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Apple - A thriving society

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Hello LBPC citizens:

Just wanted to talk about the Apple inc. in this thread. From the iPod to the iPad, Apple has done it all. Speaking of Apple I'm on my iPad typing this right now. We anyways, just want to talk to you guys about your opinions and what not.

EDIT: They are making a new software, iOS5

EDIT EDIT: In attempt to restart this discussion we will now be talking about the iPhone 5 and the rumors that surround it. Please leave your comments below. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Klak_334
2011-06-06 21:34:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


All I know is that Apple has the best customer service I've ever encountered from any company. EVER. 2011-06-06 21:37:00

Author:
abyssalassassin
Posts: 717


Believe it or not I have never been into an Apple store in my entire life. The only person I know who works at Apple is Steve Jobs.2011-06-06 21:48:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


All I know is that Apple has the best customer service I've ever encountered from any company. EVER.

you probably talked to me.
2011-06-06 21:56:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730


Do you work at the Apple store Deftmute?2011-06-06 22:45:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I like Apple and the products they provide, but I've never liked the huge veil of secrecy that surrounds everything they do. I know it helps to build hype around new products, but I would appreciate some more transparency.2011-06-06 23:00:00

Author:
booXely
Posts: 654


In short, I conned apple out of nearly 7 quid accidentally. I tried to buy a movie, it glitched on me and I lost 6.99, I tried everything they told me to do and it didn't work. They refunded me 6.99 and a free song credit. I eventually decided, what the hey, to try and buy the same movie again even though I was worried it might glitch on me for a second time. I purchased it, got the content and it didn't charge me.

Are you sure it was you Deftmute? I'd like to think you were smarter than that.
2011-06-06 23:23:00

Author:
abyssalassassin
Posts: 717


Compared to Droid, Apple is more casual. Droid is best if you're a big business person, but other than that i'd get an iphone.

Except for the iphone 4. That just is... ugh.
2011-06-07 00:04:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607


Exactly iPhones are more for games, music, movies and android is for well what JspOt said business. But Apple is great their computers never seen to get viruses.2011-06-07 00:07:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


They never "seem" to get viruses because the desktop version of iOS has an almost unbreakable malware/security/firewall system. 2011-06-07 00:10:00

Author:
abyssalassassin
Posts: 717


That's why Apple is better than Windows.2011-06-07 00:17:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


right, I'm probably going to get called rotten here but I don't care. I've had this conversation many times with my friends over this issue.

I don't honestly know how Apple can get off selling their products at extortionate prices.

Take a apple version laptop, it's exactly the same as Windows pc's with the exception of a different operating system, they both work in the same way and do the same things. They have the same graphics cards,ram, processors, everything, you name it. But they charge more for it.

Secondly an Ipod, it plays music, amazingly, like any other mp3 player on the market. But yet again, you can pay double/tripple/quadruple the price of any other mp3 player on the market.

The reason I think they do this personally is just the design of the products. Your not only paying for the device, your paying for their time and effort that they've taken to create the look of their product.

On top of this they are giving you software that messes up numerous times. I've lost the amount of times I've read friends on facebook moaning that their beloved Itunes has deleted all of their song, playlists and generally messed up their whole Ipod that then needs a master restore.

When the next generation Ipod comes out it then means that the last generation becomes obsolete and cannot be repaired within Apple.

Other mp3 players use software that is easier to use, gives great functionality to their products. One of the massive reasons I love 'normal' mp3 players is that they have the functionality to 'drag and drop', meaning I don't need to spend more than a few minutes dragging music that I want on to my device. I can be done within a few minutes and I'm happy as Larry.

Itunes has a system of syncing the device to your pc, which when was first introduced I heard many problems that the mp3 player simply wouldn't sync, which meant they couldn't access their files. Everytime you plug your ipod to your pc, it checks all the files, for new files, for updates, making the process slower.

Unlike other mp3 players, Ipod only lets you use Ipod format music/files, you couldn't use a SONY 'ATRAC' file on an ipod, it would need to convert it into apple. Meaning if you have a massive library of music which is saved as a wmp. it will convert all of it, defeating the object of being fast.

