Archive: 48 posts

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Back in LBP1, a group of spammers, filled the Cool Pages with copied levels, old glitches etc. For whatever reason they loved being hated as they single handedly destroyed the community and drove a lit of people away. The fix, of course was very easy. All MM had to do was make it so that one creator could only have one level on Cool Pages at one time. Could they still create multiple accounts - sure, but it would make ita LOT more work. But MM did nothing and Cool Pages became wasteland of spam. But then LBP2 came out. And all was better. But the trend has come back recently. I've seen one person with several levels, They tend to post free costume giveaways (giving away costumes other creators have made), giving away other old gltches, etc. So, my worry is that other scammers will see this persons success and we will start seeing copy cats (seen a few already), and we will be right back where we started. So, I'm hoping MM will make it impossible for one person to spam Cool Pages. Hope they don't allow LBP2 to get "taken over". What do you guys think? Am I just worried over nothing? Or should MM be working to prevent these kinds of actions?

2011-06-14 17:31:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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One of the big problems is all the lbp1 levels being on lbp2 cool pages. MM should make a lbp1 cool level page and a lbp2 cool level page that are separate from each other, but that can both be played from from lbp2.

2011-06-14 19:48:00 Author: Xx_Mr_Orange_xX Posts: 115

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One of the big problems is all the lbp1 levels being on lbp2 cool pages. MM should make a lbp1 cool level page and a lbp2 cool level page that are separate from each other, but that can both be played from from lbp2. Yeah, that would be nice, especially since the filter button has to be reset everytime you maneuver away from it.

2011-06-14 20:26:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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^So big work pressing LBP away

2011-06-14 21:01:00 Author: Lakera-13 Posts: 85

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It's amazing how few people are willing to ignore the cool pages section and use other ways of finding good levels.

2011-06-14 21:23:00 Author: RagTagPwner Posts: 344

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^So big work pressing LBP away I'm not sure what you mean.

2011-06-14 22:19:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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I'm not sure what you mean. He's calling people lazy for not wanting to filter out LBP 1 levels every single time. I think it's utterly daft to have to set this option every time. It just doesn't make sense to me. I feel your pain CYMBOL. IMO LBP shouldn't be integrated with LBP2. I think just being able to port our levels, and stuff would've been plenty. Instead we have to look at all the LBP levels. And yes it is a pain to have to keep re-setting our settings. After about the millionth time it gets a bit old.

2011-06-14 23:58:00 Author: smasher Posts: 641

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Hey, theres a bunch of crappy levels from LBP2, its nearly imposseble to find good levels now. Besides the level showcase on the site

2011-06-15 00:28:00 Author: BonBonBoi Posts: 246

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It's impossible currently, you might not notice but there over 1.3 mil levels on cool pages mostlikely some of you level dusting htere on the deep buttom, so locking cool pages to 1 level per player would be more annoying then better Things like cool pages algorithm is not easy to change and it's already quite restrictive then it was before

2011-06-15 03:43:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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only problem is the missing seperation of lbp1 and lbp2. It wasnt such a big deal in the past but now as LBP1 is for free for 90% of all psn users the cool level pages are floated by all the same LBP1 levels... Its just a shame to scroll the pages down and see that there are just 99% of lbp1s. But i guess MM will not change it- they argue that you can filter it down but that brings nothing to people that want that their levels get seen by a lot of people.

2011-06-15 06:05:00 Author: Unknown User

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Most of the cool levels are the same kind of things. Just with a different name.

2011-06-15 13:31:00 Author: Unknown User

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Lol. Back in 2010, we all dreaded that lbp and lbp2 wouldn't be connected, now we are almost begging for it to go away.

2011-06-15 14:03:00 Author: poorjack Posts: 1806

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like who would think to filter it away which had not LBP 1? Which 8 years old random guy would filter it away? Would my grandpa filter it away? Regards: Seveni_7

2011-06-15 14:17:00 Author: Seveni_7 Posts: 109

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If you asked me, the problem lies with wanting to be on the Cool Pages as all. I see such a thing as a bonus, really... I've said it before and I'll say it again: if all you want is to get on the Cool Pages, then you're creating for the wrong reason (in my humble opinion.) You should create the levels you want and promote them and get feedback and hope that lots of people play them, but primarily you should create levels because you enjoy doing so. That's as simple as it should ever be.

