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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2634/5710538273_a94023cfdb.jpg

Yeah.

So some info about the game was leaked on Kotaku today, nothing serious, only THE ENTIRE CAMPAIGN PLOTLINE. No suprise though, we all knew it was coming. You guys can check out said info right here (http://kotaku.com/5801345/where-youll-go-how-youll-kill-and-who-will-die-in-modern-warfare-3).

Also some multiplayer info here (http://kotaku.com/5801353/modern-warfare-3-multiplayer-features-battles-in-brooklyn-clash-in-mogadishu/gallery/1).

Oh, and some non-spoiler info for you guys.

- Spec-ops is coming back
- New things are going to be in the game
- Old things are returning
- Releasing November 8th in North America

Reveal Trailer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiTJbr9m04

E3 2011 Gameplay demo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNjCv9OIF-M

Spec Ops Survival Mode Trailer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL943_23vVs&feature=feedu

CoD XP Multiplayer Reveal trailer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0de1PqK7I

CoD Elite Connect Trailer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI94Pyfq0Zs

'Redemption' Single player trailer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vawYfrAacrI&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbNr-8YaEN0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16enYfWRq7c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19UtjsZMAmw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJWJK59FXw8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCBgGpnRTy4
2011-05-13 23:34:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


Just quick-read the story part.
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp3jukzHo1qb9a2wo1_500.png
Either I read it too fast, or it seems that it won't advance much from where the last game ended. Instead, it will create a new conflict based on the last ending and solve it throught the game.
2011-05-13 23:43:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I heard that:
Soap and some other dude dies.
2011-05-13 23:51:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Sounds cool. Hopefully they can get away from some of Black Ops' ideas and go back to their own that made MW2 a great game. Can't wait for this and Battlefield 3.2011-05-14 00:08:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


Sounds cool. Hopefully they can get away from some of Black Ops' ideas and go back to their own that made MW2 a great game. Can't wait for this and Battlefield 3.

Yeah, I personally prefered the getting kills and headshots system as opposed to the cod points thing, it keeps people trying to get headshots for a while and keeps them occupied, it sure did for me. As long as they bring that and my precious M9 back then i'll be fine with MW3.
2011-05-14 00:11:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


Don't worry guise, it's not like I made it my goal to spoil this game for as many people as possible.2011-05-14 00:24:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702


If this is gonna be the same situation that happened to MW2, then I'm abandoning ship.

Besides, I heard Battlefield 3's gonna come out around the same time...
2011-05-14 00:31:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


Yeah, I personally prefered the getting kills and headshots system as opposed to the cod points thing, it keeps people trying to get headshots for a while and keeps them occupied, it sure did for me. As long as they bring that and my precious M9 back then i'll be fine with MW3.

Yeah I think that system worked best because at least it kept me striving for something when the game itself got boring. If they combined them by making it so you have to unlock the attachments by say getting a certain amount of kills first or have the option of paying a high price such as $50,000 CoD points to get it early, that could work nicely as well and would make Extended Mags a reasonable option. Either way I'm happy to hear it's not the "Ghost's story" rumor anymore as that sounded bland.


Don't worry guise, it's not like I made it my goal to spoil this game for as many people as possible.

You're so cool.


If this is gonna be the same situation that happened to MW2, then I'm abandoning ship.

Besides, I heard Battlefield 3's gonna come out around the same time...

What situation? The whole game-ruining glitch thing was bad, but the PSN was hacked on the game and it was a year after it was out. Yes it was terrible but at least it wasn't like that at the start. As for BF3, I guess MW3 will have to sway me a little more since BF3's graphics engine and everything looks simply stunning. I still like the solo CoD style better, however.
2011-05-14 00:51:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


Sounds cool. Hopefully they can get away from some of Black Ops' ideas and go back to their own that made MW2 a great game. Can't wait for this and Battlefield 3.

MW2 > original ideas > lol.

It's just gonna be another crappy cash-in, there will be nothing good. BF3 will destroy it. It also comes out a few days before Skyrim, therefore they fail.
2011-05-14 10:32:00

Author:
Unknown User


I didn't care much at all about MW2's story and I'm buying 3 for the multiplayer.2011-05-14 10:44:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


Sounds cool. Hopefully they can get away from some of Black Ops' ideas and go back to their own that made MW2 a great game. Can't wait for this and Battlefield 3.


Sounds cool. Hopefully they can get away from some of Black Ops' ideas and go back to their own that made MW2 a great game. Can't wait for this and Battlefield 3.

You so didn't copy that, adpost
2011-05-14 11:18:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


If they do this right it will be really, really good (Multiplayer I mean.) They know the problems MW2 had, the only issue is wether they can be bothered fixing them.

As for the campaign story, things go boom in slow motion, right? Whoopee....Oh, and here's a wild guess, Ghost comes back.
2011-05-14 11:21:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


If they do this right it will be really, really good (Multiplayer I mean.) They know the problems MW2 had, the only issue is wether they can be bothered fixing them.

As for the campaign story, things go boom in slow motion, right? Whoopee....Oh, and here's a wild guess, Ghost comes back.

You can't fix the community.
2011-05-14 12:42:00

Author:
Unknown User


I've lost all interest in CoD. And BF3 comes out around same time so.... 2011-05-14 12:55:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


You so didn't copy that, adpost

Im starting to think he is a bot
2011-05-14 13:10:00

Author:
Jovuto
Posts: 2345


If it still has the ACR, WA200, and the MP5K, I'll consider it. Anything is better than Black op's Cruddy gun selection.
I also read the storyline post. Nothing here but stalling so they can make the game long enough to make it worth a retail price.
The spec-ops mode sounds pretty good though. Looks like theyre going towards a horde-style game mode.
2011-05-14 18:11:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


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To be honest, though, I'm done with CoD. I liked them in the beginning, but they started to suck more and more with each release. Black Ops was probably the best multiplayer based one, with its plot tying in with Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. In short, they should have left Modern Warfare alone and never give it a sequel.
2011-05-14 19:54:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


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To be honest, though, I'm done with CoD. I liked them in the beginning, but they started to suck more and more with each release. Black Ops was probably the best multiplayer based one, with its plot tying in with Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. In short, they should have left Modern Warfare alone and never give it a sequel.

Honestly, I'd have to disagree. I only play video games for the online aspects (which sucks with PSN being down and all) and even though I play single-player portions a little bit, multiplayer remains the draw for me. I think many can agree with me that Modern Warfare was the one that set the stage for the rest to come. Although the rest copied the same multiplayer ideas, they built on them as well. I think that WaW tried to change this too early and thus didn't work out too well. MW2, however, I think was one of the better games since it could get you hooked and gave the player a sense of achievement (at least for me, being a fan of MP games). I think Black Ops lost this sense of achievement the CoD series used to give the player with the whole CoD points system. While this was a good idea and I think should be implemented again in the future, it was poorly designed and removed any desire for me to play the game as much as MW2. I hope MW3 can provide that same amount of excitement from MW2 again as Black Ops failed to do so for me.
2011-05-14 21:13:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


yeah i hope mw3 has the same addictiveness as mw2 did i didnt fill black ops had it , i could play a few games and get bored but mw2 i can play for hours at a time2011-05-14 23:35:00

Author:
howMUCHforBOUNTY
Posts: 623


Honestly, I'd have to disagree. I only play video games for the online aspects (which sucks with PSN being down and all) and even though I play single-player portions a little bit, multiplayer remains the draw for me. I think many can agree with me that Modern Warfare was the one that set the stage for the rest to come. Although the rest copied the same multiplayer ideas, they built on them as well. I think that WaW tried to change this too early and thus didn't work out too well. MW2, however, I think was one of the better games since it could get you hooked and gave the player a sense of achievement (at least for me, being a fan of MP games). I think Black Ops lost this sense of achievement the CoD series used to give the player with the whole CoD points system. While this was a good idea and I think should be implemented again in the future, it was poorly designed and removed any desire for me to play the game as much as MW2. I hope MW3 can provide that same amount of excitement from MW2 again as Black Ops failed to do so for me.

CoD2 and CoD4 were the only good ones. Even CoD4 had the stupid perks and cheap weapsons, and now almost everything in the game is stupid and/or cheap.

Battlefield will overtake CoD, and even if it doesn't the multiplayer will be so much better that only the 12 year old CoD whores will still play CoD instead of it. Which is a good thing, because no one likes those people.
2011-05-15 11:15:00

Author:
Unknown User


CoD2 and CoD4 were the only good ones. Even CoD4 had the stupid perks and cheap weapsons, and now almost everything in the game is stupid and/or cheap.

Battlefield will overtake CoD, and even if it doesn't the multiplayer will be so much better that only the 12 year old CoD whores will still play CoD instead of it. Which is a good thing, because no one likes those people.

I respect your opinion and I can't say much about CoD2 since I never had it. However, I agree with you that CoD 4 was good, but I'd still have to say MW2 was just as good if not better, but maybe that's because I never played online alone, only in a party with a group of friends. It truly is a different experience when you're with a group rather than by yourself, and I'm not saying you were or not, but that could be the case. I guess that MW2 just had more things to do while you were still online, just not necessarily playing competitively for progress (i.e Quickscoping, Tag, etc.) Either way I agree with you that Battlefield is a strong competitor and may overtake CoD eventually, but I think we'll find out for sure once both games are released and where both of the series go from thereafter. You can't say that Battlefield won't have all of those little 12 year olds whining either since they'll only go where their friends go and if Battlefield truly becomes better, they'll just flood into that.
2011-05-15 19:37:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


Check out this email I got today. I'm reserving mine tomorrow.

you're a PowerUp Rewards member, we're giving you a tactical advantage. The rest of the world won't find out until Friday, May 20, but you can now pre-order
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 and get a GameStop exclusive, two-sided poster packed with valuable game info.

Take advantage of this head start because the posters won't last long! Visit your local store, flash your PowerUp Rewards card, and pre-order Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 at GameStop today!


Poster available in stores only. Quantities limited. While supplies last.
2011-05-17 01:35:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I don't know how accurate this video is but the uploader states these are currently the only weapons leaked and it makes sense.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTYQ0v4MbLY&feature=channel_video_title
2011-05-19 22:57:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I don't know, I was a massive fan of the Call of Duty series since COD1 and UO. untill MW2, to me WAW and COD4 were the last good games, COD4 for it's addictive multiplayer and WAW for it's atmosphere and moodiness. But MW2 and Black Ops just look like Infinite Ward are recycling ideas now. I guess they lost all drive for originality after WAW.

