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i cannot connect to the servers in LBP2 ! i get this error 0x80710a06 . I tried googling it but nothing came up!! help me please?2011-04-21 05:58:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


I don't know but I have not been able to log in to lbp.me for one day now. I am sent to a screen thay says servers are under maintenance.2011-04-21 06:37:00

Author:
Monster
Posts: 180


I have the same error. Not sure exactly where it is from. I downloaded the latest LBP update (which I've heard causes problems) and also got the latest PSH update. I don't know how to fix it, but I'm working on it, and hopefully will have it fixed soon. I'll let you know as soon as I do.2011-04-21 07:12:00

Author:
Madafaku
Posts: 738


I have the same error. Not sure exactly where it is from. I downloaded the latest LBP update (which I've heard causes problems) and also got the latest PSH update. I don't know how to fix it, but I'm working on it, and hopefully will have it fixed soon. I'll let you know as soon as I do.
hmm well, i guess it's good to know i'm not the only one. When i first opened LBP2 today, it said cannot load your profile, so i tried again and i got that error...
And what is the PSH update?
2011-04-21 07:27:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


Just wondering, but is anyone else getting a log-in error msg (80710A06) for the PSN right now? My connection was working fine for me this morning, and now bupkis. i've tried shutting down the modem, router, and PS3, and then starting up again, but nothing doing. Is the network under maintenance or something?2011-04-21 08:21:00

Author:
waffleking23
Posts: 535


Just wondering, but is anyone else getting a log-in error msg (80710A06) for the PSN right now? My connection was working fine for me this morning, and now bupkis. i've tried shutting down the modem, router, and PS3, and then starting up again, but nothing doing. Is the network under maintenance or something?

Yeah, I got this too. I think it must be under maintenance or at least it's the problem is only with PSN.
2011-04-21 08:25:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


I was just going to post this same kind of thread...kinda sucked cuz it kicked me offline while in pod with friends :2011-04-21 08:31:00

Author:
L1GhTmArE
Posts: 519


Well, if it's a maintenance issue, i'll just wait it out...

thanks for your quick replies, folks!
2011-04-21 08:48:00

Author:
waffleking23
Posts: 535


http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/20/update-on-psn-service-outages-2/2011-04-21 08:52:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Got the same code here too on Tuesday, so I worked offline on my level instead. But I didn't manage to get onto my PS3 yesterday to check.

It also seems the whole of PSN is down and which seems to be a common thing lately, so I can't even log in to the lbp.me site or official Sony PSN site either as they're linked for the past two days.

UPDATE: Seen on eurogamer that its down for EU and possibly US (possible maintenance 'again', rolls eyes) From comments it seems to be a global thing.
2011-04-21 10:27:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


I just looked on the Eurogamer site. It seems South Africa and Australia are also down along with the EU and USA.
Something fishy is going on i believe.
2011-04-21 11:28:00

Author:
RtooDee2
Posts: 175


I couldn't log in yesterday with auto but signed in manually. But it was very slow loading everyone up onto the friends list
EDIT: Can't sign in at all now
2011-04-21 11:31:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


Been having this problem today, Haven't been able to log in all night. Good to know this isn't only happening to me.2011-04-21 12:16:00

Author:
Bluephantom575
Posts: 142


Forum/general stuff/general gamingAnonymous hacking group are targeting Sony sites PSN


Check out this thread. I had heard about this a few weeks ago from Inanimacy but did not pay attention to it then. Could it be???
2011-04-21 12:49:00

Author:
gamegirl
Posts: 101


Forum/general stuff/general gamingAnonymous hacking group are targeting Sony sites PSN


Check out this thread. I had heard about this a few weeks ago from Inanimacy but did not pay attention to it then. Could it be???

i am fairly certain than anonymous stopped attacking the PlayStation network website because they realized that it would hurt their customers more than it would hurt Sony if the website was down
2011-04-21 13:13:00

Author:
darcyh
Posts: 191


Just checked PS3 official website. BIG announcement that their site is down for maintenance. Oh well, that other thread made for good reading anyway.2011-04-21 13:19:00

Author:
gamegirl
Posts: 101


I couldn't log in yesterday with auto but signed in manually. But it was very slow loading everyone up onto the friends list

Got exactly this yesterday.
2011-04-21 13:33:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


Ah....I was about to sign in for some stuff and this happens, eh, oh well, waiting it out I guess.2011-04-21 13:56:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Think it might be because they're releasing Steam on PS32011-04-21 13:56:00

Author:
Flamento
Posts: 352


Something is definitely up, check the Engadget link PlayStation Network down for a long count, what's up Sony? (http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/21/playstation-network-down-for-a-long-count-whats-up-sony/)

The comments alone says it all.
2011-04-21 15:28:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Finally have 2 hours of peace and solitude where I can relax with LBP2,
and wouldn't you know it...Can not log on to PSN

I wondered if anyone had/has this problem...
Found this:
http://kotaku.com/#!5794265/is-the-entire-playstation-network-down

Is The Entire PlayStation Network Down?
Can you log onto the PlayStation Network via your PS3 console at the moment? We can't, and we're getting reports plenty of other people can't either.

Attempts to log into the PSN on consoles are being met with the error message 80710A06. While American users began reporting the issue a few hours ago, I've since run into the same problem on my Australian unit and Brian's console in Japan can't connect either.

A small message was posted on the PlayStation Blog earlier today warning that "certain functions of PlayStation Network are down". If this is indeed global, and not some coincidence, the complete inability of people across the planet to sign into their accounts on a PS3 would seem to be a little more severe than that.

While Sony has yet to officially notify customers of the reasons behind the outage, activist group "Anonymous" has been claiming to have been behind attacks against the PlayStation Network for a few weeks now, and while the group's leadership has sworn off attacking Sony customers, there's no accounting for the actions of the individuals or splinter groups marching under the Anonymous banner. If this is indeed them, and the outage is affecting PS3 owners worldwide, that's one hell of an attack.

Or, you know, it could just be one hell of a technical hiccup!
2011-04-21 18:45:00

Author:
Unknown User


It's going to be down for up to 2 days. It's a problem in Japan.2011-04-21 18:58:00

Author:
IAmChavez
Posts: 142


ugh crap i was just about to publish a level
well thats life isnt it ?
ill publish it later
good that i know this
2011-04-21 19:03:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482


Finally have 2 hours of peace and solitude where I can relax with LBP2,
and wouldn't you know it...Can not log on to PSN

I wondered if anyone had/has this problem...
Found this:
http://kotaku.com/#!5794265/is-the-entire-playstation-network-down

Is The Entire PlayStation Network Down? [Update]Can you log onto the PlayStation Network via your PS3 console at the moment? We can't, and we're getting reports plenty of other people can't either.

Attempts to log into the PSN on consoles are being met with the error message 80710A06. While American users began reporting the issue a few hours ago, I've since run into the same problem on my Australian unit and Brian's console in Japan can't connect either.

A small message was posted on the PlayStation Blog earlier today warning that "certain functions of PlayStation Network are down". If this is indeed global, and not some coincidence, the complete inability of people across the planet to sign into their accounts on a PS3 would seem to be a little more severe than that.

While Sony has yet to officially notify customers of the reasons behind the outage, activist group "Anonymous" has been claiming to have been behind attacks against the PlayStation Network for a few weeks now, and while the group's leadership has sworn off attacking Sony customers, there's no accounting for the actions of the individuals or splinter groups marching under the Anonymous banner. If this is indeed them, and the outage is affecting PS3 owners worldwide, that's one hell of an attack.

Or, you know, it could just be one hell of a technical hiccup!


MY thoughts:
Sony has found an excuse to start charging for use of PSN
2011-04-21 19:06:00

Author:
Unknown User


MY thoughts:
Sony has found an excuse to start charging for use of PSN

Why would Sony **** off it's customers to get more money out of them? That makes no sense. Also, Sony already charges for premium access to its network through PS+.

Anyways, with the PSN down for up to several days, this will definitely give some of us a little pent-up nerdrage.
2011-04-21 19:33:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


I'm having exactly the same problem, in fact I haven't been able to login all day. Oh well.2011-04-21 19:42:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


Finally have 2 hours of peace and solitude where I can relax with LBP2,
and wouldn't you know it...Can not log on to PSN
okay i couldnt help laughing while reading that.
youre really ****** if thats occurs
2011-04-21 19:57:00

Author:
nysudyrgh
Posts: 5482


...Also, Sony already charges for premium access to its network through PS+.

Anyways, with the PSN down for up to several days, this will definitely give some of us a little pent-up nerdrage.

Isn't your PSN sign in and PS+ linked. So my question is if those paying for this access to PS+ can they still sign in? Has this affected both PSN and PS+ users? Just wondering as it's the same network isn't it?

I'll be me working on my level offline then.
2011-04-21 21:31:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Oh, why? I want my Portal 2 co-op!2011-04-21 21:52:00

Author:
Edeslash
Posts: 135


I keep saying this, but it seems like people don't get it:

Anonymous doesn't care about Sony, or anyone else. All 6 billion+ people on the planet are their sworn foes.

Face it, they hate us, they hate Sony, they hate everyone.

(Sorry for the rant-ish post, I had to get it off my chest)
2011-04-21 22:02:00

Author:
Jaymes_Keller
Posts: 27


Something is definitely up, check the Engadget link PlayStation Network down for a long count, what's up Sony? (http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/21/playstation-network-down-for-a-long-count-whats-up-sony/)

The comments alone says it all.

Lol at some of the nerdrage comments...
2011-04-21 22:14:00

Author:
Unknown User


Me too, I laughed at the comments. lol. Sometimes I think a bunch of monkeys are overseeing the network and that reminds me of a certain episode of the Simpsons.2011-04-21 22:28:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Darn, whatever I'll create offline... Sigh can't do my normal stuff...2011-04-21 22:54:00

Author:
BonBonBoi
Posts: 246


Think it might be because they're releasing Steam on PS3

Hmm, actually, that's not such a farfetchedhttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/83.pngpossibility, considering is right as Portal 2 released.
Tho I'm not sure, you'd think they would announce something like that...yet again, it IS PSN, so can't be sure either way.
2011-04-21 23:22:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


They already said why it's down a couple hours ago.2011-04-21 23:56:00

Author:
IAmChavez
Posts: 142


Ditto. It probably has something to do with HAARP. >.>

Oh well, at least I can create my own bit's of awesomeness without being online. Heck, now is a GREAT time to create... you won't have to keep rejecting invites and feel badly about it.
2011-04-22 00:02:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Eh, some say anon isn't claiming o have anything to do with this, some say they are behind this.
Ah, whatever, I don't care if they did it or not, just fix it already.

Here, another article:

[quote]
PlayStation Network Down For a Day (or Two)

Sony is currently investigating the cause of a network outage.

By Jared Newman (http://www.pcworld.com/author/Jared-Newman), Technologizer (http://technologizer.com/) Apr 21, 2011 4:59 pm
http://zapp5.staticworld.net/news/graphics/219930-psn-ban-logo_180.jpgSony's Playstation Network is down, and it may not come back up for a couple of days, according to the official Playstation Blog (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/21/latest-update-on-psn-outage/).
"While we are investigating the cause of the Network outage, we wanted to alert you that it may be a full day or two before we're able to get the service completely back up and running," Sony spokesman Patrick Seybold wrote.
Europe's Playstation blog previously said (http://ps3.gamespy.com/articles/116/1163300p1.html) the company was investigating "the possibility of targeted behavior by an outside party," but that message has since been removed. Hacking group Anonymous, which attacked Sony's servers earlier this month (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/04/source-anonymous-attacks-on-sony-annoying-not-much-more.ars), claims no involvement.
Talk about terrible timing. This week saw the launch of Mortal Kombat, Portal 2 and SOCOM 4, all of which have an online component. SOCOM 4 is a Playstation 3 exclusive geared mainly towards online play, and includes big incentives to buy the game new (http://technologizer.com/2011/04/18/sony-socom-pro-used-game-punishment/). In addition to disabling online play, the PSN outage affects the Qriocity music service, Netflix, MLB.tv and any other service requiring a PSN login.
Still, this isn't quite as severe as the PSN problems that occurred in March 2010, when a leap year issue caused some users to lose data just by turning on their consoles. Sony didn't relay that message to its customers (http://technologizer.com/2010/03/01/the-psn-problem-or-how-sony-got-scooped-by-its-own-customers/) until 16 hours after the first reports emerged.[/quote


Source:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/225943/playstation_network_down_for_a_day_or_two.html
2011-04-22 00:19:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Just signed on to steam, at the account log in page, theres a new option for PS3 Sync or something.