2011-06-15 14:24:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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Lol. Back in 2010, we all dreaded that lbp and lbp2 wouldn't be connected, now we are almost begging for it to go away. I wouldn't mind if it wasn't still all shark and Beiber levels. But the big reason I don't play LBP1 levels is because they don't look the way the creator intended. I know my levels look so bad that I had to make them all LBP1 only. So, really, the backwards compatibility is a joke and they might as well get rid of it if they aren't going to fix it. Plus, its not really fair that LBP1 levels get players from both. In general, I think the Cool Pages are much better, I just want them to stop spammers once and for all, and it would be nice to have a LBP 1 tab and a separate LBP2 tab. Those two things would make things a lot better.

2011-06-15 14:38:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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If you asked me, the problem lies with wanting to be on the Cool Pages as all. I see such a thing as a bonus, really... I've said it before and I'll say it again: if all you want is to get on the Cool Pages, then you're creating for the wrong reason (in my humble opinion.) You should create the levels you want and promote them and get feedback and hope that lots of people play them, but primarily you should create levels because you enjoy doing so. That's as simple as it should ever be. You can talk easy like that If you spend lot of time on a level and see only few plays you eventually will hit question "for whom i creating for?", "Why i'm wasting time if no body play my level?". I don't create for myself, i create for other people to play it. Ofcorse this is matter of preference, maybe just creating satisfy you, but some people create to other people to enjoy it, if nobody visit your level the frustration begins and you make yet another thread titled "how to get noticed". Saddly only way to naturaly get plays is cool pages at leats on 5th page. Either way it's not whats the problem here Guys who are on cool pages are not create to even create something that can be played i noticed that somethign odd in them, it's seems like this is a group of people (or in conspirecy one person with many accounts), they got common things: -They all where emo style costumes -They all got name, age, country and list of people they like and ofcorse "Haters gonna hate" style of text, on the profile description -Making endless numbers of picture of there faces -They all hearting eachother What is most important here, those guys seems to be old LBP users, not Welcome Back people, which means they been posting levels in the past.... so why they appered right now? problem seems lies not in number of LBP1 creations that they publish, but number of players playing them at LBP1 since now it has more user and LBP2 plays boost them too, which boost them on LBP2 cool pages too. Solution to that would be cool pages isolation, but by isolation i don't mean getting rid of LBP1 level, but 2 cool pages lists, one for LBP1 and LBP2, one list takes LBP1 stats in account 2nd stats on LBP2. Thru it would be problem to integrate this idea to LBP.me They could also tune LBP2 levels importabce on cool pages, so LBP2 levels get more score then LBP1 and that should balance power back as it was, should do the job too

2011-06-15 15:00:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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MM most likely won't fixed this, because if they really wanted to, they would have by now. People will always find ways to spam, cheat, hack, ETC on online games sadly... But like Shadowriver said, A simple fix would be for MM to make two cool pages. And i agree with ya Schm0, To many people creating for the wrong reasons. can't people just enjoy making their fantasies come to life? instead of only caring about online fame? Well I know for sure I only create levels for my self~ And if everyone else enjoys it too. then it's Win win. *mew

2011-06-15 15:15:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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You should create the levels you want and promote them and get feedback and hope that lots of people play them, but primarily you should create levels because you enjoy doing so. That's as simple as it should ever be. MM should simply name "Cool Pages" to "Uncool Pages for Talentless Hacks" and we'd have our feature back within a day.

2011-06-15 15:24:00 Author: Antikris Posts: 1340

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And i agree with ya Schm0, To many people creating for the wrong reasons. can't people just enjoy making their fantasies come to life? instead of only caring about online fame? Well I know for sure I only create levels for my self~ And if everyone else enjoys it too. then it's Win win. *mew Maybe thats Your opinion. And thats fine with me but seriously: If you are a painter or filmmaker you WANT to get noticed. Its a totally normal thing to feel. That doesnt mean that we are attention whores. We just want get some feedback for our 4billion hours of WORK. Its nearly work for me. And when im doin a level for 2 month and the level just get played by 12 peoples i go fuuuuuuuu. totally normal thing to feel too.

2011-06-15 16:17:00 Author: Unknown User

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^I was talking about people who only create for fame. Nothing wrong with trying to get your levels noticed by people much as you can. but if you only create for wanting fame alone. and don't care how you do it or what way you go about it long as it gets you the "fame" Then it's a bad reason to create as your not enjoying the game. just wanting everyone to think your great. *mew

2011-06-15 16:34:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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^I was talking about people who only create for fame. Nothing wrong with trying to get your levels noticed by people much as you can. but if you only create for wanting fame alone. and don't care how you do it or what way you go about it long as it gets you the "fame" Then it's a bad reason to create as your not enjoying the game. just wanting everyone to think your great. *mew ahhh. okay i see. In your previous post it sounded a bit diffrent for me.