In my opinion:
MW2 = COD4 with more annoying hollywood plotlines
Black Ops = COD4 with a Cold War setting
2011-05-21 09:21:00

Author:
The Gentleman
Posts: 360


But MW2 and Black Ops just look like Infinite Ward are recycling ideas now.

Call of Duty is not developed by Infinity Ward only. Treyarch, the other.

MW2 was created by Infinity Ward and Black Ops was created by Treyarch. They pretty much switch off ever year.

COD4 : IW
WaW : Treyarch
MW2 : IW
BO : Treyarch
2011-05-21 09:33:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


UPDATE:

Reveal Trailer is out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h_ORMkyKT0&feature=feedu
2011-05-24 03:19:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


UPDATE:

Reveal Trailer is out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h_ORMkyKT0&feature=feedu
lol? They said some days ago that they will use a new engine, and they come with this?!
And the destruction looks horrible. when the train crashes in some pillars, the pillars just disappear and some smoke pop up.

I'll stick with Battlefield 3.
2011-05-24 06:29:00

Author:
Jonaolst
Posts: 935


Also, I'd like to ask, why is it the first thing we see in Paris is a US army patch?

Otherwise, I'm hoping they've learn't how to make an engaging singleplayer campaign.
2011-05-24 08:04:00

Author:
The Gentleman
Posts: 360


lol same engine. I believe it's Treyarch who claimed to be making the new engine and such, so that will be next years CoD no doubt. This truly does look like more of the same. I can see it now, a shallow story given no time to develop because they're switching locations so fast.

I'd probably buy it still though if it weren't for battlefield 3.
2011-05-24 10:13:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Call of Duty has a plot now?

I thought it was "Blah, Blah, Blah - Secret Base - Blah, Blah, Blah - Nuclear Weapon - Blah, Blah, Blah - Counting on You! - Blah, Blah, Blah - WIN!"
2011-05-24 11:39:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


a shallow story given no time to develop because they're switching locations so fast.
But it will still receive international acclaim. Even for the story
2011-05-24 17:25:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


I could care less about the story to be honest. It's all about the Multiplayer for me and COD4 and MW2 (as annoying as some things were) were very fun online. Hopefully this is the same.2011-05-24 20:18:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I could care less about the story to be honest. It's all about the Multiplayer for me and COD4 and MW2 (as annoying as some things were) were very fun online. Hopefully this is the same.
What, the annoyances or the fun you had?
2011-05-24 23:03:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


What, the annoyances or the fun you had?

Both of course!
2011-05-25 00:37:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Who doesn't love greed?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304563104576355310423496054.html?m od=WSJEUROPE_hpp_editorsPicks_1
2011-05-31 07:04:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536


Who doesn't love greed?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304563104576355310423496054.html?m od=WSJEUROPE_hpp_editorsPicks_1

Before anyone starts bashing on this. The WallStreet Journal did a horrible write up on this. It's very misleading.

Call of Duty will always be free to play. This is to be compared with PSN. It's free for everyone, but there are paid aspects to it.

Full details on what will come with the "Elite Service" is coming out tomorrow in the morning. All we know of right now is that DLC will be free, it will be less than 8 dollars a month, and all those that are subscribed get access to a website that features unique stats, and a theater mode on the internet.

To clarify, a few quotes from fourzerotwo;


Absolutely not. Nothing is being charged for that was previously free. More details coming in the morning. Give it a read.


Luckily that's not what the Elite service is. You can still experience MP and access DLC like always.


It's a service outside the game built for the game. Full details hitting tomorrow.
2011-05-31 07:45:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Eurgh. This is almost persuading me to stay away from it. Online stats (as in on your browser web) should be free to access without paying a fee. Look at killzone's website - it rocks.

Okay - found this article on RPS (with a good video)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/31/antisocial-network-call-of-duty-elite-the-trailer/

Actually looks pretty cool. But no way should that be a subscription fee to access it, they really are having a laugh. God i hate activision. They only have the one good franchise so they milk it till its dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUMZGM1N7o&feature=player_embedded
2011-05-31 11:50:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


LOL!

"Am I where I think I am? IS THIS MODERN WARFARE 3!?"
"Woah hey, umm... You can't be here"
"But, but wait, I have so many questions"

That was actually a really cool video.

And you should read the ending because it clearly states that some features mentioned in the video will require a fee, I think the website itself will be free to all.

EDIT: Actually here you are. A quote from fourzerotwo himself.


The main service is free, including stat tracking, groups, and much more. They haven't announced paid aspects yet.
2011-05-31 19:56:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I could care less about the story to be honest. It's all about the Multiplayer for me and COD4 and MW2 (as annoying as some things were) were very fun online. Hopefully this is the same.

This.

If it wasn't for Search and Destroy I'd stay well clear of the game however.
2011-05-31 20:34:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


According to this kotaku article;

http://ca.kotaku.com/5806810/learn-a-little-about-call-of-dutys-online-subscription-plans

You can pay for a (monthly?) subscription which does nothing but let you buy extra dlc. So, you pay so you can pay. Yep.
2011-05-31 21:24:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


According to this kotaku article;

http://ca.kotaku.com/5806810/learn-a-little-about-call-of-dutys-online-subscription-plans

You can pay for a (monthly?) subscription which does nothing but let you buy extra dlc. So, you pay so you can pay. Yep.

Wrong.


The price of ELITE is TBD, the majority of the service is free, and includes all DLC w/ subscription.

Yup.
2011-05-31 22:33:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Well, if you can access that stuff without paying i have no clue what the subscription will be for. It looks really cool if a lot of it is free, but as soon as I see them asking for money I'm out lol.2011-05-31 23:15:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Well, if you can access that stuff without paying i have no clue what the subscription will be for. It looks really cool if a lot of it is free, but as soon as I see them asking for money I'm out lol.

As of right now. The only thing we know is that the subscription will be for...


Tournaments and events designed for players of all skill levels. Compete for awesome virtual and real-world prizes!

How awesome these prizes are? I have no idea.

Some people are stating that they have had a chance to use this service as alpha testers and are stating that some of these prizes are BIG. Like we're talking winning the Black Ops Jeep Wrangler (http://www.jeep.com/en/callofduty/) big. Some other major prizes are Apple Products, Xbox 360s and PS3s. Then the prizes just get smaller and smaller (gift cards, Microsoft or PSN cards, etc...).

This is just a rumor though. However, it would definitely be (in my opinion) worth a subscription.

Just found out it isn't a rumor at all...



By far the most interesting and potential-packed part of Elite is the Compete section. Here players will be able to check out what Activision is calling a “Program Guide” – a list of events and operations that players will be able to compete in. From screenshot contests to “lone wolf” solo challenges to clan vs. clan tournaments, there will be a constantly updated list of events to keep players engaged in Call of Duty’s various multiplayer activities.

Perhaps more importantly, skilled players will be able to win prizes for taking the top spots in these contests. Many of the contests and tournaments will just award virtual badges to display on your Elite profile, but some will dole out real and very desirable gifts to the winners. Example prizes shown during the demo included an iPad and a Call of Duty-branded Jeep.


Source. (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/05/31/hands-on-with-activision-s-elite-call-of-duty-social-network.aspx?PostPageIndex=2)
2011-06-01 00:35:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Oh my gosh, virtual badges. SIGN ME UP!

But for them to be giving away such expensive prizes the subscription is gonna have to be a bit. ( a bit too much that is.) Also, does this mean when you subscribe you have to cross your fingers that some exclusive DLC comes out in regular succession so your money isn't completely wasted? I bet they'll be throwing out a ton of garbage DLC just so it seems like your money is going somewhere aside from Activisions dark, damp, ever expanding stomach.
2011-06-01 01:56:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


Oh my gosh, virtual badges. SIGN ME UP!

But for them to be giving away such expensive prizes the subscription is gonna have to be a bit. ( a bit too much that is.)


A premium Elite membership that gives access to the full service will have a minor cost, but all Activision is saying so far is that it will be “less than any comparable online service.” Activision is also promising a focus on continued service, adding in frequent new features to improve the Elite experience for subscribers.

I've looked around and though it isn't for sure. A lot of websites are stating it will be less than Netflix's 8 dollars a month subscription.

I don't see why it would have to be expensive. Let's say about 50,000 people actually sign up for this thing. That's lets say... 5 dollars a month. Which would be 250,000 dollars a month. I'm sure that's more than enough money to have these kind of tournaments. Don't you think so?


Also, does this mean when you subscribe you have to cross your fingers that some exclusive DLC comes out in regular succession so your money isn't completely wasted? I bet they'll be throwing out a ton of garbage DLC just so it seems like your money is going somewhere aside from Activisions dark, damp, ever expanding stomach.

I don't know why you'd have to cross your fingers? When the DLC comes out, then subscribe for however long you feel you will need to play the DLC. If you just want to play the DLC for a month, subscribe for a month.

I agree that they will probably release more DLC, I hope it isn't garbage though. From what I've read Activision definitely wants to make it our money's worth. And I hope that isn't just a lie and is the truth. But as of right now, we have no idea.

http://www.callofduty.com/elite <--- Why not sign up for the beta and find out.
2011-06-01 02:34:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Some thoughts from other gamers (WIRED.com):

News of a premium service for Call of Duty has caused some fans of the game to fly into a rage, claiming gamemaker Activision should not charge monthly fees for online content.

Call of Duty Elite, which publisher Activision announced Tuesday, is a hybrid stat-tracker–social network for the online-shooter series that will become available this summer. The basic service will be free, but some features will require a premium subscription.

While Activision has not laid out exactly what extras will come with a fee attached, some Call of Duty players have taken to the web to protest what they see as a cash grab by the makers of the best-selling videogame in the United States.

“Call of Duty Elite represents the next big step in finding a way to gouge more money out of gamers’ wallets,” Philip Hansen, who runs gaming website Evil Avatar, said in an e-mail to Wired.com.

While massively multiplayer online games such as World of Warcraft often carry monthly fees, Elite is the first optional premium service for a standard retail game, and an innovative new attempt to milk more money out of the Call of Duty cash cow.

