Archive: 33 posts

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okay guys, so here's an idea-- in your opinion what would you change about any of the alliance members? the design of their levels? their levels in general? their vioce? their part-taking in the story? their theme? their actual character designs? their... genders? ... i don't know, post a comment saying what YOU would change! My opinion: for starters: ~Avalon= original beta version avalon, evil and incharge fools! or atleast of the negativatron. I would have loved to see his "evil super suit" too XD ~Clive: keep them smexy beta glasses! ~Higganbotham: more goofy funny than gibberish insanity. :/ he's actually the character i had high expectations for, but let me down, i thought he was kinda going to be "willy wonka" kinda character, but he didn't turn out like i wanted D: ~Eve: more story about her! D: and a french accent. I don't know why, she looks more french to me than spanish. ~Victoria: original beta version design, she was a playing card, and it was awesome! (plus i think Mm should make a psn account to be able to maybe publish beta levels, other versions of the original levels, and maybe even some more backstory levels that you can acess by going to community menu and under Mm pics called something like "Mm accounts" or "other Mm levels" ) anywayzzz~ POST PEOPLE, POST!

2011-05-29 14:07:00 Author: iinov8 Posts: 131

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I kinda wish that Avalon had a higher-pitched voice. A nerdier-sounding one . . . And everyone needs a backstory! Any backstories we have now are exceedingly vague! (ie. Eve had two eyes, now she has one eye . . . there was some kind of school somewhere at some point in time.)

2011-05-29 18:58:00 Author: Number7Million Posts: 248

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I'd ADD MORE PRIZES. Although that isn't really changing, isn't it.

2011-05-30 01:37:00 Author: lemurboy12 Posts: 842

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I kinda wish that Avalon had a higher-pitched voice. A nerdier-sounding one . . . And everyone needs a backstory! Any backstories we have now are exceedingly vague! (ie. Eve had two eyes, now she has one eye . . . there was some kind of school somewhere at some point in time.) I know right? Maybe she had to get an operation, maybe a worm ate her eye, maybe a patient ate her eye... maybe Dr. Higganbotham... oh wait, i'll just stop there... XD

2011-05-30 19:37:00 Author: iinov8 Posts: 131

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Eve's eyes seemed to lack the quality of the other characters. The anti-alising is off and the coloration seemed dulled and blurred together. The character model needs to be fixed. The levels themselves were great up until I got to the Avalon stage. Then the levels started getting really "Grid" based and boring to play through. Eve's asylum was worse with this. Trees are not SQUARES. Regardless of the theme they were going for, it just looks bad. In the cosmos, I would have liked to see more space based themes. But instead, it was just a stage of random materials pasted together like they didn't know what to do next. It feels like the developers kinda dropped the ball towards the end of the game, running out of fresh ideas. The first 3 stages were fantastic with very cool ideas like using the grabinators to hold cupcakes and stuff.

2011-05-31 23:35:00 Author: Nick930930 Posts: 878

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^ If Higgenbotham had gotten his own theme until the last few levels, or maybe just the boss, the Cosmos would've been much better. But everything was the Negativitron, so it was kinda gunked up as a theme.

2011-06-03 20:50:00 Author: Number7Million Posts: 248

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In the cosmos, I would have liked to see more space based themes. But instead, it was just a stage of random materials pasted together like they didn't know what to do next. If you mean the scrap metal and junk-materials, they're supposed to be like that. It's supposed to be a huge build-up planet of what the negativitron has sucked up from LBP, and he has turned it into dismantled rubbish and things.

2011-06-04 12:24:00 Author: Denim360 Posts: 482

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Yeah I would have given Higgenbotham a proper theme.

2011-06-04 15:41:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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I wouldn't change Higginbotham at all. He was hilarious as all get out, like a Max Parrish painting come to life. (I would suspect there's probably an age divide on who thinks Higginbotham is amazing and who doesn't). I would have changed some of the genders, however, and some of the heteronormative gender stereotyping. I mean.. two very patriarchal characters (Larry as the Daddy figure, Avalon as the Golden Boy Hero albeit ineffectually so), and then we have Victoria (oh gee, a woman baking, there's a stretch), and Eve in a stereotypically female protective/nurturing role. Clive too was a stereotype, bumbling inventor, but it wasn't borderline offensive gender stereotyping. The fact that they changed the dialogue from Sackboy to Sackthing was good, and I really applaud Mm for doing that. But they failed, quite spectacularly, at putting in female characters who pass the Bechdel Test.

2011-06-06 03:26:00 Author: roux- Posts: 379

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Would have made it so Avalon was Evil like he at first was gonna be, and make it so the Negativatron was just one of his machines Set out to trick everyone to think it was the villain and make Avalon look like a hero… *mew Would have gave Eve a different accent and made her act more spooky. Wish the story mode was 1 story patch longer, like maybe so That way Higganbotham could have had his true own level patch So he’d not having to share it with the Negativatron. Also not sure it counts but. I’d change half the costumes story mode gave you. There was a lot of useless stuff no one could really truly use for costume making. Well that’s just some things off the top of my head anyways. *mew

2011-06-06 03:58:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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I too think Higganbotham deserved his own theme. I liked the idea of Avalon being evil. He could have got infected by the negativitron or something. I personally didn't like Eve at all. I think they should have made a leprechaun-like character in Eve's place.

