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A government controlled by one person, or a small group of people. In this form of government the power rests entirely on the person or group of people, and can be obtained by force or by inheritance. The dictator(s) may also take away much of its peoples' freedom.

In my previous thread there were a lot of angry supporters of LBDS crying and throwing dirt my way. This has even been recognised by one of LBDS? self proclaimed judges. Yet he did not choose to silence those who displayed this inferior behaviour. Instead he complimented them for their loyalty towards LBDS and then silenced me by closing my thread even though I had not insulted one single person. You can check this for yourself by going to that thread.
https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=57666-Censorship-by-Morgana-and-Comphermc
The given reason for closing my thread was some hilarious, uncomprehensable nonsense unless you think the ?judge?s? personal needs are a valid excuse.

Anyone who knows a little about dictatorships knows that this form of group behaviour is examplary for dictatorships.
However, I wont use this as proof for the dictating input from LBPD into LBP. I don't need to because there have been even more convincing examples.

Confused Cartman admitted he doesn?t mind a little censorship every once in a while. Even though it was so agressively defended by the celebs and lesser folk of LBPD that this site does not have a dictatorship mentality. My previous thread was meant to discuss this censorship of this site. This got all the supporters of LBDS boiling with anger: they shouted, cursed and cried. They tried every distasteful tactic they could think of to make the truth go away.
Now your mod has proven you wrong. He admitted he will censor and forbid topics that are inconvenient to him or LBDS.

But now the actions of this website have gone beyond censoreship. In the ?verdict? he wrote right before closing the thread he dictated which personal rules of his I have to obey or else he would take from me the opportunity to advertise my levels here, which would bring my levels in a disadvantaged position in comparison with the people who obey the clique.
To make this post easier to understand for some people I will repeat the rules he dictated and of which he tries to force me to obey them:

Since you don't seem to be able to provide any of the examples I asked for, this thread is now locked. In other words: If you do not provide him with the information he asks for within his unknown time frame he closes your thread.

If another thread is posted without detailed, well-reasoned examples that support the complaints you're making, we will shut down this topic altogether and ban any further discussion (in other words, we'll actually censor it. However his imagination about what detailed, well reasoned examples should look like is completely questionable since there has been no shortage of detailed well-reasoned examples in the opening post of my or Creekey?s locked threads.

These are his terms for discussion you people choose to live under. I do not and therefore I did not change my message according to his terms. I know perfectly well myself what I want to say and how to start a discussion in a civilised manner.

But apparently following the universal standards for conducting a civilized discussion is not good enough for the moderaters here because they need extra rules that they can make up whenever it suits them, to protect their website, their jobs, their resume, their personal intrests, their greedy selfish needs, that they get through leaching from LBP.

I do not like your dictatorship-influences in LBP. You are leaching your power from the game. Power that people gave to the game by paying for it. I?m sure I?m not the only one who thinks so. I've spoken to dosens of people who left this site because they are disgusted with the dictatorship mentality of the clique. There have been so many posts on the internet about how much people hate you that I can?t believe you still refuse to come to terms with your dictatorial, rude and unfriendly behaviour. Some googling for a minute would enlighten you: http://www.littlebignetwork.com/entry.php/1119-My-opinion-on-LBPCentral

In my previous thread two people had extreme difficulty with understanding what I had written for the persons who complained about the number of threads so I will repeat it and make it extra easy to understand for them: I am not the person who keeps closing threads.

We told you that locking our threads would only prove what we are saying. Think about how true that turned out to be. It's like WOW, that?s so mesmerizingly true! I need to sit down for a little while now!!		2011-06-05 21:25:00

Author:
Unknown User

Oh, great, another one of these.

K, can we jsut ban this guy and not have to deal with whatever he's on?

No? Well, he IS funny to read... Was funny... now he's just sad. :/		2011-06-05 21:38:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

Yay, it's thread #5. It was only a matter of time.

*Grabs popcorn*		2011-06-05 21:38:00

Author:
Silver39
Posts: 1703

I would like to add that while Caskstrength did not provide answers for your questions within the secret time limit you set unbeknownst to him, you also didn't answer my questions in the same thread. Then you locked it after less than a day because apparently the fact that Caskstrength might have been working or doing something rather than waiting on the forums to answer you, was breaking the rules.

Therefore, I can conclude that you also broke the rules by not answering my questions.

Appears to be a double standard.

But it might be easier if you admit that you didn't want to give Caskstrength a fair chance at responding.