Its most likely just large, unscheduled maintnence, but Steam is pretty big, and could take some time to get on the servers too.
I guess we will find out soon enough.
2011-04-22 00:35:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


Right as Sping Break starts! Just my luck...2011-04-22 01:51:00

Author:
Super_Clone
Posts: 849


I'm away on business and haven't been able to access LBP.me since yesterday. Oh well, I tend to mainly create, so if its still down when I get home this weekend, no bug deal. I can create offline, so I'm still good.2011-04-22 04:25:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230


Seems like a big build up to Sony saying they have to charge a fee...
I do not wish it to happen, but it would make for a convenient excuse.
(I subscribe to all conspiracy theories...such as
inflated gas prices are bogus, all politicians refuse to learn from the past,etc)
2011-04-22 04:33:00

Author:
Unknown User


PSNetwork will be down for a day or two. Figures, right when I finish my new level 2011-04-22 04:36:00

Author:
UberOrbPS
Posts: 290


i been hearing people say that Anonymous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29) is responsible for this problem2011-04-22 05:04:00

Author:
wait wtf
Posts: 853


PSN is down in EU and US, they were hacked by someone...2011-04-22 05:51:00

Author:
YEAH_NAH
Posts: 775


what's happening? is PSN getting hacked?2011-04-22 06:12:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


@Onii55: Yes, I am firm in the belief that it is getting hacked. That's just me, though. The reality may be completely different.2011-04-22 09:34:00

Author:
Jaymes_Keller
Posts: 27


I just had a scary thought.
What if whoever 'hacked' (and im starting to believe this) into the server has done so much damage...
...when we do go back online. EVERYTHING is erased!?
All of our levels and hard work gone?
Dont want to be an alarmist here.
2011-04-22 09:53:00

Author:
RtooDee2
Posts: 175


PSN is down in EU and US, they were hacked by someone...


what's happening? is PSN getting hacked?


@Onii55: Yes, I am firm in the belief that it is getting hacked. That's just me, though. The reality may be completely different.

Haha, I'd believe that, IF it was something more minor, but you're giving them too much credit if you ask me.
2011-04-22 11:11:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I just had a scary thought.
What if whoever 'hacked' (and im starting to believe this) into the server has done so much damage...
...when we do go back online. EVERYTHING is erased!?
All of our levels and hard work gone?
Dont want to be an alarmist here.
They would have had to hack into LBP's server to have done that, which I doubt they have.
2011-04-22 11:11:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


I just had a scary thought.
What if whoever 'hacked' (and im starting to believe this) into the server has done so much damage...
...when we do go back online. EVERYTHING is erased!?
All of our levels and hard work gone?
Dont want to be an alarmist here.

I don't meant to offend, and don't take this statement to personal, but you really got a lot to learn on how all that works, m8.

(Specially "Hacking" as people seem to think all hackers have absolute control over all machines everywhere, and of all the internet. xD )
2011-04-22 11:20:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


LittleBigPodcaster guys were saying that the hackers are going to give PSN back if you put in your credit card details (Which idiot would fall for this?). Not Sony asking for the details.2011-04-22 11:38:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


Nope, Im not offended m8.
I guess i just watch to many movies.
Oh...and i wasn't that serious to start with.
With the network down for this length of time i start to have crazy thoughts (That i should keep to myself i guess)
My apologies. Soz.
2011-04-22 13:05:00

Author:
RtooDee2
Posts: 175


Right when the vacation starts, and right when I finish the Jukebox XI >_<2011-04-22 13:17:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450


Well done. Mess everything up at spring break. (The anger speaking).2011-04-22 13:22:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


Just saw this on youtube, the LittleBigPodcast guys are saying that Anon said they will give PSN back if people agree to put their credit card details back in Though I think its just speculation. And Sony haven't given a proper reason either

That don't sound right I don't think sony would do that.
2011-04-22 13:42:00

Author:
zerotiger99
Posts: 101


Just saw this on youtube, the LittleBigPodcast guys are saying that Anon said they will give PSN back if people agree to put their credit card details back in Though I think its just speculation. And Sony haven't given a proper reason either

I'd advise you get your news from various gaming websites with reputable reporters and news staff. Internet rumors are just that.

The EU Playstation blog originally reported (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/712038/sony-reports-massive-psn-outage-could-be-attack/) that that the network outage may involve "the possibility of targeted behaviour by an outside party."

However, there has been no official announcement from Sony regarding the actual cause of the issue. You're correct: they're not saying much else at this point.
2011-04-22 13:44:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


I still reckon a bunch of monkeys are over seeing the network:

http://www.gameinformer.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer-Components-ImageFileViewer/CommunityServer-Components-UserFiles-00-00-59-13-19-Attached+Files/7433.monkey-typing-simpsons.jpg-.jpg_2D00_610x0.jpg

Ha ha
2011-04-22 14:17:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Now when I try to sign in manually, it says it's under going maintenance.2011-04-22 14:31:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


The f? littlebigpodcast said do not enter your credit card info? mine is already on there!!! wtf do i do?!2011-04-22 14:42:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


Right now, no one in the world can log in to PSN, at all. Its down for maintenance. On LBP.me, if you check the most recent level it was published over a day ago, and every single recent activity page shows that the last interaction happened a day ago as well.2011-04-22 14:47:00

Author:
ATMLVE
Posts: 1177


Sony are just doing something with the PSN. Thats all, it will be back up later today or tomorrow.2011-04-22 15:14:00

Author:
dyna
Posts: 260


Ignore the children on LBPodcast... there is no evidence of that what-so-ever. They are spreading rumors.2011-04-22 15:16:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


what's happening? is PSN getting hacked?

Not at the moment. Just confirmed with a packet sniffer to find out what's actually happening.

Upon attempting to sign in to the PSN (at least in the UK), the PS3 first requests this file (http://fuk01.ps3.update.playstation.net/update/ps3/list/uk/ps3-updatelist.txt) hosted at Akamai (http://www.akamai.com/), which contains information on the latest firmware update, and where to download it from, which works correctly.

After that it attempts to connect via a secure connection to a page on this server (https://auth.np.ac.playstation.net/) hosted at Prolexic (http://www.prolexic.com/), which also works correctly, albeit just to tell the PS3 that the PSN is down. If it were being DDoS'd you wouldn't get that reply.

Now, Sony have only recently moved the PSN authentication service to machines at Prolexic which are much more resilient to DDoS attacks. There's a fairly good explanation of the SYN flooding variants here (http://www.grc.com/r&d/nomoredos1.htm), and what can be done to prevent them.

Even with a syncookies-type solution, a large amount of valid web-based traffic can still cause excessive database load, but fortunately, the authentication process is encrypted and unspoofable, so all they need to do is have a relatively large webserver cluster at Prolexic which discards all bogus sign-in attempts, and passes the valid ones on to the PSN authentication system. The result is, PSN can't really be attacked any more through this vector.

However, there are still a few remaining attack vectors, most notably the web-based interface to the sign-in system used on store.playstation.com which can be spoofed, and thus put a huge strain on their database servers, but that system is not currently operational, so it must've been deliberately taken offline by someone at Sony.

From Sony's comments, all they've really said so far is that the downtime was unexpected, and assuming that's true, we still don't know whether their reasons for disabling the PSN was due to an earlier attack by an external group or some idiot at Sony accidentally pressing the wrong button.

Either way, no-one's attacking the system right now.
2011-04-22 15:18:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


Ignore the children on LBPodcast... there is no evidence of that what-so-ever. They are spreading rumors.

I hope so man, i bettter of dying then getting my credit card details stolen. parents will kill me :S
2011-04-22 15:19:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


I think somebody at Sony fed a couple Mogwai a little bit too late in the evening... yep thats right, Psn is being attacked from inside... by Gremlins. Anybody know any 80`s movies stars? We will be needing an expert.2011-04-22 15:30:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


Perhaps someone just tripped over five plugs then split coffee everywhere?2011-04-22 15:52:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


I hope so man, i bettter of dying then getting my credit card details stolen. parents will kill me :S

You've got nothing to worry about
2011-04-22 16:37:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Anoymous is no longer attack sony. So its not hackers

I tried to sign in throught PSN earlier today and the message that comes with it is no longer an error message. Just a "PSN is currently undergoing Maintnence"
No need to worry now

Anywhoo, This is a major setback in level creation contests such as the MTG contest. Im pretty sure theyll give everyone another few weeks or days, depending on how long the servers are down, So I wouldnt worry about that.
2011-04-22 19:23:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


I can't get my Skate 3 Team Graphics for my Team.

Hopefully Sony sorts this out SOON. This is what they're getting paid to do, anyway!

:SH:
2011-04-22 21:08:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769


PS3s were being slow so Sony are trying to update all ps3 systems in 3 days, its on their website!2011-04-22 21:37:00

Author:
Squidge99
Posts: 203


I wonder if this will fix the problem with the NA DLC issue. Probably not, but still. Us NA people can hope. 2011-04-22 21:40:00

Author:
ConverseFox
Posts: 2333


I think somebody at Sony fed a couple Mogwai a little bit too late in the evening... yep thats right, Psn is being attacked from inside... by Gremlins. Anybody know any 80`s movies stars? We will be needing an expert.

I can see if I can get Teen Wolf on the line... or maybe those kids from the Lost Boys movies... well, minus Corey Haim at any rate.
2011-04-22 21:50:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


I think somebody at Sony fed a couple Mogwai a little bit too late in the evening... yep thats right, Psn is being attacked from inside... by Gremlins. Anybody know any 80`s movies stars? We will be needing an expert.
Protip: Don't use water!

Hacker groups are like trolls, just ignore them and they will go away.
Plus the more you mention them, the stronger they get. Like Justin Beiber. Probably not the correct spelling but I don't care!
2011-04-22 22:10:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


Yo. Bet it down on every country. It must be huge failure or evil hackers somewhat set psn offline so that they proberly set their America's special stuffs like Qore cap and slurpee packs online to UK or other junk munk...2011-04-22 22:12:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293


aww psp wont work either it said for 2 days error 80550386 and im hearing it was a group of hackers source of info is i think IGN.com. please someone tell me the whole story2011-04-23 01:42:00

Author:
Unknown User


The f? littlebigpodcast said do not enter your credit card info? mine is already on there!!! wtf do i do?!

Not care.
Those kids have less knowledge about the matter than an old Amish guy. xD

They probably think they got "good info" because they run a podcast, but are probably completely clueless about the matter themselves...
2011-04-23 02:51:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Not care.
Those kids have less knowledge about the matter than an old Amish guy. xD

They probably think they got "good info" because they run a podcast, but are probably completely clueless about the meter themselves...

The metric system, LittleBigPodcast knows nothing of it.

Any updates?
2011-04-23 03:05:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


The metric system, LittleBigPodcast knows nothing of it.

Any updates?

Touche.
Also, last time I tried to log in (A few hours ago.) The "PSN is under Maintenance" message was still popping up, so I don't think so.
Anyone else checked more recently?
2011-04-23 03:38:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Touche.
Also, last time I tried to log in (A few hours ago.) The "PSN is under Maintenance" message was still popping up, so I don't think so.
Anyone else checked more recently?

Checked a minute a go.

It's still down and out.
2011-04-23 03:39:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/

So turning off PSN because of being haxed = not being haxed but rather calling it "unscheduled maintenance"

I see what you did there, Sony...
2011-04-23 04:10:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


Haha! We are Sony, nothing can hurt us Haha!

But you got haxed...?

Unscheduled maintenance my dear friend!
2011-04-23 04:23:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


Doung a traceroute to the PSN servers runs you through the servers to the prolexic server. The prolexic server then tells your PS3 that PSN is down. If the servers were deep sixed or under any kind of attack that would prevent them from operating, they would not direct you to the prolexic servers. The traceroute would end, incomplete, at the PSN server port. This is NOT an attack.

