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Having EXTREMELY bad problems with my computer.

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Hello all,

As of lately, I've been getting the Blue Screen (of death) dozens of times a day. It's gotten to the point that it's almost impossible to do anything (at least for me.)

I know there a lot of tech/computer savvy people on this website and I need help badly.

It happens MAINLY when I am watching a youtube video. It's happened once or twice before (not really sure what I was doing) but it almost always happens when I'm watching a video. Sometimes it won't even go to the blue screen, it'll just freeze and I will have to do a hard reboot on the computer.

I'm not able to see the error message because the screen goes away way too quickly. The only thing I was able to obtain was this...

driver_irql_not_less_or_equal

Please help. It's getting really irritating. I've heard it might have to do with my BiOS or my graphics card but it just started happening within this week and I didn't do anything new to my computer within this week.

Thanks in advance.
2011-05-08 03:50:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Could be a device driver problem, they're a common cause of the BSOD. Have you recently installed any new hardware (including USB devices) or software that may have caused this problem?

EDIT: oh srry, diddn't read whole OP. Does your computer reboot automatically after the BSOD?
2011-05-08 03:55:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Could be a device driver problem, they're a common cause of the BSOD. Have you recently installed any new hardware (including USB devices) or software that may have caused this problem?

EDIT: oh srry, diddn't read whole OP. Does your computer reboot automatically after the BSOD?

Yes it does.
2011-05-08 04:02:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Oh man this isn't good. We're gonna have to do some serious tinkering around in the settings but first may I know which OS we will be using today?2011-05-08 04:07:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


It also could be a motherbord fault if your computer starts going on and off by itself its most likely the south bridge. I should know that has happened to me now im stuck using the PSN web browser.2011-05-08 04:09:00

Author:
WESFUN
Posts: 1336


ack... doesn't sound good.

Just curious if your drivers are updated for your video or not. ... but as enlong3 said, knowing which OS will help quite a bit.

You should be able to see some errors in the error logs as well that might be helpful. Pay attention the time and date to insure you are looking at the event rather than a red herring in the bootup. Sometimes just to omit boot up log from my attention, I allow it to just stay off for a bit after the lockup so I can better tell what may have happened.
2011-05-08 04:17:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


One potential solution that has been mentioned on other sites is removing any USB devices and expansion cards from the PC and see if that fixes the conflict issue.2011-05-08 04:24:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


One potential solution that has been mentioned on other sites is removing any USB devices and expansion cards from the PC and see if that fixes the conflict issue.

I have none in the PC currently. I was able to download a BiOS update from HP's website that supposedly fixes the blue screen crash. I will keep you guys updated.
2011-05-08 04:37:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


That might do it.. if it keeps it up you might think of doing a memory test.

http://www.memtest86.com/

There is a free download to build a standalone bootable cd that will run the test. Only reason I mention it is I had a wacky error awhile back and found that one of my memory sticks was bad.
2011-05-08 04:40:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


whaaaaale I hope everything works out for you best for luck.2011-05-08 04:47:00

Author:
WESFUN
Posts: 1336


That might do it.. if it keeps it up you might think of doing a memory test.

http://www.memtest86.com/

There is a free download to build a standalone bootable cd that will run the test. Only reason I mention it is I had a wacky error awhile back and found that one of my memory sticks was bad.

UPDATE : As soon as I posted my reply, the BSOD hits me. What is this memory test? I have to burn it on a cd? What? Didn't understand that part. Also a little more information that might help. A lot of times my "Windows Task Bar Manager" fails, and it tells me it isn't responding.
2011-05-08 04:48:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


That might do it.. if it keeps it up you might think of doing a memory test.

http://www.memtest86.com/

There is a free download to build a standalone bootable cd that will run the test. Only reason I mention it is I had a wacky error awhile back and found that one of my memory sticks was bad.

Excellent suggestion. It could be likely a memory or overheating issue from what I read. Some people have had success simply be removing one of the RAM sticks from the PC. You could also try memtest86 but I think the recommended running time is like 8-12 hours or something like that. Depends on how soon it is able to catch errors.

I believe it has to be run while most of the memory is not in use so yes it would have to be placed on a bootable disc and loaded during bootup.

