, and for matters that were not at all their fault. Getting back to the topic, this solution is the best for everyone, it is quick and effective, it requires no additional features to be put in the game. A solution that involves removing the cheated scores without everyone else that earned them losing theres is not an 'inefficient', 'odd ball solution', or a 'detriment to themselves and their community'. And it is true MM does not realize the full effect of removing scores from past 3 weeks because they do not play in our community. No one insulted MM because that is just a fact. It is the worse idea they could come up with. Now if it isn't possible to add an option via patch/update for players to reset their own scoreboards, then ok this is their only option and no choice but to accept it as letting MM know your thoughts on it would do no good if there isn't another solution. This solution does more harm than good because there are far far far less cheated scores than legit scores. Therefor this is doing more damage than its fixing by removing all scores from the past 3 weeks. And of course MM are a group of good people that reach out to their community more than any game developers I've ever known of. Also I like how you didn't respond when I pointed out how you contradicted yourself when you said people like me that take pride in scores and then said you never said that. Also no one has insulted you. Oh, and I was just thinking there is only one thing that makes sense in your defense that you did not mention. It is possible this is only solution if people have used the glitch to cheat their own levels, because these people would not use an implemented feature to remove their own scores if they cheated their own levels. Therefor it's possible that this is the only solution for MM to remove the cheated scores themselves since my idea of an update/patch for our own option isn't feasible given the reason I just pointed out. But the reasons you gave were not a reason to go this route since they did not disclude the possibility of self removal option via a patch/update.

2011-06-21 10:49:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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A solution that involves removing the cheated scores without everyone else that earned them losing theres is not an 'inefficient', 'odd ball solution', or a 'detriment to themselves and their community'. And it is true MM does not realize the full effect of removing scores from past 3 weeks because they do not play in our community. No one insulted MM because that is just a fact. It is the worse idea they could come up with. Now if it isn't possible to add an option via patch/update for players to reset their own scoreboards, then ok this is their only option and no choice but to accept it as letting MM know your thoughts on it would do no good if there isn't another solution. This solution does more harm than good because there are far far far less cheated scores than legit scores. Therefor this is doing more damage than its fixing by removing all scores from the past 3 weeks. And of course MM are a group of good people that reach out to their community more than any game developers I've ever known of. Also I like how you didn't respond when I pointed out how you contradicted yourself when you said people like me that take pride in scores and then said you never said that. Also no one has insulted you. Oh, and I was just thinking there is only one thing that makes sense in your defense that you did not mention. It is possible this is only solution if people have used the glitch to cheat their own levels, because these people would not use an implemented feature to remove their own scores if they cheated their own levels. Therefor it's possible that this is the only solution for MM to remove the cheated scores themselves since my idea of an update/patch for our own option isn't feasible given the reason I just pointed out. But the reasons you gave were not a reason to go this route since they did not disclude the possibility of self removal option via a patch/update. I think the solution Mm are taking is the only viable one. If you cleared a tough level in the past 20 days - ok you will not have your name recorded on the leaderboard but you've still completed it. An option to completely reset individual scoreboards would first of all wipe off legitimate scores also, as well as leave many illegitimate scores still up from creators who don't go on LBP anymore. This is the only way to guarantee purging all fake scores from LBP.

2011-06-21 22:31:00 Author: thor Posts: 388

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I could not care less if someone gets a 4 Mil scoreon on one of my levels. I never look at the scores. All MM needed to do was ban the people that cheated and patch the glitch when its ready.

2011-06-22 23:38:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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I think the solution Mm are taking is the only viable one. If you cleared a tough level in the past 20 days - ok you will not have your name recorded on the leaderboard but you've still completed it. An option to completely reset individual scoreboards would first of all wipe off legitimate scores also, as well as leave many illegitimate scores still up from creators who don't go on LBP anymore. This is the only way to guarantee purging all fake scores from LBP. That is part of what I was getting at in last part of my last message. The only reason MM is doing this is for those people that care about their score. Otherwise there would be no problem leaving the cheated scores. So since they decided to remove them I realized some road blocks make this the only way.

2011-06-23 08:55:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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I hope the score boards come up soon!

2011-06-30 14:07:00 Author: Unknown User

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I always enjoy trying to get high scores in levels, but I'm not fussed about losing any I may have gained as a result of the roll-back. As long as it means there's no more glitched scores on levels ruining the experience for people, is losing scores of the last 30 days or so really such a big deal? It's just a score, if you cared THAT much for them, go get another one and try and do better than you already had done, or just find some new levels to get high scores on instead. People try to beat their scores when they exist on the scoreboards, what is the difference doing the same when they've been removed or lowered? To me that's a fun challenge to try and achieve what I had done or better because it no longer shows up on the scoreboards. If you don't like the challenge, just don't do it. Simple as.