I'd like to say one more thing before you bend the rules yet again to suit yourself and ban me, pay special attention to the comments left in the link that Caskstrength provided above at LittleBigLand. Those comments are very telling regarding the low opinion a lot of others hold LBPC in due to the rudeness illustrated here (thanks Rocksauron and Silver39) and in many of my recent threads.		2011-06-05 21:42:00

Author:
Creekey
Posts: 116

CaskStrength (and Creekey), if you think it's so bad here, then why don't you just leave? Rather than complaining about the way the site is run, just go join another forum. At this point no-one cares about your asinine opinions aside from you. Stop begging for attention and just leave. Also, GROW UP.

By the way, people wouldn't ridicule you if you acted like a reasonable, somewhat intelligent person rather than a brazen, obstinate moron.		2011-06-05 21:44:00

Author:
bonner123
Posts: 1487

Listen, if you hate the way this site runs, why do you keep bothering us? There's nothing chaining you into this site. In fact, you are free to leave and come back as you wish. That's not what happens in a dictatorship. In a dictatorship it's "love it or die". You might love this site and leave it or hate it and keep acessing it (like you are doing).

Every type of government needs punishment. If you commit a crime, you get punished, you can't change that. In most countries, you'll go to prison, in others there's death sentence, etc.

Things are different in online forums, but the core is the same. There needs to be punishment. In the first thread, when you started with the hatred towards LBPC, well, that kinda offended the users. If I left a message in your profile saying "You suck", wouldn't you get offended as well? Some of the members tried to be kind, but you must keep in mind that there are children and teenagers in this site, and some can't handle offense maturely. Thing is, you ignored the pacifying attempts and kept shoving your rage around, leading to the closure of the thread. Crime -> punishment, remember?

While the attitude of many wasn't right, you must remind that you incited their rage first. Like stepping on an ant nest. If you don't like the way things are ran around here, feel free to move to another site that you judge more "liberal". That way we can keep our dictature stuff in peace. 		2011-06-05 21:47:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891

Look, no one would be happier to have LBPC changed for the better then me. But you have ignored facts, shouted at everyone, grossly twisted everything everyone else ever said about you, and insulted... everyone. Despite everyone being nice to you. Relatively speaking, since most forums would just have banned a couple of trolls like you a while back.

You want LBPC to change? Hey, I admit we're not perfect. If you were to have, say, come in objectively, speaking about the negatives in a nonbiased, polite manner, you would have had a much different experience. Instead you threw a bunch of insults and twisted people who were trying to help you in a negative light for no reason. And yet we've been patient, most of us politely answering your questions. Maybe not me, bui eh.

The problem is you've wasted that opportunity to change LBPC in a constructive way. Quite Frankly, I don't even know what you WANT anymore. If you were to change your tone now, it may still be easy for everyone to forgive you. You may be able to join us even after all these random threads. That's just the kinda people we are.

Onkly one rule at LBPC: Don't be a jerk. And I'm fairly certain we can forgive you for bad first impressions. So, if you wanna change your tune, you can. You may be able to see we're nowhere near as bad as you've somehow thought. But that's up to you. You can change your tone to a more polite manner and be constructive, or keep rambling about tinfoil hat conspiracies. Or just leave. Though if you do the second choice you'd probably "leave" anyway.

So yeah. sure you don't want a second chance? :/		2011-06-05 21:53:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I'd just like to point out that LBPCentral isn't a government of any kind. It's an internet forum. Those who go out of their way to set up an internet forum can run it however they wish. They don't have solid rules written in stone or bound by law or anything like that. "Bending the rules" is perfectly acceptable.

However, if you feel that LBPC is a dictatorship, by all means you have the option to find another community to join. No one's chaining you down and forcing you to stay on this site. There really isn't any need for a "revolution".

Those who have been staying here for a while like how things are. If you don't, well, that's just personal preference.		2011-06-05 21:56:00

Author:
Frinklebumper
Posts: 941

holy crap i get mentioned in that thread on that other site!

edit: heh, just noticed its someone in my friends list... white usrenames are hard to see.		2011-06-05 22:00:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730

Yes, CC is a totalitarian dictator and all the MOD's are his secret police that do all his bidding.
God, whenever something isn't run exactly the way they want it people label it to be evil and wrong.

Calm down,
As advised, if you don't like it, leave.		2011-06-05 22:22:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176

wonders how many plays may have been garnered had all this energy been devoted to promotion...2011-06-05 22:57:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730

Cask and Creekey, we've said this one million fraktillion times, but srsly, for the love of Comph, WILL YOU GUYS JUST GO AWAY TO SOME OTHER FORUM!?