Whale, does your computer lock up or freeze a lot?
2011-05-08 04:49:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Well, it could be a number of things, a virus from a website could have caused problems, or the BIOS may have malfunctioned. Or any downloaded music, files, programs may have messed up something. Does it say: "windows has encounter an error and must shut down"? There are several reasons it could have shown itself, the most common is the installation of a driver or other program onto the computer. Several times when Windows updates itself automatically it will download certain drivers, and that could be the culprit. Or say you just installed a camera or printer, the drivers on the disc that came with it might have done it. So if you have downloaded some piece of information that you know of, then either uninstall it, or do a system restore. After that, if you still receive the Blue Screen, then the drivers might have corrupted the operating system itself. That means one of two things. You'll either have to 'repair' windows, or completely reinstall it. No matter which one, you should back up your information at this time. Put any pictures or programs or any other information you want to keep onto a disc, or flash drive, or some other storage device. Let me know how it goes, I hope you can get it fixed Good luck! Let me know if you need any help with it.2011-05-08 05:06:00

Author:
Unknown User


Something you should definitely try as soon as possible is to go into Windows safe mode and browse around and see if the problem still exists.2011-05-08 05:10:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Yup.. even overheating can cause some wacky issues. Like a bad cpu fan etc.. Most motherboards have utilities you can download to check temps etc and insure fan rpm is up to snuff as well as cpu and MB temps are in check.

memtest86 does take awhile to run depending on the tests selected, though seems like there is a probe mode that can find stuff like a whole bad stick a bit quicker as it doesn't go in order with all the tests. It actually is it's own os. You download the zip which is an ISO image for the cd.

http://www.memtest86.com/

Very good instructions on the site and pretty easy to run. You do have to insure you go into bios and change to boot to CD though... lol
2011-05-08 05:16:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Very good instructions on the site and pretty easy to run. You do have to insure you go into bios and change to boot to CD though... lol

You think this is a time for funny jokes? THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!



I'll give that a shot, thanks everyone.
2011-05-08 06:20:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Just getting to this now... I had the same BSOD issues on my last PC as it was on it's last legs. I'm pretty sure the problem came down to faulty RAM, but I've also seen similar problems with heatsinks popping off CPUs. I might be tempted to check the state of the thermal paste too.2011-05-08 07:24:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


Just getting to this now... I had the same BSOD issues on my last PC as it was on it's last legs. I'm pretty sure the problem came down to faulty RAM, but I've also seen similar problems with heatsinks popping off CPUs. I might be tempted to check the state of the thermal paste too.

Oh God I hope not. The computer isn't that old for it to be on its last legs.
2011-05-08 07:59:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Not to say it is... it's just a case in point. Hardware can go faulty at any time. I've had mem sticks go bad spontaneously, just like I've had power supplies, video cards, and hard drives. Sometimes it's just luck of the draw.2011-05-08 08:06:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


The BSOD showed a new error. MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. Any advice? Maybe this will help further the solution? People are stating it's a bad memory stick so I'm going to try the memtest tonight, but anything else?

I've also been using the computer in Safe Mode for about an hour now and it's perfect. I'm getting no lock ups or freezing which I get when I'm not in Safe Mode.
2011-05-09 22:31:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


In Safe mode less things are loaded which could theoretically be less enough to keep anything out of the range of the memory that was bad. It also might point to a driver that is having issues as well.

Let's see what the memtest results are. It might also help to know how many sticks, what type and what size, speed those sticks are as well.
2011-05-10 03:51:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


In Safe mode less things are loaded which could theoretically be less enough to keep anything out of the range of the memory that was bad. It also might point to a driver that is having issues as well.

Let's see what the memtest results are. It might also help to know how many sticks, what type and what size, speed those sticks are as well.

God it's gotten so unbearably bad that it happens almost every 10 minutes. Firefox will also randomly close, grrr. Will the memtest give me the amount of sticks and stuff? Or do I need to find those myself.
2011-05-10 04:00:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


It tells you the address and the memory range of the test it is performing and then if it finds a failure. It think it also displays what you have in each slot, but I don't think it tells you what your MB configuration is... Ok.. that may not make sense.. lol

Like for example some MB's allow you to add up to 4 sticks in different combinations as long as the type and speed match. Others may want only want matched sets in certain slots.. In some older systems, you had to have blanks in the remaining unfilled slots. ...so it helps to know what MB we are talking about. If you don't know that, we might be able to find that out depending on what kind of system it is. manufacture model number etc..
2011-05-10 04:41:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Does the problem persist in safe mode? If so, it would most likely be a hardware issue probably the RAM. If not, it could also just be a faulty driver or piece of software running on your system. I would suggest running memtest86 for a couple of hours and see if it picks up anything.

There are several ways to determine which RAM configuration your system uses. You could just simply look up the computer make/model and you should be able to find the information you need off some website. You could also use a handy little program called CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html) which is a free program that provides detailed specs of your system including the RAM.

One more thing I would suggest doing just to get some more information on the problem is to prevent the computer from restarting when it encounters the BSOD. This will allow you to read the error in whole. You will need to hard boot the computer to restart it however. To do this, Right Click on “My Computer” and go to “Properties”. Then go to the “Advanced” tab and under the headline “Startup and Recovery”, press the “Settings” button. Untick the “Automatically Restart” box and press Ok.
2011-05-11 01:03:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


It's perfectly fine in Safe Mode. I've come to the conclusion that it's a software problem. Both Firefox and IE both crash every once in a while. I've ordered a recovery disk from HP and I think that will solve all my problems. I used HP's Diagnostic tool to check if my Memory, CPU, or any Harddrives were faulty and they were all fine.2011-05-11 02:25:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Have you tried deleting system32?2011-05-13 01:50:00

Author:
Kody59527
Posts: 121


Have you tried deleting system32?