2011-06-15 17:03:00 Author: Unknown User

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MM most likely won't fixed this, because if they really wanted to, they would have by now. Changing something in retail game is not that easy, it needs planning, predicting, doing, testing, do few cycles along this things and then go. Cool pages core is on the server so if they change algorithm they don't need to patch the game, if changing structure (adding extra list), it will need patch so game will know what to ask server.

2011-06-15 17:40:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I think it's safe to say that MOST of the people on this site don't create for fame only. I'd say most of the people here are very passionate about their work, but just want some recognition for it. I know that's how I am. It's not about fame at all. I just want people to enjoy my stuff. Same as most of you.

2011-06-15 17:59:00 Author: smasher Posts: 641

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i am getting annoyned by these copied glitched and fake prize lvls bomb survival etc we should make a protest or something as the very good lvls arent in there because of it an idea if a lvl gets very lot of negative feedback it automatically gets deleated

2011-06-15 21:17:00 Author: danger sackboy Posts: 177

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we should make a protest or something We have to save the LBP community!

2011-06-15 22:04:00 Author: GameRoom Posts: 200

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i am getting annoyned by these copied glitched and fake prize lvls bomb survival etc we should make a protest or something as the very good lvls arent in there because of it an idea if a lvl gets very lot of negative feedback it automatically gets deleated We have to save the LBP community! Unfortunately, the community doesn't seem to be wise enough to stop it. It is utterly amazing that Justin Beiber levels are still played and hearted. The current MM system should work fine. Bad levels like that should pop up, get booed, and disappear, but they don't. Nothing MM can do about that. They gave the power to the community but the community keeps falling for these tricks. So, I can't fault MM for that too much. But what I can expect them to do is stop the spamming. They let it destroy LBP1 , and I'm hoping they don't sit back and watch these types ruin LBP2 as well. It's starting already and they need to stop it before it becomes rampant and people begin to leave.

2011-06-15 23:19:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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Yeah, someone should make a save LPB level or something.

2011-06-16 00:12:00 Author: GameRoom Posts: 200

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True, Modnation suffers the same fate...that has the same problems.

2011-06-16 00:57:00 Author: Unknown User

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Unfortunately, the community doesn't seem to be wise enough to stop it. It is utterly amazing that Justin Beiber levels are still played and hearted. The current MM system should work fine. Bad levels like that should pop up, get booed, and disappear, but they don't. Nothing MM can do about that. They gave the power to the community but the community keeps falling for these tricks. So, I can't fault MM for that too much. But what I can expect them to do is stop the spamming. They let it destroy LBP1 , and I'm hoping they don't sit back and watch these types ruin LBP2 as well. It's starting already and they need to stop it before it becomes rampant and people begin to leave. I just get into LBP online-mode since LBP2 because I wasnt able to get online before that. However, my question is: What do you guys mean by "ruined LBP1"? What does happend to LBP1? Im reading that a quite lot and ask myself what you talking about.

2011-06-16 01:51:00 Author: Unknown User

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It is utterly amazing that Justin Beiber levels are still played and hearted. Ripping Justin Beiber apart never gets old those levels was popular even before this LPB1 levels explosion we should make a protest or something There was already one guy who tried to move LBP community againts those levels... but instead he was bashed, because "you do this only for hearts" and "this level like spam too"... oh irony Imo I think even if MM won't react most people who got free LBP1 most likely will get borad of it or move to LBP2 over time, so it might go back to normal over time, istill belive issue is not number of levels published but number of plays of those levels in LBP1

2011-06-16 02:34:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I think some of these people that are spamming are taking advantage of all the new people on lbp1 and spamming twice as much as before.

