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Music Help?

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I have been trying to make a good Space type music for my level. I've tried using every instrument on the sequencer and spent a lot of time with the "Space Piano".

I still can not make a nice sounding song or beat. Does anyone have music Sequencer tips to help me make something good?
2011-05-17 00:40:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


This is going to sound really rude, but I promise you it isn't: there aren't any sequencer tips that can make you a good musician. So if that is the problem, there is nothing we can do.

If, however, the problem is solely that you don't understand how to use the sequencer, if you would be more specific about the actual technical problems you are having we could help.
2011-05-17 00:55:00

Author:
roux-
Posts: 379


Try and stay in the same key, also if you're looking for different sound, alter the notes with the right-stick left or right to change.2011-05-17 01:02:00

Author:
nunsmasher
Posts: 247


Try and stay in the same key, also if you're looking for different sound, alter the notes with the right-stick left or right to change.

I doubt staying in key is his problem.

I guess here's my Top Ten Tips for the Beginner Composer (aka you):



You're no Beethoven (yet.) So don't try to be.
Try listening to some of your favorite songs. Pick an instrument or voice. Listen closely to it throughout the song. What did they do with that instrument? Was it in the background or foreground of the music? Did it have a solo? When did it change or alter it's voice? What did the artist do to make it different as the song progressed? Can you add something like that to your song? Now do this with a wider variety of music, even music you don't like. Train your ears to appreciate the composition of the song, without having a preference to the song itself.
Start with a simple drum beat or a bass line. It's the foundation of (most) modern music. Is your song slow? Fast? Map out in your head where you want it to go and go there.
Pick your favorite synth and start in the Key of C. If you don't know what this is, just stick to the white keys of the keyboard.
Add some long notes or chords (groups of notes that form a harmony.) If it doesn't work, try moving your note around till it sounds right. There will be a lot of "nails on the chalkboard" moments when you try this. But when it works, you'll hear it.
Build from there. Add in some counter-melodies, an off-beat accompanying rhythm, or make that simple drum beat or bass line a bit more complex.
Keep going, copy and paste, and improvise.
Don't give up. Don't get discouraged.
Be happy with mediocrity (or worse.) Even if your song doesn't sound great and is about 30 seconds long, you've learned something along the way. See also tip #1.
Repeat.
2011-05-17 01:45:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


This is going to sound really rude, but I promise you it isn't: there aren't any sequencer tips that can make you a good musician. So if that is the problem, there is nothing we can do.

If, however, the problem is solely that you don't understand how to use the sequencer, if you would be more specific about the actual technical problems you are having we could help.

I agree totally. I am a musician and I do very well with the music sequencer. There are no tips. I always tell people if they want to be great at the music sequencer you should go and take music lessons. Even then you ma still have trouble. You have to have music in your blood to really write the good stuff. Sure you can learn basics and produce some nice songs but it's all about knowing scales and notes and also having a good ear.

There is always the easy option to copy notes from midi files converted to piano rolls but even then that can be complicated.
2011-05-17 04:02:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


The blocky graphed instrument (with the wide pattern, not the condensed one), which sounds a bit like an 8-bit note, has a nice space sound to it when with a lot of echo. Can work in chords, but sounds good enough standalone as well.2011-05-17 14:28:00

Author:
Antikris
Posts: 1340


The blocky graphed instrument (with the wide pattern, not the condensed one), which sounds a bit like an 8-bit note, has a nice space sound to it when with a lot of echo. Can work in chords, but sounds good enough standalone as well.

That's the square wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_wave). The condensed one is the pulse wave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_wave).
2011-05-17 14:43:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Keeping it simple is key. (At first anyway.)

Don't try to get too complex and add tonnes and tonnes of stuff all at once. Like Schm0 said, you're no Beethoven (yet.)

Making a good sounding song is like making a house, build the foundations then add all the fine details. Basically, start out with something simple and keep adding to it until you're happy. Remember not to go too crazy though! Sometimes less is more!

If you like the song you've made though, maybe deconstruct it a bit and re-make it.

Have you shown this song to anyone else? Keep in mind you're usually you're own worst critic, I know I am!

Good luck!
2011-05-17 15:06:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


Making a good sounding song is like making a house, build the foundations then add all the fine details. Basically, start out with something simple and keep adding to it until you're happy. Remember not to go too crazy though! Sometimes less is more!


Precisely. I have a good example of this, actually, in my song entitled "Mummy's Lullaby." I had the idea for the melody and countermelody in my head beforehand and put it down in the sequencer. I then built chords and harmony into the composition, added some drums, strings, and an additional counter-melody, then let the song build up from there. It's not really complex in the grand scheme of things, and it builds slowly and then tapers off gently.

I was happy with the way it turned out. And that's really the most important thing. Make music for yourself, not for others.
2011-05-17 15:35:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Precisely. I have a good example of this, actually, in my song entitled "Mummy's Lullaby." I had the idea for the melody and countermelody in my head beforehand and put it down in the sequencer. I then built chords and harmony into the composition, added some drums, strings, and an additional counter-melody, then let the song build up from there. It's not really complex in the grand scheme of things, and it builds slowly and then tapers off gently.


Yep, that's pretty much how I get things done too.

I think people sometimes confuse technical difficulty with what actually sounds good, then proceed to confuse themselves in a mass of notes until it just sounds like noise.

Need some inspiration? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBFXJw7n-fU)

Or, for something more space themed? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iOMmsyz6KE) I dunno, I think it's kinda "spacey!"



I was happy with the way it turned out. And that's really the most important thing. Make music for yourself, not for others.

Unless they ask really nicely!

In fact, the first song I linked up there, I also made a for one of my friends to use in a level. That's here (http://lbp.me/v/y51gpf) if you want to hear it...Ok, Shameless self promotion time is over!
2011-05-17 17:57:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


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