The other thing is that you usually need to jailbreak the devices in order to fully get them to work. My brother recently bought an Ipad just so he could watch his football from a streamed wesbite whilst on the go. He wasn't able to do this because of the simplest thing EVER. Ipad simply doesn't let you use flash without jailbreaking the device and installing different browsers and applications. Since he's done that, he is now able to do this, but why would you spend a good ?400 that I'd consider hardly works? You may as well buy a laptop?

haa anyway, I've probably dug myself in to some sort of hole, as I usually do with my friends. They don't understand why I'm against the whole Apple thing, but I just really dislike them just because of the reasons stated above.
2011-06-07 01:14:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I get your point dbibby88 and definitely see why your friends get mad at you. With the music topic I'm with you though, Apple charges too much that's why I have an Android phone and get music for FREE (yes I said the "f" word) to listen too. But with the computers I'm a fan of Apple. They are awesome. But that is a topic that is controversial. There is something about Apple that I don't like though. It's almost like a bad sci-fi movie where machines will take over the world because everyone has them, but that's my personal fantasy though soo back off. Ohh and dbibby88 before I go... You. are. ROTTEN. (don't hate me yet just read the above post)

Klak_334 out!
2011-06-07 03:13:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I'm taking a dislike to their recent acceleration in development. It's to be expected in this era, but come on.

Otherwise I'm very cool with them.
2011-06-07 03:55:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046


Yeah Apple did kinda take us by surprise. First an iPhone then a whole fleet of them.2011-06-07 04:25:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Unlike other mp3 players, Ipod only lets you use Ipod format music/files, you couldn't use a SONY 'ATRAC' file on an ipod, it would need to convert it into apple. Meaning if you have a massive library of music which is saved as a wmp. it will convert all of it, defeating the object of being fast.

That's another problem I've had with Apple. Not just the music formatting, just how everything must go their way, and meet their standards. Apple started out as the young, cool, hip, upstart company against the huge Microsoft, but they've turned into that giant themselves.
2011-06-07 04:33:00

Author:
booXely
Posts: 654


Ugh. apple.
I bet whoever took a bite out of their logo spit it back in their face.
2011-06-07 05:20:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


Apple to me is overrated now. Rather than pursuing new technology, they're milking their old one (i.e. iPhone 4).

I'll admit, they've impressed me with their OS and touch screen breakthroughs. But other than that, I'd pass on all their products.
2011-06-07 05:32:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


That's another problem I've had with Apple. Not just the music formatting, just how everything must go their way, and meet their standards. Apple started out as the young, cool, hip, upstart company against the huge Microsoft, but they've turned into that giant themselves.

Exactly.


Ugh. apple.
I bet whoever took a bite out of their logo spit it back in their face.

Not exactly.
2011-06-07 05:36:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


http://tctechcrunch.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/mac-pc.png?w=307&h=347
if these two people wanted a job in I.T. which would you hire?

the truth hurts doesn't it
2011-06-07 08:02:00

Author:
darcyh
Posts: 191


http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/apple-funny.jpg2011-06-07 08:08:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


Secondly an Ipod, it plays music, amazingly, like any other mp3 player on the market. But yet again, you can pay double/tripple/quadruple the price of any other mp3 player on the market.
The reason I think they do this personally is just the design of the products. Your not only paying for the device, your paying for their time and effort that they've taken to create the look of their product.
On top of this they are giving you software that messes up numerous times. I've lost the amount of times I've read friends on facebook moaning that their beloved Itunes has deleted all of their song, playlists and generally messed up their whole Ipod that then needs a master restore.
Don't have an ipod, I have an ishuffle and i love it to death. In the years i've owned it, it has been in the washer 3 times, been frozen 5 times, fallen of the first floor 1 time, dropped it on the floor countless of times, used it many times in the rain and it still works flawlessy. I don't really understand several of your arguments like the "dragging"? Apple is all about dragging man! The fact that you can't use ATRAC compression is pretty obvious too, it was developped by Sony, besides that i don't miss it al all since ATRAC sounds pretty awfull

Don't get me wrong, i'm not a fanboy (as a matter of fact i'm ordering my 4th (!) Mac next week in 6 months because all the others had faults) but some of their product are pretty good. Their 'magic mouse' is one of those products imho, i don't think i've ever used a mouse in my life that's so fast to work with.

cheers,
misty
2011-06-07 10:27:00

Author:
Mother-Misty
Posts: 574


Don't have an ipod, I have an ishuffle and i love it to death. In the years i've owned it, it has been in the washer 3 times, been frozen 5 times, fallen of the first floor 1 time, dropped it on the floor countless of times, used it many times in the rain and it still works flawlessy.