You're joking right?

Anyways. Update. The recovery disk didn't do anything so I don't think it's a software problem. I've tried Memtest86 and it's found 5000 errors, and the errors come up everytime the test begins the "32 bit" part. I don't know why but that's the only time it finds errors. The only thing is that the test freezes. I've tried it twice, last night it went to 5 hours and it froze overnight, and today it went for 2 hours and froze. I honestly don't know what to do. How can I stop it from crashing/freezing?
2011-05-18 00:44:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I would maybe try replacing the RAM and see if that works. If you have multiple RAM sticks in your computer you can try taking one out and see if the problem continues.

If you want to monitor your CPU temp to check to see if it is overheating, might I suggest using CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/CoreTemp32.zip) which is a free program that displays the temp of your CPU. If it becomes extremely high, it may be the cause of the system freeze.
2011-05-18 01:46:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


It's perfectly fine in Safe Mode. I've come to the conclusion that it's a software problem. Both Firefox and IE both crash every once in a while. I've ordered a recovery disk from HP and I think that will solve all my problems. I used HP's Diagnostic tool to check if my Memory, CPU, or any Harddrives were faulty and they were all fine.


Have you tried deleting system32?


I would maybe try replacing the RAM and see if that works. If you have multiple RAM sticks in your computer you can try taking one out and see if the problem continues.

If you want to monitor your CPU temp to check to see if it is overheating, might I suggest using CoreTemp (http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/CoreTemp32.zip) which is a free program that displays the temp of your CPU. If it becomes extremely high, it may be the cause of the system freeze.

Well I've been monitoring my CPU temp and it's fine. Never goes over 30 degrees. Any idea how I would go about checking if I ever several RAM sticks? I've never done anything like it before.
2011-05-18 03:16:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I would recommend using crucial.com's memory scanner. You can download it from their homepage here. (http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/)

Once the scan is complete and it takes you to the browser page, you should see a section on the left hand panel labeled memory which should list all the important specs.
2011-05-18 03:37:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


I would recommend using crucial.com's memory scanner. You can download it from their homepage here. (http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/)

Once the scan is complete and it takes you to the browser page, you should see a section on the left hand panel labeled memory which should list all the important specs.

Okay. I scanned my computer and got this...

Memory Type: DDR2 PC2-6400, DDR2 PC2-8500, DDR2 (non-ECC)
Maximum Memory: 4GB
Currently Installed Memory: 2GB
Total Memory Slots: 2
Available Memory Slots: 0

Now what?
2011-05-18 03:48:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Okay. I scanned my computer and got this...

Memory Type: DDR2 PC2-6400, DDR2 PC2-8500, DDR2 (non-ECC)
Maximum Memory: 4GB
Currently Installed Memory: 2GB
Total Memory Slots: 2
Available Memory Slots: 0

Now what?

You have two memory slots and none currently available. Therefore, you have two 1GB RAM sticks currently in the computer. Cool, huh?

Lemme ask you this, how familiar are you with the anatomy of a computer?
2011-05-18 03:56:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


You have two memory slots and none currently available. Therefore, you have two 1GB RAM sticks currently in the computer. Cool, huh?

Lemme ask you this, how familiar are you with the anatomy of a computer?

Not familiar at all. The only time I saw the inside of my computer was when my friend installed a graphics card for me.
2011-05-18 03:59:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I'm a little interested to know why the memory in your computer is not uniform. Was any additional RAM added into your system?

Anyway, normally I would recommend ripping that SOB apart and removing one of the RAM sticks. But because you told me you are not familiar with the interior, I could not recommend you doing the procedure yourself without risking damage to the computer. I'm afraid there is no easy way to say this but it looks like we're going to have to put the computer to sleep. It would be cruel to let the computer continue suffering in such a horrid way. To properly euthanize your computer, please download and execute this virus. (ftp://ftp.cpuid.com/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.57.1-setup-en.exe) Don't worry, the computer won't feel a thing.
2011-05-18 04:02:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


I'm a little interested to know why the memory in your computer is not uniform. Was any additional RAM added into your system?

Anyway, normally I would recommend ripping that SOB apart and removing one of the RAM sticks. But because you told me you are not familiar with the interior, I could not recommend you doing the procedure yourself without risking damage to the computer. I'm afraid there is no easy way to say this but it looks like we're going to have to put the computer to sleep. It would be cruel to let the computer to continue suffering in such a horrid way. To properly euthanize your computer, please download and execute this virus. (ftp://ftp.cpuid.com/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.57.1-setup-en.exe) Don't worry, the computer won't feel a thing.