I am BEYOND furious with Sony. THey keep their cunsumers in an informational void for two days, and then pass the buck on Anonymous, just as I predicted in two previous posts, despite the fact that Anonymous has not laid claim to the attack (Something Anonymous ALWAYS does, for good reason). They are having hardware issues of some kind- ANonymous is not in any way involved, they just make convenient scapegoats. Couple this to a distinct lack of updates, going eighteen hours or more without any information whatsoever and the fact that they TURNED OFF theur customer service hotline (It redirects straight to an automated answer system- You can't even press 0 to talk to a person), and it cement's Sony's reputation as having the worst customer service department in the industry.

Microsoft had an issue half as bad as this a while back and the users got a free game because of it. I guarantee we will see nothing of the sort, not even for PLUS users who are paying for a service they cannot use, from Sony.
2011-04-23 05:19:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Gah... I sure hope they'll be up by tommorow.2011-04-23 05:19:00

Author:
Captain
Posts: 92


It's not such a big deal, is it?

Play offline.
If you need to talk to someone, use a different device.
2011-04-23 05:31:00

Author:
tomodon246
Posts: 624


. ^ Lol that was funny2011-04-23 05:36:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745


It's not such a big deal, is it?

Play offline.
If you need to talk to someone, use a different device.

That's the thing I want to know, why is it such a big deal? Some people are going completely insane over the issue and it all just screams "I have false sense of entitlement about this corporation!"
It's just a gaming service.. And a free one at that. Unless you pay for PSN or Qriocity's music service, and even then, it shouldn't get people as upset as they are. With all the things happening in the world you'd think "PSN is down" would be the least likely to send people into a fit. :/

Just go outside? Play offline? Maybe.. do something else, other than play PS3? I don't know. Regardless, I do hope it comes back tomorrow so I can get back to chatting with people while playing a game.
2011-04-23 05:41:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


Doung a traceroute to the PSN servers runs you through the servers to the prolexic server. The prolexic server then tells your PS3 that PSN is down. If the servers were deep sixed or under any kind of attack that would prevent them from operating, they would not direct you to the prolexic servers. The traceroute would end, incomplete, at the PSN server port. This is NOT an attack.
Microsoft had an issue half as bad as this a while back and the users got a free game because of it. I guarantee we will see nothing of the sort, not even for PLUS users who are paying for a service they cannot use, from Sony.

You have many good points in your statement, and bring up a good query...namely, what *could* they offer us?
We already have free playtime on their network.
Perhaps they can reward us all with one free month of service when they start charging a monthly fee?
2011-04-23 06:17:00

Author:
Unknown User


trahc, two things:

1: Its not a "false sense of entitlement". People who are paying for a service are entiteld to that service. What if your electric company turned off your power but continued to charge you for the service? Its a bit mroe exaggerated of an example but its the same concept. People who pay fees for individual games' online functions, like Dead Space 2, are also entitled to be able to use the feature since they are paying for it.

2: Simple, give us a free game of some kind. Some sort of compensation for it. But of course, as I had stated long before they blamed "an intrusion" occurred, the smart PR move is to blame the conveniently placed scapegoats of Anonymous, so it won't be Sony's fault, and thus they will not be obliged to compensate its enraged userbase and we'll just have to accept the fact that we got bent over the barrel and provided a lame excuse for the downtime. Once PSN is back up, Sony will just go "lol anonymous" and pretend ALL of its online functions never went offline at all, when this is a BS claim.
2011-04-23 07:21:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Oh, come on, it's been 3~4 days now. And only just now, they've admitted that it was hackers and not much else. And they probably already knew. Why do I state this? Because for a short time, on the EU Playstation blog, the same thing had been announced - the involvement of an "external party". And that was like two days ago. It's not their outage that bothers me (i've been keeping myself entertained without games at all) - humans make mistakes, they happen. But it's the fact that they flat-out lie to their customers and keep all information hidden in an attempt to keep the community calm (while it had the opposite effect), and to make sure their reputation didn't get harmed (which it did). Bad move on Sony's part.

Also, to you guys talking about Anonymous.. Have you actually read Sony's messages thoroughly? Sony says it has been an external party.. But they did not, in any way, shape, or form in their messages, blame Anonymous for it! That's just what the community (and the news sites) made of it, and now you guys are complaining that it comes in quite handy for Sony.. Well yes, but that's your fault, because YOU blamed it on Anonymous while there could be countless other hacker groups who have done it. Sony didn't.

Could you atleast check out my latest project for LBP2 which i'm anxious to release?:
https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=55439-Jukebox-XI-A-cartridge-based-multimedia-player-%28Pictures!%29-%28Not-just-music%29
2011-04-23 07:39:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450


It went down Wednesday evening. So that 2 maybe 3 days depending on how you count.
You can't blame them for first making sure what is actually causing the problem. They did say on Thursday already that they were considering that it was caused by outsides.
2011-04-23 07:50:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Just go outside? Maybe.. do something else, other than play PS3?

HAHAHA Thats funny!! XD
NEVER!!!
2011-04-23 07:53:00

Author:
Jovuto
Posts: 2345


@Syroc: It was down for me starting Wednesday morning already (i'm in a different timezone). I haven't had PSN for 4 days.
They did, but then they removed it again - according to a few news sources, which could be wrong. But they seemed to be hiding it, not looking for what the problem was - it seemed like they already KNEW what the problem was.
2011-04-23 07:54:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450


To be honest I don't see how not talking about something publicly equates to not doing something about it in the background. Yes, you can say that they could have informed customers more, but would that information have changed anything for you and me?2011-04-23 07:57:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Well, at least then we would know exactly what was going on and could roughly estimate that way on how long it would take.2011-04-23 07:59:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450


Anonymous or not, when Sony says "External party" they know their userbase is going to go ballistic and point the fingers at anonymous, who had already done such an attack and threatened more. They dont HAVE to say "ANONYMOUS DID IT!"- the implication that an outside party may have been involved is ehough to inspire the PSN userbase to break out their torches and pitchforks and hunt down the sales records for every place that sells Guy Fawkes masks (Which not all Anons wear, by the way- Just the Scientology protesters).

Also, anonymous or not, you still have yet to refute the undeniable proof that this is not an attack in any way shape or form. If you dont believe, me, do a traceroute yourselves and you'll find the PSN servers are operating just fine- Their functions have just been halted. In short, the only thing wrong with the servers is that PSN is, well, off. ANy sort of attack would A: Block communications between the server and all other devices it is linked with, or B: Actually shut down the servers. Thats what an attack is. As I have said, the traceroute not only successfully communicates with the PSN servers not once, but TWICE, in a single traceroute. Once when you initially try to access them and they defer to the Prolexic servers, and then the second time when the PSN servers tell you what the prolexic server told it to tell you (IE: PSN is off). Were this an attack, you would have zero communications with the PSN servers, or if you did, it would be horribly mangled and definitely not anything the server is supposed to be telling your PS3. Since the servers are quite healthy and fully operational, this is clearly not any sort of attack. This is a LIE, and Sony knows they will get away with it because most people dont know how to check behind them.
2011-04-23 08:11:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Why don't you tell us for what domain we have to use for the traceroute so we can check for ourselves?2011-04-23 08:17:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Hey, this is just a thread for all those who seem to be asking why the PSN is down as of Wednesday 21st April 2011.

So far, PSN has been down for two enitre days, and yet is remains down.
This is unlike Sony to have an expected mateiance just days after the release of Portal 2 and Mortal Kombat.

By following up some threads and comments posted other the past few days by Sony, the cause is most likely Anonymous. O.O

For those who don't know who Anonymous is, they are a group of well educated hackers that have managed to hack into many large coorpiations such as Sony in the past. They first hacked Sony when George Haltz hacked into the Iphone and tampered with it's software and allowing access to various applications and software from the internet. George then turned his attention to the PS3, and hacked right into it it's software, just like the Iphone and tampered with it do allow software from the internet to run on the PS3 and to play copied games.

The law states that it is not illegal for a person or persons to change/tamper with the software in a mobile device, hence the Iphone.
Georges point of hacking into Sony was to ask " What's the difference in hacking a Iphone and a PS3? ". He later commented on how it's not right that you aren't allowed to use the product as you buy it and make it your own as to how you wish. :/
Meaning, when you buy a product, it's yours. If you want to smash it with a hammer, you can do so. If you hack into it, you can do so.

Sony didn't like the way George handled his PS3 as his own, so they took him to court and pressed charges against him.
This is where Anonymous comes in, the hackers. They stick up for George and too have taken actions against Sony, hacking into their websites and causing the Playstation Store and PSN to be down. Anonymous have always given a warning in advance as to when they plan to attack, for one reason. By letting people know that they are planning an attack, Anonymous as able to tell people the point as to why the attack is happening. No advanced warning, no point, no attack.

Anonymous's reason for attacking Sony was using their reasons for charging George against them. They say that because they don't like the way they operate their websites and systems, they're taking actions against them. Sound Familar?

A few weeks back, In December I believe, they released videos, blogs and comments forwarning of an attack against Sony and they stated their reasons. The attack took place and then Anonymous decided to stop attacking after just a few hours. They said it was effecting the costumers more than Sony themselves which was not their goal, and was not inteneded, so until they find a method of hurting sony and not the consumers, they plan not to attack Sony.

Since then, Anonymous have sat quiet, silent. When the Outage began on Wednesday, 21st April 2011, most asummed it would have been Anonymous, they they denied it, which, in theory would be the truth. Anonymous only ever attacks after a warning beforehand, no warning, no attack, no reason.

Anonymous claims to be on our side, fighting for our rights and our freedom against Scientology, though I am nor in favor or against either Sony or Anonymous, this outage has lasted too long and it's beginning to have an effect on most gamers,

Sony has commented they will release for information as it is discovered, though on Wednesday they said it would take at most, a full day or two. It has been more than two days so something tells me this could last perhaps a week. All we can do is sit tight and wait for the network to come online.

As to the reasons for the PSN being down, was it Anonymous, another group of hackers or a employee of Sony pressing the wrong button?

Who know's, but that's the news so far.

Happy easter guys, enjoy it while it lasts, hope to see you all online soon.

RC.

"The first creation leads to the next"
2011-04-23 08:24:00

Author:
Unknown User


Why don't you tell us for what domain we have to use for the traceroute so we can check for ourselves?

198.107.157.132:5223

Its the only address I can find that seems to have any relevance with PSN. It should be noted that PSN's heartbeat seems to be at around the 300 mark so if your firewall is set up to reset before that you may not get a response.
2011-04-23 08:44:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Sony Confirms External Attack

Sony acknowledged today that its PlayStation Network online entertainment service was brought down by an external intrusion, according to a blog post this evening.

The network has 70 million registered users and it is Sony?s gateway to online entertainment on the PlayStation 3 and the PlayStation Portable. Frustrated users have been without service since Wednesday. Sony?s Qriocity music service was also attacked an brought down. Sony has kept the services off while it conducts an investigation into what happened.

Patrick Seybold, a spokesman for Sony, said in the post, ?An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share.?

On Friday, the hacker group Anonymous denied that it was to blame for the attack. Until now, Sony offered no explanation for the network outage, prompting some to wonder if it was related to Amazon.com?s crash of its cloud computing infrastructure, EC 2, which has also been down since yesterday. Sony had also updated its PlayStation Home virtual world for gamers with a version 1.5 update. And others wondered if hackers, who had been angry about Sony?s prosecution of hacker George ?GeoHot? Hotz, had found a way to ?jailbreak? Sony?s PS 3 so that users could download unauthorized or pirated software. Sony sued him for violating the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

But that case has been settled. And Anonymous, the hacker group that had attack Sony sites earlier, said it was not behind the shutdown. In fact, Anonymous said ?Sony is incompetent.? Still, an observer of the IRC forum used by members of Anonymous speculated that the attackers likely behind this current Sony outage appear to have learned their methods from Anonymous? activities of two weeks ago.
2011-04-23 09:46:00

Author:
Sabre_
Posts: 653


Except that Anonymous's attacks consisted primarily of targeted DDoS attacks, which caused spotty connectivity and lapses in service that lsted no longer than an hour each, whereas the current problem is global and the servers are offline for days now. I find it hard to believe someone found a way to deep six the servers (While still leaving them online and open to communications with external devices) by studying the activities of a group that merely did login spoofing and DDoSing. Sorry, you cant blame anonymous by proxy either.2011-04-23 10:01:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Except that Anonymous's attacks consisted primarily of targeted DDoS attacks, which caused spotty connectivity and lapses in service that lsted no longer than an hour each, whereas the current problem is global and the servers are offline for days now. I find it hard to believe someone found a way to deep six the servers (While still leaving them online and open to communications with external devices) by studying the activities of a group that merely did login spoofing and DDoSing. Sorry, you cant blame anonymous by proxy either.