My old 2nd gen iPod Nano fell out of a bus going 30mph and it still works!
2011-06-07 11:08:00

Author:
Rhys125
Posts: 841


I mean dragging songs by not opening any software to do so. My mp3 player allows me to drag it through the Windows system in my computer. I actually have a Nokia 5800 xpress music phone (That I won from pepsi over a year ago). It allows me to either install Nokia software to install apps, songs, images, videos etc which can be a ball ache because it;s very confusing software. Or it lets me drag music on to it, it doesn't take all day converting it into 'nokia' files or anything. If it doesn't think it'll work on the device it will tell me. That's what I like, just being able to drag and drop thing on realy quickly before going out.2011-06-07 11:13:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I get your point dbibby88 and definitely see why your friends get mad at you. With the music topic I'm with you though, Apple charges too much that's why I have an Android phone and get music for FREE (yes I said the "f" word) to listen too. But with the computers I'm a fan of Apple. They are awesome. But that is a topic that is controversial. There is something about Apple that I don't like though. It's almost like a bad sci-fi movie where machines will take over the world because everyone has them, but that's my personal fantasy though soo back off. Ohh and dbibby88 before I go... You. are. ROTTEN. (don't hate me yet just read the above post)

Klak_334 out!

Yes their computers are OKAY, but my point was, if you shop around and find the same spec computer in Windows format you'll see a huge price difference. As I stated originally they both have the same gadgets and latest gizmos in them aswell.

Another point is that the conversion to Apple and Windows, Windows to Apple. I had a problem during uni where I had a Windows computer and uni used Mac computers. I wasn't able to add my Illustrator files properly sometimes (not every time), but this meant I had to work around it by using different adobe files such as PDF and creating outlines, just to get on with my work.

Industries usually use the same sort of the computers so that they are able to work on them properly, such as in the design industry, everyone uses macs.
2011-06-07 11:17:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I don't like Apple at all..

Not because of what they make - I think their products are fantastic little gadgets.
But it seems to turn anyone who uses them into a crushing bore who can't speak or think about anything else.

"No, I don't want to see your new app - there is no App for loneliness"
2011-06-07 11:40:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


I don't like Apple at all..

Not because of what they make - I think their products are fantastic little gadgets.
But it seems to turn anyone who uses them into a crushing bore who can't speak or think about anything else.

"No, I don't want to see your new app - there is no App for loneliness"
I have to completely disagree with you. I was already boring before I got an Apple Mac

On a more serious not, I quite like Apple, for one very simple reason. The products they make fit my needs/wants, though I'm not entirely happy about paying the so called 'Apple Tax'. Sure Apple puts a lot more effort into designing their products than others, but, I still don't think that justifies all of the extra coin you end up handing over. On the other had, you can't really blame Apple, they're a company and they want to make profit. There's not really anything else like the products Apple makes, so they're free to charge what they want, I'm sure any other company would do exactly the same if they were in the same position.
2011-06-07 12:01:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


Yes their computers are OKAY, but my point was, if you shop around and find the same spec computer in Windows format you'll see a huge price difference. As I stated originally they both have the same gadgets and latest gizmos in them aswell.
Since there's only 1 Apple and 1000's of different brands of PC's it's hard to compare and say they all have the same gadgets. My iMac only needs 1 cable for example, a power cable, nothing more! I don't know any PC that does that...

cheers,
misty
2011-06-07 12:17:00

Author:
Mother-Misty
Posts: 574


Sure Apple puts a lot more effort into designing their products than others, but, I still don't think that justifies all of the extra coin you end up handing over.

Absolutely not! All of Apple's products are just fancied up a bit. The only products they had to "think" about was the first iPhone and the first iPod. After that they just made them smaller or larger (iPhone to iPad) and changed up the design. All their products use the same technology. They just move different features to different products.
2011-06-07 14:22:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Since there's only 1 Apple and 1000's of different brands of PC's it's hard to compare and say they all have the same gadgets. My iMac only needs 1 cable for example, a power cable, nothing more! I don't know any PC that does that...

cheers,
misty

nooo I'm not meaning software as in gadgets. Your missing my point haha.