Uh, what? O_O
2011-05-18 04:19:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Have you noticed any problems after the installation of the graphics card? Sometimes graphic cards can generate a great deal of heat which may cause other computer components to overheat sooner than normal. They can also drain a lot of power which may negatively affect the other computer components causing system freeze ups. If your system power supply cannot support the graphics card power demands, it will create a lack of power nourishment for the other components which results in malfunctions and premature failure.2011-05-18 04:40:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Have you noticed any problems after the installation of the graphics card? Sometimes graphic cards can generate a great deal of heat which may cause other computer components to overheat sooner than normal. They can also drain a lot of power which may negatively affect the other computer components causing system freeze ups. If your system power supply cannot support the graphics card power demands, it will create a lack of power nourishment for the other components which results in malfunctions and premature failure.

Nope. I installed the card a year or two ago. Never had a problem until 2 weeks or so ago.
2011-05-18 05:27:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I see, now tell me, what exactly was accomplished with the recovery disc that was used. Was Windows reinstalled to a clean state?2011-05-18 05:32:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


I see, now tell me, what exactly was accomplished with the recovery disc that was used. Was Windows reinstalled to a clean state?

Sorry for the delay. Yeah it was reinstalled to a clean state, exactly the way you get it when you first get the computer.

EDIT: I was attempting to watch a youtube video just now, my computer screen froze but I was for the first time still able to use my mouse and keyboard. So I ctrl+alt+deleted and found out that my CPU Usuage skyrocketed to 100% I don't think that's suppose to happen. Right?
2011-05-18 06:17:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


driver_irql_not_less_or_equal

Not really enough to go on.

It should also tell you which driver module is at fault, e.g. "atapi.sys" would generally point to a fault with a CD/DVD/BD drive. I get that a lot on one of my laptops, cos the DVD drive is broken, but I'm too lazy to fix it.
2011-05-18 17:59:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Not really enough to go on.

It should also tell you which driver module is at fault, e.g. "atapi.sys" would generally point to a fault with a CD/DVD/BD drive. I get that a lot on one of my laptops, cos the DVD drive is broken, but I'm too lazy to fix it.

I'm confused. Are you saying that phrase means "Not really enough to go on." Or that I'm not giving enough information to go on. Anyways I'll try to figure out what driver module is at fault but I'm not sure where to look on the screen, going to have to make it so it doesn't automatically restart.
2011-05-18 18:41:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


You're joking right?

Anyways. Update. The recovery disk didn't do anything so I don't think it's a software problem. I've tried Memtest86 and it's found 5000 errors, and the errors come up everytime the test begins the "32 bit" part. I don't know why but that's the only time it finds errors. The only thing is that the test freezes. I've tried it twice, last night it went to 5 hours and it froze overnight, and today it went for 2 hours and froze. I honestly don't know what to do. How can I stop it from crashing/freezing?

The test isn't as informative as where. Was it during the test for the first 1gb or the 2nd? It usually displays the range of memory being tested as well as which test.

Still sounds to me like you have a bad memory stick. A bit miss matched to boot, but I don't think that caused your issue since it has worked prior. My tip would be to find a friend that knows something to help you figure out which stick of memory it is and replace it. That particular memory shouldn't cost too much.
2011-05-18 18:57:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I'm confused. Are you saying that phrase means "Not really enough to go on." Or that I'm not giving enough information to go on.

The latter.

According to MS...

Stop 0x000000D1 or DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

The Stop 0xD1 message indicates that the system attempted to access pageable memory using a kernel process IRQL that was too high. Drivers that have used improper addresses typically cause this error.

If you get a screen like this...
http://builder.japan.zdnet.com/storage/2010/12/12/af05af2af7e215b9c89be35b55faf51c/07.jpg
...the most pertinent part is the bit that reads "USBPORT.SYS", indicating a fault with the USB subsystem.

It'll either be a physical fault with the hardware related to that subsystem, or, more likely, a bug in the device driver software which interfaces with that subsystem.
2011-05-18 19:14:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


The test isn't as informative as where. Was it during the test for the first 1gb or the 2nd? It usually displays the range of memory being tested as well as which test.

Still sounds to me like you have a bad memory stick. A bit miss matched to boot, but I don't think that caused your issue since it has worked prior. My tip would be to find a friend that knows something to help you figure out which stick of memory it is and replace it. That particular memory shouldn't cost too much.

I don't remember as I wasn't paying too much attention to what stick it was testing. But I'm going to take it to someone that knows something about computers to get this (hopefully) worked out.


The latter.

According to MS...


If you get a screen like this...
http://builder.japan.zdnet.com/storage/2010/12/12/af05af2af7e215b9c89be35b55faf51c/07.jpg
...the most pertinent part is the bit that reads "USBPORT.SYS", indicating a fault with the USB subsystem.