Some gamers see it as an attempt to charge an additional fee for features that are often available in online multiplayer games for free, such as social networking groups and detailed tracking of in-game statistics.

“Instead of respecting their customers and rewarding loyal players, Activision has decided to walk a path toward microtransactions and premium multiplayer content,” Hansen said.

In a video launching a Call of Duty Elite protest, The Gunn Shop called the premium service a “****** move” on Activision’s part (video above).

“It is out of pure greed and lack of respect for their community that Activision has decided to charge a subscription fee for the content to be provided under Call of Duty Elite,” The Gunn Shop wrote on its YouTube page. “Services that other developers offer for free. Make it free, or GTFO!”

Jesse VanLuven, a 36-year-old gamer, called the upcoming service “insulting.”

“We put up with raised game prices, pay subscription fees on Xbox Live and have to pay more than we should for [downloadable content],” VanLuven said by e-mail. “And yet here is Activision adding a new fee, just because they think they can get more money out of gamers, not to bring something new to us.”

Other gamers aren’t as concerned. Some have praised Activision for creating an optional feature rather than charging a fee for standard online play.

“I think the Elite program is fine,” gamer and freelance writer Hollander Cooper said in an e-mail. He compares the service to Sony’s PlayStation Network, which offers a free basic package as well as the premium PlayStation Plus package, which adds features for a monthly fee.

Gamer Mike Pergola told Wired.com he doesn’t intend to use Elite, but he thinks it’s a good way to keep gamers hooked on the game’s competitive elements.

“I think it’s a rather brilliant move on Activision’s part, as it will add new life to the online experience, particularly for ‘hard-core’ players,” Pergola said. “With such a saturated e-market these days, the obvious strategy is to keep people online more, and this is a good way to do it.”

Other Call of Duty players pointed out Elite’s similarities to Bungie’s free service for Halo games.

Call of Duty Elite’s “weapon-use charts and even the fonts seem ripped directly from Bungie’s site,” said game-design student Tyler van Vierssen in an e-mail. “It’s as if they took the limited ‘Pro’ features that were used by Bungie for video management, and extended it to their entire website.”

Activision’s social media rep, Dan Amrich, posted a short FAQ about the upcoming Elite service. Then he spent the day on Twitter parrying gamers’ gripes about the announcement.

“You may not see the value until you get to try it yourself, but that’s where this summer’s beta comes in handy,” he tweeted. When Wired.com asked for comment on the backlash, Activision did not respond by press time.

Bonus: Banning Bigots?

Elite’s social networking features will allow gamers to create and join clans based on personal interests and affiliations. GayGamer writer Scott Nichols said he hopes Elite will allow lesbian, ***, bisexual and transgender Call of Duty players to avoid the bigotry and hateful language he says they usually experience in other online games.

“Online shooters are known for their flagrant hate speech, and groups could offer ways of [meeting] like-minded individuals much easier,” Nichols said in an e-mail. Nichols said he hopes Activision will create ways for groups to moderate themselves. so “haters and bigots” cannot harass them.

Though publicly available groups will be free on Elite, private clans will require premium membership to join.

“This is a huge opportunity for Activision to pull the Call of Duty community out of the current Wild West it inhabits,” Nichols said.

http://bit.ly/lT6R0X

The discussion continues on reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/hon7c/activision_kicks_the_hornets_nest_gamers_protest/

I will try to add my own thoughts during my lunch break

EDIT:

Just had to add this comment here, most of it makes sense


[–]nedmnedm 127 points 7 hours ago*
The "gamers" that articles are written about are people who Activision stopped caring about long ago. We are picky, demanding, and often fickle with our purchase threating piracy when a game deviates from standards we like.
Elite isn't for gamers, its for people who play Call of Duty because all their friends do, and don't really know or care about other videogames. They don't read websites about gaming, or worry about what kind of value they are receiving, or that games like Battlefield are better. This group also has disposable income they are not spending on other game related things, the $15 ripoff map packs have shown this. <Yuppie/Bro joke>
2011-06-01 10:32:00

Author:
OCK
Posts: 1536


Wow this is a first for a Call of Duty game. Right now sign up to be a beta tester.

Just follow the link below, it takes about 30 seconds to apply.

Later this summer you can be part of COD Elite.

http://www.callofduty.com/elite
2011-06-01 11:22:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Didn't Activision expressly deny they were going to have a subscription service, after the backlash when it was first leaked/announced?2011-06-01 11:35:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


I applied for PC and ps3, as I'm interested in trying it out. Won't be touching it when I gotta pay though!2011-06-01 11:40:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Didn't Activision expressly deny they were going to have a subscription service, after the backlash when it was first leaked/announced?
They said you wouldn't have to pay to play. But you will have to pay to set up clans and read your stats or something Activision - We charge you for things, others do for free!
2011-06-01 12:30:00

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jeperty
Posts: 486


They're going to have to do alot more than put a "3" at the end of the title to convince me to play COD again... but it'll be enough to convince the majority.. and giving a two-tiered service (for those gullible enough to pay for it - of which there will be many) just puts me off it even more.

It's such a shame... Call of Duty (1) was a great game... the whole franchise has just gone downhill since then
2011-06-01 12:36:00

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Macnme
Posts: 1970


Activision - We charge you for things, others do for free!

I think the main reason that they do it is because there's a lot of gamers on CoD that don't do anything besides that, and don't understand that there's other games that offer that service for free, and they think that even more of the younger players will believe the service is a nessesity for playing online. When something has to do with CoD, there are thousands who will mindlessly throw money away.
2011-06-01 12:39:00

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Merc
Posts: 2135


Those who subscribe to Call of Duty: Elite, the social networking, stat-tracking service for the gargantuan first-person shooter series, get exclusive access to a Call of Duty web TV series.

"We have engaged some top Hollywood talent to create linear video content that will be exclusive to Elite members," Activision Publishing boss Eric Hirshberg told the Guardian. "That content is inspired by Call of Duty."

He continued: "If you're a sports fan, there are lots of ways for you to connect with that hobby, that passion, not just on the day that the games are played, but throughout the week, and we wanted to give [Call of Duty players] real entertainment value."

Details on the web TV series are scarce. As the Guardian points out, it is unknown whether it's animated or live-action. "We're not going to give much more detail until we have something to show," Hirshberg offered. "That'll be later in the year."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-01-cod-tv-series-for-call-of-duty-elite
2011-06-01 13:02:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


What's the betting that the CoD web TV series will end up on youtube? 2011-06-01 19:24:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


It will certainly be on downloading websites. I'll give the first one a watch just to lol at the suckers who pay for this2011-06-01 19:25:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


What's the betting that the CoD web TV series will end up on youtube?

More like whats the betting someone at Activision is going to have to spend all their work time finding the videos and getting them removed.
2011-06-01 19:51:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Well some more news on the Multiplayer of the game.


Lots of false #MW3 info being reported as fact. There is no Stopping Power, OMA, Commando, or Nukes. Beyond that, you?ll have to wait & see.

Kotaku has some information on new perks and killstreaks.

A lot of the information is false however. The "Team Perks" statement is false, and so is the statement that there will be no dedicated servers. Robert Bowling has stated that they haven't announced that yet. However it's safe to assume that there will be no dedicated servers. I'd be surprised if there was.

New perks coming to Modern Warfare 3 include:

Blind Eye: This makes you immune to computer-controlled and player-controlled killstreaks. The pro version makes your launchers lock on faster and gives you extra bullet damage to vehicles.

Assassin: This makes you immune to UAV, thermal, and heartbeat sensors. The pro version also makes you immune to CUAV, EMP and no longer shows your name in red or the crosshair in red when you're targeted.

Point Guard: Every two assists count as a kill towards your killstreak.

Dead Silence: You make no noise.

Recon: Gives you a special kind of radar to spot enemies, most likely. We're not sure on this one.

My thoughts on these perks: I really like the idea of having two different "Ghost" perks. One that serves to block killstreaks, and one that serves to block UAVs and things. And I'm assuming both of these perks would be in the same Perk Slot. Making you have to choose between the two. Recon also sounds like an "Anti-Ghost" perk. That servers to counter the perk "Assassin".

There will also be a bevy of new killstreaks to play with in multiplayer. Here's the rundown on the latest thinking:

EMP Grenade: Temporarily takes out all area electronics.

Littlebird: A tiny remote-controlled helicopter.

Precision Airstrike: Calls in an airstrike on a targeted area.

Stealth bomber: Calls in a B2 Spirit to carpet bomb along a line designated by the player.

Remote Turret: A remote controlled turret.

Directional UAV: A UAV that can be directed into areas to scan for enemies.

Remote Mortar: Direct a mortar team using a zoomable camera view of the map to call in strikes.

Airdrop Trap: A booby-trapped airdrop.

Ammo Resupply: An ammo reloading airdrop.

Escort Airdrop: A protected airdrop.

Specialist Strike Package: This one remains a mystery to us.

My thoughts on the killstreaks. I really like the Escort Airdrop. We'll see how it plays out though. I'm guessing it will be an attack helicopter that drops the care package, which makes me wonder how reliable this attack helicopter will be in terms of protecting you. The EMP Grenade seems pretty self explanatory. The Specialist Strike Package to me, seems like a package that drops things like the Grim Reaper and Death Machine, however the "Strike" part of the killstreak kind of debunks that assumption. The Airdrop Trap sounds like a killstreak just for the lols. I'm also wondering how the Ammo Resupply care package works. Is it a one time resupply? Or is it more like a resupply box, much like those in Battlefield (forget which BF it was exactly).

Source. (http://kotaku.com/5805959/the-modern-warfare-3-files-team-perks-no-nukes-new-killstreaks)
2011-06-01 21:16:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


An interesting idea with the "Escort Airdrop" would be to surround the airdrop location with smoke. This would create a cool effect that would work (in my opinion) better than any attack helicopter ever has. I especially like this idea because it allow players to take a risk of whether or not to use the escort version which I assume will require a higher killstreak, or go with the risky normal care package that could be stolen... The Escort Airdrop could also possibly have the ability to be picked up only by the player's team, but then this is doubtful due to Free-For-All matches.