You keep saying "anon didn't this and anon didn't that, while no one said anything about Anon.

You know, I really didn't suspect anon, but it probably is, for how some are unnecessarily defending it.
'Oh, Sony says its external, but we all know its Anon, or so they know we will think!"

No, they have not confirmed anyone, they just say "external source" and if they wanted an scapegoat they could just as easily said it was Anon.


Point is, they didn't.

So stop guarding Anon like they're heroes, they're not, there are gonna be different anona all the time, some are stupid, some are greedy, some may be with the people, but mostly are gonna be idiots who feel overpower because they won't show their faces.

If anon needs to defend itself, it will, who's to say some anon didn't, but a different anon group did?
I mean, they're ANONYMOUS, there's no real way to prove who's who by simple methods or at first glance.

So yeah, stop defending the hackers already, will ya?
As much as I like good hackers, whoever's doing this isn't doing it "for th people" but for themselves trying to feel like hotshot hackers that "can fight SONY."
2011-04-23 11:44:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


It seems strange to me that Sony would be vulnerable to such a large scale hacking attack that would keep their network offline for so long. Because of this, I thought it was an internal error at Sony, but then they said that it was an external attack. They could be lying though.

This logically makes one consider Anonymous. But, people say, they issued a statement saying it wasn't them. First, who is "they" in that statement? People like to pretend that Anonymous is indeed a real, organized organisation, but it isn't; "Anonymous" is probably mostly composed of sad little kids with computers who contribute to DDoS attacks to feel all special and powerful, who then say they are part of "Anonymous". Or sociopaths. The real problem people are the ones who control botnets and/or have real hacking skills; it could simply be these members who are perpetrating the attack apart from the rest of the group. Or Anonymous could be lying. Go figure.

Honestly, I hope it is Anonymous, as unlikely as that is, because if it isn't them, it could be real hackers with a motive that isn't just petty revenge, the kind that could steal all of the information stored on the PSN. I think Sony disabled the servers to prevent that from happening. If that is the case, the servers could be offline for a lot longer than a few days. The only question is, who has the skill and the motivation to do this?

Due to proximity to the release of Portal 2, which makes use of online play, I dub this: The GLaDDoS Attack.
2011-04-23 14:31:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276


Sony Confirms External Attack
to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share.?

I wish they would tell us HOW we will be kept informed
Do we have to keep dilligently searching ?
Sony should have a site easy to locate which updates hourly at the least
2011-04-23 14:41:00

Author:
Unknown User


I'm usually creating by myself anyways, this isn't too much of a problem.... for me...
you on the other hand are going to find it's deadliness... a lot less funny.
2011-04-23 14:51:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


So...is it back up?2011-04-23 15:10:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


So...is it back up?

Yes.





.







...not.

Everyone keeps asking if it's back up, trust me, there's really no reason to. As soon as it goes back up I can guarantee you it will be all over the internet in an instant. You won't miss it.
2011-04-23 15:12:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


trahc, two things:

1: Its not a "false sense of entitlement". People who are paying for a service are entiteld to that service. What if your electric company turned off your power but continued to charge you for the service? Its a bit mroe exaggerated of an example but its the same concept. People who pay fees for individual games' online functions, like Dead Space 2, are also entitled to be able to use the feature since they are paying for it.

2: Simple, give us a free game of some kind. Some sort of compensation for it. But of course, as I had stated long before they blamed "an intrusion" occurred, the smart PR move is to blame the conveniently placed scapegoats of Anonymous, so it won't be Sony's fault, and thus they will not be obliged to compensate its enraged userbase and we'll just have to accept the fact that we got bent over the barrel and provided a lame excuse for the downtime. Once PSN is back up, Sony will just go "lol anonymous" and pretend ALL of its online functions never went offline at all, when this is a BS claim.

1:
Except it's free. You're not paying for any service. Even IF you are a PS+ member, you still are not paying for PSN. You're paying for a service that rewards you with discounts, some free stuff every week, and early/ automatic content and updates. Nothing you, as a PS+ member, ever goes into the actual service, which remains free.

2:
Sony owes us nothing. They are not in any way, shape, or form required to give you anything more than an apology, which you've gotten multiple times. If they had someone intrude their servers and thus, your information, your compensation should be the peace of mind that by investing in Sony (purchasing the PS3) you have invested in a company that will shut everything down to figure out what happened and prevent data from being found, stolen, and/ or tampered with.
Also that had security and did more than just throw up their arms and go "I dunno!" like so many other companies have done when data is compromised. (Exapmle: Gawker Media when "anonymous" attacked and stole user information to defend Julian Assange, the kind of twisted logic you defend so adamantly.)

Also never, at any point, did Sony ever even imply that "anonymous" ever did anything. They confirmed an external intrusion. It just so happens that the largest group constantly threatening such a thing was "anonymous," so no **** they are going to catch the ire of every gamer. When you threaten to take down Sony, and then it actually happens, it's kind of hard to back peddle that and say you had nothing to do with it.

As for the downtime itself, if it is related to security issues, then why has no one given consideration to the possibility that authorities are involved and so Sony needs the time to both correct these issues so that they never happen again and gather evidence?
2011-04-23 15:14:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


I wish they would tell us HOW we will be kept informed
Do we have to keep dilligently searching ?
Sony should have a site easy to locate which updates hourly at the least
Like the official (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/04/21/update-on-psn-service-outages/) PS blogs (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/04/23/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/) for example? Or the threads in the official forums (http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network/PSN-Outage-Saturday-23rd-April-2011-80710A06/m-p/12758774?WT.mc_id=TSO_EN_103)? Or various Twitter accounts (http://twitter.com/#!/PlayStationEU)?

...
2011-04-23 15:21:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


the whole psn server is down, it should be back up today, maybe tommorrow, but wheither or not that is true idk. syroc has a link to what psn posted, i suggest you check it out.2011-04-23 15:29:00

Author:
Unknown User


A hacking group is apparently targeting PSN.

Why would they do this? Publicity? No.

They have Xboxes, so they can't get LBP. Hehehheheh
2011-04-23 15:51:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319


More information from Sony about the server downtime:

An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/
2011-04-23 15:52:00

Author:
Godzilla
Posts: 224


THIS IS OFFICAL PSN HAS BEEN HACKED CHECK THIS LINKhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/226128/sony_makes_it_official_playstation_network_hacked. html/2011-04-23 16:07:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


Whats back up? PSN still doesn't work for me?2011-04-23 16:12:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


@ Silverleon....LOL...knowing you the way I do, I KNOW you were joking. Too bad others did not...so for those of us who know you, the joke is on them!!!

Here is a link to Sony's information site which I am sure all of you have, but just in case someone does not,
http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/?a_id=2185

So please don't blast me if this has already been posted, I have read back as far as I have time for.
2011-04-23 16:21:00

Author:
gamegirl
Posts: 101


I don't see the big deal.
PSN is free and going with out it even for a week is nothing much.

people should count them selfs lucky that they can normally play online
everyday. people like me can't. i have gone whole months with out being able to play on PSN.
there is lots of other things to do and worry about. PSN will be back on soon enough and when it is
back up. you'll have forgotten all the days you were not on by then.
*mew
2011-04-23 16:36:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


could it be be Anonymous though thats the thing they say it not hem but could be someone from that group doing it2011-04-23 16:53:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


Nope.
still down.
2011-04-23 17:15:00

Author:
Unknown User


I don't see the big deal.
PSN is free and going with out it even for a week is nothing much.

people should count them selfs lucky that they can normally play online
everyday. people like me can't. i have gone whole months with out being able to play on PSN.
there is lots of other things to do and worry about. PSN will be back on soon enough and when it is
back up. you'll have forgotten all the days you were not on by then.
*mew

I agree.
Thing is, some of the younger crowd were off for school break and looked forward to the time off, hoping to do some PSN stuff...
Some are irritated that they spent hard earned monies to play some online games and feel ripped off.
I for one am glad that we have the freedom to come to this gathering place and discuss freely things that concern us without
being belittled or insulted for our words.
2011-04-23 18:36:00

Author:
Unknown User


I for one came down with something and have been feeling sick. All I wanted to do this weekend is sit down, relax, sleep and play LBP2. Doesnt look like that is going to happen this weekend. 2011-04-23 19:04:00

Author:
Godzilla
Posts: 224


You can still create offline.... that's what I've been doing. It makes almost no difference to me aside from the fact I can't hit publish to back up my work.2011-04-23 19:34:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


ive just played modnation racers and got all tokens and created 2 mods i want to publish wellat least im doing something2011-04-23 19:36:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


Well, at least then we would know exactly what was going on and could roughly estimate that way on how long it would take.

And how long WOULD it take if you new it was hax0rs?

I think Syroc is right. We just want to know what's going on, but it's not like the information changes anything.
2011-04-23 19:37:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


For me its a good thing im working on my new leafy glide level atm. if the psn was ON then i probably would have never started it.2011-04-23 20:13:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745


Hope it sorted within a week, has to be. I have hope that it might be mega huge PSN update or somewhat.2011-04-23 20:19:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293


1: And those people who have specific games that you must pay to play online? You still have yet to adress this issue.

2: So because its free, Sony doen't have to care about its userbase? We ARE the ones that buy games, plus memberships, and DLC off their store. Think of it this way, A person cannot get inside of a store, because the doors are locked, with more and more people arriving. THey get frustrated and have to stand there outside the door til someone notices the doors are still locked. Eventually, some of them goet so frustrated they call the store's manager and tell them to hurry up.

Now walking inside of the store is completely free and costs nothing, but the manager is highly likely to give each of them a gift card or coupon of some kind as recompense for whoever was working not unlocking the door. Not to mention that individual will likely be fired or at least scolded.

Why? Its economics and PR. Whether or not your customers generate a set revenue (Via a membership fee) they are still responsible for your profits. Your customers buy things from you, membership or not, and to make sure they CONTINUE to buy things from you, you have to keep them happy. Sony's userbase is NOT happy, and while sony is not obliged to compensate its userbase, it would be an extremely advisable move from a PR point of view, so that if an issue like this happens again, PS3 users will not get frustrated and trade in their PS3s, instead confident that once it blows over they will be compensated. If you think that wont happen, well, it already is. I was at gamestop and there were three people trading in their PS3s.

As for my rabid defense of ANonymous:
Sony's implication of a "third party" is clearly a reference to anonymous. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that sony knows its userbase will flip out and blame anonymous at the mere mention of hacking. And yes, Anonymous WAS mentioned- When it was said whoever did it may have learned from Anonymous (Thus blaming anonymous by proxy).

My defense of them is simply one means of conveying this isn't an attack. Its a lie. If you want to know why, read the whole thread, I'm not reposting every single thing thats been done to figure out what the issue is.
2011-04-23 20:20:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Heh....
I'll just make more waffles.
2011-04-23 20:22:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


1: And those people who have specific games that you must pay to play online? You still have yet to adress this issue.
And what game would that be? There is one, maybe two games that are subscription based.
2011-04-23 20:24:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


And the people that play them deserve compensation. They are paying for a service that is not being rendered.2011-04-23 20:30:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


And what game would that be? There is one, maybe two games that are subscription based.

DC Universe online and free realms premium membership.
2011-04-23 20:38:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


The reasons as to why PSN is down doesn't matter at this time. It's down, there is nothing you or I can do to change this, it's up to Sony now. When the PSN is online, it's more than likely Sony will be questioned as to what the cause was, and then we shall find out. As for now, we can only show Sony we are supporting them as they continue with the network issues and hope that it comes back online in the next few days.

I too miss being online, though it's not the end of the world.. Or is it?

Most players, if not all players, in this forum will own and enjoy LBP, so why not use the time to build a level you've been working on without interuptions?