2011-06-30 14:39:00 Author: Moonface Posts: 310

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Know what you're talking about before you post rude replies like that. Your first sentence was entirely uncalled for. No he's right, only ppl who care to act like they are better than the rest of the community are upset by this. Don't act like you're not being arrogant. I've seen your arrogant posts before, you are a Megalomaniac, and you need some serious psychiatric help if you are seriously going around talking about yourself like this. Quit acting like you are God's gift to LBP. I think the solution Mm are taking is the only viable one. If you cleared a tough level in the past 20 days - ok you will not have your name recorded on the leaderboard but you've still completed it. An option to completely reset individual scoreboards would first of all wipe off legitimate scores also, as well as leave many illegitimate scores still up from creators who don't go on LBP anymore. This is the only way to guarantee purging all fake scores from LBP. Seriously, the scoreboards will be down a few weeks, it's not like they took community levels down for a month. These ppl should be happythey can still play, at least te entire PSN isn't down. The only ppl rly upset about this are ppl who care what other ppl think about their scores too much.

2011-06-30 19:53:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Don't worry, Hot. The scoreboards will be up soon and you can go back to stalking them and messaging the people who play those stupid "leet jumpz" levels and tell them about how your friend "invented the glitch" and brag. Don't say this doesn't happen because I played a "leetz jump" level and right when I was done you messaged me bragging.

2011-06-30 22:59:00 Author: Unknown User

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Don't worry, Hot. The scoreboards will be up soon and you can go back to stalking them and messaging the people who play those stupid "leet jumpz" levels and tell them about how your friend "invented the glitch" and brag. Don't say this doesn't happen because I played a "leetz jump" level and right when I was done you messaged me bragging. She will say she didnt do that, she is completely incapable of realizing any fault on her part. Notice how she came onto this thread to complain about how she's mad her scores won't post, but then she flames littlebigdude for saying she cares about her scores not posting. And she had the audacity to say HE was rude! What's going on here? It's ok for you to insult ppl and treat the rest of us like crap, but it's not ok for us to point out a detail about you? I hate people like that, they are a Virus to our community.

2011-07-01 00:32:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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Don't worry, Hot. The scoreboards will be up soon and you can go back to stalking them and messaging the people who play those stupid "leet jumpz" levels and tell them about how your friend "invented the glitch" and brag. Don't say this doesn't happen because I played a "leetz jump" level and right when I was done you messaged me bragging. ? >> Stalking them? Bragging? I messaged you and others for damage control. That friend of mine had the wrong name of the technique listed so I messaged you telling you what it was called since I was the founder of said technique, otherwise you would have been misinformed. Someone lets you know the name and you treat me like this? >> That's just mean and rude. My friend wasnt on to change yet and said he was about to. And here I was wondering if you got the msg because you were only one not replying saying thanks or any notification of the info. She will say she didnt do that, she is completely incapable of realizing any fault on her part. Notice how she came onto this thread to complain about how she's mad her scores won't post, but then she flames littlebigdude for saying she cares about her scores not posting. And she had the audacity to say HE was rude! What's going on here? It's ok for you to insult ppl and treat the rest of us like crap, but it's not ok for us to point out a detail about you? I hate people like that, they are a Virus to our community. You need to go back and read. For one I never said I was mad scores arent posting. I was pointing out how its a bad idea to delete posts from the past 3 weeks because of those that earned their score just because of a few cheated scores and pointed out how there might be other possible solutions. And I flamed littlebigdude? For one flaming is saying things to someone that will get you banned, whether it be curse words, or any very hostile words towards another. Another thing you somehow missed was littlebigdude targeted me with an offensive comment. He started a charade, I responded in defense as is human nature. No one attacked him. He was extremely rude telling me MM is doing this for people that take pride in their scores like me, which made no sense for 2 reasons, one because i dont take pride in my score, and two MM is doing this because of a glitch from hazbell where he cheated scores which other now have, not earned their score. You're telling me I insulted and treat people like crap? And virus? The behavior you're displaying are the kind of people that give the community a bad image. You're saying everything the opposite of what I did and even saying things I never said. That's about as weird as it gets. >> It's like this is a prank or something because no one can have that much stupidity. You're smarter than that. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and think maybe your glasses were fogged when you read the exchanges between littlebigdude and I. And yes that last sentence was insulting because I'm finding it difficult to retain myself and stay calm after that mean post you left insulting me for no reason.