Thanks for all of these updates Whale, whether or not others are responding to them you can always assume I'm at least reading them all.
2011-06-02 02:19:00

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WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


An interesting idea with the "Escort Airdrop" would be to surround the airdrop location with smoke. This would create a cool effect that would work (in my opinion) better than any attack helicopter ever has. I especially like this idea because it allow players to take a risk of whether or not to use the escort version which I assume will require a higher killstreak, or go with the risky normal care package that could be stolen... The Escort Airdrop could also possibly have the ability to be picked up only by the player's team, but then this is doubtful due to Free-For-All matches.

Thanks for all of these updates Whale, whether or not others are responding to them you can always assume I'm at least reading them all.

Thank you, and you're welcome. I'm a big CoD fan so you can be sure I'll be looking for updates to the best of my ability.

Also, that's a very good idea.
2011-06-02 03:29:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


So i just watched the extended video of MW3 on gametrailers. Looked identical to MW2, bit of a snore fest tbh. Here's hoping the multiplayer changes a bit.2011-06-06 20:10:00

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ryryryan
Posts: 3767


http://kotaku.com/5808983/when-youre-demoing-modern-warfare-3-it-helps-to-have-a-charged-controller

Well, I made up my mind: Battlefield 3 it is then.
2011-06-06 21:13:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Just saw the E3 stuff. Looks a little better, originally the trailer sucked for me but the new gameplay looks pretty good. I'm most excited about the gun with the red dot sight that with just a little flip it changes to a more advanced scope. That was cool.2011-06-06 21:40:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Man looking at the two videos, the lock on is insane. Forgot how much there was!2011-06-07 13:27:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Will they ever use a different engine for CoD?
EDIT: Just watched the whole trailer, why does the boat go beside them? They have an MG on the front so why not just stay behind and shoot?
2011-06-07 14:20:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


There was a Q&A type deal going on at Reddit for this game. Fourzerotwo was answering questions about the game (as much as he could, without spoiling stuff.)



DO YOU PLAN ON ADDING ANY DINOSAURS IN MW3?




The severe and insulting lack of dinosaurs in Modern Warfare 2 was embarrassing and a black mark on my career. The addition of Dinosaurs and turtles (the modern day dinosaur) are a high priority on the feature list of Modern Warfare 3.


._.
2011-06-12 21:37:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Nope. DICE beat them too it. They didn't take the advice and now they lose.2011-06-12 21:39:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


Lose what? I guarantee MW3 will beat slaughter BF3 in sales. And I guarantee this for years to come.2011-06-12 22:48:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


There was a Q&A type deal going on at Reddit for this game. Fourzerotwo was answering questions about the game (as much as he could, without spoiling stuff.)


too bad,cuz dice already put it in their game


._.
too bad,cuz dice already put it in their game
2011-06-12 22:56:00

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Jonaolst
Posts: 935


Lose what? I guarantee MW3 will beat slaughter BF3 in sales. And I guarantee this for years to come.
Not sales, the dinosaur thing. If they put dinosaurs into the game it'll only be them trying to be better than DICE.
2011-06-12 23:00:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


Lose what? I guarantee MW3 will beat slaughter BF3 in sales. And I guarantee this for years to come.
Sad truth.

MW3 still uses an old engine and still has MP issues, but as long as there's a fanbase it'll sell.
2011-06-12 23:01:00

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gdn001
Posts: 5891


Also, how come at the start of Crysis 2 there's a submarine going to the war torn New York, and you have a friend called Chino, and in the MW2 demo there's a sub going to the war torn New York and you have a friend called Chino?2011-06-12 23:08:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


Not sales, the dinosaur thing. If they put dinosaurs into the game it'll only be them trying to be better than DICE.

It's called being 1-Upped. Ever hear of that?

I mean... Dinosaurs AND Turtles?
2011-06-12 23:09:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


It's called being 1-Upped. Ever hear of that?

I mean... Dinosaurs AND Turtles?
Naw, they just saw DICEs cool move and now they are trying to act cooler, when really it's just sad.
2011-06-12 23:14:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


Naw, they just saw DICEs cool move and now they are trying to act cooler, when really it's just sad.

Don't diss the turtle.
2011-06-12 23:26:00

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Testudini
Posts: 3262


MW3 is going to sell so many copies that not even Chuck Norris himself will be able to aquire one. I think I made my point.2011-06-12 23:29:00

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BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


MW3 is going to sell so many copies that not even Chuck Norris himself will be able to aquire one. I think I made my point.

Considering I pre-ordered my copy of Black ops at 7:30 the day before release, not only could he very easily acquire one, but he wouldn't even have to roundhouse kick anyone.
2011-06-13 01:24:00

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Merc
Posts: 2135


Considering I pre-ordered my copy of Black ops at 7:30 the day before release, not only could he very easily acquire one, but he wouldn't even have to roundhouse kick anyone.

Comparing a game developed by Treyarch and a game developed by Infinity Ward is not acceptable.

Send him to the pit.

All jokes aside. I have a little more information about the game.


No, there is no dive to prone in Modern Warfare 3.


How do I get your job?
Engage me in mortal kombat. Last man standing walks away with a paycheck.


What perks are you dropping from previous games ? OMA , Commando , Second Chance ?
All of the above. None of those are perks in Modern Warfare 3.


In multiplayer, will weapon attachments be unlocked like mw2, or blops?
Neither. We have a unique new way that weapon attachments and upgrades to your weapon are earned in Modern Warfare 3.


Will killstreaks stack?
We've completely re-vamped the "killstreak" system, so the question doesn't really apply. Its too early to go into detail though.

I'm really excited as it seems like they are fixing EVERYTHING that was wrong with MW2. Let's just hope they quickly fix the new ones that arise with MW3.
2011-06-13 06:23:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


No, there is no dive to prone in Modern Warfare 3.

D: Nuuuuuuu
2011-06-13 07:16:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


Comparing a game developed by Treyarch and a game developed by Infinity Ward is not acceptable.

Send him to the pit.

All jokes aside. I have a little more information about the game.











I'm really excited as it seems like they are fixing EVERYTHING that was wrong with MW2. Let's just hope they quickly fix the new ones that arise with MW3.

Still can't fix the community though.

/troll.
2011-06-13 11:06:00

Author:
Unknown User


MW3 is going to sell so many copies that not even Chuck Norris himself will be able to aquire one. I think I made my point.
MW3 is going to sell so many copies, that people could make a house out of it But due to the quality (If the last 2 games were anything to go by) they'll just be tossed to hobos instead of cash
2011-06-13 19:56:00

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jeperty
Posts: 486


MW3 is going to sell so many copies, that people could make a house out of it But due to the quality (If the last 2 games were anything to go by) they'll just be tossed to hobos instead of cash

The one last game, COD4 was a great game, but MW2 was simply that game just glossier looking and with a hollywood storyline.
2011-06-13 20:49:00

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The Gentleman
Posts: 360


Still can't fix the community though.

/troll.

I've never had a problem with the community.
2011-06-14 02:12:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Did anyone see the Co-Op gameplay on Jimmy Fallon? It looked...Let's say, similar 2011-06-14 17:32:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


Bump for new video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL943_23vVs&feature=feedu
2011-08-09 21:01:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Bump for new video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL943_23vVs&feature=feedu

Updated OP, and updating it with all of the other trailers.
2011-08-09 21:04:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


Bump for new video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL943_23vVs&feature=feedu
It's like Nazi Zombies, but without uhh, the zombies.
2011-08-09 23:49:00

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gdn001
Posts: 5891


It's like Nazi Zombies, but without uhh, the zombies.

And only 2 players, which i think is going to be one of the only reasons this won't be as good as zombies, that and the easter eggs.
2011-08-10 00:11:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


It's like Nazi Zombies, but without uhh, the zombies.

Correction: it's like Zombies, but they zombies have guns. It's like the Museum level on crack.

I think I'll stick to Zombies instead of Survival.
2011-08-10 01:08:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Wow, they haven't even added new sounds. Same death noises, gun noises, and even the same voice clip when you call in a predator missile. Even some of the HUD is the same, like at the end with the Score. Maybe this is all filler for them to add in new stuff later, but if it isn't... :/

And man, maybe I'm just crazy, but that trailer is so much like all the Battlefield 3 trailers.

Also, they decided to bring back the Riot Shields? Those, plastic shields that are able to withstand explosions and bullets? Great.

Don't get me wrong though, it looks fun, but it doesn't look (or sound) like a new game. Oh, and the way he pops out that FMG at the end is pretty neat.
2011-08-10 02:08:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358


Also, they decided to bring back the Riot Shields? Those, plastic shields that are able to withstand explosions and bullets? Great.

You do realize that Riot Shields actually do that in real life right? Not to the video's extent but still. Oh and if you look at the scene at the end you can see a lot of awesome things they've added.

For one, it's no longer "killstreaks" but "pointstreaks" earning assists and capping flags will go towards your killstreaks.

Second but not as big as the others, LOOK at how DETAILED the mini-map is. That's awesome.

Third, you can cycle through your killstreaks (make the video fullscreen and look at the bottom right, you can see the predator missile before he earns the juggernaught and you can see that he can press down on the dpad to go back to the predator missile).

Fourth, and also not that big but there is a counter that tells you how many more points you need for your next pointstreak (the orange bars on the bottom right side).

Small I know, but things like that make the game awesome. And they definitely do NOT have the same sound. Sledgehammer games made it a point that they have added tons of new sounds and improved the quality of the sound by a lot. Graphics, not so much. But the sound? Definitely.
2011-08-10 03:19:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


You do realize that Riot Shields actually do that in real life right? Not to the video's extent but still. Oh and if you look at the scene at the end you can see a lot of awesome things they've added.

Try saying that when you get online. One Semtex, two grenade launcher shots, and Spaz spam later and finally the stupid annoying shield camper dies, only for me to have to take care of the other two shield campers in Headquarters.
2011-08-11 03:32:00

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CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Try saying that when you get online. One Semtex, two grenade launcher shots, and Spaz spam later and finally the stupid annoying shield camper dies, only for me to have to take care of the other two shield campers in Headquarters.

Well in the trailer it seems like the Riot Shield can only take so much before snapping in half so it won't be that bad hopefully.
2011-08-11 06:59:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


The only things i want to know are: how are they doing emblems and are they going to bring back the tactical nuke?2011-08-11 16:19:00

Author:
Charlemagne
Posts: 513


Check out the last scene where they show what appears to be a multiplayer map. The kill feed says the juggernaut was killed by an AC130. Could be that they simply haven't changed the icons yet, or maybe they couldn't kill the juggernaut with that new gadget and needed an AC130 to hit at the same time.

