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Anonymous hacking group are targeting Sony, To give users more freedom by trying to attack Sony and messing thing up for the users.......... yeah that sounds like good logic


Dear Greedy Mother****ers SONY,

Congratulations! You are now receiving the attention of Anonymous. Your recent legal actions against fellow internet citizens, GeoHot and Graf_Chokolo have been deemed an unforgivable offense against free speech and internet freedom, primary sources of free lulz (and you know how we feel about lulz.)

You have abused the judicial system in an attempt to censor information about how your products work. You have victimized your own customers merely for possessing and sharing information, and continue to target those who seek this information. In doing so you have violated the privacy of thousands of innocent people who only sought the free distribution of information. Your suppression of this information is motivated by corporate greed and the desire for complete control over the actions of individuals who purchase and use your products, at least when those actions threaten to undermine the corrupt stranglehold you seek to maintain over copywrong, oops, "copyright".

Your corrupt business practices are indicative of a corporate philosophy that would deny consumers the right to use products they have paid for, and rightfully own, in the manner of their choosing. Perhaps you should alert your customers to the fact that they are apparently only renting your products? In light of this assault on both rights and free expression, Anonymous, the notoriously handsome rulers of the internet, would like to inform you that you have only been "renting" your web domains. Having trodden upon Anonymous' rights, you must now be trodden on.

If you disagree with the disciplinary actions against your private parts domains, then we trust you can also understand our motivations for these actions. You own your domains. You paid for them with your own money. Now Anonymous is attacking your private property because we disagree with your actions. And that seems, dare we say it, "wrong." Sound familiar?

Let Anonymous teach you a few important lessons that your mother forgot:
1. Don't do it to someone else if you don't want it to be done to you.
2. Information is free.
3. We own this. Forever.

As for the "judges" and complicit legal entities who have enabled these cowards: You are no better than SONY itself in our eyes and remain guilty of undermining the well-being of the populace and subverting your judicial mandate.


We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive.
We do not Forget.
Expect us.

What a alot of BS they just showing themself up with this, and this is the guy they want to help he a real A hole with a big ego



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg		2011-04-04 21:12:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

Funny how when this all started they go around preaching they will win, Sony can't win, We do this all for homebew, blah blah blah. Then once Sony starts winning little victories on this (Taking Hotz' electronics, tracking visitors to his site, etc.) They now start resorting to threats.

As the future of gaming evolves, they're will be more and more risks for the game companies if their system gets hacked (Their online, peoples's account such as banning/credit card info etc.) And their systems will eventually get hacked over the years as new technology advances, almost focing them to make new hardware (Won't surprise me one bit if the PS4 is revealed this year, another nail for the economy). So unless the comapnies take action to the people hacking, then their either be less feature in the future (no online, no downloadable stuff etc.) or the system will die completly. Hackers need to learn they can't win everything reagardless on whatever method they use		2011-04-04 21:29:00

Author:
JKthree
Posts: 1125

I LOLed. i hope all them hackers go to jail if they keep trying this junk.
honestly they are nothing more then selfish trolls who have no life.
one should not need to hack in order to enjoy a product, enough said.
*mew		2011-04-04 21:29:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261

Remember in that one thread where I said I'd gain a little faith in humanity back someday, when I saw someone standing up against this type of thing?

That faith has been restored.

Time to boot up the ol' LOIC, Anon. You have my sword.		2011-04-04 22:03:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

looks like they started on US PSBlog lets see how long befor they get bord2011-04-04 22:17:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

All semantics on the morality of hacking aside...

What egomaniac 5 year old wrote that letter and signed it as Anonymous? I mean, Anonymous is respectable for presenting mature and moralistic arguments in their press releases. See an example here (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/anonymous-sends-an-open-letter-to-the-westboro-chu). This sometimes comes close, but then derails itself continuously into a debacle on how awesome they are. This was written by some moron who is apparently so disappointed with the outcome of his life he feels the need to inflate his ego behind the guise of more intelligent elements. "Copywrong"? "Notoriously handsome rulers of the Internet"? "We own this"? It's like if Uwe Boll joined Anon. Really, I've seen the true Anon more verbally composed over things tens times as bad.