It'll either be a physical fault with the hardware related to that subsystem, or, more likely, a bug in the device driver software which interfaces with that subsystem.

I've gotten the error about 10 times now and I don't recall seeing anything like that on the bottom. I recall the *** STOP: ... but nothing after that. I can't really say why this happens all I know is that it happens more frequently when I am watching a video and that the error is sometimes different (MEMORY_MANAGEMENT is one I've gotten a few times too.)
2011-05-18 19:31:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


If your looking in to memory you can go http://www.crucial.com/uk/index.aspx?gclid=CLPKzb7H8qgCFVJX4QodIhwDCg&cpe=pd_google_uk&ef_id=HLxN1EkPPFwAAEry:20110518223247:s and they automatically look through your pc for you by downloading a little software they provide. After they've checked your system, they tell you what ram can go in your pc, how many slots are in it and the price for different moduels of ram. They are usually quite cheap to.

I knew nothing about the insides of a pc before I bought my ram, but I managed to put it inside myself.
2011-05-18 23:34:00

Author:
dbibby88
Posts: 378


I've gotten the error about 10 times now and I don't recall seeing anything like that on the bottom. I recall the *** STOP: ... but nothing after that. I can't really say why this happens all I know is that it happens more frequently when I am watching a video and that the error is sometimes different (MEMORY_MANAGEMENT is one I've gotten a few times too.)

Well I was wrong. I've gotten the BSOD twice now and it told me that the dxgkrnl.sys and thewin32k.sys are at fault. I google'd both and skimmed a few pages and it seems that it's a hardware problem, would I be correct on that assumption?
2011-05-19 02:58:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


It might help if you are able to get the full BSOD message for us. Is the computer still restarting everytime it encounters this error because if so there is a way of preventing it from doing so. I think I mentioned the procedure in an earlier post but I'll repeat. Click Start > Run > type sysdm.cpl > Click enter > Go to advanced tab > Click settings under Startup and Recovery Settings > Uncheck the Automatic Restart box under system failure.

If you have recently reinstalled Windows to a clean state, then any persisting BSODs would most likely be the result of a hardware issue. I would also suggest using the event viewer to see what error reports may have been logged. To do this, Click Start, and then click Control Panel. Click Performance and Maintenance, then click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Computer Management. You should look for any error messages with the exclamation mark.

Obtaining the Windows dump files might help too. I would use BlueScreenView (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bluescreenview.zip) to view these files which should help us better understand the cause of the problem.
2011-05-19 03:33:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


It might help if you are able to get the full BSOD message for us. Is the computer still restarting everytime it encounters this error because if so there is a way of preventing it from doing so. I think I mentioned the procedure in an earlier post but I'll repeat. Click Start > Run > type sysdm.cpl > Click enter > Go to advanced tab > Click settings under Startup and Recovery Settings > Uncheck the Automatic Restart box under system failure.

If you have recently reinstalled Windows to a clean state, then any persisting BSODs would most likely be the result of a hardware issue. I would also suggest using the event viewer to see what error reports may have been logged. To do this, Click Start, and then click Control Panel. Click Performance and Maintenance, then click Administrative Tools, and then double-click Computer Management. You should look for any error messages with the exclamation mark.

Obtaining the Windows dump files might help too. I would use BlueScreenView (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/bluescreenview.zip) to view these files which should help us better understand the cause of the problem.

I checked the Event Viewer and found 172 Events. All of which have the exclamation mark. LOL.

Here are the errors...


http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled1.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled2.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled3.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled4.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled5.jpg



EDIT: I updated my computer so it prevents the BSOD from going away and as soon as I did I got a BSOD.

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Technical Information :

***STOP: 0x0000000A ( 0x00FFFE10, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x82019FF9)

EDIT2: I downloaded BlueScreenView. Is there any easy way of posting all the dump files here other than typing them individually?
2011-05-19 04:19:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


My goodness! I've never seen such an epidemic before. You can probably just take a few screenshots of some of the error messages in BlueScreenView and that should help.2011-05-19 04:54:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


I took several, tried to get one of each driver.


http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled10.jpg

http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/pp312/Whaaaaale/Untitled11.jpg

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2011-05-19 05:02:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


It looks like many drivers are causing problems with the computer. It probably has nothing to do with the actual drivers themselves but something that is causing them to corrupt within the memory. In fact, most of the error strings have to do with the memory. My best guess would be that the memory should be replaced or at least reseated. If memtest86 has detected a numerous amount of errors with the memory then this could only point to one culprit.2011-05-19 05:15:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


It looks like many drivers are causing problems with the computer. It probably has nothing to do with the actual drivers themselves but something that is causing them to corrupt within the memory. In fact, most of the error strings have to do with the memory. My best guess would be that the memory should be replaced. If memtest86 has detected a numerous amount of errors with the memory then this could only point to one culprit.