And by the way, for an ealier post.. Something bout pulling plugs and spilling coffee, I believe sony is more of a Tea supporting company, so it would have been Tea, they spilt.
2011-04-23 20:38:00

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Unknown User


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On the subject of this thread.
If we didn't have people attacking organizations we wouldn't have this problem.
Whoever is doing this. >.> <.< They're not hurting Sony, they're hurting the users that just want to play online.
2011-04-23 20:47:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


I agree with Ion Pulsar. Just because the PSN is a free service does not give Sony a "free pass" when it comes down to things like this. I mean when I first heard of this I ignored it, but when I read it has been offline for days? That is just ridiculous. Sony, in my opinion, is the worst company when it comes down to things like this. How can such a big company such as Sony let something like this happen and for such a long time. They've been around for YEARS, they should know that there is always a possibility of hacking, yet they had zero security, or simply not a strong one.

The fact that a lot of you are saying Playstation users should not be compensated because the service is free don't understand how this looks from Sony's point of view. A majority of Playstation users buy games simply for the multiplayer aspect and now they are not allowed this service, so in essence have wasted their money.


Sony owes us nothing. They are not in any way, shape, or form required to give you anything more than an apology, which you've gotten multiple times. If they had someone intrude their servers and thus, your information, your compensation should be the peace of mind that by investing in Sony (purchasing the PS3) you have invested in a company that will shut everything down to figure out what happened and prevent data from being found, stolen, and/ or tampered with.

How does this make any sense? What if there was a school shooting and the shooter was quickly taken down my campus police. You would honestly have peace of mind that the campus police took him down? Just like any normal human being, there would be no peace of mind. The shooter shouldn't of even been able to enter the campus, and much like Sony, there is no peace of mind. Sony shouldn't of even allowed this to happen in the first place. Like I said before, Sony is WAAAAAYYYY too big of a company to have let this happen. The reason? Sony is cocky, they didn't think they would need a strong security system.
2011-04-23 20:50:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


I also love the idea that the thing which should be giving me "comfort" is the fact that at the first sign of trouble Sony nukes its own servers, leaves them offline for days, and tells me basically nothing about whats going on. Trust me, I feel really comforted right now.2011-04-23 21:01:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


I'm getting tired of this.

In the mean time i'll just play Fallout 3, still gotta do alot of stuff in there 8P
2011-04-23 21:28:00

Author:
AbstractFlesh
Posts: 837


I think the weirdest thing about this is the fact that its been storming with hardcore thunder and lightning ever since this started. Yes, storming for days straight. Its kind of starting to freak me out.2011-04-23 22:02:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


@Ion.
Again, as long as they don't directly say "Anon did this, they're at at fault and guilty!" you're just speculating and its not SONY, but the public blaming anon, yes, maybe soney knows this is what happens, but is it their fault?
What could've they said then?
Some unknown "Not Anon" group attacked PSN?
Well that just sounds more suspicious to me....

Look, you're making mountains out of a molehill.
Its like how some people call shows "racist" when they really aren't, people say "That's racist and they know it!" when the show had no intentions to be racist, who's the racist there, the one who didn't know it as racist, or the one who made it seem racist?
Same here, who's at fault for making it seem it was Anon, the one who won't confirm it, or you, the want who wants it to be confirmed?

And tone it down on the secret conspiracies, will ya?
Otherwise this is gonna turn into one of theose "They're always watching us through cams on PS3s", and they have chips inside PS3s so they stop working after a few yoears so you buy more." -kinda debates...
2011-04-23 22:04:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Before this even started, before Sony even claimed outside intereference, PS3 users have been pointing fingers at Anonymous. When have I EVER said Sony said Anonymous was to blame? I said they knew the fanbase would blame anonymous- WHich they HAVE. All I'm doing is putting out that fire, and honestly I was off the topic of ANonymous until the whole "The people who did it learned from anonymous thing", which I made a single post out of. People (Like you) keep dragging it back up however, forcing me to continue talking about it.

Therefore, I will entertain any questions or attempts to bring the subject up again, unless it is brought up via official source. I will end saying, anonymous did not do this. No attacks were performed against the PSN servers (THough I dont know if the Qriocity servers have been brought down by attacks- Cant find a good domain or IP to route from). Attempts to force me to continue to talk about this subject will be ignored in their entirety.

Whose more racist, someone who drops the subject of racism, or someone who keeps dragging it back up afterwards?
2011-04-23 22:10:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


It is upsetting that PSN is down, but it also gave me the time I needed to finish up my level.
So I am ok with it for now. I'll just wait it out and get to work on some more level ideas.
No reason to go all crazy when Sony should have whatever is going on fixed eventually.
2011-04-23 22:16:00

Author:
Unknown User


The official word is that the network was taken down by Sony to conduct a thorough investigation (http://us.playstation.com/support/answer/index.htm?a_id=2185) of an external intrusion. It appears they're trying to prevent further Distributed Denial of Service attacks by... applying a concentrated Denial of Service? 2011-04-23 22:34:00

Author:
BlackWolfe
Posts: 299


Ah well, If it's still down, Easter can hopefully distract some of us for about five to ten minutes.2011-04-23 22:45:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319


...
How does this make any sense? What if there was a school shooting and the shooter was quickly taken down my campus police. You would honestly have peace of mind that the campus police took him down? Just like any normal human being, there would be no peace of mind. The shooter shouldn't of even been able to enter the campus, and much like Sony, there is no peace of mind. Sony shouldn't of even allowed this to happen in the first place. Like I said before, Sony is WAAAAAYYYY too big of a company to have let this happen. The reason? Sony is cocky, they didn't think they would need a strong security system.

Headache right now so sidestepping most of your counter point at the moment.

I just wanted to say though on this quoted, bold, part.. really man? Really? Comparing a video game service going offline for a couple days is at all comparable with a school shooting? Wow do you hold the PSN on way too high of a pedestal.
It's not even.. a logical comparison.

School shooting.. One hand.
Cyber crime.. Other hand.

The two kinda don't really compare. A cyber attack can, with enough effort, affect governments (Screwing up a nuclear power plant kind of way, not in a Die Hard 4 kind of way). So because a corporation gets hit, it means they didn't take enough steps and are actually cocky? You totally know this as a fact too, or at least present it as a factual statement. You really don't know any of that though. Neither do I. Because we are not Sony and are not being given a lot of information. Maybe because there is an ongoing investigation, maybe because they are trying to figure it out themselves. But point is, no one knows the truth, yet.

Again, this is really not this big of a deal. To compare it with something like a school shooting and to claim that Sony is this cocky corporation that doesn't care is just kind of silly. Is it not?
2011-04-23 22:48:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


Headache right now so sidestepping most of your counter point at the moment.

I just wanted to say though on this quoted, bold, part.. really man? Really? Comparing a video game service going offline for a couple days is at all comparable with a school shooting? Wow do you hold the PSN on way too high of a pedestal.
It's not even.. a logical comparison.

School shooting.. One hand.
Cyber crime.. Other hand.

The two kinda don't really compare. A cyber attack can, with enough effort, affect governments (Screwing up a nuclear power plant kind of way, not in a Die Hard 4 kind of way). So because a corporation gets hit, it means they didn't take enough steps and are actually cocky? You totally know this as a fact too, or at least present it as a factual statement. You really don't know any of that though. Neither do I. Because we are not Sony and are not being given a lot of information. Maybe because there is an ongoing investigation, maybe because they are trying to figure it out themselves. But point is, no one knows the truth, yet.

Again, this is really not this big of a deal. To compare it with something like a school shooting and to claim that Sony is this cocky corporation that doesn't care is just kind of silly. Is it not?

I just used the school shooting as a comparison, I could've used a robbery at a bank/store, or a gumball machine eating up your quarter if I wanted to. Doesn't matter, what matters is that there shouldn't be peace of mind knowing that the only way Sony can stop this attack from happening is to shut their servers off for days. How does that give you peace of mind? Seems like you're just trying to be nice to Sony when they clearly deserve a little negative reputation for letting this even happen, and for almost a week?

And no I don't hold the PSN high, I don't even own a PS3 because frankly, a free service is not a service I'm willing to support and this being one of the examples.

And to say Sony isn't cocky may of been too far, but they felt over confident with their software. Example? When Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 was hacked, making it almost unplayable. Why had this not happened to the Xbox 360? Microsoft "bought" extra security precautions from Infinity Ward to implement into the game for the Xbox. Sony however, didn't feel like it was needed.
2011-04-24 01:18:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Just a jump in, wasn't there a time where you literally couldn't go into a room on MW2 on an X-box with out it being modded and (or) hacked?2011-04-24 01:22:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


Just a jump in, wasn't there a time where you literally couldn't go into a room on MW2 on an X-box with out it being modded and (or) hacked?

Not to my knowledge. There were hacked/modded lobbies but it was rare. The PS3 to my knowledge, and according to a lot of people on this website and Youtube was inundated with hackers.
2011-04-24 01:31:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


Not to my knowledge. There were hacked/modded lobbies but it was rare. The PS3 to my knowledge, and according to a lot of people on this website and Youtube was inundated with hackers.

Funny, my mate was telling me how cheap he can get pirated games of the internet the other day for his Xbox. Then we must remember that the first Challenge lobbies on COD appeared on Xbox, the more hackable system. It's good Sony are at least doing something about it in my opinion. I'm clueless as to what Microsoft are doing with all that money they're charging for Xbox Live, since there are still hackers on Xbox.
2011-04-24 01:52:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


Just to jump in, PSN is free, so I am happy with that, but I am a bit let down that sony had region coded all the stuff when they first claimed they would not. I have had a modded PS2, Cube, and Xbox...but have never purchased on pirated game, it is the only way to play certain games (Otostaz) or watch certain movies that are the official releases (Oldboy, Spaced, The Book Group, BR), or the best quality releases (it is amazing how many bad dvds are relseased of great movies). Why do I mention this, the PS3 was supposed to be region free, but they were not, I can't play my game or watch region B or C movies. So what option do I have? Well pirated games and movies are region free. Perhaps it is just me but it seems kind of funny that they force people to rely on pirated movies and games instead of allowing a freemarket to decide which games or movies are the best. They hide behind laws to force US customers to purchase US releases, they produce items where they are cheapest.2011-04-24 02:05:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822


Funny, my mate was telling me how cheap he can get pirated games of the internet the other day for his Xbox. Then we must remember that the first Challenge lobbies on COD appeared on Xbox, the more hackable system. It's good Sony are at least doing something about it in my opinion. I'm clueless as to what Microsoft are doing with all that money they're charging for Xbox Live, since there are still hackers on Xbox.

You can get pirated games for any console anywhere, there is almost nothing that can be done about that. And it's much harder to obtain pirated games on the Xbox then it is on the PS3. My friend rents games, and has a program that saves the ENTIRE game on his PS3. He essentially buys games for 5 dollars.

And I'm wondering, what IS Sony doing about it. All they've done is shut their servers off and that to me is not something to be happy about.

Also, the money that goes towards Xbox Live goes towards a much more fluid online experience, like crossgame voice chatting, or early access to DLC, etc,. But this isn't the place to talk about it. We're not paying to have a more secure system, but a better online experience. But in the years I've owned an Xbox there has never been a time that Xbox Live was down for more than a day.

And to be honest, 5 dollars a month is totally worth it in my opinion.
2011-04-24 02:07:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=53638-Console-Of-Duty-Modern-Trollfare/page77&highlight=console+wars2011-04-24 02:12:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


Pretty sure it's safe to say Sony isn't just sitting on it's hands. A bit illogical to assume that Sony got hacked and decided to shut the servers down, without any further action. For days.

Also, this one incident does not mean they never put any effort into stopping a cyber crime. There's no way this is the only time even an attempt has been made to hack PS servers. You just don't hear about all the different times attacks have been thwarted because no one does that in any field of preventing and stopping just about anything. It's their job to stop and prevent these sorts of things, this time something bad happened, but you don't jump all over it about how it's the end of the world and Sony deserves some sort of punishment.
So anyway I'll keep my peace of mind when one out of who knows how many attempts actually affects the servers. It makes me sad to know someone broke their security, but I can see way beyond that and not overreact to one incident. (Not to say you are.)

Oh and just to add, the best choice of comparisons would be gumball and quarter. Something about the gears are expected to rotate, take your money, spit out what you want, but it didn't work right this time. Or something. I don't know, you can play with it and form another, much less over dramatic comparison.
2011-04-24 02:26:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


Oh and just to add, the best choice of comparisons would be gumball and quarter. Something about the gears are expected to rotate, take your money, spit out what you want, but it didn't work right this time. Or something. I don't know, you can play with it and form another, much less over dramatic comparison.