Seriously, just go to another place. LBPC is NOT THE ONLY FRAKTILLIONTH forum on LBP, and do you not see we're not even taking you seriously anymore?


You guys would make a great couple if you weren't so annoying.


Mods can we just get this over with and get out teh ban hammer...?		2011-06-06 02:14:00

Author:
Fang
Posts: 578

I don't understand all the dang garsh complaining. To what purpose is the argument? If this place is so terrible and is too dictatorial for you, leave. Have a nice a day. Like Fang said, there are plenty of other forums that may better suit your needs and style. Good day sir.2011-06-06 02:43:00

Author:
biorogue
Posts: 8424

Yay, it's thread #5. It was only a matter of time.

*Grabs popcorn*

you were thinking the same thing i was! 8'D
internet Popcorn for everyone, It's all on me <3

@ the topic starters.
But yeah. LBPC is just fine. no different them most big forums online.
and the Mods here are pretty nice to boot. most mods on other forums would Ban you just for looking at them funny.

Who cares that your guy's topics got deleted? things happen, that's life. just let it go. no one cares.
all i'm seeing from you guys is that you want the freedom to troll. sorry no, you don't have that right.
now go away and never return. the both of you. least until you both start acting mature
and see that just trying to make everyone happy and not start drama is what is most impotent.
just being able to enjoy are hobbies without drama is what is needed.
it get's really old fast how there are always on every forum online people who want to make a big deal
out of nothing that matters, every time, everyday... *mew

PS: I know anything I said is pointless, as them two won't listen, just like they have not to everyone else.
but you know, minds well say whats on one's mind anyways

PPS: normally I don't chat in these kind o drama topics. as it's all to silly
for me to care. but sometimes it does just rub me the wrong way when i read them.
have to blame my self for that tho, i get bored and want something funny to read. 		2011-06-06 03:16:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

Is this still really a big issue for you? If you don't like us, just leave, we have no issue whatsoever with it. There are no rules that say you must stay, which also shows the site is not a dictatorship. It is a privately owned website, and the mods can run it any way they choose, even if it means censoring some content, but it is for the welfare and benefit of the majority of the community on this site.

We all have our own issues with the way the site is, even I do. But the good things about this site greatly outweigh the negative aspects of it, so I enjoy the site as it is. If you really dislike the site as much as you say you can (and we've stressed this heavily reasoning to you) simply leave and join a more liberal community.

Can we please end this here? Nothing good can come out of these talks, other than more frustration.		2011-06-06 03:42:00

Author:
booXely
Posts: 654

I swear that CaskStregnth and Creekey are the same people.....

*Grabs Popcorn*		2011-06-06 05:04:00

Author:
Random
Posts: 673

Ugh, man, if you don't like it here, go away.2011-06-06 07:50:00

Author:
TheLittleSoAndSo
Posts: 181

I really wanted some bacon and eggs for breakfast today but i wasnt able to have some...
mostly because i didnt fell like buying any bacon or eggs because i feel that leaving my house to do so is immoral.
my question for all of you who did eat bacon and eggs this morning:
why would you steal my breakfast? what kinda creep are you?		2011-06-06 18:53:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730

Look stop "Grabbing the popcorn" I dont agree with these people but its shameful how we sometimes speak to them, yes I think think they are being annoying, ignorant and a bit rude but I bet half of you didnt read the passage he had written before you wrote something like (Grabs Popcorn). Please even if your getting bored of them (and I am) still at least take time to read the passage and tell them what you think instead of just "Grabs Popcorn". Dont take it the wrong way but yeah. Anyway, why another thread CackStrenghth, this is a word of warning if you constantly hit LBPC with your stick of arrogance then you WILL get banned. Thats 5 threads now, just complaining about how the site is run and the people on the site. Please if you dont like the place go and dont cause a fuss, and Creeky likewise. Also, fine someone doesn't like us, now its fine to get what you want and we will agree, NO! Just because we arn't liked doesn't make us feel too bad we just get on with it. However they dont know what they are saying because we are friendly if we wernt CC wouldnt be happy and there would be a lot of banning.2011-06-06 19:14:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426