If you're going to go vigilante, make yourself presentable.		2011-04-04 22:32:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

i believe you guys don't understand the point, yes, it is threats... but sony has been changing everything to make sure no one can mod their system if they want to, even if it is just giving it a new case or something of the like... yes you don't need to hack a system to enjoy it, but you bought it, shouldn't you decide wheter or not you CAN mod it? voiding warranty is ok in my book, but what sony is doing is major BULL****

whew... that was un-brony like... but still.

i'm gonna recruit some bronies

edit: yes, their will be some casualties, but war requires sacrifice		2011-04-04 22:38:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

All semantics on the morality of hacking aside...

What egomaniac 5 year old wrote that letter and signed it as Anonymous? I mean, Anonymous is respectable for presenting mature and moralistic arguments in their press releases. See an example here (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/anonymous-sends-an-open-letter-to-the-westboro-chu). This sometimes comes close, but then derails itself continuously into a debacle on how awesome they are. This was written by some moron who is apparently so disappointed with the outcome of his life he feels the need to inflate his ego behind the guise of more intelligent elements. "Copywrong"? "Notoriously handsome rulers of the Internet"? "We own this"? It's like if Uwe Boll joined Anon. Really, I've seen the true Anon more verbally composed over things tens times as bad.

If you're going to go vigilante, make yourself presentable.

from what i hear it some EX-Anonymous but they still calling themself Anonymous i have to say he sound like some 15 year old someone thinking they in the right but so far up they own a** to see how wrong they are

its not the real Anonymous youtube page or website


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcSCUU4Fg9k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVp8aSJyY-8		2011-04-04 22:39:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

i believe you guys don't understand the point, yes, it is threats... but sony has been changing everything to make sure no one can mod their system if they want to, even if it is just giving it a new case or something of the like... yes you don't need to hack a system to enjoy it, but you bought it, shouldn't you decide wheter or not you CAN mod it? voiding warranty is ok in my book, but what sony is doing is major BULL****

whew... that was un-brony like... but still.

i'm gonna recruit some bronies

edit: yes, their will be some casualties, but war requires sacrifice

Yes but they shouldn't be able to ruin an online experience for others. I agree they should be able to mod their own system, but if it effects anyone else, they are showing no respect whatsoever and deserve to be sued.

I just went to the Official Playstation website to log in and see who was online on my friends list and I couldn't even load the sign in page (it's not my computer either).		2011-04-04 22:52:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

And now it seems like now I can't access PSN. Thanks a lot, 4chan trash! /sigh2011-04-04 22:55:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

i believe you guys don't understand the point, yes, it is threats... but sony has been changing everything to make sure no one can mod their system if they want to, even if it is just giving it a new case or something of the like... yes you don't need to hack a system to enjoy it, but you bought it, shouldn't you decide wheter or not you CAN mod it? voiding warranty is ok in my book, but what sony is doing is major BULL****

whew... that was un-brony like... but still.

i'm gonna recruit some bronies

edit: yes, their will be some casualties, but war requires sacrifice

I hate this type of bull the only thing anyone use hacked system was to play pirated games dont give me the BS about back up's		2011-04-04 22:59:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

Just want to pop in and say that there's no "official" Anon page, no official channels. That would miss the point of Anon completely.

Rock, this piece of 4chan trash would appreciate a refrain from name-calling. 		2011-04-04 22:59:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

Just want to pop in and say that there's no "official" Anon page, no official channels. That would miss the point of Anon completely.

Rock, this piece of 4chan trash would appreciate a refrain from name-calling.

You would, wouldn't you? >_>		2011-04-04 23:01:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882

I hate this type of bull the only thing anyone use hacked system was to play pirated games dont give me the BS about back up's

adly, a lot of hackers do, but this is for mods, not pirates. leave them out of it		2011-04-04 23:06:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

Thought I'd say this before mass hysteria ensues

PSN currently undergoing sporadic maintenance. Access to the PSN may be interrupted throughout the day. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Source: http://twitter.com/PlayStation		2011-04-04 23:07:00

Author:
JKthree
Posts: 1125

The giant enemy crab its weakened!2011-04-04 23:11:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

Thought I'd say this before mass hysteria ensues

PSN currently undergoing sporadic maintenance. Access to the PSN may be interrupted throughout the day. We apologize for any inconvenience.