2011-06-16 08:16:00 Author: Xx_Mr_Orange_xX Posts: 115

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Ripping Justin Beiber apart never gets old those levels was popular even before this LPB1 levels explosion From the point of view of a lowly sub 10 hearts player... I have published 1 stage, but had it locked for a long time so there was no chance of me getting on the 'cool' page. I don't really understand how it actually works yet. Anyway I spent about 100 hours learning and making that stage, it's had 77 plays. So nearly one for every hour spent. I really enjoyed making it and the response from those 77 people was overly positive. So this isn't a whine. I have found the time incredibaly rewarding, but I won't lie, I do wish more people enjoyed my work. Now; the thread I made on this site about the stage has roughly 400 views, so unless those 77 people looked at my thread 4 times each (going from the idea that all those plays came from this site) a lot of people weren't interested in playing it. Any community is only as good as it's members. So if say... 200 people looked at my thread saw the effort put into the stage and then decided not to play it then we have no one else to blame and can't really complain about the calibre of the stages that get exposure. I try to play all the stages in the level show case and cool threads and that's all I can really do. Or is it? There is a rating system with 4 choices. Heart, yay, boo and good grief. Let's say I make a level that says you can kill a sackgirl. You load in and beat her to death... awesome. Pretty offensive. What's different having a stage where it encourages violence towards a real person. Any Kill Justin Beiber stage I see I report. The community decides what is deemed offensive. If enough people think shark survival stages are Offensive, they are. It's also faster than booing and is anonymous.

2011-06-16 09:18:00 Author: Mr_Fusion Posts: 1799

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beats me why can't they reset these little spammers profile heart count and delete all their levels for exploiting the games system. I mean, are they creating for the community? Or publishing enough levels so kids will eventually hit the heart button 100th time around? I know stolen content on youtube will get your account banned, so why is it not applied here? Un-tick the Lbp1 box i'd say. But Mm are too much of sellouts as of late.

2011-06-16 11:57:00 Author: PPp_Killer Posts: 449

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I think even these "protest" levels are kinda spamming. Remember that guy who first made 1 movie about how LBP 2 is ruined too? Then when he got to top of cool page, of course he made another movie, where was like nothing new and it got to top too. Then he made 3. movie too, it didn't go so well, but anyway I am sure that guy first was thinking good, but when he got plays he just started spamming. Lol I remember "Kill Stephanie Ravens in 20 different ways"-lvls . People were pretty angry.

2011-06-17 11:09:00 Author: Lakera-13 Posts: 85

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The problem is theres really 2 halves to a gaming community, at least for some of them. The good half and the bad half. The good half are the ones who make good levels, don't spam, etc. The bad ones are the little 12 year old fraghead shooter addicts,the people who care about in game awards, etc. Sadly though the bad half is evidently larger then the good half.

2011-06-17 11:44:00 Author: DarrienEven Posts: 217

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My opinion is that the problem lies in the existence of the Cool pages itself. There's no reason for the Cool pages to exist imo...other than to satisfy the lazy and/or immature portion of the user base.

2011-06-17 15:38:00 Author: zabel99 Posts: 179

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My opinion is that the problem lies in the existence of the Cool pages itself. There's no reason for the Cool pages to exist imo...other than to satisfy the lazy and/or immature portion of the user base. There is, is to provide for player community a high rate levels, thats point of cool pages, game need to visit 3rd party web-site to get to any level would be considered failure of the game in gaming world The problem is theres really 2 halves to a gaming community, at least for some of them. The good half and the bad half. The good half are the ones who make good levels, don't spam, etc. The bad ones are the little 12 year old fraghead shooter addicts,the people who care about in game awards, etc. Sadly though the bad half is evidently larger then the good half. there a lot of many parts of community, for example there a group thta don't create at all and just play

2011-06-17 16:02:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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By halves I meant good and bad ones. Not what they do, but the quality of their person.

2011-06-17 21:56:00 Author: DarrienEven Posts: 217

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I wouldn't say person who plays more than creatively good person is some way from quality worse than creative person. I would say that creative player is not (maybe) as good player as more lvls playing person and that level creator maybe can't find so well levels either. Of course I like more creative players than those who only play other people's hours of work, but you know this is anyway PLAY, Create, Share .

2011-06-17 22:11:00 Author: Lakera-13 Posts: 85

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Meh, I would just like the ability to save my filter settings just like the way your decorated earth could be saved when online. As for those "destroy-a-city kill justin beiber h4h bomb shark survival" levels, I guess that's just the majority's taste in levels. They're not playing them against their will y'know. They just have terrible taste. A lot of them are in the 10 to 15 age group although there are some who are old enough to know better. And the cool pages is a reflection of their dubious taste in levels. Anywho, It would be nice to have a filter that remembers what settings you've chosen for it and it would be probably nice to have the default settings to just show LBP2 levels until you've changed it. That might give LBP2 levels just that bit more attention in the game they were made in.