I think so too. Thank you Enlong, you've been quite a bit of help here.
2011-05-19 05:16:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


It looks like many drivers are causing problems with the computer. It probably has nothing to do with the actual drivers themselves but something that is causing them to corrupt within the memory.

I concur. If you're getting problems across multiple subsystems, then it would point to something they share in common.



In fact, most of the error strings have to do with the memory.

Sure, but that's the way in which most faults will manifest, regardless of the cause.



My best guess would be that the memory should be replaced or at least reseated.

The memtest86 results would seem to concur, but then this...

It's perfectly fine in Safe Mode.
...doesn't make sense.

Have you tried using the BIOS's in-built POST (Power-On Self-Test)? There's usually an option in the BIOS to enable/disable a full memory test - on mine, there's a BIOS option called something like "Fast POST", and disabling that performs a full memory test upon boot.

The motherboard also contains a zillion components, a fault in many of which can also cause similar problems. Frankly, a problem of this nature can be a complete pain in the butt to track down, so depending on how much you value your time, you might prefer to just buy a new PC.

Otherwise it's a case of checking out the usual suspects - things like...

Checking everything's seated firmly in the motherboard.
Checking all connecting cables are making contact.


FWIW, the last fault I encountered was caused by high internal temperatures causing the plastic on some of the connectors to slowly warp over time, to the extent that they would intermittently lose contact.
2011-05-19 10:56:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


The memtest86 results would seem to concur, but then this...

...doesn't make sense.

Well I was wrong, and I guess I should've made it more clear in my other post that it was still crashing even in Safe Mode, it was less frequent but I would still get it. I've also realized that the crashes happen when there is a lot of loading/opening up to be done for the computer. For example if I was to open up 5 different tabs one after each other and type a different website in each. Or if I'm trying to load two videos at one time.
2011-05-19 18:19:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


To me that would suggest the memory errors are happening high on the first stick or possibly quarter to midway up on the 2nd stick. Though keep in mind memory does not get allocated all nice and neat like filling up a glass with a frosty beverage as I am seemingly suggesting. Though "generally" the more you do, tabs you open, programs you load, you start hitting higher memory addresses.

..however as Aya says, there is a zillion components that can go flaky. However, I still have a sneaking suspicion it is memory from following all your comments. Especially since you ran memtest86 and got errors. Sometimes just re-seating the memory can do wonders on a memory problem. The other good news is if you want to try and take it somewhere to have them simply "check and.. " OR "replace my memory", that particular memory is not very expensive at all these days.
2011-05-19 22:23:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


The other good news is if you want to try and take it somewhere to have them simply "check and.. " OR "replace my memory", that particular memory is not very expensive at all these days.

How much we talking?
2011-05-19 23:01:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Ummm... I suspect no more than like $60 - $80 and that price could double your current memory. (as in 2 2gb sticks instead of 2 1gb) I would get both so they match. Still would be nice to know your system type and everything to give you a better quote, but someone local should be able to figure it out easily.2011-05-19 23:11:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I went ahead and looked up how to take memory out, turns out it's as easy as microwaving a pizza (don't ask, I'm hungry). I took one memory stick out and I've been trying to make this baby work, opening up tons of tabs, videos, and programs and it seems I took out the right memory. Let's hope I didn't just jynx it.

I'll keep you guys updated, I'm going to go ahead and keep one 1GB RAM stick and go ahead and swap the bad memory stick for a 2GB RAM stick for a total of 3 GBs. The guy at GeekSquad told me it's pointless to have 4 GBs on a 32-bit since it doesn't use the last GB.
2011-05-20 20:53:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Cool. I wasn't sure if you could mix and match on your system. Especially with dual channel systems, it seems some like my current MB likes them matched.

And yup easy as popping toast or mw pizza!! You now have skillz! I think you can use the last 1gb, but only as part of the swap file on 32 bit systems. So yeah.. not really an issue for you at this point.

Awesome! Good luck!
2011-05-20 21:01:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Cool. I wasn't sure if you could mix and match on your system. Especially with dual channel systems, it seems some like my current MB likes them matched.

And yup easy as popping toast or mw pizza!! You now have skillz! I think you can use the last 1gb, but only as part of the swap file on 32 bit systems. So yeah.. not really an issue for you at this point.

Awesome! Good luck!

Computer hasn't crashed yet but it sometimes slows down/freezes for half a second. Is this because I'm using 1GB perhaps?
2011-05-20 21:19:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Computer hasn't crashed yet but it sometimes slows down/freezes for half a second. Is this because I'm using 1GB perhaps?


Ummmmm... possibly if you have a few things open and swap back to the first which would be more evident with less memory. There can be a bit of delay for it to pull from the swap file depending on your HDD speed etc..

