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I've been thinking of this for a while..actually ever since the beta. I believe there should be two things done with how tempo is in the music sequencer. First one is quite simple there should be higher tempos. I think the max tempo isn't high enough. I don't want it to be super high but maybe make the max 320-360 maybe should be better. And the last one which is what I want more is the ability to change tempo within the individual blocks themselves. There are songs that vary in tempo at time like for example the Superman song it starts slow than it speeds up. Not every song has one set tempo basically. This would help a lot with making songs with different tempos within them. So what you think of the suggestions? (especially the last one)

2011-05-07 18:39:00 Author: TheManofSteel3kO Posts: 74

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I just there was 1000 max tempo, that'd be so freakin' awesome

2011-05-07 20:07:00 Author: Unknown User

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Yeah that would be crazy lol

2011-05-07 21:10:00 Author: TheManofSteel3kO Posts: 74

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i have even more uber idea... ability to control tempo with logic (analog signal) that would be hell neat specially for countdown things

2011-05-07 22:10:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Anything over 300bpm is basically just noise anyway, why bother? (yeah yeah gabbercore or speedcore or methcore or whatever the kids are calling it these days). As for variable tempo within a song, an old way of cheating this relies on a mathematical relationship between the tempos. Since LBP2 only quantizes 8 steps to the bar (as far as I know), you'll have to do your math accordingly. So for half speed, you'd just stretch one bar over two. Doing 3/4 speed is a little trickier, because it'll offset the rest of the song by half a bar. 1/4 is very simple, stretch over four bars. Or do the reverse, of course. Whichever makes more sense at the time. Switching time signatures is a little harder.

2011-05-08 01:47:00 Author: roux- Posts: 379

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I'm pretty happy with the tempo allowances in LBP (except when I start trying to write 6/4, *shudders*) BUT I'd love a basic version of navigation markers (like a Coda) so that I can have more control over looping certain sections. I know I can just put them in twice, but I'm thinking specifically of introductions, so that I can set the song to loop not from the beginning but after say, a two-bar intro. that would be lovely

2011-05-08 02:33:00 Author: rialrees Posts: 1015

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Yeah I agree with a lot of the stuff said up there. I really wish you could change the time signature to make transposing other music easier, also having tempos speed up would also be nice, I've actually tried mimicing it a few times, but it's just not the same. And the reason that the timing doesn't go above 250 bpm is because that's the limit in actual music as well. If you look at a metronome it only goes us to like the Prestissimo (I think) section then it just turns into noise, at least on my electric metronome that's what happens. So as nice as it may be, I'm not sure they want to blatantly trample on a general rule in music haha

2011-05-08 04:57:00 Author: Jayhawk_er Posts: 403

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I like all the suggestions and points made by everyone. And I did realize you could work your way around this but it wouldn't hurt to have tempo controlled easier a bit just saying. However, I think the suggestions and points made do point towards we don't really need to make changes to the music sequencer as of yet. Although I would like some natural instruments and better sounding instruments

2011-05-08 05:06:00 Author: TheManofSteel3kO Posts: 74

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Yeah I agree with a lot of the stuff said up there. I really wish you could change the time signature to make transposing other music easier, also having tempos speed up would also be nice, I've actually tried mimicing it a few times, but it's just not the same. And the reason that the timing doesn't go above 250 bpm is because that's the limit in actual music as well. If you look at a metronome it only goes us to like the Prestissimo (I think) section then it just turns into noise, at least on my electric metronome that's what happens. So as nice as it may be, I'm not sure they want to blatantly trample on a general rule in music haha That's because metronomes are, like much music, stuck in tradition. Mechanical metronomes can't tick that fast--but computers can. There is 250+BPM stuff floating around out there. It sounds like a wall of dumb noise to me but eh.

2011-05-08 09:36:00 Author: roux- Posts: 379

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Yeah I agree. I got a music piece "Requim for a Dream" and it just didn't feel the same because it didnt change tempo.

2011-05-08 12:29:00 Author: craigmond Posts: 2426

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