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What strategy do you use to make music? Do you have a certain song in mind and simply try to match it, or do you toss together a self composition and just work from there? I'm asking because I'm having an awful time with making music. I can never combine each different instrument to make memorable things to listen to, and of course, it all just sounds awful most of the time. I suppose this kind of thing takes quite a lot of time to perfect, and having no experience making music otherwise probably doesn't help at all either. Any helpful insight, or is it just an ability some people have and others lack? | 2011-06-08 22:05:00 Author: SSTAGG1 Posts: 1136 |
Well for me, I make songs using sheet music since I don't self compose (would like to one day) but it depends if you have the ability to read sheet music take that avenue, if you want to replicate songs then download (if there is of it online) the midi of the song and a midi to sheet music program and work with that but of course you'll need to know how to read sheet music to do this as well. Hope that helps some | 2011-06-08 22:12:00 Author: TheManofSteel3kO Posts: 74 |
Well...I'm musically schizophrenic...so uh...maybe bang your head again the wall or listen to rebecca black till you start hearing things. | 2011-06-08 22:40:00 Author: comishguy67 Posts: 849 |
I'm a concert brass player, which I why I thought I'd be able to do it, but no such luck. I haven't tried simply transposing the music into LBP yet though, have to give that a shot. Now I guess it's just a matter of finding the right sound for each part. EDIT: (comish) HAH, wow, now that's funny. | 2011-06-08 22:42:00 Author: SSTAGG1 Posts: 1136 |
Well yes there are a couple a techniques you can use. I like to create a temporary drum sound that imitates a tempo so i never get out of rhythm when I make my music. I use 120-125 bpm to make trance music and 188-190bpm for drum and bass. I like to use the Cathedral setting that makes the music sound really good. You can also play a little with the echo settings to alter the sound of instruments. Knowing that, you can make music a you please. | 2011-06-08 23:13:00 Author: NeonSudagatz Posts: 75 |
is it just an ability some people have and others lack? I think you nailed it right on the head with that question.... No matter how hard I've tried, I cant make anything that sounds decent. In the end, I'll probably try to befriend a musician, or something... lol | 2011-06-09 02:53:00 Author: smasher Posts: 641 |
Before LBP2 I actually had no experience in making music at all, but I do know that having the ability to compose music is achievable by anyone; being able to compose music that sounds "appealing enough" is a talent within itself. I for one have not composed any music of my own yet, but I have done covers of several other pieces which have helped me become a better musician in a way. And because I cannot read sheet music whatsoever, I have to rely on my musical ear to determine which note is which in whatever tempo. Practice makes permanent. I cannot give enough emphasis on that. The more music you create, the better you will get at it. One method you could possibly use is one you've mentioned earlier; pick out a melody from an existing song you like, and then build onto it from there. Try altering its tempo, replacing the current instruments with different ones, or adding more instruments to it to give it that feeling of a full texture. Having to decide on the instruments themselves can be a challenge, but remember that the notes stay the same when you replace the instrument node with another. So try playing around with that. You can also grab the music sequencer prizes from various LBP musicians, take them to your moon and see how they did it. I know there are many more techniques to this, but I hope this has helped you a bit. ^^ | 2011-06-09 10:45:00 Author: Qrii_Nakari Posts: 204 |
I for one have not composed any music of my own yet, but I have done covers of several other pieces which have helped me become a better musician in a way. And because I cannot read sheet music whatsoever, I have to rely on my musical ear to determine which note is which in whatever tempo. You did a great job on that by the way. Anyways, getting the rhythm down first is the best way to start I personally think. I've also learned that starting simple and clean, then going back through and adding flair later is a good way of creating music. The hardest part is thinking up a creative tune though. I'm not really all that experienced though, so I'm not much help. | 2011-06-12 07:02:00 Author: RagTagPwner Posts: 344 |
I'm not amazing or anything but I have worked a lot with Logic ( The program ) and have managed some pretty sweet stuff. I haven't really tried much on LBP yet. I usually just start with any instrument, usually Bass, or piano, or synth. Then once you get a good melody you can go from there and layer it up. I have the most trouble with making beats though. | 2011-06-12 20:52:00 Author: Krondelo Posts: 136 |
I usually just start with any instrument, usually Bass, or piano, or synth. Then once you get a good melody you can go from there and layer it up. I have the most trouble with making beats though. I guess you (the OP) should just start with any one part of the song. Whether it's the melody or beat. Whatever comes to your head first. | 2011-06-12 21:05:00 Author: RagTagPwner Posts: 344 |
I myself have made quite a few songs. Most of these have been Pendulum covers which can have parts which are tricky to remake, but I have also composed my own pieces. If you are looking to cover a song then find it helps a lot if you already play an instrument or read some kind of music. If you don't then you could always listen to the song and try and hit the note that matches it. You may find it easier if you create the drumbeat first. If you are struggling to find out the BPM (tempo) of the song then you can always go on the internet and look or equally you could look for a programme that calculates the BPM of a song for you. If you are trying to compose your own piece then the best way for someone new to the music sequencers would probably to change the scale. The music sequencers are automatically set to the chromatic scale. This, however, can be changed to a Pentatonic scale. The pentatonic scale allows you to combine any of the notes on the keyboard and no matter what you end up with it will sound good! Many proffessional musicians use the Pentatonic scale to compose pieces - especially guitarists composing a solo. from here you might want to decide on a key for your scale and and tempo for the song. Once you have done this you can start to play around with different instruments and see what you get. Hope this helps, if you would like more information feel free to contact me over PSN. Good luck and have fun! - born2fight29 | 2011-06-18 18:23:00 Author: Unknown User |
And because I cannot read sheet music whatsoever, I have to rely on my musical ear to determine which note is which in whatever tempo. Same here. Sheet music is like an alien language to me. | 2011-06-18 19:59:00 Author: D-E-S_87 Posts: 148 |
I usually try to recreate a song, but fail to create it. Than I change it to my own song. | 2011-06-19 18:24:00 Author: Cactii Posts: 426 |
I always start by making a song in my computer's music sequencer (I use Cubase), and THEN I try recreating it in little Big Planet 2. LBP 2's sequencer is simply too unintuitive for raw composition. You have to have a plan beforehand. | 2011-06-19 18:33:00 Author: synchronizer Posts: 287 |
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