I like no errors though. To me that is a nice sign.
2011-05-20 21:22:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Yup. I've watched a good handful of Youtube videos and haven't had an error yet. Looks like I found the culprit. Going to be leaving my house in a bit and I'm probably going to run the Memtest when I'm gone just to make sure I've found it.

Once again, thanks a bunch guys.
2011-05-20 21:52:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


UPDATE: May be worse than I expected. Neither RAM sticks are bad. It is the slot itself. I tried both sticks in the slot that isn't working and got errors in the Memtest for both. What can I do for a corrupted slot?2011-05-22 05:37:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Ack.. seriously?!!

Well.. you had 2gb total before all this. You should be able to get a 2gb stick and simply fill the good one for now. Otherwise you are probably looking at a new mother board.
2011-05-22 13:47:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Well, my comps packed it in. Worst part it, there is no clear signs as to why?!

Originally, my Comp powers up - Fans begin to spin, light shine, but nothing appears on my Screen - I receive a 'No signal' message.
My DVD Drive doesn't wish to open up, nor will anything start.
I've tried 3 other screens - same issue, so its not that.
I've tried rearranging the 4 different RAM cards, & replaced the Graphics card (where my Monitor plugs in). Nothing.

There is a spare tower in the cupboard; I could switch the 3 HDD into it, but I'm not sure about the risk of loosing some items.
In the previous days, my Comp had taken a while to shut down (around an hour), and restarting it would result in a system reboot, claiming the error to being the BSOD.

I could wait for a neighbor - works with Comps for a living; he may be able to fix it, but who knows how long he'll take to get home.
Or I could do the switch now?

I should add that, previously, the Motherboard was signaling 6 beeps and/or 3 red blinks of a light. By a quick fix on the processor, Ive fix that issue, but now I'm up to powers being supplied, but my computer is still out of it.
2011-05-22 16:06:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


UPDATE: May be worse than I expected. Neither RAM sticks are bad. It is the slot itself. I tried both sticks in the slot that isn't working and got errors in the Memtest for both. What can I do for a corrupted slot?

You've confirmed that it's just that one slot that doesn't work, correct? If you are sure that the RAM in fact works and believe the slot may be the culprit, the first thing to do would be to blow out the slot to clear any dirt or debris that may have fallen in it and try the slot again. If that doesn't work, then the slot may be damaged/defective and there is not really more you can do other than to replace the motherboard. You should be able to put at least one 2GB stick of RAM in your system however.

@Dymus - Do you see any BIOS message or POST shown on the screen while it boots up? If it is absolutely blank during the whole bootup process, I would tend to think there must be something wrong with a major PC component. I would maybe start with just the bare essentials loaded in the system. Try taking out the graphics card and all but one RAM stick in the first slot and see if the system boots from there.
2011-05-22 16:43:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Ack.. seriously?!!

Well.. you had 2gb total before all this. You should be able to get a 2gb stick and simply fill the good one for now. Otherwise you are probably looking at a new mother board.


You've confirmed that it's just that one slot that doesn't work, correct? If you are sure that the RAM in fact works and believe the slot may be the culprit, the first thing to do would be to blow out the slot to clear any dirt or debris that may have fallen in it and try the slot again. If that doesn't work, then the slot may be damaged/defective and there is not really more you can do other than to replace the motherboard. You should be able to put at least one 2GB stick of RAM in your system however.

Is there any downside to having one 2GB stick instead of two 1Gb sticks? I would assume more stress on one stick would cause the computer to run slower. Or am I wrong?

I'm going to also try cleaning out the slot itself today, checking inside to see if there is anything in there but I'm sure it's the slot itself. I ran memtest for both sticks in that slot and they both came with errors, also ran the test with both sticks in the other slot and the test ran error-free.
2011-05-22 21:07:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Is there any downside to having one 2GB stick instead of two 1Gb sticks? I would assume more stress on one stick would cause the computer to run slower. Or am I wrong?

I'm going to also try cleaning out the slot itself today, checking inside to see if there is anything in there but I'm sure it's the slot itself. I ran memtest for both sticks in that slot and they both came with errors, also ran the test with both sticks in the other slot and the test ran error-free.

Hmm... Nah... I wouldn't think it would go slower at all than before. ..well, unless you count all the errors. Those slowed you down quite a bit. lol
2011-05-22 22:53:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Is there any downside to having one 2GB stick instead of two 1Gb sticks? I would assume more stress on one stick would cause the computer to run slower. Or am I wrong?

I'm going to also try cleaning out the slot itself today, checking inside to see if there is anything in there but I'm sure it's the slot itself. I ran memtest for both sticks in that slot and they both came with errors, also ran the test with both sticks in the other slot and the test ran error-free.