I meant it has the same hardware inside of it. When I was looking a few years ago at the differences, the only thing I could spot was the price. I'll take an example of an imac now



APPLE MC813B/A
Price: ?1399
Processor:Intel Core i5 Memory
(RAM):4 GB
Storage Capacity:1 TB
Operating system:Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
Dedicated graphics:ATI RadeonHD 6770m 512 MB


HP LR149EA/ABU15.6" LAPTOP
Price: ?899.99
Screen size:15.6 inches
Processor:Intel Core i5 Memory
(RAM):4 GB
Storage (hard drive):1TB
Operating system:Windows 7 Home Premium

okay, so two typical computers I found on an electronic site. More or less the same, with the exception the mac has a dedicated graphics card. But notice the price difference, how on earth does a graphics card cost a good nearly ?500 more?

The point I'm making is that what is the point on forking out more money on something, that you can get for cheaper and it does exactly the same?
2011-06-07 18:05:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Are you sure it was you Deftmute? I'd like to think you were smarter than that.

nope, thats not my dept.
2011-06-07 18:28:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730


nooo I'm not meaning software as in gadgets. Your missing my point haha.
I'm talking about hardware too man (by gadgets i mean 1 cable, wireless keyboard, magic mouse, ...)


okay, so two typical computers I found on an electronic site. More or less the same, with the exception the mac has a dedicated graphics card. But notice the price difference, how on earth does a graphics card cost a good nearly ?500 more?
You are comparing a desktop computer vs. a laptop, besides that, that desktop has a 27" LED screen (and it's pretty awesome btw) vs a crappy 15" HP laptop screen.
That iMac is actually pretty good value for money if you ask me (can't say that from all apple products though, a G5 is overly priced imho for example)

cheers,
misty
2011-06-07 18:36:00

Author:
Mother-Misty
Posts: 574


I agree with Misty here. Although it may seem That it costs more, the product you get is worth it. Windows will never be able to deliver as good as a product as Apple does.2011-06-07 19:38:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


nope, thats not my dept.

Of course it isn't...
2011-06-07 22:25:00

Author:
abyssalassassin
Posts: 717


I stick to Windows and IE. I always like a challenge. 2011-06-07 23:05:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Not read the entire thread, but on the Mac vs PC debate that seems to be raging on above...

I bought the basic 20inch iMac in 2007 and loved it, but it started getting a bit slow so I decided to upgrade. Then I realised I couldn;t afford to upgrade. So I built a PC instead. And for ?700, I have a PC that can play Crysis on high at 1080p, and pretty much any other game, 4 times more memory than I had before, a 1920x1080 screen that's bigger than before, and just about everything else is better. And it's less than 2/3rds the price I paid for the iMac.

I love Apple products (I've always used iPods and I love my iPhone), but PC's are better value than Macs.

Edit: I'm not voting in the poll because Apple are my favourite for MP3's, the iPhone etc and I do like the macs, but my PC is far more powerful than any standard iMac (obviously the Mac Pros are a different story, and far more expensive...)
2011-06-07 23:49:00

Author:
Unknown User


Of course it isn't...

hey now...

but seriously i'm the last person they'd want to put in charge of refunds lol.
i'm tech support.
2011-06-07 23:51:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730


The point I'm making is that what is the point on forking out more money on something, that you can get for cheaper and it does exactly the same?

Well, that's actually quite an interesting point when you think about it. What something does really depends on the owner.

For most people nice aluminum, glass and a minimalist design wouldn't mean anything to them. Shallow as it may seem, I like using good looking products made from quality materials, I have fun using them, and that's what I want. I want to even enjoy just the menial tasks like typing. So for me the aesthetics do actually do something.

I won't go through every example, my point is simply that a device can 'do' more for one person than it can for another.
2011-06-08 01:11:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


I won't go through every example, my point is simply that a device can 'do' more for one person than it can for another.