Source: http://twitter.com/PlayStation

They could also very well just be covering this up as simply "maintenance." I personally doubt it's just a coincidence.		2011-04-04 23:22:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

4chan is crap, 'anonymous' is bollocks, and won't achieve anything. Something from 'anonymous' was brought up on Ultimate-Guitar, and nothing came from them on that either. These are jsut empty threats and are pointless, Sony will just ignore them and carry on like any sensible company would do.2011-04-04 23:30:00

Author:
Unknown User

The crackers of Anon are a decent bunch. This guy is a show off idiot with messed up ideals who is gonna get a thrashing for disorting the ideals of our group.
I'll need to check on that though for the sake of correctness.
Oh and as for the server status of sony, no comment.		2011-04-04 23:33:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

Oh dear. I knew it what happening, but I didn't think it would have stricken this fast.

Well, at least it saves me from making the thread myself now:


Hackers have taken down Sony and PlayStation.com which has consequently taken the PlayStation Network offline.

Speaking on an IRC chat a group of hackers, who are known as Anonymous, have successfully taken down several Sony-owned websites. One of which is PlayStation.com as well as Sony.com (although the site is slowly coming back). The attack is caused via a DDoS attack which is a distributed denial-of-service attack.

Also, the PlayStation Network is experiencing connection issues for PS3 owners. Sony tweeted:


PSN currently undergoing sporadic maintenance. Access to the PSN may be interrupted throughout the day. We apologize for any inconvenience.

The hackers stated that the attacks won?t stop until ?sony do a press release?.

Source: http://vghq.net/2011/04/04/hackers-take-down-sony-and-playstation-com-psn-goes-offline/

Goddam these guys work fast. It felt like hours ago (not even a day) when I saw this over at 4chan:

http://vghq.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Anonymous-Sony.png

S**t.... 		2011-04-04 23:41:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

*sigh* Oh no a ddos whatever will we do.2011-04-05 00:00:00

Author:
BlackWolfe
Posts: 299

Yeah, but, we are misunderstood. You have to work fast if you want to take somthing down, thats how it is.
If I were to threaten a site in that manner I would act fast. It makes a point and being fast helps you get past systems. Faster you are, less time for others to identify you.
Sorry, being a member I am generally on their side.

NOTE
I do not agree totally with our actions this time because it messes with mah LBP!
I will shout at the participants after this is sorted.		2011-04-05 00:04:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

and, it is't fake... at least a hundred are LOICing right now... if you want to join, here (http://irc.lc/anonops/opsony)

there is also a radio for news HERE (http://radio.anonops.in/)

go ANONYMOUS!		2011-04-05 00:12:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

*sigh* Oh no a ddos whatever will we do.

^Ignorant.


Yeah, but, we are misunderstood. You have to work fast if you want to take somthing down, thats how it is.
If I were to threaten a site in that manner I would act fast. It makes a point and being fast helps you get past systems. Faster you are, less time for others to identify you.
Sorry, being a member I am generally on their side.

So you're siding with them? For what? Everybody's arguing thanks to these guys. Unlike the other pranks and attacks they've done, everybody on 4chan is actually fighting because of this. The reason they are is because the Anons who did this didn't receive the okay from /b/. It's how it usually works. Instead, they did it without waiting for everybody to support it. Now, everybody's arguing about who's right and who's wrong.

This is just another example of why hackers are not accepted in the gaming industry as much as they used to be: people take sides and fight about it. Thanks to the Anons, MS fans are insulting Sony fans who are now taking the fight over at /b/. "Anonymous" is bickering with the "Ex-Anonymous", and gaming sites (and news sites) are "reporting this" *cough copypasta* already. People at Kotaku are bringing in the music industry into this for some reason, and we have a other forums complaining about it.

While I doubt the network will stay down long, it does display a perfect example of what would happen if an industry is attack, specifically one that is a powerhouse. Overall, the people will act, companies will sue, and above all we will literally have a console war going on (not a reference/joke here people). And sadly, I'm afraid that if it does come to this, Sony fans will hack MS back, something we do not want since it'll only bring us down to the Anon's level. 		2011-04-05 00:15:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Oh shut up. Supporting things like this is retarded. All it's gonna achieve is more stringent security measures from Sony, and less ability to do anything. It'll end up the same as piracy on the PC. People pirate the games, so devs start making them for consoles and making ports. PC gamers decide they don't like getting ports, so they pirate more. Devs lose more money from PC games, so the ports get worse, and so on. People do this with Sony, it gets worse. Hack them, they'll make it harder. Hack them again, and they'll make it harder again.