Look stop "Grabbing the popcorn" I dont agree with these people but its shameful how we sometimes speak to them, yes I think think they are being annoying, ignorant and a bit rude but I bet half of you didnt read the passage he had written before you wrote something like (Grabs Popcorn). Please even if your getting bored of them (and I am) still at least take time to read the passage and tell them what you think instead of just "Grabs Popcorn". Dont take it the wrong way but yeah. Anyway, why another thread CackStrenghth, this is a word of warning if you constantly hit LBPC with your stick of arrogance then you WILL get banned. Thats 5 threads now, just complaining about how the site is run and the people on the site. Please if you dont like the place go and dont cause a fuss, and Creeky likewise. Also, fine someone doesn't like us, now its fine to get what you want and we will agree, NO! Just because we arn't liked doesn't make us feel too bad we just get on with it. However they dont know what they are saying because we are friendly if we wernt CC wouldnt be happy and there would be a lot of banning.

I agree. All the popcorn comments make it sound as though people feel entertained watching CackStrength get ripped to shreds, which reflects badly on LBPC as a community. It's not Slaves vs Lions night at the colliseum y'know? It's just one bitter and deluded guy who doesn't know when to stop ranting his paranoid conspiracy theories at an unsympathetic public. It's actually quite sad when you consider that he's probably a talented creator who is damaging any credibility he could have earned, if he had only embraced the idea of promoting his work rather than making a pariah of himself. Sure, let the guy know he's not welcome here as long as he continues to disrespect LBPC and it's community, but don't treat the ridicule and animosity that he recieves in return as entertaiment.		2011-06-06 19:54:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

And all the hatred and immaturity in this thread could've been avoided with just a silence, lock, and warning.2011-06-07 05:53:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

And all the hatred and immaturity in this thread could've been avoided with just a silence, lock, and warning.

I respectfully disagree. This is the end result of a 5-thread vendetta against LBPC. That sort of moderation, while really the best course of action, is what the original poster is so upset about it. He regards that as censorship, and would only make more of a fuss about it. I think we all know what needs to be done, but the hesitation is because they fear this will prove him correct.

On the other hand, this thread had all since died due to inactivity. It had been 9 hours since the last post. Can we let it run its course now?		2011-06-07 06:06:00

Author:
comphermc
Posts: 5338

The best thing to do about these things is to ignore them now I reckon. He's made his point, and we've made ours - and there's no longer any point in debating it - all that can be said has been said - we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Let this be the last post - and let's hope this is the last thread too.

2011-06-07 19:40:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113

These are trolls were dealing with, we must remember that they feed off attention.2011-06-07 20:27:00

Author:
fireblitz95
Posts: 2018

Dictatorship and censorship do sound like terrible things but on the bright side it does mean we have two ships.2011-06-07 20:50:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Forums are not countries. We don't run the site based on some method of government. Yes, I guess technically we (site staff) have the last say-so when it comes to making decisions about the direction of the site, but I also believe strongly in considering the wants and needs of the community when we make decisions.

Look, we're a fansite - we exist purely as a service to fans of the LittleBigPlanet series. If we actually ignored what the community wanted, we wouldn't be the most well-known/popular/whatever LBP fansite.

That said, the community is not always right. If we left everything up to the community, in a sort of pure democracy, we'd be lacking a lot of things. Some decisions (such as which rules we enforce) are better made by a select few, who have the well-being of the entire community at heart but still have a grasp on the things a community of this size requires.

Anyone who's been a part of LBPCentral for any significant length of time knows that we keep our finger on the pulse of the community at every turn. We listen. That doesn't mean we're always going to take the route the community calls for, but we've never made a decision that didn't keep the community in mind in some way.

As to the censorship - you seem to be implying that our censorship has some sort of nefarious goal. Yes, we censor bad language. Yes, we censor inappropriate posts. Yes, we have the right to censor any post without warning. But we don't. I mean, unless your threads and posts are blatantly disappearing - but you and I both know that's not happening.

The other threads weren't locked because we found them "inconvenient" - they were locked because you and Creekey both are throwing around a lot of accusations without any actual proof. I asked for that proof and, instead of providing it, you both chose to continue arguing with and insulting the many others who were questioning your..."perspective".

Look, the fact of the matter is, LBPCentral owes everything to our community. We wouldn't be where we are without the countless number of people who have dedicated their time and energy to it. So, if you're going to start accusing us of things like dictatorial censorship, you better have proof. Without it, you're simply being offensive, to both myself and everyone else who's responsible for making LBPC what it is.

This thread, like the others, is locked. Any more threads on this topic - from either of you - will result in a permanent ban. How's that for censorship?		2011-06-08 01:32:00

Author:
ConfusedCartman
Posts: 3729


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