As for the sounds, I don't care what the developers say, they are the same. That being said, I only paid attention to the gun sounds and death grunts, not that I could hear any of the background noise with all that added music. I assume when they said they added sounds it was probably for a couple of the new guns along with the environment.
2011-08-11 16:39:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


Check out the last scene where they show what appears to be a multiplayer map. The kill feed says the juggernaut was killed by an AC130. Could be that they simply haven't changed the icons yet, or maybe they couldn't kill the juggernaut with that new gadget and needed an AC130 to hit at the same time.

He doesn't kill a Juggernaut... He earned a juggernaut pointstreak. What that means? No idea. Maybe you can wear a juggernaut suit for 30 seconds (much like the death machine), or maybe you send out a juggernaut onto the map (much like attack dogs).

Also, it's more likely that they just haven't changed the icon yet.

@LittleBigEnder : They have already confirmed that there will be no Tactical Nuke. Or One Man Army, Danger Close, or Commando.

An interview with Robert Bowling has also stated they are working on fixing panic knifing, while saying this in the interview Robert Bowling makes a gesture with his hands. He knifes the air twice, maybe a hint.
2011-08-11 20:07:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


An interview with Robert Bowling has also stated they are working on fixing panic knifing, while saying this in the interview Robert Bowling makes a gesture with his hands. He knifes the air twice, maybe a hint.

Double click for knife? Ugh, I'm not sure if I'll find that a good thing or an annoyance; I occasionally get into situations when I need to knife fast to survive. I'm not sure how double clicking will play out.
2011-08-11 22:04:00

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CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Double click for knife? Ugh, I'm not sure if I'll find that a good thing or an annoyance; I occasionally get into situations when I need to knife fast to survive. I'm not sure how double clicking will play out.

I don't know. Some people have also heard that it will be like BF3. You will have to take out your knife. Two hits to the front, and one to the back. (Much like Halo.)
2011-08-12 00:03:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I don't know. Some people have also heard that it will be like BF3. You will have to take out your knife. Two hits to the front, and one to the back. (Much like Halo.)

Really? I liked CoD because you can knife quickly. It's hard to stealth in BF2 and get knife kills when you have to pull out the knife quickly and aim for the back. I have admit: MW2 was knife spammy. But all they have to do is remove Commando Pro, make Lightweight and Marathon in the same Perk (so both can't be chosen), and no tactical knives.
2011-08-12 00:37:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Really? I liked CoD because you can knife quickly. It's hard to stealth in BF2 and get knife kills when you have to pull out the knife quickly and aim for the back. I have admit: MW2 was knife spammy. But all they have to do is remove Commando Pro, make Lightweight and Marathon in the same Perk (so both can't be chosen), and no tactical knives.

While knifing was overused in MW2, I still run into plenty of panic-knifers in BlOps. I've always felt like I get ripped off for naturally assuming my gun should be able to kill someone point blank just as easily as a knife...

I feel like it would be a risk for them to change knifing in MW3 as it has always been a special part of CoD games and their run-n-gun style of play. Also, some might see it as stealing BF3's idea if they force you to pull out the knife, a copycat move I don't think the developers can afford.
2011-08-12 00:45:00

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WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


Double click for knife? Ugh, I'm not sure if I'll find that a good thing or an annoyance; I occasionally get into situations when I need to knife fast to survive. I'm not sure how double clicking will play out.

I think it means knifes take two hits to kill instead of one.
2011-08-12 00:48:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


I think it means knifes take two hits to kill instead of one.

I doubt that's the case as drawing back your knife takes to long to get two accurate stabs. The only way that could be possible is if every player carries a tactical knife, which is just as doubtful.
2011-08-12 00:57:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


I doubt that's the case as drawing back your knife takes to long to get two accurate stabs. The only way that could be possible is if every player carries a tactical knife, which is just as doubtful.

I think the point is you're not suppose to rely entirely on your knife to kill. Get some shots in em, bring them down to half their health, then finish them off with the knife.
2011-08-12 01:01:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


I think the point is you're not suppose to rely entirely on your knife to kill. Get some shots in em, bring them down to half their health, then finish them off with the knife.

That's what it should be, yet CoD's gameplay is based on fast paced action which doesn't offer the player enough time to wound then knife the enemy. Even if you could find the time to shoot the enemy and knife them, why wouldn't you just finish them off with your gun in the first place?
2011-08-12 01:07:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


While knifing was overused in MW2, I still run into plenty of panic-knifers in BlOps. I've always felt like I get ripped off for naturally assuming my gun should be able to kill someone point blank just as easily as a knife...

I feel like it would be a risk for them to change knifing in MW3 as it has always been a special part of CoD games and their run-n-gun style of play. Also, some might see it as stealing BF3's idea if they force you to pull out the knife, a copycat move I don't think the developers can afford.

Nope.avi

Other games force you two pull out the knife to use (ex. Warhawk, MAG, Team Fortress 2, etc.)


I think the point is you're not suppose to rely entirely on your knife to kill. Get some shots in em, bring them down to half their health, then finish them off with the knife.


That's what it should be, yet CoD's gameplay is based on fast paced action which doesn't offer the player enough time to wound then knife the enemy. Even if you could find the time to shoot the enemy and knife them, why wouldn't you just finish them off with your gun in the first place?

^This.

CoD is different from BF3 and those other FPS because it's really fast paced. Right off the bat you're facing 9 enemies shooting at you, so of course you're going to run like hell, and because CoD maps are relatively small and require no spawn delay for TDM and other modes it gets really REALLY hectic. So two hit knifing will be useless.

TBH, I don't think you can't get rid of panic knifing as much as you can't get rid of panic shooting.
2011-08-12 02:42:00

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TBH, I don't think you can't get rid of panic knifing as much as you can't get rid of panic shooting.

There is no such thing as panic shooting though.

The reason it's called "panic knifing" is this. When someone runs around the corner and you're frightened/surprised, some people clench their controller and accidentally click the joystick (thus the panic knifing) and get a kill that wasn't intended, which is unfair and generally ****** off the person that came around the corner.

You can't really panic knife, you don't hold the trigger down when you're scared. Doesn't happen. I also don't like the idea of changing the knifing system but they Robert Bowling did state they have done something for panic knifing. Don't know what it is, hopefully it's something good.
2011-08-12 08:29:00

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What in the hell are they going to replace the tactical nuke with? I hope its something better.2011-08-12 14:47:00

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What in the hell are they going to replace the tactical nuke with? I hope its something better.

I don't think they're going to replace it with anything. To be honest a game ending killstreak was a dumb idea in the first place. It promoted too much camping.
2011-08-12 18:11:00

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I don't think they're going to replace it with anything. To be honest a game ending killstreak was a dumb idea in the first place. It promoted too much camping.

That and let's face it: when a guy is murdering the other team by himself, they should at least give all the players to the dignity of playing through the whole game (for fun) instead of letting the guy nuke you.
2011-08-13 19:02:00

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While knifing was overused in MW2, I still run into plenty of panic-knifers in BlOps. I've always felt like I get ripped off for naturally assuming my gun should be able to kill someone point blank just as easily as a knife...

I feel like it would be a risk for them to change knifing in MW3 as it has always been a special part of CoD games and their run-n-gun style of play. Also, some might see it as stealing BF3's idea if they force you to pull out the knife, a copycat move I don't think the developers can afford.

You clearly haven't played CoD 2 or any of the older games. You try panic-meleeing with a Bren, it's hilariously slow. Most of the weapons were slow for melee in CoD2, and it was much better, and far less annoying.


There is no such thing as panic shooting though.

The reason it's called "panic knifing" is this. When someone runs around the corner and you're frightened/surprised, some people clench their controller and accidentally click the joystick (thus the panic knifing) and get a kill that wasn't intended, which is unfair and generally ****** off the person that came around the corner.

You can't really panic knife, you don't hold the trigger down when you're scared. Doesn't happen. I also don't like the idea of changing the knifing system but they Robert Bowling did state they have done something for panic knifing. Don't know what it is, hopefully it's something good.

Surely panic shooting is spraying when you run around a corner into a couple of guys? Because if spraying isn't panic shooting, I don't know what is...


I don't think they're going to replace it with anything. To be honest a game ending killstreak was a dumb idea in the first place. It promoted too much camping.

Killstreaks in general aren't a great idea, when they are implemented in the way CoD does. If someone is good enough to get 10 kills in a row, why should they then be given an extra advantage on top of that? It just seems stupid. I'm fine with class-specific 'perks', like Red Orchestra 2 is doing, especially as it requires there to be a limited number of the specialist classes. It's fine when a squad commander can call in a recon plane, especially because your map will normally only show you your location and the location of the objective, and now it can show the location of an enemy, but only when the plane has a direct LoS. Add to that the fact that the dots only show up instantly for the Squad Commander, and then take a second or two more as they filter through the ranks, it's far more balanced.

I don't like killstreaks.
2011-08-15 12:21:00

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Surely panic shooting is spraying when you run around a corner into a couple of guys? Because if spraying isn't panic shooting, I don't know what is...

Pretty sure that's just called spraying. Not because they panic. You do things unintentionally when you panic, like knifing (because you squeezed your controller too hard). You can't really hold down the trigger unintentionally.
2011-08-15 19:37:00

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Pretty sure that's just called spraying. Not because they panic. You do things unintentionally when you panic, like knifing (because you squeezed your controller too hard). You can't really hold down the trigger unintentionally.

I've done it before (Admittedly not on CoD... Infact I've done it on RO plenty of times...). Though I guess the difference is that on CoD you don't die in 1 shot so it isn't as worrying... I had a real Band of Brothers moment on RO, we both ran into a room from different doors and missed the first shot for our bolt actions because we didn't aim. My gun jammed and he had to reload. So we did the 'throw the pistol at each other' scene, except with bayonets.

I won.

Still, I think panic shooting happens. It's the same as spraying I guess, but you panic and therefore don't take the time to aim properly?
2011-08-16 00:42:00

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Unknown User


Still, I think panic shooting happens. It's the same as spraying I guess, but you panic and therefore don't take the time to aim properly?