2011-06-18 19:39:00 Author: D-E-S_87 Posts: 148

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There is, is to provide for player community a high rate levels, thats point of cool pages, game need to visit 3rd party web-site to get to any level would be considered failure of the game in gaming world Wait, are you saying that Cool pages take ratings into account? I wasn't aware of that. I thought it only went by play count. It still isn't necessary for it to exist, though. People should be able to find the levels they're interested in through search queries.

2011-06-19 16:04:00 Author: zabel99 Posts: 179

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Wait, are you saying that Cool pages take ratings into account? I wasn't aware of that. I thought it only went by play count. It still isn't necessary for it to exist, though. People should be able to find the levels they're interested in through search queries. hmm...don't agree with that. When playing with friends locally it's really useful for jumping into a quick match , containing levels of (decent/passable) quality.

2011-06-19 21:05:00 Author: Unknown User

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A question: Is there anyone from Mm that are active on LBPC? Will they look at this thread and realize that this is a huge problem? Because eventually, I think people will stop playing this game because they start to ask themselves: Why am I even playing this game?

2011-06-19 22:31:00 Author: Willman4 Posts: 170

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What I want is for LBP3 to come sooner rather than later and I want it to start over with a clean slate and ditch all the baggage from LBP1 and 2. It doesn't even have to be the same leap that LBP2 is over LBP1. Just make it an upgrade with the same tools, new levels, materials, etc, and really polish the freakin thing. Improve the online play, actually remove all the horrible bugs, fix the moderation system, add some OMG WOW feature that will make us drool, and maybe even do something bold like bumping the rating up to T or M. I would happily shell out the dough for a game like this. I really believe that most of the problems stem from the lack of a polished game and the fact it's rated E. I don't think a game that's also very much a social network driven by user generated content should be rated E. It's mostly small children that are dictating what gets all the attention and this combined with the game's technical problems are driving away good creators which means even less quality content.

2011-06-19 23:35:00 Author: Reef1978 Posts: 527

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wait, did this happen after or before the welcome back program? im thinking that the flood of new people probibly couldent resist the temptation of the hearts and decided to do h4h, and really, making lbp1 free at this stage in the lbp1 comunity was a bad idea on sonys part, though i dont think that they knew about the state of said comunity, let alone care about it. so maybe this was just a flood of minions for the h4h god? and maybe even do something bold like bumping the rating up to T or M that happening would probibly never be done, and really theres a ton of t rated stuff on lbp already. so there would be no point to that. also, its kinda impossible to do that, because then they would have to change the story mode.

2011-06-19 23:40:00 Author: Unknown User

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Wouldn't a page on LBP of the showcase levels here on LBPC be nice. But then this site would probably be full of spamming instead.

2011-06-19 23:54:00 Author: Willman4 Posts: 170

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hmm...don't agree with that. When playing with friends locally it's really useful for jumping into a quick match , containing levels of (decent/passable) quality. If the search feature was better implemented, with more filters such as "by thermo usage", "by create time", "by ratio of hearts to plays" etc, or any combination of filters you fancied, I believe you would be able to find levels of decent/passable quality just as easily if not more easily. I could be wrong. I'll go this far with you though: Even if it turned out that it was harder to queue up levels absent the Cool pages, I think that the benefits would outweigh that cost. As I've said before, we've all learned to find the websites we're looking for on Google without having something like "Cool sites" thrust in our face. Any time you have a specially favored group, the answer to the question "what gets to be in the specially favored group?" not only must necessarily fail to please everyone, but also has the potential to lead to abuse.

2011-06-20 18:46:00 Author: zabel99 Posts: 179

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I think they should have an advanced search feature, were you could limit your search by LBP version, friends/hearted creators, tags, co-op/movie/versus, thermo space, creation time, popularity (both by number of approvals and hearts), date of publication and text. That or putting more work on the level filter. I don't want to be always re-setting it, not because I'm lazy but because it's a redundancy, a counter-intuitive waste of time. It's also a pain this filter just being available in the cool pages section. What good is it to me if I do a text search and I have to scroll down a ton of LBP1 garbage levels every single time? Decent levels take as much effort to find as it is with the constant torrent of spam-copies and garbage levels, why not ease the process with better searching options? Small wonder some gems pass unnoticed without getting the plays or recognition their creators deserve, while the "Cool Levels" page is clogged up with stuff like "10 Ways to Kill Justin Bieber", "Hotel Bomb Survival", "Shark Survival", etc.

2011-06-23 01:19:00 Author: SnipySev Posts: 2452

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