Which is the basis Apple works on a lot of the time. The simpler, the better. The new iPod nano literally had one button on the entire device. The "On" button. And yet, I love it. The simplicity of it makes it great for working out, going for a run, etc. The way Apple builds hype for its products are what make them so succesful. Have you guys seen the billboard ad for the iPad 2? It was so simple, yet it got people excited for the new product.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a3Z1c2DWEzM/TXVjK3OJcKI/AAAAAAAAaD0/9IwWVirivVM/s800/Apple%2BiPad%2B2%2Bbillboard.jpg

And it worked.
2011-06-08 01:26:00

Author:
booXely
Posts: 654


That's what Apple is, simple. The iPhones main button is the Home button (that little square) is so much niceful and useful than a phone with six buttons along the bottom edge. That's why Apple gets so much attention because they make good looking products. If it looks nice it sells well.

P.S. - Does anyone know why part of the Apple on the Apple logo is missing?
2011-06-08 02:35:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I have an Apple alarm clock. It's a nice alarm clock.2011-06-08 02:51:00

Author:
GameRoom
Posts: 200


I have an Apple alarm clock. It's a nice alarm clock.

The iClock?? I've never heard of one, I'll have to look it up on Google.

(after searching the WWW)

Wait is it just an iHome? Or is it a clock shaped like an apple?
2011-06-08 02:55:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


The iClock?? I've never heard of one, I'll have to look it up on Google.

(after searching the WWW)

Wait is it just an iHome? Or is it a clock shaped like an apple?

I think he meant iHome. My sister has one of those and neeeeever uses it.

My family is a PC-mod family, so all of our laptops and computers are heavy, high-powered things. Many of my friends have iPhones and iPods (I wish I had one T_T) and iMacs, and, tbh, they're pretty good. But I'll never get one because of one main thing: it's too weak. You'll never get viruses on them, but you won't be able to run power-sapping games like RCT3, Crysis and the like. Apple needs to finally go for it and put some power behind their products... and some better quality glass. Because my friends are getting tired of dropping their iPhones once and having their entire touchscreen shatter.

I'm calling it out early in saying that after the iCloud, Apple's finally gonna make an iTV.
2011-06-08 04:30:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2070/pcsarebetterthanmac.jpg2011-06-08 05:06:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Would be ironic if that image was made using an image editor on a mac Although maybe not, it is a bit of mac propaganda.2011-06-08 05:50:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


P.S. - Does anyone know why part of the Apple on the Apple logo is missing?

I've heard that it was based on Alan Turing who was a British mathematician, who did work for computer science. He was actually killed by biting in to an apple which had been poisoned with potassium cyanide.

I found this out during uni, I'm not sure how true this is, but It's a rumour/thought that is looming around.

I found this to back it up:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_there_a_bite_out_of_the_Apple_logo
2011-06-08 10:56:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I've heard that it was based on Alan Turing who was a British mathematician, who did work for computer science. He was actually killed by biting in to an apple which had been poisoned with potassium cyanide.

Wow that's interesting, I just don't know why a major corporation, like Apple, would use a small tidbit of information. But hey, it's still cool. R.I.P. Alan Turing.
2011-06-08 13:40:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Accually, to whoever talked about an iTV, the already kinda have one the Apple TV. A tiny little box that let's you rent shows and movies, watch sports games, and get on Netflix. But I think I know what you mean, a full size (touchscreen possibly) , TV that has a good lookin Apple logo on the back and is only half an inch thicker than the iPad.2011-06-08 13:50:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


That is just a rumour...
(from wikipedia) "The logo is often erroneously referred to as a tribute to Alan Turing, with the bite mark a reference to his method of suicide.Both the designer of the logo and the company deny that there is any homage to Turing in the design of the logo."

cheers,
misty
2011-06-08 13:51:00

Author:
Mother-Misty
Posts: 574


I know it's a rumor, because it's from wiki, but I still thing it's cool even if it's just a pure coincidence.2011-06-08 13:57:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I have a lot of Apple products (iPad 2, iPad, iPod touch, iPhone 4, iMac) so I like apple. I love my iMac and it feels more comfortable than a PC though when I got my iMac I didn't want it to play games as I had my PS3 and I felt that that was enough, but now I kinda wish I had a PC too so I could play games.


http://tctechcrunch.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/mac-pc.png?w=307&h=347
if these two people wanted a job in I.T. which would you hire?

the truth hurts doesn't it

The guy to the right. The other guy looks nerdy and boring.
2011-06-08 16:48:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


I think apple is a decent brand. Does what it says on the box.
And while it costs quite a bit, it's a premium you pay for service and design.