Makes sense if you put it that way.
2011-08-16 08:23:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
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Still, I think panic shooting happens. It's the same as spraying I guess, but you panic and therefore don't take the time to aim properly?

^This

However, panic knifing in CoD2 is different. In fact, it was worst. You panic knifed and you had to haul *** to get out of the area of fire. Panic knifing in the new CoDs are faster so you can get a good aim, but it's still annoying.

Frankly, I'm used to pulling out the knife in BF2 and TF2, so a changed in melee won't bother me. But I still doubt they'll remove panic knifing.

EDIT:


You clearly haven't played CoD 2 or any of the older games. You try panic-meleeing with a Bren, it's hilariously slow. Most of the weapons were slow for melee in CoD2, and it was much better, and far less annoying.

Lawl. I've played them. I think CoDs 1, 2, and 3 were the only ones where they tried to make a good campaign mode, 4th being the actual good one (and then campaign degraded from there). However, I don't like CoD2 that much anymore; I think it lost its "flavor" after a while (but I still admit that its the best balanced CoD to date).

Try CoD: WaW. True, the WWII era has been done to death, but the online is balanced. While the killstreaks do get annoying, they are bare-able (attack dogs are easy to kill).
2011-08-16 16:42:00

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^This

However, panic knifing in CoD2 is different. In fact, it was worst. You panic knifed and you had to haul *** to get out of the area of fire. Panic knifing in the new CoDs are faster so you can get a good aim, but it's still annoying.

Frankly, I'm used to pulling out the knife in BF2 and TF2, so a changed in melee won't bother me. But I still doubt they'll remove panic knifing.

EDIT:



Lawl. I've played them. I think CoDs 1, 2, and 3 were the only ones where they tried to make a good campaign mode, 4th being the actual good one (and then campaign degraded from there). However, I don't like CoD2 that much anymore; I think it lost its "flavor" after a while (but I still admit that its the best balanced CoD to date).

Try CoD: WaW. True, the WWII era has been done to death, but the online is balanced. While the killstreaks do get annoying, they are bare-able (attack dogs are easy to kill).

I didn't say you hadn't played CoD 2

CoD 2 was the most balanced, and out of the console versions took the most skill by far, because Bolt-Action rifles were 1 hit kills, as they should be. And the Melee in CoD 2 was hilarious, Bren slap!

CoD2 is still a classic, I can play that anytime and it makes me happy WAW was terrible though, to be honest. I have no idea why they decided Bolt-Actions that aren't 1 hit kills were a good idea, I really don't.

Still, RO is the king of WW2 FPS's.
2011-08-16 23:21:00

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I didn't say you hadn't played CoD 2

I never said you accused of it either. http://www.littlebigplanetarium.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wink_animate.gif


CoD 2 was the most balanced, and out of the console versions took the most skill by far, because Bolt-Action rifles were 1 hit kills, as they should be. And the Melee in CoD 2 was hilarious, Bren slap!

That is VERY true. I love how when you enter a match, no one is spraying or anything. As soon as you see someone, you immediately try to shoot and dodge at the same time. It's funny when no one is killing each other when we do that; we look like weird puppets going up and down, jump-shot then prone! And hip firing, unrealistic as it was, was fun to do, considering they don't go off in a random direction.


CoD2 is still a classic, I can play that anytime and it makes me happy WAW was terrible though, to be honest. I have no idea why they decided Bolt-Actions that aren't 1 hit kills were a good idea, I really don't.

Well, I play CoD2 only once in a while. TBH, I love WaW since bolt-actions don't necessarily kill in one shot IRL, so I'm okay with it. Plus, it forces the player to actually aim for the head, which makes the game even more challenging. While I wish they stopped making such cluttered maps, and they removed the stupid tanks, I still enjoy having that CoD2 feel in WaW.


Off-Topic: CoD4 is the best "modern" warfare FPS. Nothing's overpowered, and it's balanced (without mods of course). Just saying.


Still, RO is the king of WW2 FPS's.

I haven't played it, but I'll take your word for it.

EDIT:



E3 2011 Gameplay demo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNjCv9OIF-M


Dam that's terrible. The campaign looks too easy (I'm assuming this is Recruit mode). I know Recruit is supposed to be easy, but one hit kills and enemies missing shots by a mile? Wow... the chopper like halfway in the video SHOULD have torn him apart, but he just walked away like nothing.

At the FPS was just... bleh. I'm sure a PC can handle it, but still, that was a terrible way to show off gameplay.
2011-08-16 23:56:00

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I never said you accused of it either. http://www.littlebigplanetarium.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wink_animate.gif



That is VERY true. I love how when you enter a match, no one is spraying or anything. As soon as you see someone, you immediately try to shoot and dodge at the same time. It's funny when no one is killing each other when we do that; we look like weird puppets going up and down, jump-shot then prone! And hip firing, unrealistic as it was, was fun to do, considering they don't go off in a random direction.



Well, I play CoD2 only once in a while. TBH, I love WaW since bolt-actions don't necessarily kill in one shot IRL, so I'm okay with it. Plus, it forces the player to actually aim for the head, which makes the game even more challenging. While I wish they stopped making such cluttered maps, and they removed the stupid tanks, I still enjoy having that CoD2 feel in WaW.


Off-Topic: CoD4 is the best "modern" warfare FPS. Nothing's overpowered, and it's balanced (without mods of course). Just saying.



I haven't played it, but I'll take your word for it.

EDIT:



Dam that's terrible. The campaign looks too easy (I'm assuming this is Recruit mode). I know Recruit is supposed to be easy, but one hit kills and enemies missing shots by a mile? Wow... the chopper like halfway in the video SHOULD have torn him apart, but he just walked away like nothing.

At the FPS was just... bleh. I'm sure a PC can handle it, but still, that was a terrible way to show off gameplay.

Thing is, when a Bolt Action isn't a 1 hit kill in real life, it's still gonna seriously impede you, though obviously so would an automatic rifle. But the point is, in the interest of balance, it makes sense for the person who is accurate and hits 1 shot before someone sprays an MP-40 to get the kill. In a game like Red Orchestra, it's 1 hit in the head/chest, but if you are shot in the hand you drop your gun and have to pick it up (which is quite scary when you are trying to run through MG fire... but I digress) and if you are shot in the leg you can hardly move for 10 seconds or so. Obviously it's not entirely realistic because you don't just recover after 10 seconds, but the point is the hits that don't kill do have an effect.

CoD doesn't do that, so in WaW Bolt Actions need 1 hit kills for balance.

And I bet a PC can't handle that, from what I've read BO runs worse on PC than consoles lol. Shoddy port and all that...

2011-08-17 00:16:00

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Dam that's terrible. The campaign looks too easy (I'm assuming this is Recruit mode). I know Recruit is supposed to be easy, but one hit kills and enemies missing shots by a mile? Wow... the chopper like halfway in the video SHOULD have torn him apart, but he just walked away like nothing.

That was the demo shown at E3. You do realize companies that show off their game at places like E3 tone down the difficulty far more than the player will ever be able to do right? I guarantee the difficulty shown there won't even be in the game. It's to ensure that the person showing you gameplay never dies and helps ensure a smooth presentation. Every company does this (DICE did it with their BF3 gameplay).
2011-08-17 05:17:00

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Bump with update on PC.


Yes! Modern Warfare 3 on PC will support dedicated servers, day 1. You can fav or admin your own to control setup, rules, bans. #MW3 #PC
2011-08-17 22:53:00

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Bump with update on PC.

Lol, as if that should ever even need a post to confirm it on a PC game...
2011-08-17 23:50:00

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Lol, as if that should ever even need a post to confirm it on a PC game...

Yeah well it's the first time Infinity Ward has added dedicated servers to their game so I thought it was bump worthy.
2011-08-18 00:06:00

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Yeah well it's the first time Infinity Ward has added dedicated servers to their game so I thought it was bump worthy.

I know, I just can't believe it's taken this long....
2011-08-18 06:36:00

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Updated the OP with all of the CoD XP stuff out of bordem.2011-09-03 05:10:00

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16enYfWRq7c

@2:58


I didn't mess around with the deathstreaks too much....

Yup, I just lost ALL hope in CoD now. You'd think Activision would have learned from that stupid mistake by now. Just goes to show how much they ******ed up the series.
2011-09-03 06:23:00

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I'm watching these videos, and I wondered why somebody posted so much MW2. No lie, it looks EXACTLY the same. Maps haven't changed, guns haven't changed, and that's why I'm not getting these **** games. Because if I wanna play MW3, I can just go play MW2.2011-09-03 08:04:00

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@2:58
Yup, I just lost ALL hope in CoD now. You'd think Activision would have learned from that stupid mistake by now. Just goes to show how much they ******ed up the series.

Only now? I lost all hope when they hyped up a Modern Warfare sequel only to end up launching a 4 hour long cash-in with a screwed up multiplayer mode a random producer could have crapped out in less than a year. After that it was not hard to see how hard Activision is milking the money cow, and how people still diligently buy what is basically the same game with a different paintjob. Every. Single. Year. Just like sheep. And meanwhile Activision closes Bizarre Productions (one of the best and oldest studios ever), cancels sequels of great classic games like True Crime, uses 3 studios to work on the same franchise simultaneously, and saturates the market with so many Guitar Heros until it stops being profitable, disbanding its producer afterwards. Activision doesn't deserve a dime for what they do, not one. And yet, everytime they launch a "new" COD they break a sales record, while producers making fresh and original IP's hardly get any sales. This is what most disappoints me about the gaming community.
2011-09-03 14:06:00

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Only now? I lost all hope when they hyped up a Modern Warfare sequel only to end up launching a 4 hour long cash-in with a screwed up multiplayer mode a random producer could have crapped out in less than a year. After that it was not hard to see how hard Activision is milking the money cow, and how people still diligently buy what is basically the same game with a different paintjob. Every. Single. Year. Just like sheep. And meanwhile Activision closes Bizarre Productions (one of the best and oldest studios ever), cancels sequels of great classic games like True Crime, uses 3 studios to work on the same franchise simultaneously, and saturates the market with so many Guitar Heros until it stops being profitable, disbanding its producer afterwards. Activision doesn't deserve a dime for what they do, not one. And yet, everytime they launch a "new" COD they break a sales record, while producers making fresh and original IP's hardly get any sales. This is what most disappoints me about the gaming community.
Thats what happens when gaming isn't nerdy When it isn't nerdy, kids get into it, and then they will buy anything that has explosions, ie. CoD.
2011-09-03 18:14:00

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I'm watching these videos, and I wondered why somebody posted so much MW2. No lie, it looks EXACTLY the same. Maps haven't changed, guns haven't changed, and that's why I'm not getting these **** games. Because if I wanna play MW3, I can just go play MW2.