2011-06-08 04:21:00 Author: ZeusInTraining Posts: 99

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i would have liked the cosmos to be more about higginbotham than the negativitron, it would be cool if we learnt more about him since we know about most of the others.

2011-06-09 18:16:00 Author: Skalio- Posts: 920

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i'd like a seaside theme, with the very old beach background

2011-06-11 13:36:00 Author: Alternative_sack Posts: 409

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I wouldn't change Higginbotham at all. He was hilarious as all get out, like a Max Parrish painting come to life. (I would suspect there's probably an age divide on who thinks Higginbotham is amazing and who doesn't). I would have changed some of the genders, however, and some of the heteronormative gender stereotyping. I mean.. two very patriarchal characters (Larry as the Daddy figure, Avalon as the Golden Boy Hero albeit ineffectually so), and then we have Victoria (oh gee, a woman baking, there's a stretch), and Eve in a stereotypically female protective/nurturing role. Clive too was a stereotype, bumbling inventor, but it wasn't borderline offensive gender stereotyping. The fact that they changed the dialogue from Sackboy to Sackthing was good, and I really applaud Mm for doing that. But they failed, quite spectacularly, at putting in female characters who pass the Bechdel Test. well, i'm not meaning i don't still love mr higganbotham with all his awesomeness, i just thought he'd be a lil more than his character presumed to be in the trailers (which was pretty epic if i do so say myself ) but ya, i also noticed the stereotypes in story mode. but oh well, i think they pulled off a pretty good story mode. I also agree that mr higganbotham should have had his own patch and group of levels, maybe that would have gave more character to him, who knows? also i think, they need some of those beta costumes put into action--and more contraption prizes, but thats a whole 'nother thread ;p te he

2011-06-11 14:21:00 Author: iinov8 Posts: 131

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Wait. Can I See pics of Original Victoria? She was a playing card?!

2011-06-12 02:20:00 Author: pilsburydoughboy55 Posts: 236

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I too think Higganbotham deserved his own theme. I liked the idea of Avalon being evil. He could have got infected by the negativitron or something. I personally didn't like Eve at all. I think they should have made a leprechaun-like character in Eve's place. I never trusted Avalon since the very first level. I thought that he would for a fact be evil by the end of the game. Kinda sad he wasn't.

2011-06-12 05:38:00 Author: Unknown User

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Wait. Can I See pics of Original Victoria? She was a playing card?! it's in one of the threads here, but i just can't remember the name. it was the thread that anounced that avalon was evil in the 1st place i think... or was it just a thread showing beta designs? D: my blasted memory fails me yet again, sorry.

2011-06-12 16:29:00 Author: iinov8 Posts: 131

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I would have more levels/worlds in between the mainstream worlds. And the ability to make your own curators instead of using big sackbots disguised as sackpeople.

2011-06-14 09:29:00 Author: Jakest123 Posts: 319

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I would have more levels/worlds in between the mainstream worlds. And the ability to make your own curators instead of using big sackbots disguised as sackpeople. you... almost literally read my mind. heck yea we need that ability!

2011-06-14 12:05:00 Author: iinov8 Posts: 131

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make your own curators instead of using big sackbots disguised as sackpeople. -Big costumed Sackbot -Add a material tweaker to not be grabbable -??? -Profit

2011-08-26 16:56:00 Author: HellFire2345 Posts: 55

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I wouldn't change anything in the main story. Instead, I'd like MM to make the original levels that got cut in a seperate DLC pack. Just to see what would have happened

2011-08-26 21:00:00 Author: Unknown User

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From what I've seen, a lot of the beta features were not carried over to the main game, which for me is good, as it keeps suspense. I totally agree with diesal's view, it doesn't need to be changed. The whole point of the story was to make you feel as if you were the creator, what would you do, and by this statement you could do a lot of things. I'll use Hazbell as an example. He has made the Pipe spoof of dreams, or whatever its name is, but the point is, that he made the levels based on if sackboy wasn't the hero in the story. The name as well is based on the term 'pipe dream' which for British people worldwide means a very far dream that we all may not meet. What Mm and hazbell have acheived are what Mm wants you all to set out and do. They want the future of LittleBigPlanet to be full of games, that can be played, and have a huge storyline, but it is up to you, how you want to tell that story.