Not really other than not being able to take advantage of dual-channel mode (which your system may not support) but still there is very little if any noticeable performance change anyway. Do try cleaning out the bad slot and see if it corrects the problem. Dirty connectors can easily prevent data from being sent between two points.
2011-05-23 00:17:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Well, my problem fixed...

Just had to go all Frankenstein's Monster on it with 5 spare towers; and only spent 60 pounds in total.
2011-05-24 00:29:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


Well, my problem fixed...

Cool congrats! I never noticed your problem till just now! lol Sorry about that.. glad you got it all figured out though!
2011-05-24 01:36:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I have a similar problem in that my computer BSODs randomly with IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (no 'driver&apos. Sometimes it happens on shutdown, others just randomly while I'm using it. However, if I turn it on and off again, it's fine. I get informed that Windows has 'recovered from a serious error' and it's fine until it happens again.

Hope your's is OK Whaale
2011-05-24 20:50:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


UPDATE: I took some "Contact Cleaner" and cleaned the other slot and I let the Memory Test run one time and it worked error free! I'm now currently on 2GBs (using both the old RAM sticks just to make sure) and I have yet to have an error. I think it was just a dirty slot and I really hope it works without errors because that would be awesome.2011-05-25 03:24:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


UPDATE: I took some "Contact Cleaner" and cleaned the other slot and I let the Memory Test run one time and it worked error free! I'm now currently on 2GBs (using both the old RAM sticks just to make sure) and I have yet to have an error. I think it was just a dirty slot and I really hope it works without errors because that would be awesome.

Awesome congrats!
2011-05-25 03:27:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Awesome congrats!

Thanks so much!
2011-05-25 03:30:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


WELP... this thread started slowly turning into a help thread, so any help for me? there isn't any problem (and if there was, i know how to fix them) i just want help finding old components to upgrade my system...

Windows XP Home Basic W/ Intel Celeron 1400mhz
512 MB DDR RAM (2 slot, both occupied)
PCI Graphics card slot

Challenge : find a better graphics card than THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133336) for my computer, that won't take weeks to find?
2011-05-25 04:19:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


With a 1400mhz processor maybe it's time to upgrade more than the video card? >_>2011-05-25 05:35:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


WELP... this thread started slowly turning into a help thread, so any help for me? there isn't any problem (and if there was, i know how to fix them) i just want help finding old components to upgrade my system...

Windows XP Home Basic W/ Intel Celeron 1400mhz
512 MB DDR RAM (2 slot, both occupied)
PCI Graphics card slot

Challenge : find a better graphics card than THIS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133336) for my computer, that won't take weeks to find?

Yeah. You're going to need more than a graphics card upgrade. You're going to want to buy some RAM too, 512 MB is like... Stone age status. O_O
2011-05-25 07:42:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Might be easier to upgrade everything... PCI is like 1993 technology and looking for an upgrade for that is asking friends to look to see if they have anything left over in their closet or searching on ebay. There is just no winning here though as you would still be playing in 1993 - 1995 for game compatibility. There have been several tech upgrades to GFX cards since then. After PCI came AGP and after AGP came PCI-X and now what is current is PCI express. ..none of which your MB supports.

Sorry to say, but I recommend shopping for a complete new system or if you are savvy, build your own!
2011-05-25 15:44:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Might be easier to upgrade everything... PCI is like 1993 technology and looking for an upgrade for that is asking friends to look to see if they have anything left over in their closet or searching on ebay. There is just no winning here though as you would still be playing in 1993 - 1995 for game compatibility. There have been several tech upgrades to GFX cards since then. After PCI came AGP and after AGP came PCI-X and now what is current is PCI express. ..none of which your MB supports.

Sorry to say, but I recommend shopping for a complete new system or if you are savvy, build your own!

bolded for rebuttal

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yes, and i am getting a new gaming computer next Christmas/birthday... but for now, i at least need a graphics card to hold me off.

and my computer CAN play some games from this century... just only from the start, like this crappy disney roller coaster creator; and toontown online (with tons of lag, but it runs all right)

again, just give me an answer... is the graphics card i linked, the best one i'm going to find that is compatible?
2011-05-27 06:23:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


bolded for rebuttal

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yes, and i am getting a new gaming computer next Christmas/birthday... but for now, i at least need a graphics card to hold me off.

and my computer CAN play some games from this century... just only from the start, like this crappy disney roller coaster creator; and toontown online (with tons of lag, but it runs all right)

again, just give me an answer... is the graphics card i linked, the best one i'm going to find that is compatible?

Ahh.. Sorry, I didn't quite understand that from your original question.

No... you should be able to find one better than that and in stock. Is that your current card? I found quite a few PCI cards both at NewEgg as well as TigerDirect that would outperform that linked card. Just depends how much money you want to spend and if it will fit in your system since the card you linked to is a half length card. i.e. not sure if half length was a constraint in your particular system or not.
2011-05-27 15:50:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


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