They arent the same at all, the very mission of creating a sequel is variety apart from the prequel. They arent even close to being the same, you take the graphics, the HUD, the killstreaks, the perks, the weapons, the new survival mode, the new campaign theyre all different now. Don't be so biased
2011-09-03 18:25:00

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They arent the same at all, the very mission of creating a sequel is variety apart from the prequel. They arent even close to being the same, you take the graphics, the HUD, the killstreaks, the perks, the weapons, the new survival mode, the new campaign theyre all different now. Don't be so biased

Even though I'm a CoD fanboy myself, the graphics, HUD, and maybe perks are all the same, plus survival is part of Spec Ops.

Now to go tell children Santa Claus doesn't exist.
2011-09-03 18:30:00

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Even though I'm a CoD fanboy myself, the graphics, HUD, and maybe perks are all the same, plus survival is part of Spec Ops.

Now to go tell children Santa Claus doesn't exist.

The graphics? Same as black ops. HUD? Most likely. Perks? No, not at all, if you look at the new multiplayer video on machinima then youll see that there are alot of new ones.
2011-09-03 18:52:00

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They arent the same at all, the very mission of creating a sequel is variety apart from the prequel. They arent even close to being the same, you take the graphics, the HUD, the killstreaks, the perks, the weapons, the new survival mode, the new campaign theyre all different now. Don't be so biased

And this is the guy who went into the BF3 thread and claimed it had 'no proper multiplayer modes' and that it wasn't very good.

I lol'd.
2011-09-07 16:26:00

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vawYfrAacrI&feature=player_embedded

Fair play I like the idea of world war 3, so I'm more interested in SP in this game atm haha. Looks fun.
2011-10-08 17:56:00

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vawYfrAacrI&feature=player_embedded

Fair play I like the idea of world war 3, so I'm more interested in SP in this game atm haha. Looks fun.

kthx

*updates OP*
2011-10-08 19:11:00

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3 week old bump!

So my friend was somehow able to get the game early. This guy on Craigslist was selling two copies and I unfortunately wasn't able to get one. But my friend did, I'm going to go to his house to play it tomorrow and I'll let you guys know how it is.
2011-11-04 05:28:00

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3 week old bump!

So my friend was somehow able to get the game early. This guy on Craigslist was selling two copies and I unfortunately wasn't able to get one. But my friend did, I'm going to go to his house to play it tomorrow and I'll let you guys know how it is.

I got one early too! Admittedly, it says CoD4 on the box, but it's the same game, right?
2011-11-04 19:07:00

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I got one early too! Admittedly, it says CoD4 on the box, but it's the same game, right?

Dude, just let us be. We like the game, respect our opinions. Don't come on our thread bashing a game we're excited for. How would you feel if I went onto a Red Orchestra II thread and just bashed it over and over?
2011-11-04 19:48:00

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I got one early too! Admittedly, it says CoD4 on the box, but it's the same game, right?

Why do you hate the game so much? Is it because you're bad at it? You know what this thread is intended for yet you come on here, with no real information at all. Just to bash on the game?

I've seen the games you like and guess what? Forza 4? Same as Forza 3 and 2.
Battlefield 3? LITERALLY, the same thing as Battlefield 2 with just a graphics overhaul. Game still plays out the same, still the same gametypes, still the same GAME.

Like seriously? Grow up and find a new hobby.
2011-11-04 20:11:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
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Modern Warfare 3: Intense Young Girl Blowing Up Simulator 2011

Yep, it's no Russian all over again. Except now, you record it as to preserve it in history.
2011-11-04 21:21:00

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Modern Warfare 3: Intense Young Girl Blowing Up Simulator 2011

Yep, it's no Russian all over again. Except now, you record it as to preserve it in history.

Uh wat? O_O
2011-11-04 23:34:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
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Uh wat? O_O

We may never know...
2011-11-04 23:36:00

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Merc
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Why do you hate the game so much? Is it because you're bad at it? You know what this thread is intended for yet you come on here, with no real information at all. Just to bash on the game?

I've seen the games you like and guess what? Forza 4? Same as Forza 3 and 2.
Battlefield 3? LITERALLY, the same thing as Battlefield 2 with just a graphics overhaul. Game still plays out the same, still the same gametypes, still the same GAME.

Like seriously? Grow up and find a new hobby.

Forza 4 has tyre modelling info taken driectly from Pirelli - it may not mean much to people who don't understand racing, but in terms of the physics of the car, and the way it handles it is a complete difference - something you won't recongnice. But that is fine, I undestand taht you haven't actually played the games - I have played CoD1 through to Black ops, and CoD1 - CoD4 were fantastic. I actually used to play with fourzerotwo (Honestly, believe what you want but it's true) on CoD 2. But it is exactly the same since CoD4, and you can't deny that - other than the stupid new killstreaks they add.

I'm drunk but I can tell you for a fact hat there is nothing that they have added which would be the same as adding a new tyre model in Forza, because Forza actually did it right. You clearly haven't played Forza, whereas I am on a top team and am in the top 10 on most leaderboards - I am in a place where I can tell the difference, as I am with CoD having played it since the original. BF is like BF2, yeah - that is what we, the fans, wanted, so that can hardly be a complaint...

Edit: And no, I'm not bad at CoD, it's hard to be bad at a game like that. I find it dull an repetitive, and you can't deny that CoD4 will be pretty much the same as this one, except with different killstreaks - which ultimatley are what runined CoD in the first place. You clearly didn't play CoD 1-3 though, so don't worry about knowing that (though 3 was only ok...)
2011-11-05 01:30:00

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Forza 4 has tyre modelling info taken driectly from Pirelli - it may not mean much to people who don't understand racing, but in terms of the physics of the car, and the way it handles it is a complete difference - something you won't recongnice. But that is fine, I undestand taht you haven't actually played the games - I have played CoD1 through to Black ops, and CoD1 - CoD4 were fantastic. I actually used to play with fourzerotwo (Honestly, believe what you want but it's true) on CoD 2. But it is exactly the same since CoD4, and you can't deny that - other than the stupid new killstreaks they add.

I'm drunk but I can tell you for a fact hat there is nothing that they have added which would be the same as adding a new tyre model in Forza, because Forza actually did it right. You clearly haven't played Forza, whereas I am on a top team and am in the top 10 on most leaderboards - I am in a place where I can tell the difference, as I am with CoD having played it since the original. BF is like BF2, yeah - that is what we, the fans, wanted, so that can hardly be a complaint...

Edit: And no, I'm not bad at CoD, it's hard to be bad at a game like that. I find it dull an repetitive, and you can't deny that CoD4 will be pretty much the same as this one, except with different killstreaks - which ultimatley are what runined CoD in the first place. You clearly didn't play CoD 1-3 though, so don't worry about knowing that (though 3 was only ok...)

Pretty much exactly the same for me. I'll get it once the price drops so I can play with all my friends. That's the same thing I did with MW2 and Blops. (Actually, for Blops, I kind of stole it from my friend... ._.
2011-11-05 02:00:00

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BF is like BF2, yeah - that is what we, the fans, wanted, so that can hardly be a complaint...

And yet COD continues to beat BF in sales. Which is because MW3 is like MW2 because that is what we, the fans, wanted, so that can hardly be a complaint...

Oh and I have played Forza, which made me lol so hard when you said the different tires affect the physics of the car. I actually go to the track once a month sometimes more and Forza physics are nowhere near real life physics. You know a lot about racing games and watching races but I can guarantee you don't actually race. So you shouldn't be so quick to assume I don't know anything about cars.

EDIT: Forgot about why I even came to this thread. I played this game the entire weekend at a friends house. I loved it. I love the strike packages, I love the killstreaks, I love the weapons, the weapon proficiencies, and the maps. The maps are very different from what you see in COD maps. Kind of takes a while to get used to them and I was not able to learn the maps at all - with there being 16 maps I only played each map 3-4 times which is not enough for me to learn choke points and stuff. It takes more bullets to kill people than MW2 but less than Black Ops. I think they found the right medium. Unlike MW2, the guns have recoil and I love how you have to decide between not being seen or faster ADS.

Anyways, loved it. Can't wait to get to play it on my own account.

Oh and you can FINALLY have camo's on your secondaries.
2011-11-07 05:47:00

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Whalio Cappuccino
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Ahead of the annual CoD release we have the annual CoD shipment theft http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/06/report-french-delivery-truck-hijacked-6-000-copies-of-modern-w/2011-11-07 09:57:00

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And yet COD continues to beat BF in sales. Which is because MW3 is like MW2 because that is what we, the fans, wanted, so that can hardly be a complaint...

Oh and I have played Forza, which made me lol so hard when you said the different tires affect the physics of the car. I actually go to the track once a month sometimes more and Forza physics are nowhere near real life physics. You know a lot about racing games and watching races but I can guarantee you don't actually race. So you shouldn't be so quick to assume I don't know anything about cars.

EDIT: Forgot about why I even came to this thread. I played this game the entire weekend at a friends house. I loved it. I love the strike packages, I love the killstreaks, I love the weapons, the weapon proficiencies, and the maps. The maps are very different from what you see in COD maps. Kind of takes a while to get used to them and I was not able to learn the maps at all - with there being 16 maps I only played each map 3-4 times which is not enough for me to learn choke points and stuff. It takes more bullets to kill people than MW2 but less than Black Ops. I think they found the right medium. Unlike MW2, the guns have recoil and I love how you have to decide between not being seen or faster ADS.

Anyways, loved it. Can't wait to get to play it on my own account.

Oh and you can FINALLY have camo's on your secondaries.