Not the components however. Anything that's not presentation is subpar for what you pay for.
That's why they have an expensive display and nicely designed exterior. But a foxconn mobo.
It's a fair tradeoff for the service and hardware being the same on every computer they sell.

Also as far as mp3 players go, mine runs ubuntu lol.
2011-06-08 17:22:00

Author:
ll_ye
Posts: 236


I don't know how fair the price trade off is but you made a good point. I still think Apple charges a bit more than they should for their products. If they lower their prices I bet they would get price the business.2011-06-08 19:54:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I love apple except for the itunes. No matter what I do I can't get 5 songs without spending buckets of cash. I am barely well off enough to own an ipod touch. When I got it I didn't even have enough money for songs. For months I had to walk about with only about 10 songs that I spent a bajillion quid on. I needed youtube converter, but I knew it wouldn't work since itunes is like "You can't bring outside food in here". Still haven't figured anything out.


99p for some bleedin' sounds!
Itunes is so bad. Conned me out 11 quid. Spent on an album that never showed up. Had to dload again, turns out it was always there.... FUUUU apple. But I still love ya...
2011-06-08 22:59:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


I'd hire the guy on the left for I.T., but I.T. is the more menial, analytical aspect of using computers for work. If I wanted someone to do web design, which requires creativity, insight, dedication, and computer skills, and experience, I'd hire... the guy on the left.

You cannot judge a book by it's cover therefore you cannot judge a person by their looks That picture is of two normal people. Anyone can dress like the guy on the left, for example if you are going in for an interview or a big meeting. Saying that, anyone can dress like the guy on the right. Pure appearance DOES NOT determine whether you are smart or not. That picture is very stereotypical. Just because one guy is a tad bit older, wears glasses, and dresses nice DOES NOT mean that he is a geek. You can only hire a person based on their qualities.

As you said a post above, Stoictow, I see that you have said a FEW words about this issue. PC's are for business, or that's what we think. And Mac's are for entertainment, again what we think. But in real life you can have fun and get a job done on both. I know plenty of people who own a MacBook and use it for essays and other things. Both types of computers were made for the same purpose, US. The people who designed the computer wanted functionality, something new, and a reliable system. In my opinion both of the computer types have done so. They both use a different operating systems that appeal to different
people. In my opinion Apple is better than MICROSOFT. I like the layout, they have impressed me. Microsoft has made more
computers though. They have a wide selection of computers, plenty more than Apple does. But does that make a difference?
Not really. Just because one of the computers has one new feature and a slightly bigger screen does not make it BETTER and
more HIGH-TECH.

Apple has done the same as well. They are not doing anything drastic but they are just simply adding a new feature and
charging more. Whether it is worth the money or not I like Apple. I'm NOT saying that I absolutely hate Microsoft but that I am neutral with their products. They do offer features that Apple does not.
2011-06-08 23:20:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I love apple except for the itunes. No matter what I do I can't get 5 songs without spending buckets of cash. I am barely well off enough to own an ipod touch. When I got it I didn't even have enough money for songs. For months I had to walk about with only about 10 songs that I spent a bajillion quid on. I needed youtube converter, but I knew it wouldn't work since itunes is like "You can't bring outside food in here". Still haven't figured anything out.


99p for some bleedin' sounds!
Itunes is so bad. Conned me out 11 quid. Spent on an album that never showed up. Had to dload again, turns out it was always there.... FUUUU apple. But I still love ya...

What? You can bring any song into iTunes? If you think you can only use stuff from the iTunes store then you are... well you're quite wrong. And surely using a youtube converter is essentially pirating the stuff? In which case, I hear there is a bay of pirates where you will find your treasure much more effectivley... ahem.