2011-07-07 20:33:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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? >> Stalking them? Bragging? I messaged you and others for damage control. That friend of mine had the wrong name of the technique listed so I messaged you telling you what it was called since I was the founder of said technique, otherwise you would have been misinformed. Someone lets you know the name and you treat me like this? >> That's just mean and rude. My friend wasnt on to change yet and said he was about to. And here I was wondering if you got the msg because you were only one not replying saying thanks or any notification of the info. You need to go back and read. For one I never said I was mad scores arent posting. I was pointing out how its a bad idea to delete posts from the past 3 weeks because of those that earned their score just because of a few cheated scores and pointed out how there might be other possible solutions. And I flamed littlebigdude? For one flaming is saying things to someone that will get you banned, whether it be curse words, or any very hostile words towards another. Another thing you somehow missed was littlebigdude targeted me with an offensive comment. He started a charade, I responded in defense as is human nature. No one attacked him. He was extremely rude telling me MM is doing this for people that take pride in their scores like me, which made no sense for 2 reasons, one because i dont take pride in my score, and two MM is doing this because of a glitch from hazbell where he cheated scores which other now have, not earned their score. You're telling me I insulted and treat people like crap? And virus? The behavior you're displaying are the kind of people that give the community a bad image. You're saying everything the opposite of what I did and even saying things I never said. That's about as weird as it gets. >> It's like this is a prank or something because no one can have that much stupidity. You're smarter than that. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and think maybe your glasses were fogged when you read the exchanges between littlebigdude and I. And yes that last sentence was insulting because I'm finding it difficult to retain myself and stay calm after that mean post you left insulting me for no reason. I didnt insult you for "no reason," I insulted you because you're an egotistical maniac who absolutely CANNOT see any fault in herself. I hate that people like you exist.

2011-07-07 20:40:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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I didnt insult you for "no reason," I insulted you because you're an egotistical maniac who absolutely CANNOT see any fault in herself. I hate that people like you exist. Why are you saying things like this to me? I never did anything to you and you don't even know me. Egotistical maniac? >> How do you figure that? I delete people from my list that have an egotistical attitude because it gives other players within pro community a bad rep. I spend a majority of my time helping others. And even when I mentor players in extreme platforming I teach them about not letting things go to their head and not having a high ego. The things your saying to me arent making any sense. It's hurtful and I have done nothing to you.

2011-07-07 20:48:00 Author: Hana_Kami Posts: 393

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Why are you saying things like this to me? I never did anything to you and you don't even know me. Egotistical maniac? >> How do you figure that? I delete people from my list that have an egotistical attitude because it gives other players within pro community a bad rep. I spend a majority of my time helping others. And even when I mentor players in extreme platforming I teach them about not letting things go to their head and not having a high ego. The things your saying to me arent making any sense. It's hurtful and I have done nothing to you. Maybe not to me personally, but you have hurt my community which I care deeply for, and that's just as bad. I have heard TONS of bad things about you, and your posts on this site only confirm what others have told me. And YOU delete OTHER ppl for being egotistical? One of your ex-friends told me HE deletes YOU because YOU were too egotistical. Obviously someone doesn't have their story straight. All you need to know about me is that I am anti-"leet" in LBP, and since you always refer to yourself as an LBP elite, you and I will never see eye to eye on this issue. One thing I hate to see is community members thinking they are better than others. Unless were talking about trolls or H4H'ers, were all the same. You are no better than I am, or anyone else on this forum. I would appreciate if you would stop acting like you were.

2011-07-07 21:08:00 Author: sp0ngyraver Posts: 407

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@Hana_Kami and sp0ngyraver If you must continue to argue, please take it to private messaging. Further off-topic posts will be deleted. Thanks!

2011-07-07 21:33:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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Was wondering if there is any word as of yet about when the boards will go live again? When looking at my recent play history for my stages I used the scores to see if people were scoring in the range I expected so I could tune the prizes at the end. EDIT: sorry if return time has been mentioned already, but its pretty noisy in here.

2011-07-09 00:16:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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Was wondering if there is any word as of yet about when the boards will go live again? When looking at my recent play history for my stages I used the scores to see if people were scoring in the range I expected so I could tune the prizes at the end. EDIT: sorry if return time has been mentioned already, but its pretty noisy in here. I haven't heard anything. The scoreboards are acting normal to me. I thought they were going to be down and you would not be able to upload your scores, but every level I play, my score uploads and I have a ranking, so I dunno. And I keep checking levels where I had the high score or in the top ten prior to the "reset" and it's still there, so I dunno. Guess they're still working on it.

2011-07-09 14:37:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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I haven't heard anything. The scoreboards are acting normal to me. I thought they were going to be down and you would not be able to upload your scores, but every level I play, my score uploads and I have a ranking, so I dunno. And I keep checking levels where I had the high score or in the top ten prior to the "reset" and it's still there, so I dunno. Guess they're still working on it. New scores aren't being kept and they haven't wiped the old ones biorogue. Rather bizzare how long they've been offlne...makes no sense to me. It's been fun explaining to people that my level isn't impossible and in fact more than 139 people have managed to complete it.

2011-07-09 17:20:00 Author: fullofwin Posts: 1214

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well the latest patch didn't fix the scoreboards as far as I can tell. I went to a couple of levels where I have the top score and it's still there. I wish they'd hurry up.

2011-07-13 01:49:00 Author: biorogue Posts: 8424

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