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2-way switch stops working & falls off?

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Hi, I'm in the middle of my level and find that nearly all my 2-way swithes (the one that's a lever) stops working and can't be pulled when it's stuck to a wall or surface. Yet it works in create mode and not in play mode. Sometimes when I shrink it a little it works again or sometimes it just doesn't. Other times I've stuck it down to a flat surface only to find that it falls off in both create and play mode.

In create mode I glue it down only to see it fall off immediately after gluing it or un-pausing. Is this a bug or something or, is there some sort of trick to do when using them in your level that I don't know about?

2011-04-13 10:46:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


This is the first I've heard of this. Not sure what is wrong and what could fix this. Did you try using the actual glue tool in the tools bag.2011-04-13 13:33:00

Author:
METALPUNKS
Posts: 306


I think I may have, but I'll give it another go. Very starnge, sometime is works, another time it doesn't.2011-04-13 13:36:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Does sound a bit like a bug to me. Maybe put it on the official bugs forum over at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/products/littlebigplanet_littlebigplanet_2

That way media molecule may get in touch about it and ask you to send them your level.

Does it only happen in one level or all of your moon? Other switches (3 way/button) too?
2011-04-13 15:04:00

Author:
faulky
Posts: 80


Have you replaced it with a new switch? Maybe copy the level over to a new patch on the moon and see if the glitch persists?2011-04-13 15:17:00

Author:
Xaif
Posts: 365


Thats good advice from everyone Little Big Des. It does sound like a bug. Ver unusual as as the lever switches SHOULD work fine after glueing them down.
Possible things that you may have overlooked- and its so easy to do-
Are you sure you completed the glueing process and held the button till the stick?
Did you accidently glue the switch to the back thin layer? (this can happen as the handle part of the switch can be glued as wellas the base- unglueing and deleting the thin back layer can fix this).
When positioning the switches did you accidently place the base of the switch inside a block (if the bottom 'rockker' part of the switch is covered it can make problems or not move at all)


Place another unglued 2-way switch on the ground and see can it be pulled. if it can, glue it down to the ground. If it can still be pulled, then somehow the other switches have accidently been glued. If it wont pull then its a bug. and alas, you'll need to redo that part.
2011-04-13 15:32:00

Author:
Sean88
Posts: 662


it happend to me too what i think is the problem is that the sponge on the handle gets glued to the wall2011-04-13 16:07:00

Author:
Khriz134
Posts: 38


From what I've seen it may very well be that its the handle sticking to stuff. Since cutting out a whole behind it in the layer the lever works. But this is not the look I'm going for, I don't really want a whole behind. My switches tend to be placed on the front most layer. Maybe shrinking it will help, but then again it ends up being smaller than what I want it to be. I can't win. I've tried replacing the switch, still happens. BUT it tends to work more if it's on the ground, yet part of the game play is you have to jump up to it so putting it on the floor defeats this purpose.

If I get them all working again I'll post here on the tips so others that come across it will know.
2011-04-13 21:40:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Hi Little Big Des :-) Good afternoon.

I hate to say it buddy, but its sounding more and more like an unusual bug.
If you cut out the wall behind and now its leaving gaps where the handles are, you should be able to pick the same material as the olne that was cut out (to match the wall at the same thickness, and fill in the hole. it should blend in with the existing same material wall.

I'm just thinking, If your putting 2 or 3 way switches in this level now. and THEY are working, its got to be the way the faulty existing ones are glued or positioned.
May I ask, what are the tweak settings on the faulty switches? Did you copy and paste the same switch? |What material block is the faulty switches attached to? Are a couple of switches not working attached to the same material block
Maybe if you place a 2 way switch, but glue it to a white matter block 1 high by 4 wide,1 layer thick. but have nothing else touching it, and save this as an object. Delete all th faulty switches one at a time and the block they are attached to and replace them with the captured 'switch block' you made. As nothings touching this and its not glued to anything else they should work right. Also as each switch is on white matter they can be rotated to any angle.

Hope it helps buddy
2011-04-14 14:37:00

Author:
Sean88
Posts: 662


Thanks, I went back through the level and deleted all the switches and replaced them. To stop it sticking to other stuff I shrunk it down a notch. But sticking it back is still temperamental, still falls off after the glue sound. But I managed to get it to stick properly and saved immediately after and haven't touched them again until it's time for play mode. I intend to not touch in create mode as this causes problems. Since re-doing them I've not had to cut holes out behind it. so all good so far.

2011-04-14 18:53:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


Thanks, I went back through the level and deleted all the switches and replaced them. To stop it sticking to other stuff I shrunk it down a notch. But sticking it back is still temperamental, still falls off after the glue sound. But I managed to get it to stick properly and saved immediately after and haven't touched them again until it's time for play mode. I intend to not touch in create mode as this causes problems. Since re-doing them I've not had to cut holes out behind it. so all good so far.



Nice one, but as mentioned above, this deffo sounds like a case of the sponge becoming stuck the the wall behind it - i had this issue throughout my level, lost some hair over it too - instead of using the hold down X glue method get the advanced glue tool out from your popit and glue the base of the switch to the wall.. that way the sponge part remains glue free.

Doog lucks!
2011-04-15 09:54:00

Author:
Unknown User


You do know that you can avoid gluing to everything (and instead only to specific surfaces) by holding the left analog stick in the direction of the object you want to glue to?

So, if you were to place a switch on a floor, hold the analog stick down towards the floor while pressing X. You will never glue to your background again. This is essentially the same thing as using the advanced glue tool, and what we used to do in LBP1 before it existed.
2011-04-15 14:41:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


Great tip, thanks. Never knew that. I'll do that instead or use the advanced glue tool.2011-04-15 23:29:00

Author:
LittleBigDes
Posts: 920


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