But yeah, I spend a lot on iTunes, but that doesn't mean it's the only place to get music...
2011-06-08 23:45:00

Author:
Unknown User


You can always get free music if you own an Android phone. I own one and I have an app and I listen to full songs for free.2011-06-09 00:31:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Why do songs have to cost money? I know it is another persons work but you don't get charged a fee to play a LBP level.2011-06-09 01:34:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Why do songs have to cost money? I know it is another persons work but you don't get charged a fee to play a LBP level.

Copyright.

Otherwise there would be a problem with people taking things such as, music, art, etc and passing them off as their own for profit.

And as for your analogy, making an LBP level isn't going to earn millions of dollars now is it?
There's not that urgent of a need to protect it.
2011-06-09 01:53:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


Why do songs have to cost money? I know it is another persons work but you don't get charged a fee to play a LBP level.

Actually, the terms of use agreement state that anything you make in LBP is the property of Sony. That and you're playing LBP as a recreation, people produce music for a living.
2011-06-09 02:01:00

Author:
booXely
Posts: 654


In addition to what I like about PCs, there are some things I dislike about Macs. For one, Macs are too expensive for me to buy.
Fair point.


Macs may look "cooler" than PCs, but this has a negligible effect on performance.
That's really only true for the GPU, so unless you're looking for gaming machine that'll let you use the highest settings It's pretty insignificant imo.


PCs are typically used for actual computer-based work. Macs seem to me to be more like toys; hence, the iPad, on which you can't really do anything other than surf the net.
It may seem that way, but I can tell you that's not the case I think you're stereotyping a bit there.


Now, it seems to me that Macs, given their exorbitant prices, impaired functionality, and general lack usefulness, that PCs would always win.
Really? I'll give you higher prices but can you please share some examples of this 'impaired functionality' and 'general lack of usefulness' ?


However, there is another thing about Macs, perhaps the most obvious one, even more so than the price: the image. PCs are PCs; there is nothing special about them. Almost everyone uses them; they are the common person's computer. But a Mac is a Mac. Not everyone can get them, so they are a status symbol etc....
While there is some truth to that, I think you're exaggerating a little bit.


Which is honestly not worth buying. These aforementioned Mac users, being hip, intelligent, creative, and unique (they have Macs, after all. </sarcasm>) begin to think that they are better than non Mac users, as they feel that they are smarter and more deserving
Oh god, do you genuinely believe that, or are just repeating things you heard/read before?


In the end, in any functional, meaningful way, PCs are generally more useful computersthan Macs
See above...


You're whole post is full of gross generalizations, stereotypes and blatantly false claims.
2011-06-09 02:46:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


You're whole post is full of gross generalizations, stereotypes and blatantly false claims.

But you got to remember that those were all opinions. He may thinks those things but they may not be true. You really proved him wrong in that one.
2011-06-09 14:32:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Copyright.

Otherwise there would be a problem with people taking things such as, music, art, etc and passing them off as their own for profit.

And as for your analogy, making an LBP level isn't going to earn millions of dollars now is it?
There's not that urgent of a need to protect it.

I just wish everybody could be nicer. That would make things easier. Music artists already make tons of money from concerts.
2011-06-09 14:34:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


What? You can bring any song into iTunes? If you think you can only use stuff from the iTunes store then you are... well you're quite wrong. And surely using a youtube converter is essentially pirating the stuff? In which case, I hear there is a bay of pirates where you will find your treasure much more effectivley... ahem.

But yeah, I spend a lot on iTunes, but that doesn't mean it's the only place to get music...

What? I never used converter. I just said that. I said I coulda done with it since I can't afford barely any songs.
My itunes seems to have locked itself in. I can't do anything with it, but only buy from itunes.
2011-06-10 12:00:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


Weirdly, this came to my attention the other day. I'm not sure if anybody else is aware of this, but their new operating system that is available in July is being shipped at just ?20.99 WTF? (I'm not sure if they are meaning to update it from their older os or not, I'll post an article)

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/07/mac-os-x-lion-cost-2999/#ixzz1OaVvdlpB
2011-06-10 15:30:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


That's the price to upgrade (assuming that you have Leopard installed).

cheers,
misty
2011-06-10 15:36:00

Author:
Mother-Misty
Posts: 574


Yeah, Apples great... or is it Nokia? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia-patent-case) 2011-06-15 07:30:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