Eh, that was the first thing that came to mind.
2011-04-24 02:40:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


No hard feelings right socialist, Marxist, socialist mammal? Just a friendly discussion I hope?2011-04-24 02:54:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


And no I don't hold the PSN high, I don't even own a PS3 because frankly, a free service is not a service I'm willing to support and this being one of the examples.

Wait, so... if you don't have a PS3, why do you even care about the PSN being down? You must have a PSP. If you have neither, then you can't possibly own any LittleBigPlanet game, which begs the question, why are you on this website in the first place?
2011-04-24 03:07:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276


I'm so confused. There's 4 levels on the busiest pages (http://lbp.me/search?t=busiest) of lbp.me
How the Hall are they playing them?!? 0_0
2011-04-24 03:21:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654


I'm so confused. There's 4 levels on the busiest pages (http://lbp.me/search?t=busiest) of lbp.me
How the Hall are they playing them?!? 0_0

Nobody has been playing them. Look at the recent activity for the levels. ( ______ played this level 3 Days ago)
2011-04-24 03:33:00

Author:
ConverseFox
Posts: 2333


New update from the blog:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/23/latest-update-for-psnqriocity-services/


We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security.

We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.
2011-04-24 04:14:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


Wait, so... if you don't have a PS3, why do you even care about the PSN being down? You must have a PSP. If you have neither, then you can't possibly own any LittleBigPlanet game, which begs the question, why are you on this website in the first place?

I used to have one. Actually sold my Xbox 360 for it, specifically for LBP. Wasn't my taste of tea though so I resold my PS3 for a 360.
2011-04-24 04:52:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


First off it seems like your not aloud o have your own opinion on here, which is total crap! There is always someone who has to come In and be pick apart every little thing someone posts. Just like they will with this most likely. Anyway I really don't mind the down time, I got to ace alot of levels I never got to. It is total bull that it's taking forever but what can we do. I do not think Sony handled this well at all. You can say what ou want in return but that's my opinion. Would have been a nice ling weekend for gaming buy oh well. Stuff happens. Hopefully things can get working soon so we can get something out of this weekend. Happy Easter.2011-04-24 04:53:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


First off it seems like your not aloud o have your own opinion on here...
No, your opinion is acceptable, but the thread you posted essentially had the same topic as this thread - PSN being down. I only locked your thread as it is a rule here to only have only one thread per a topic, otherwise the forums would be all messy.
2011-04-24 04:56:00

Author:
warlord_evil
Posts: 4193


Lol, it was them taking it down then. Kind of figured they may do that (Sony). I wonder if it is a firmware update to try and brick all systems that may get jailbroken. I still have yet to break my Ipod...but I am tired of waiting for them to place an audible alarm on it so I think I will in a month or so if they still fail to do it (sad thing is once is is jailbroken you can just toss in a new alarm file...which would take the Apple seconds to do if they cared about customers). This is the same reason I think jailbreaking would be good for the PS3 as well. Sorry to get off topic, but honestly the reminder alert on the ipod is the lamest thing in the universe next to not being able to play Otostaz on my PS3 (I sold my modded PS2 back when the PS3 came out because they had promised to release it region free...but hey no biggy, it was on 600 dollars...it is their right to lie to the customer). 2011-04-24 05:25:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822


Nobody has been playing them. Look at the recent activity for the levels. ( ______ played this level 3 Days ago)

Touche.......
2011-04-24 05:39:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654


No, your opinion is acceptable, but the thread you posted essentially had the same topic as this thread - PSN being down. I only locked your thread as it is a rule here to only have only one thread per a topic, otherwise the forums would be all messy.

Actually lol it had nothing to do with that, I understand that. I was looking but totally blew past this thread. I was just taking about some of the posts I have seen. And as far as replying with some info, thanks! I had just read an IGN article that got me going. Ya know it's a free service which I love and once everythings running normal this will be yesterday's news. Stuff happens. I think it's really dumb that people are thinking they are going to get something for free, I mean come on the service itself is free. If we laid then it would be entirely different. You don't realize how much fun you have online until you can't go online.
I have a feeling a few games are gonna be loaded with people once everything gets running. I'll keep checking to see if it is up and running.
2011-04-24 05:42:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Well, at least now they posted why PSN is down and why it is taking so long. With them replacing a lot of servers, it's not surprising how long this is taking. At least now I can make a rough guesstimate of how long it will take, even without an ETA. Notice I said GUESStimate, not EStimate. I guess it'll be around 1 or 2 more days before they'll be back up.

In the meantime, all the Singleplayer games I have for the PS3 have already been completed a long time ago. I didn't buy any more games except LittleBigPlanet 2, because I preferred to spend my money on something else than games. Now I have no good singleplayer games to play while PSN is down. Anyone know a good PC game? Maybe an MMORPG or something, or an RTS in the medieval ages like Age of Empires and The Settlers. Or an RPG in the vein of old-school Game Boy Advance RPGs.. or something like but not exactly The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion?
2011-04-24 09:07:00

Author:
robbit10
Posts: 450


Sony:
-3 days and no idea what's going on.
-So vain they think that no one will try to hack them, therefore weak defences.
-Apparently they haven't even been hacked.
- 70 million players offline.
-Dismaystation.

Yep. I'm not supporting them anymore. I'm more impatient than sympathetic.
2011-04-24 10:27:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319


Strange I don't think they can count, in the UK I haven't had access since Tuesday 19th, just read an update on the Sony blog and IGN:

UPDATE 2: We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online. Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security. We thank you for your patience to date and ask for a little more while we move towards completion of this project. We will continue to give you updates as they become available.

That really doesn't sound good. Where I work a system re-build took over 2 weeks and not quite what Sony are dealing with, but it was something a lot smaller then over 60 million PSN accounts.
2011-04-24 11:26:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


playstation say they are improving there security i belive that when i see it
they will probably make us do an update after its back on

look at the video on this page its from anomyous http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20110424/sony-psn-outage-latest-update-re-building-infrastructure/
2011-04-24 11:27:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


@ EVERYONE ASKING FOR SOME SORT OF "COMPENSATION BECASUSE THE NETWORKS' DOWN."

May I remind you of this:
15. WARRANTY DISCLAIMER AND LIMITATION OF LIABILITY
No warranty is given about the quality, functionality, availability or performance of Sony Online Services, or any content or service offered on or through Sony Online Services. All services and content are provided ?AS IS? and ?AS AVAILABLE? with all faults. SCEA does not warrant that the service and content will be uninterrupted, error-free or without delays. In addition to the limitations of liability in Sections 1, 2, 11 and 13 of this Agreement, SCEA expressly disclaims any implied warranty of merchantability, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose and warranty of non-infringement. SCEA assumes no liability for any inability to purchase, access, download or use any content, data or serviceJust in case you didn?t read it before!

So, no compensation for you, and if you accepted these tems, then you got no business whining about it.


THAT, my friends, is why I read these things, and why you shoul as well...
2011-04-24 11:45:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


true

they might do it again in the summer holidays
2011-04-24 11:47:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


How ridiculous do you have to be for wanting compensation anyway. All it is is looking for excuses to have free stuff, not compensation.2011-04-24 12:17:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


On the plus side, I've completed portal 2 and now I'll probably have plenty of time to beat New Vegas, or even FFVII. Sort of forgot that there are games other than lbp2011-04-24 12:23:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


First off your impatience is getting the best of some of you.

Just be patient, and the Playstation Network will be back on in no time.

Further to add this short suspension of the network is a good thing instead of a bad one.

Most of you look at the bad side but look at the good side and you will see its more attractive then the bad one (LOL)

It gives you time to get off your couch and do something fit and fun instead of looking all day at your T.V. screen.

2011-04-24 12:24:00

Author:
Unknown User


Imagine how upset the developers/owners of the companies that created Steam and Portal 2 are right about now. Especially with steam, I would think that this is a large loss of revenue on such a big weekend.....2011-04-24 12:41:00

Author:
sascha_winter
Posts: 163


It gives you time to get off your couch and do something fit and fun instead of looking all day at your T.V. screen.
You're right. It lets me visit here more and stare at my laptop screen all day instead.
2011-04-24 12:46:00

Author:
Moonface
Posts: 310


I just went out and got drunk 2011-04-24 13:00:00

Author:
OriginalCreator
Posts: 217


I just went out and got drunk

Now that's the spirit.

2011-04-24 13:08:00

Author:
Unknown User


Imagine how upset the developers/owners of the companies that created Steam and Portal 2 are right about now. Especially with steam, I would think that this is a large loss of revenue on such a big weekend.....

I'm sure Valve will be fine..
2011-04-24 13:12:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


On one hand, it sucks because as well as PSN being down, it's also easter so all the GAME shops are closed and I can't buy Portal 2!

On the other, it's probably nothing. My guess is that the cleaner unplugged something to get power to the hoover. At least the PSN offices will be clean though!
2011-04-24 14:41:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


Maybe this is Gods way of telling me to do my homework, first i get YLOD, then i buy a new ps3 slim and the entire network is down lol2011-04-24 14:54:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


Leave it to Sony to ruin a perfectly good Weekend. Its stinks cuz tomorrow i have school like Rpg Maker said "this is god's way of telling me to do my homework"2011-04-24 15:03:00

Author:
Unknown User


Okay, I'm not even kidding. Last night I dreamed that the servers were back on. When I woke up I was liek ;_;2011-04-24 15:15:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654


Okay, I'm not even kidding. Last night I dreamed that the servers were back on. When I woke up I was liek ;_;

I think we had the same dream lol I woke up i was like YEAA!!!

*pops in disk*
*goes to sign in*
*sees error code*
*Insert random foul language*
2011-04-24 15:29:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


This downtime is extremely frusturating. I can't access the PSN, LBP2, LBW, LBP.me, anything PSN. O_o

At least LBPC is still accessable. Hopefully when Sony fixes the problem they'll up the security on the PSN, or, even better, take out the intrusion from the source.
2011-04-24 16:59:00

Author:
Goober1823
Posts: 76


The last time the network went down, it came back on exactly at 8:00 PM central time I believe it was.

Maybe that's the time it will be back online.

If not then it should be back back online tomorrow.
2011-04-24 17:05:00

Author:
Unknown User


The last time the network went down, it came back on exactly at 8:00 PM central time I believe it was.

Maybe that's the time it will be back online.

If not then it should be back back online tomorrow.

If anything like that it'll probably 6PM Central since Central time = -6 GMT and then GMT would be at midnight.
2011-04-24 18:50:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651


If they're rebuilding the system I'd expect another few days probably.2011-04-24 19:05:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Yeah yea.

You know what I mean lol



If it's more then a day, then most of us would probably go insane. LOL
2011-04-24 19:08:00

Author:
Unknown User


May i recommend getting into some indie PC games to pass the time? VVVVVV and Plants vs Zombies are great places to start.2011-04-24 19:10:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767


Using my time wisely and have returned to play some pop in red dead redemption. Some games seem better after a year away...
Just thought I'd Chill out, relax and try and get chased by a massive pack of grizzly...
2011-04-24 19:19:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


Or maybe get couple of trophys? By the way, I bought ?25 (GBP) PSN codes and pairs of McKenzie socks worth ?5 (GBP). I not gonna moan again about PSN, I gonna say on topic on what other people talking about.

Alright, back on track. I sometime a trophy addict, almost on level 7. I nearly got platinum on LBP 2, I aced the game. The first on I ever had was on LBP 1. But I could get NFS Shift 1 Trophys.
2011-04-24 19:44:00

Author:
ShiftyDog
Posts: 293


Alright, back on track. I sometime a trophy addict, almost on level 7. I nearly got platinum on LBP 2, I aced the game. The first on I ever had was on LBP 1. But I could get NFS Shift 1 Trophys.
If the network's down for much longer, I may have to work on my 6th platinum, Borderlands! (Sig needs updating) /end thinly disguised boasting
2011-04-24 19:56:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


The last time the network went down, it came back on exactly at 8:00 PM central time I believe it was.

Maybe that's the time it will be back online.

If not then it should be back back online tomorrow.