And when you've raced on Forza with the fanatec wheels and a proper setup, it's completely different - I don't own one, but I've used one... However, I didn't say it was identical to actually racing on a track, however you said it was no different to FM2/3, which is blatantly is. Equally, you would be assuming that the car you drove is the same car and setup, on the same tyres, as the one in the game - if it isn't, you can compare it about as much as I can...
2011-11-08 01:15:00

Author:
Unknown User


This made me lol. Recycling stuff from 4 games ago in the franchise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5dsOn06w1s
2011-11-08 14:18:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


This made me lol. Recycling stuff from 4 games ago in the franchise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5dsOn06w1s


4 games ago? Pfft. Thats a model from the beginning mate.

http://i.imgur.com/JSfDr.jpg

Thats from the original COD -_-
2011-11-09 04:39:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


The theory of evolution sounds so right now! 2011-11-09 15:25:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Now that its been spotted I recon they'll play it off as an easter egg to avoid people complaining about their laziness.2011-11-09 16:03:00

Author:
Smudge228
Posts: 533


Another CoD already being set for release next year. And people wonder how I'm not getting excited for MW3 and why I'm not getting it2011-11-09 20:09:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


So hows the game? Getting this l8r this week :/2011-11-09 21:53:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


4 games ago? Pfft. Thats a model from the beginning mate.

http://i.imgur.com/JSfDr.jpg

Thats from the original COD -_-

Lol! Though that's the same building, not the same model (obviously due to how far apart these games were made). The tiny details (bar the textures, maybe a ladder and bar here and there) are exactly the same in the MW1 and MW3 versions lol.
2011-11-09 23:57:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


SKYRIM SKYRIM SKYRIM!

Also, CoD needs to take a leaf out of Blizzards book. They seem to think they are the leaders in gaming, but while sales figures would suggest that, it is SC2 that is leading e-sports, and that is also a far better game. DOTA2 will also destroy CoD on a competitive level.
2011-11-10 03:29:00

Author:
Unknown User


SKYRIM SKYRIM SKYRIM!

Also, CoD needs to take a leaf out of Blizzards book. They seem to think they are the leaders in gaming, but while sales figures would suggest that, it is SC2 that is leading e-sports, and that is also a far better game. DOTA2 will also destroy CoD on a competitive level.

Please, if you have nothing to add to the conversation, please leave the thread
You obviously don't like the game, but the ones who do are here to discuss it peacefully. If you have any complaints about Call of Duty, keep them to yourself
(P.S. CoD and DOTA are two completely different genres)
2011-11-10 05:14:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


OH MY GOD THE FAD IS THE BEST GUN EVER.

/leaves
2011-11-10 07:46:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


OH MY GOD THE FAD IS THE BEST GUN EVER.

/leaves

Nope.avi. Cm901 is bettar :3 Seriously, COD gets a TON of publicity, even in parts of sleepy towns where im from.... The newspaper had an entire page article on it, interviewing one of the developers about their COD elite program.
2011-11-10 21:39:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


Nope.avi. Cm901 is bettar :3 Seriously, COD gets a TON of publicity, even in parts of sleepy towns where im from.... The newspaper had an entire page article on it, interviewing one of the developers about their COD elite program.

CM901 is good too. To be honest I think all the guns are good. The type 95 with rapid fire is ridiculous though...
2011-11-11 03:34:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I finished the campain and it was awesome IMO. I want to play the next one already. Ive played BO,mw1,2 and now 3. I've played socom 1,2,ca,3,con,4. I've played battlefield 1,3,bc1,bc2&1943. Even battlefront 1&2. But out of all those shooters Multiplayer on mw3 gets boring for me the quickest for some reason. I'll have to try special ops.2011-11-11 16:45:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


Today I went into gamestop. They were all sold out of games except for two; MW3 and Hello Kitty: Happy Party Pals for gameboy advance. I made my way over to Hello Kitty, but someone grabbed it before I did. I proceeded to leave the store.2011-11-11 17:09:00

Author:
ATMLVE
Posts: 1177


Today I went into gamestop. They were all sold out of games except for two; MW3 and Hello Kitty: Happy Party Pals for gameboy advance. I made my way over to Hello Kitty, but someone grabbed it before I did. I proceeded to leave the store.

Do you need to borrow some $$ for the big boy game?
2011-11-11 17:21:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


Do you need to borrow some $$ for the big boy game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX-Ss7b1l-4
2011-11-11 17:51:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Anyone been playing Hardcore? Played a few rounds last night at around 11:30. Some of the most fun, tactically advanced (Well, as far as tactically goes in COD) matches Ive ever played. Playing late at night when the 13 and below age group goes to bed seems to really increase the expeirience with Cod. We oughta make a group and kick some butt in HC TDM or Domination some time! 2011-11-12 17:11:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


Wow.... I've never actually had a COD game before, but I played them a LOT at friends, and I finally got MW3 yesterday. I know its like MW2 but for me it seems 100% better just because its my first game like that. Its so fun Im level 16 already <3

And no, Im not gonna compare this to BF3 because I've never played it.
2011-11-13 14:11:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


Do you need to borrow some $$ for the big boy game?

I wouldn't call it a big boy game when there's a prepubescent git bragging on the mic about what he did to your mother and yelling racial slurs in almost every match.
2011-11-13 15:54:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


I wouldn't call it a big boy game when there's a prepubescent git bragging on the mic about what he did to your mother and yelling racial slurs in almost every match.
That was just an uncalled reply for and uncalled post.
2011-11-14 20:17:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


THIS GAME IS AWESOME. I like the new guns and killstreaks. I just finished the campaign aswell. That stuff was cool.2011-11-14 20:56:00

Author:
Unknown User


I wouldn't call it a big boy game when there's a prepubescent git bragging on the mic about what he did to your mother and yelling racial slurs in almost every match.

I've heard 20+ year olds do the same thing.

Remember, kids (or in your case, prepubescent gits) don't magically think of things to say/do. They imitate other people, and more often than not, older people. So yes, still a big boy game.
2011-11-14 23:31:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I've heard 20+ year olds do the same thing.

Remember, kids (or in your case, prepubescent gits) don't magically think of things to say/do. They imitate other people, and more often than not, older people. So yes, still a big boy game.

Or then those older people are immature adults behaving like prepubescent gits. Either way the game is a beacon of immaturity even if there are the occasional reasonable players among the hordes of douchebags with ADHD who weren't loved enough by their parents.

By "big boy game" I'm taking it you mean "mature game", which Call of Duty simply isn't. Having violence in it doesn't make it mature, as it becomes trivial in less than an hour. Having war in it doesn't make it mature, as it couldn't have been portrayed in a more idealized and hollywoodesque manner. The rating has no relevance in making it a mature game either as the legions of kids on the cusp of adolescence I glimpsed queueing up at a gamestore for the midnight release don't give two flying turds about ratings.
2011-11-15 05:17:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Or then those older people are immature adults behaving like prepubescent gits. Either way the game is a beacon of immaturity even if there are the occasional reasonable players among the hordes of douchebags with ADHD who weren't loved enough by their parents.

By "big boy game" I'm taking it you mean "mature game", which Call of Duty simply isn't. Having violence in it doesn't make it mature, as it becomes trivial in less than an hour. Having war in it doesn't make it mature, as it couldn't have been portrayed in a more idealized and hollywoodesque manner. The rating has no relevance in making it a mature game either as the legions of kids on the cusp of adolescence I glimpsed queueing up at a gamestore for the midnight release don't give two flying turds about ratings.

So you were at the midnight release.
2011-11-15 20:30:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


So you were at the midnight release.

Not exactly... passed by when I was heading home with a couple of friends. It was about 11 pm and there was already a massive queue occupying the sidewalk.
2011-11-15 23:16:00

Author:
SnipySev
Posts: 2452


Not exactly... passed by when I was heading home with a couple of friends. It was about 11 pm and there was already a massive queue occupying the sidewalk.

I went to get a pizza in town when BF3 had the midnight launch. Was happy to see a guy walk out just after midnight while I was eating who, after queuing up for ages, walked out infront of the BF3 guys with a copy of Football Manager 12 lol.
2011-11-16 01:18:00

Author:
Unknown User


Hey, For anyone in COD Elite I made a clan called MYsTiC, Simply type it in on the Elite website then post in the comments if you would like to join 2011-12-02 15:30:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


Omg! Was looking through the past CoD games and found the best one! It's called Duty Calls: The Calm Before the Storm. Look!

Free download here (http://www.thedutycalls.com/download.html).

Trailer here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iIOxjztMZfc#!

Walkthrough here:


Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VuUEXdJkuE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjDix1c9MvQ&feature=related
2011-12-06 05:17:00

Author:
Speedynutty68
Posts: 1614


Omg! Was looking through the past CoD games and found the best one! It's called Duty Calls: The Calm Before the Storm. Look!

Free download here (http://www.thedutycalls.com/download.html).

Trailer here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iIOxjztMZfc#!

Walkthrough here:


Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VuUEXdJkuE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjDix1c9MvQ&feature=related


Old news is old bro.

https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=47321-Duty-Calls-Weirdest-Video-Game-Advertisement-Ever
2011-12-06 05:34:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Well sorry that I wasn't a member for that... -_-"

Old post is old, bro.
2011-12-06 07:02:00

Author:
Speedynutty68
Posts: 1614


Well sorry that I wasn't a member for that... -_-"

Old post is old, bro.

That is why there is a search bar.

Common sense is common sense, bro.
2011-12-06 20:42:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


That is why there is a search bar.

Common sense is common sense, bro.

Well seeing how I wasn't here for that, I didn't know that anything like that existed. And I never use the search bar anymore. It only brings up completely unrelated topics. I searched Call of Duty recently and nothing related showed up.

Speedy says 'Duh.'
2011-12-07 00:31:00

Author:
Speedynutty68
Posts: 1614


I don't really play MW3, but this definitely made my day:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBWEwmHqmwo
2011-12-08 01:15:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Lol. I wish Tobuscus would do something like that.2011-12-08 01:38:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Reached the Iron Lady mission in less than 2 hours on normal mode...
This game is short, and for me, that I buy it only for the single player it's a disappointment.

I forgot a mega fail...story mode, after you get Volk, the guy takes him out of the car and start to punch him, Omega thinks: "That is fun, I want to punch him too" presses R3..."You must capture Volk alive"
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
2011-12-08 10:18:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


]have you tried the first machine pistol i think called fmg9 with ambiko its over powered they said they will change ithttp://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/FMG92011-12-23 14:03:00

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danger sackboy
Posts: 177


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