2011-08-27 10:45:00 Author: Unknown User

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I would have changed Avalon's pesonality. He's just too arrogant, i would've made him, like, a charity addict or something o.o

2011-10-10 02:31:00 Author: Unknown User

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Clive needs a hat, Davinci needs a pencil that's always on his back, Victoria needs less doll-ness, Avalon needs more evil laugh. (lol) Eve needs a birdcage on her head, Dr Higganbotham needs a monocle, and the Negativatron needs a cooler boss fight. Like running inside of him to disable him. And most of all, ALL of them need more backstory.

2012-05-19 03:26:00 Author: Xtrahuman Posts: 431

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There's not much I'd change, although I do agree that Avalon should have stayed evil. Actually, that's a big change. Whoops. :blush: Anyway, I'd like Clive to be slightly less notepad-based. Although I love his character, I think that the notepad thing is just a little weird. No offence, Clive. By the way, on an unrelated note, I'd like to recommend an LBP2 fanfic on fanfiction.com. It's called Worth Fighting For and it's pretty good. Let me know what you think. EDIT: And backstory!! They all need more BACKSTORY!

2012-06-04 21:11:00 Author: Protoraptor Posts: 960

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i would turn higgombotham into a rotten eaten apple with a worm sticking out. representing that a teacher ate him. i would also give him a more logical opinion and voice. higher pitched voice. and instead of blabering on at the end of the game. saying something about a flower turning into a butterfly then a baby or something. ill make him speak like spock from startrek for the entire credits. I would turn da vinci into a cigar with a stoned guys voice. i would turn avalon into a computer monitor that constantly looks up porn. i would turn the nurse (I forget her name) into a large broken ------ You know what im not even gonna say it. with a voice like Pee wee herman. i would turn Victoria into a Cake with a fat black sassy nanny voice. i would turn clive into a fist that hates everyone and constantly feels despair. and thats all i have to say.

2012-09-19 03:13:00 Author: TinyMoMo Posts: 132

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What about for costumes - Victoria head, Victoria torso, etc. That'd be awesome. Instead of costume pieces like "test tube flask head 3". Nobody uses that. I totally agree that Avalon should've been evil. The curators really needed personalities that actually affected the story, rather than making extra unnecessary dialogue. Avalon betraying them would've been perfect. Like that part where Avalon got captured, that would've been the perfect point. Maybe he wanted to be captured. And again, I think the character's personalities never affected the story. Avalon is an egotistic jerk, but he could easily be replaced with a Clive clone and the story could've functioned perfectly. That shouldn't happen. You can't replace Dumbledore's personality (generic wise old guy) with, say, Hermione's, and get away with it. In a way the story mode was doomed from the start, because sackthing can't have a personality because that constricts the player. The level designers need to have some freedom, and so on. The first world has to be a big tutorial and the story mode has to basically teach you to use the powerups. It's hard to fit a story around that. You have multiple completely different worlds, and there's really no stable transition between them.

2012-09-22 22:03:00 Author: Unknown User

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I would literally change the whole thing. Different story, different characters, etc.

2012-09-23 17:24:00 Author: amoney1999 Posts: 1202

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What about for costumes - Victoria head, Victoria torso, etc. That'd be awesome. Instead of costume pieces like "test tube flask head 3". Nobody uses that. I totally agree that Avalon should've been evil. The curators really needed personalities that actually affected the story, rather than making extra unnecessary dialogue. Avalon betraying them would've been perfect. Like that part where Avalon got captured, that would've been the perfect point. Maybe he wanted to be captured. And again, I think the character's personalities never affected the story. Avalon is an egotistic jerk, but he could easily be replaced with a Clive clone and the story could've functioned perfectly. That shouldn't happen. You can't replace Dumbledore's personality (generic wise old guy) with, say, Hermione's, and get away with it. In a way the story mode was doomed from the start, because sackthing can't have a personality because that constricts the player. The level designers need to have some freedom, and so on. The first world has to be a big tutorial and the story mode has to basically teach you to use the powerups. It's hard to fit a story around that. You have multiple completely different worlds, and there's really no stable transition between them. I'm going to agree with all of this. Everything in that post is gold.

2012-09-24 22:15:00 Author: Number7Million Posts: 248

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Well, I definitely would have changed it so that there would be less of the technology crud, and replace it with RC Cars, lego-like things, or K-Nex. Maybe some of those old-timey robots? Too keep it in the range of the arts-'n'-crafts feel that LBP1 had. Maybe change Eve's level designs a bit but that's all I could really do and Eve is already perfect to me abububuu <3

2012-09-25 05:32:00 Author: CirkuzFr3ek Posts: 194

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Higginbotham doesn't sound old enough, or crazy enough. And not once did I see him consume an article of footwear.

2012-09-26 13:21:00 Author: Ironface Posts: 432

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Davinci and Victoria should have gotten married. And Avalon and Sean Brawn need to team up.

2012-09-30 00:15:00 Author: DominationMags Posts: 1840

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And Avalon and Sean Brawn need to team up. Oh, God, poor Clive. :-)

2012-11-25 12:51:00 Author: Protoraptor Posts: 960

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