April 20th:
"Well, it'll probably be back on tomorrow."
April 21st:
"It'll be back on tomorrow most likely."
April 22nd:
"It should be back on tomorrow."
April 23rd:
"It'll likely be brought back on tomorrow."
April 24th:
"It should be back online tomorrow."

When I got up this morning to get on PSN, I fully expected it to be offline. THats a bad sign, when your service is offline for so long your customers begin EXPECTING it to be broken.

Also, silverleon:

WE FREAKIN KNOW they are not legally obligated to do so. THats not what people are saying! Pull your head out of your rump and actually read what people are saying. From a PR point of view, it would simply be WISE for them to do so to appease the enraged userbase- No one is saying they HAVE to, they are saying they SHOULD. Theres a difference.
2011-04-24 21:05:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Ok so I've been on a couple random sites and they are saying they got to go online then got booted out. I hope they are not lying!

Another thing is there anyway possible that our trophies can be gone? I'm not sure if that can even happen. Even if it did won't they just sync back up when we sign in. I don't care about anything else except that. If somehow that ever happened I'd be done with Sony forever. If anyone can answer that'd be great. I assume we can just sync any old trophies if we had to, just like it will sync the new ones we got over the weekend. I've aced everything and got a ton of trophies on multiple games. I would have never aced those levels if online was working. I've aced all of LBP1 and 2 and I've aced all DLC, feels good. Wish I can back up to cloud. By far the hardest for me to ace was the mines. Most people fly through it but I had a ton of glitches where stuff wouldn't work and I kept dying in the weirdest spots. It would have been so easy.

It's funny to see how many games are based on multiplayer these days. Most of the games I own would be worthless without online. Out of all that has happened I'm hoping some great levels will be published when were back on. I'm sure a ton of people just focused on creating. One last thing before I go. Do you think there is going a total overload when the servers are back up. I mean once the word gets out everyone is going to sign in all at once just because they can. I have a feeling LBP is going to have the most people ever online at once. If this would be a problem maybe they can let different sections of the world go on over a period of time, again not sure if it's possible. Ok so I'm done venting, hopefully someone educated enough to know can answer my questions.


Just a final note: I've seen tons of people say they can't watch nexflix. Not sure what they are doing wrong but I can watch fine. Just make sure auto sign is off. Also stop saying we should get a free game or something. Good luck with that lol! We are getting something back that is much bigger. A network that won't fail and is more secure. That works for me.
2011-04-24 21:05:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Sony is behind all of this. They settled with Geohotz out of court and he's being used as a scapegoat. They will find a reason to make things pay to play, and they will try to intimidate people from using CFW on their systems.2011-04-24 21:11:00

Author:
Unknown User


Shh, dont say things like that! Rabid fanboys will tear you apart!2011-04-24 21:13:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Hmmm.....my sign in status now times out to a DNS error (80710102) not the previous error (0x80710a06).

Hmmm...*strokes chin*

EDIT: Stroking's over, it's back to the old "Maintenance" screen now.

My hopes of playing Portal 2's co-op lay shattered on the ground. ;____;
2011-04-24 21:21:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


WE FREAKIN KNOW they are not legally obligated to do so. THats not what people are saying! Pull your head out of your rump and actually read what people are saying. From a PR point of view, it would simply be WISE for them to do so to appease the enraged userbase- No one is saying they HAVE to, they are saying they SHOULD. Theres a difference.

This. No one in the thread said they had to Silver, you need to read a little more thoroughly. Also I highly doubt you read the Terms of Service, and if I'm wrong and you do, congratulations, you are the first person I've ever met that does so.

What I have been saying this entire time is this, Sony would be unwise to not give something to their MASSIVE MASSIVE, user base. It would just be stupid. There are millions of players that use the PSN and it has been down for several days, and is expected to be down for a few more if they are rebuilding the entire system.

People are upset and it's up to Sony to choose what to do next. I'm just stating that from a PR point of view, it would be smart to give something to compensate for the downtime. Especially, since it's the Spring Break here in California (probably in many other states too) and a lot of kids want to play an excessive amount of gaming and are unable to do so (directed towards those that spend most of their time online).
2011-04-24 21:42:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250


(I admit that I haven't read through all of the posts for this particular thread, so if this has been addressed, I apologize.) My primary concerns with the PSN are in regards to the integrity of the data that the players have published via Sony's servers (in our case, our custom LBP levels) and the safety of our CC information. The LBP franchise's popularity rises directly from the ability of the community to share and contribute content. I did read the newest EULA in full, so I understand that corruption or loss of data can never be faulted to any of the associated legal entities. That being said, what would the reaction from the fanbase be if most of those 4 million levels were unrecoverable? Has Sony addressed whether or not our personal (financial) data was breeched (beyond the myriad of 3rd parties we had to agree to share it with)? I think if they could address those two issues (a generic data-related statement would suffice), it would collectively lessen the anxiety PS3 owners are expressing right now.2011-04-24 22:15:00

Author:
dal-n-pok
Posts: 28


Has Sony addressed whether or not our personal (financial) data was breeched (beyond the myriad of 3rd parties we had to agree to share it with)?

There has been an unsubstantiated rumour that PSN users' account security may have been breached, but Sony remain tight lipped about this. You can read more on the rumour here...

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/04/24/possible-scee-source-cites-reason-for-psn-outage/

A potential source of the "intrusion" cited by Sony...?

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-Chinas-Cyber-Hackers-Growing-Threat-To-Western-Security-Sky-News-Investigation/Article/201104315974328?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_A rticle_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15974328_Video%3A_Chinas_Cyber_Hackers _Growing_Threat_To_Western_Security_Sky_News_Inves tigation
2011-04-24 23:06:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


http://www.psu.com/PSN-hackers-attacked-Admin-Dev-accounts,-services-r...

Well....that sounds kinda good...i guess.
2011-04-24 23:31:00

Author:
DeKay1980
Posts: 183


http://www.psu.com/PSN-hackers-attacked-Admin-Dev-accounts,-services-r...

Well....that sounds kinda good...i guess.

Your link's broken
2011-04-24 23:34:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


I have to hand it to sony, what they have done is actually very clever.

ANy time any aspect of sony gets attacked, they will now nuke their servers to make their customers angry then blame whoever it is that did it. Makes an effectve deterrent, and an outstanding way to turn public opinion against whomever they want, as anyone who simply wishes to attack sony while not attacking the PSN will bring down PSN anyway because sony is going to shut it down no matter what happens, or if its even necessary. UNfortunately sony also shot themselves in the foot now too, since if they're just going to deep six PSN no matter what, why avoid attacking via PSN at all?
2011-04-24 23:42:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Sorry for that!

That's what they say:
"The SCEE source said Japanese servers may be restored tomorrow while the U.S. and E.U. servers will likely be operational the following day."
2011-04-24 23:44:00

Author:
DeKay1980
Posts: 183


They also said it would only be down for a day or two. Frankly, I don't believe a word Sony says on this whole fiasco. I'll believe it when I see it.
Basically, they just now said "A day or two". Have we heard that one before...?
2011-04-24 23:46:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Basically, they just now said "A day or two". Have we heard that one before...?

Hey, could be worse. They could be operating on Valve time.
2011-04-24 23:48:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


Thing is, I don't want to hear "may be" or "likely". I just want sony to GET IT DONE.2011-04-24 23:49:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Thing is, I don't want to hear "maybe" or "probably". I just want sony to GET IT DONE.

I'm frustrated too, and I definitely think Sony handled this badly, communicating next to no details to us.
2011-04-24 23:52:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


I'm sure it will be up and running...
Soon
2011-04-25 00:19:00

Author:
Jedi_1993
Posts: 1518


I'm sure it will be up and running...
Soon

yeah....
Soon
2011-04-25 00:23:00

Author:
Unknown User


I do think that people should calm down a little. It's a malfunction - and mistakes happen. Even big companies make mistakes - and nobody has been hurt by this. The PSN service is free - and it's only been offline for a few days - I mean, I remember back when you had to come offline anytime somebody wanted to make a phone call, or was expecting a phone call.

Why not use this opportunity to go outside, and do something? Here in London it is very nice weather, and I'm sure this isn't the only place. I just tend to worry about the state of the world when people think the world is over just because a game is offline for a day or two.

Relax and do something else for a little bit. Play a different game, create, use this opportunity to get that Platinum Trophy you've always wanted!

IDK...
2011-04-25 00:59:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


I doubt that this is going to last until wednesday.

I do hope they get it fixed by tomorrow or tuesday.

-Deep breath- Why must they do this in the last day of spring break!?
2011-04-25 01:10:00

Author:
Unknown User


I doubt that this is going to last until wednesday.

I do hope they get it fixed by tomorrow or tuesday.

-Deep breath- Why must they do this in the last day of spring break!?

I was...actually...going to play MAG? again...
2011-04-25 01:13:00

Author:
Cronos Dage
Posts: 396


I do think that people should calm down a little. It's a malfunction - and mistakes happen. Even though when big companies make mistakes they keep their consumers informed - and nobody has been physically hurt by this. The PSN service is free - and it's only been offline for a few days during spring break, when everyone is able to use it - I mean, I remember back when you had to come offline anytime somebody wanted to make a phone call, or was expecting a phone call because the past matters.

Why not don't I use this opportunity to go outside, and do something repeat tired old rhetoric, assuming no one here goes outside or has a job where they work outside and just want to come home and play their PS3? Here in London it is very nice weather, and I'm sure this isn't the only place even though I am wholly unqualified to assume everywhere else in the world is just as nice out. I just tend to worry about the state of the world when people think the world is over just expect a major corporation to keep its userbase informed because a game is offline for a day or two five days.

Relax and do something else for a little bit. Play a different game, create, use this opportunity to get that Platinum Trophy you've always wanted!

IDK...

O hi, I fixed your post.
2011-04-25 01:19:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


I agree with standby250... there are so many people complaining about this outage.. I read one forum where some guy was going off about how "everytime this happens he wants to run out and grab an xbox.." which is fine. I don't care if he also owns an xbox. but xbox live is not as reliable as psn and you have to pay for it..

I don't think SONY owes anyone an explanation. they are working to fix it. I'd rather it be fixed that have them throw something up just to take it back down 6 hours later.

I don't know how much SONY makes from sales on the playstation store, but I'm sure that alone is making them eager to fix this problem. I'm sure they'll lose a few million dollars in revenue before the blackout is over.
2011-04-25 01:19:00

Author:
shane_danger
Posts: 283


Some of my friends IRL started to complain about the PSN being down.

It's funny because they rarely log on at all.

/hypocrites http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/467261-Slash/261/47/imhappyplz_icon.gif
2011-04-25 01:21:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


Agree with standby, it's not that unbearable. We are very lucky most of us have high speed connections and practically a constant presence online. What seems like just a few years ago the d/l speeds of today would have been mind bending. I remember a time when just a few megabytes took hours, now it takes seconds. Even loading a new webpage took a while. Just as speed of internet has increased it seems our patience has decreased. It's been out so long now it's only a matter of time before it comes back, the odds are with us.

No good ever came out of rushing a job. I have no problem with Sony taking their time and getting it done right. Hopefully this kind of thing won't happen again when they are done, until then I wait patiently.
2011-04-25 01:22:00

Author:
OneEyedBanshee
Posts: 1370


I agree with standby250... there are so many people complaining about this outage.. I read one forum where some guy was going off about how "everytime this happens he wants to run out and grab an xbox.." which is fine. I don't care if he also owns an xbox. but xbox live is not asfar more reliable asthan psn and you have to pay an extremely small fee for it..

I don't think SONY owes anyeveryone an explanation. they are working to fix it. I'd rather it be fixed that have them throw something up just to take it back down 6 hours later.

I don't know how much SONY makes from sales on the playstation store, but I'm sure that alone is making them eager to fix this problem. I'm sure they'll lose a few million dollars in revenue before the blackout is over.

O hi, I fixed your post too. Also, this "Sony doesnt have to explain anything to its consumers" BS makes you look like a tool. Every customer should ALWAYS ask questions about its corporations, get their reasons when something goes down, and keep informed, otherwise we condemn ourselves to an informational void. If we don't ask questions, we will recieve no answers.
2011-04-25 01:34:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


This. No one in the thread said they had to Silver, you need to read a little more thoroughly. Also I highly doubt you read the Terms of Service, and if I'm wrong and you do, congratulations, you are the first person I've ever met that does so.