Hmm, this came out in the news today, just to strengthen my dislike toward Apple.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/Apple-iPhone-Recording-Live-Music-Could-Be-Banned-As-Tech-Giant-Applies-For-Patent/Article/201106316012925?lpos=Technology_Third_Home_Page_Ar ticle_Teaser_Region__4&lid=ARTICLE_16012925_Apple_iPhone%3A_Recording_Liv e_Music_Could_Be_Banned_As_Tech_Giant_Applies_For_ Patent

Are they actually having a laugh?

and also...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia-patent-case

Hmmmm....
2011-06-16 19:13:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Well, it is for legal reasons. If I were a musician I'd like it.2011-06-16 20:03:00

Author:
GameRoom
Posts: 200


Hmm, this came out in the news today, just to strengthen my dislike toward Apple.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Technology/Apple-iPhone-Recording-Live-Music-Could-Be-Banned-As-Tech-Giant-Applies-For-Patent/Article/201106316012925?lpos=Technology_Third_Home_Page_Ar ticle_Teaser_Region__4&lid=ARTICLE_16012925_Apple_iPhone%3A_Recording_Liv e_Music_Could_Be_Banned_As_Tech_Giant_Applies_For_ Patent


Are they actually having a laugh?

and also...


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jun/14/apple-nokia-patent-case


Hmmmm....



Wow that sad. Not being able to take a video of a concert. That's very very sad.

Oh BTW good going Nokia. I wish I owned that company!
2011-06-18 15:55:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


If Apple bought Microsoft what do you think would happen? Or vise versa?2011-06-21 16:06:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Apple couldn't afford Microsoft, and MS wouldn't buy Apple... Why bother?2011-06-21 23:52:00

Author:
Unknown User


Didn't Microsoft before their massive success nick something that was created by Apple in the first place? Like before they were an actual real business? I'm not sure if thats true or not but It's what Ive heard in the past.2011-06-22 00:04:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


Hmmmm.... Idk2011-06-24 15:04:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


Your opinions on the iPhone 5 or iPhone 4gs.... Whatever Apple calls their new phone.

Personally I think it will be a flop.
2011-09-25 14:37:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


I like a mac, but if i really need to do something (like play minecraft) i have to fire up my Windows pc I BUILT. My 2 year old macbook can not handle minecraft. sadly. I dont really like how Apple's mobile devices are mostly owned because they are 'cool'. And you are determined cool if you own one or not. I also dont like the locked down ways of iOS. Another complaint from me about iOS is it seems, there are more *trashy games than real applications that I would actually use. Angry Birds for example, yes it is popular, but how much do you really play it. I just got the free version and got bored of it after a little while.2011-09-25 14:51:00

Author:
StaticLinuxpro
Posts: 482


I also dont like the locked down ways of iOS.

Well if you truly want to bypass iOS you could jailbreak. I jailbroke my iPod touch and loved it even more.
2011-09-25 18:05:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


New iPhone? Personally I think it'll be a good device, but that's it, I can't see any revolutionary changes coming for it. However I also think it'll still be immensely popular, it seems a lot of people choose to buy iPhones purely because they're the iPhone, not necessarily because they fit their needs/wants.2011-09-25 23:40:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


I've always avoided apple products;
Not because they're bad - on the occasions where I've been forced to use them I found them to be more than adequate...

... it's just that, to me, it seems that anyone who starts buying Apple products becomes an immensely smug, arrogant, self-satisfied pain-in-the-bahookie. And they'll never release an app that's going to deal with that problem
2011-09-26 01:38:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


I've always avoided apple products;
Not because they're bad - on the occasions where I've been forced to use them I found them to be more than adequate...

... it's just that, to me, it seems that anyone who starts buying Apple products becomes an immensely smug, arrogant, self-satisfied pain-in-the-bahookie. And they'll never release an app that's going to deal with that problem

Ha, nice. Thats my reason against Apple also. I just dont like the way *most of the people that own an iPad, iPhone, or iPod act. It seems like more of a bragging toy.
2011-09-26 01:46:00

Author:
StaticLinuxpro
Posts: 482


Exactly they have a terrible effect on the emotions people have toward each other when they begin to brag about their iDevices.2011-09-26 22:12:00

Author:
Klak_334
Posts: 59


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