What I have been saying this entire time is this, Sony would be unwise to not give something to their MASSIVE MASSIVE, user base. It would just be stupid. There are millions of players that use the PSN and it has been down for several days, and is expected to be down for a few more if they are rebuilding the entire system.

People are upset and it's up to Sony to choose what to do next. I'm just stating that from a PR point of view, it would be smart to give something to compensate for the downtime. Especially, since it's the Spring Break here in California (probably in many other states too) and a lot of kids want to play an excessive amount of gaming and are unable to do so (directed towards those that spend most of their time online).


I know not EVERYONE is saying that, but some are DEMANDING it as if it was their right to do get compensation.
Yes, Its unwise, yes, they SHOULD, no they won't, that is all I AM saying, THAT is the reason they put that disclaimer, exactly so they won't have to, and if they don't HAVE to, they most likely won't.

I mean, everyone keeps begging for PSN to be back, what are they gonna do if they don't get anything in return, quit?
Most unlikely, what they know its gonna happen is people are gonna demand for something, they're not gonna get it, they'll huff and puff for a while and calm down as if nothing ever happened.

i mean, really, has it been any differently when something like that happened?
2011-04-25 01:48:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Here lies PSN
RIP
April 2011
(murdered by hackers)
Countless years of enjoyment suddenly shattered

Maybe you can resurect. It is Easter and all.
2011-04-25 01:55:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


were beginning to get data off PSN. If you look at "whats new", theres stuff there. It was blank before,2011-04-25 02:01:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


Btw, they're saying it may be up on Tuesday:
http://www.climbthenet.com/playstation-network-could-be-down-till-tuesday/1372

Yet again, they've been saying it was gonna be up 2 days ago, yesterday, and today.
Altho Tuesday IS weekly update, so it kinda make sense bringing it back up then.
(Tbh, I was already expecting it to be ount until Tuesday anyways.)
2011-04-25 02:17:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Just purchased a Wii system and am thoroughly enjoying it.
Spent about five hours Easter Day playing on it with the kids and allowed the wife to rest.
Spent most of the weekend enjoying the fresh air, visiting relatives,
met some new friends at a Dr Who Season Premiere party,
and basically forgot all about the PSN problems.
Came back to see if anything had changed.
Sadly, there are still those who repress free expression of speech...
Oh well...
Glad to be back among all of you.
2011-04-25 02:20:00

Author:
Unknown User


were beginning to get data off PSN. If you look at "whats new", theres stuff there. It was blank before,

Mine has always said something. Not sure what but i thinks it's the same as when my **** ps3 went offline. I wonder how people are logging in on the ps3 lbp forums. The post and very seldom but they do post. I always get the sever down message
2011-04-25 02:21:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


Mines said the same thing since it's been down..
50% off with +
and Socom 4.
2011-04-25 02:25:00

Author:
Maxi
Posts: 1176


Btw, they're saying it may be up on Tuesday:
http://www.climbthenet.com/playstation-network-could-be-down-till-tuesday/1372

Yet again, they've been saying it was gonna be up 2 days ago, yesterday, and today.
Altho Tuesday IS weekly update, so it kinda make sense bringing it back up then.
(Tbh, I was already expecting it to be ount until Tuesday anyways.)

Personally i think Tuesday makes a lot of sense. But i wont get my hopes up--i tend to jynx a lot of things...

LBP2 is so dry by yourself , so i went to Facebook and i didnt know what to do so i came here; Havent updated my status in about a month lol
Pretty much playing the new Mortal Kombat game, and perfect timing at that. I should be doing my homework but as many of my friends call me, i am a master of procrastination.
2011-04-25 03:05:00

Author:
Rpg Maker
Posts: 877


Tuesday. Tuesday? TUESDAY?!?!?!

http://www.allofftopic.com/images/smilies/ffuuu2.png

Srsly, I've gotten every trophy for single player in Portal 2, so I'm in desperate need of online play. I'm going mental.
2011-04-25 03:09:00

Author:
anoken
Posts: 1654


So much hate.

They're not telling you what's wrong with PSN because it's quite obvious they don't know themselves. They've said maintenance, internal problems, hackers, etc. I'm sure as soon as they actually figure out the problem, they'll let us all know.

P.S. The only group of people Sony owes something to is PS+ members, and all they really should do is give them back the days lost from PSN being down
2011-04-25 03:29:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


P.S. The only group of people Sony owes something to is PS+ members, and all they really should do is give them back the days lost from PSN being down

Not to worry! They have already begun cutting up calenders and will be mailing you little paper squares soonishly!
2011-04-25 03:41:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


Wow seriously how long has this been 3-4 days now? I'm starting to get narked by all my xbox friends. Then I told them they had no exclusive character for MK9. That shut em up.2011-04-25 05:03:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332


Apparently, the servers will be back up tomorrow2011-04-25 05:09:00

Author:
Sonik42
Posts: 76


How do you know its ending tomorrow and not Tuesday or weeks from now, weres your source?2011-04-25 05:24:00

Author:
Rokusho
Posts: 45


Oh and also, the Ion Pulsar, why are you bashing what people are saying? You look like a troll. You are taking a Downtime of PSN a little bit too far if you ask me.2011-04-25 05:33:00

Author:
acdramon
Posts: 332


Oh and also, the Ion Pulsar, why are you bashing what people are saying? You look like a troll. You are taking a Downtime of PSN a little bit too far if you ask me.

Agreed to the max.
2011-04-25 05:41:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


I really hope it actually goes back up tomorrow... This is ridiculous....2011-04-25 07:47:00

Author:
Fading-Dream
Posts: 164


Its just getting old seeing people say to "go outside" like everyone complainign about the problem is just sitting there staring at their television from the moment they wake up the moment they fall asleep. I'm also tired of being told to pretend the problem doesnt exist.

its alse beginning to get irritating having people say that we, the consumer, have no right to demand answers from a company for failing to render a service, free or not. I have the right to ask questions whenever I please. The customer is always right, but some of you likely do not understand the meaning behind those words- The customer may be dead wrong but you treat them as though they are right so they will continue buying things from you. I dont think I;ve made any outrageous statements so far- Simply demanding answers from sony regarding this debacle and suggesting that it might be wise to placate the masses afterwards. I havent said they should open their databases to us to pore over ourselves, I havent requested any sort of free memberships, I haven't threatened to sue (As though it were feasible, I know I have to say I wouldnt actually do that because someone here will leap on it if I don't). I dont have a grocery list of unreasonable demands- I jsut want to iknow whats going on, and for people to stop twisting my words.

I bear no regrets or apologies. The two posts I corrected were people spouting the same old tired rhetoric that has been said in this thread a dozen times- "Go outside", "Play offline", etc. I am well aware that knowing what is going on will not make it go faster.

Thats.

Not.

The point.

"A watched pot never boils" as the old adage goes- Basically, if youre standing there, watching something and waiting for it to happen, it will feel like an eternity. But if you have some sort of time frame, you can stop worrying about it and it eases the passage of time. Will the knowledge have any material impact on whats going on? No. Will it at least help people stop being so frustrated over the uncertainty? Absolutely.
2011-04-25 08:36:00

Author:
the Ion Pulsar
Posts: 172


IT'S BACK UP!
It takes ages to sign in and I have to turn off my network router thingy but IT'S BACK!
2011-04-25 11:10:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319


IT'S BACK UP!
It takes ages to sign in and I have to turn off my network router thingy but IT'S BACK!


Eh, not even gonna bother, this is either an obvious troll, or a rare/ specific case.
Either that or its being set up again by location/ region, otherwise it'd be all over the place.

Not to mention that according to this:
http://uk.playstation.com/
The networks still offline.
2011-04-25 11:23:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


IT'S BACK UP!
It takes ages to sign in and I have to turn off my network router thingy but IT'S BACK!

uk.playstation.com (http://uk.playstation.com/) just proved you wrong, Mr. Jakest.
2011-04-25 11:27:00

Author:
FlipMeister
Posts: 631


IT'S BACK UP!
It takes ages to sign in and I have to turn off my network router thingy but IT'S BACK!

you had me excited there lol
2011-04-25 11:40:00

Author:
Onii55
Posts: 153


It WAS back up for me, no trollin'

But now it's not DX
2011-04-25 12:08:00

Author:
Jakest123
Posts: 319


The easy way to sign in and check whether it working is to sign into LBP.me.

That'll tell you...
2011-04-25 12:30:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


"Go Outside". Oh how I hate those two little words. For you people that say go outside you do realise just posting "go outside" shows that you are inside just as much. I actually I had decent weekend. I go outside pretty much all day. Do you ever stop and think almost everyone is on a portable device these days and are probably outside more than you are all week. And so what if we make this PSN outage such a huge problem, these days online gaming is a huge part of people's lives. Who cares if someone enjoys sitting in front of the tv and playing games all day. I have all day to do nothing an I'm in front of the tv right now.


The easy way to sign in and check whether it working is to sign into LBP.me.

That'll tell you...


That's what I do. It wired though because people gave been signing in and posting throughout the weekend.
2011-04-25 12:57:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


"Go Outside". Oh how I hate those two little words. For you people that say go outside you do realise just posting "go outside" shows that you are inside just as much. I actually I had decent weekend. I go outside pretty much all day. Do you ever stop and think almost everyone is on a portable device these days and are probably outside more than you are all week. And so what if we make this PSN outage such a huge problem, these days online gaming is a huge part of people's lives. Who cares if someone enjoys sitting in front of the tv and playing games all day. I have all day to do nothing an I'm in front of the tv right now.

...you do realize when they say "go outside" they mean to do stuff, not necessarily literally, but to get your face out of teh screen and do something else.

saying "I'm outside a lot, playing portable videogames all day" is not really something to different to sayin 'I sit at home all day playing videogames," you know?

They mostly mean to get up and do something productive rather than play videogames all day, m8.

Also, again, its not like you lost complete online acess to anything, you still got everything else functioning other than PSN.

Come on, if I could survive nearly a year with 0 onine acess (not internet, no nothing.) you guys should be able to easly take down a mere week WITH internet, just PSN-less, right?
Or is that too difficult for you...?

If you got nothing to do, draw, help your family with chores, do whatever, its not like there's NOTHING to do, there's always things to d, or someone that may need help, so don't give me that excuse.
2011-04-25 13:13:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I hope PSN comes back tuesday, i'm tired of Fallout 3 =(2011-04-25 13:14:00

Author:
AbstractFlesh
Posts: 837


i dont think it will be back tomorrow just a felling i got2011-04-25 13:15:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


My guess is that it will take at least another week..
I hope I am wrong though.

what I do hope, is that for every day psn is offline, we get an additional day on PS+.
Would be fair in my humble opinion.
Payed good money for it.


/ on another note..
I mis c_mckamey, fotosynthesis and the whole lbp2 chat on ps3.
My sackboy has been in cry-emotion ever since the psn server went down /
2011-04-25 13:18:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


I heard some black ops fans are trading in their ps3s because they lost 20 minutes of vital noob-tubing....2011-04-25 13:24:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


ive been playing halo ce on my pc until its back you know theres a lot of servers on halo right now2011-04-25 13:24:00

Author:
danger sackboy
Posts: 177


I just thought of something.
this is no Anon attack..
the psn downtime started around the first retail releases of portal 2.
portal 2 comes with steam.

steam = reason psn is down, wouldnt be the first time something involving steam doesnt work for weeks at end
2011-04-25 13:26:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136


I hope PSN comes back tuesday, i'm tired of Fallout 3 =(

You can never get tired of FO3!
On topic, this still isn't fixed? I know some people who must be fuming by now
2011-04-25 13:40:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


Well, at least I've had time to complete Portal 2's single player trophies. It's been an awesome experience so far. Whenever PSN comes back I can fully focus on the co-op mode.2011-04-25 13:42:00

Author:
Edeslash
Posts: 135


I heard some black ops fans are trading in their ps3s because they lost 20 minutes of vital noob-tubing....

Isn't that good then?
See?
people always see why things are bad, but we know there were some good turnabouts with this.


I just thought of something.
this is no Anon attack..
the psn downtime started around the first retail releases of portal 2.
portal 2 comes with steam.

steam = reason psn is down, wouldn't be the first time something involving steam doesnt work for weeks at end
lol, actually, a few already came up with that theory a few pages back, dude.
2011-04-25 14:24:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707



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