I haven't seen Xbox Live hacked, it wouldn't surprise me if stuff like this just changes the way the PSN is done and makes it all paid... I dunno, I'm tired, but there is a point in there somewhere.

Anyone who supports piracy and/or hacking like this is an idiot. I don't care how much you think this might be 'morally right', it isn't. It's stupid, and it's immature. Sony want to take them to court, Sony take them to court. If they have a case and Sony lose, fair enough. If they don't, and Sony win, then that's their fault. They should man the hell up and get it done with, rather than making a bunch of stupid, dim-witted ******** from 'anonymous' do something for them, which realistically just ruins things for the rest of the PSN users.		2011-04-05 00:23:00

Author:
Unknown User

I am only partially siding with Anon. There is an internal conflict going on for me personally.
K?
When Anon does stuff I don't agree with it gets me inside. This is a sensitive topic for me and I want to have a balanced veiw here.
You need to understand the ethos and our ideals to "get" this. Its a shame that the new generation is not so close to the our ideals.		2011-04-05 00:25:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

To 'get' this?

Let's not mess around here, there is nothing to get. 'anon' are messing up the service for everyone, just because Sony are taking people to court (or whatever they are doing). People who are complete idiots and deserve it. There is nothing to get, 'anon' are idiots.		2011-04-05 00:28:00

Author:
Unknown User

Anon is not full of idiots.
It is full of short sighted egoistic ****heads. However older members such as myself who were there at the start of this whole thing (Going back decades here) Are more educated and sensible and are the kind of guys who can give a nice statement to the police and are still close to the ideals of freedom of information.
That is what I mean.		2011-04-05 00:35:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

I am only partially siding with Anon. There is an internal conflict going on for me personally.
K?
When Anon does stuff I don't agree with it gets me inside. This is a sensitive topic for me and I want to have a balanced veiw here.
You need to understand the ethos and our ideals to "get" this. Its a shame that the new generation is not so close to the our ideals.

I don't see why you can even feel the need to mention that you are a part of this group when nothing they have done is the right thing to do. Yes it would be cool if hacks could actually help others, but this is immature and irresponsible of them and their "ideals" are lost and have been for awhile. I clearly don't know much about this but I know enough not to support such a group. There's nothing you can say that can change other people's opinions of "Anon" or "EX-Anons" or whatever because you are only asking to be ridiculed by others in this thread. If I were you, I'd think again about considering yourself a member of "Anon." (Not trying to be mean but it's true). You said it yourself that stuff like this "gets you inside" so there's no point in exposing yourself to this.		2011-04-05 00:37:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

@B3, swweet, and unXpectiD

You guys are obviously not getting it. This is too far, even for the Anons.

I've been a 4chan user (not proud but not ashamed) and I was active during their past pranks. At first, some of them were funny and I enjoyed them. But then some of them were a bit harsh and stupid. But I always thought as Anonymous as something interesting. While they did do things that people sometimes got mad about (well, pretty much all the time) they did help bring justice to some other things. I respect their actions for those reasons.

But now? I honestly hate what the new Anons did. The ex-Anons didn't go around and **** with a company because of a game. It's almost "natural" for a hacker to come and hack the console, only to have the company release a new one. Anon, however, ruined that whole cycle by attacking Sony. It's stupid and pointless in my eyes, because they'll gain nothing from it, only a new vision from people who used to think Anonymous was about expression of ideas. IMO, they're now immature and selfish, and they do NOT deserve to be recognized as the Anonymous back then.

EDIT: And unXpectiD, you are definitely not an Anon member. While the position is open to everybody, nobody admits at being one. Only a poser (or a new user) does.		2011-04-05 00:38:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Cyber: The difference is that this time Sony is taking legal action.

Also, lol'ing at "old anonymous". So much implying here that all the greentext in the world couldn't cover it.

EDIT: Obvious image for this story, Cyber is on the left, me and theswweet are on the right.

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-07-11/1247311540340.jpg		2011-04-05 00:40:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

You guys are obviously not getting it. This is too far, even for the Anons.

I've been a 4chan user (not proud but not ashamed) and I was active during their past pranks. At first, some of them were funny and I enjoyed them. But then some of them were a bit harsh and stupid. But I always thought as Anonymous as something interesting. While they did do things that people sometimes got mad about (well, pretty much all the time) they did help bring justice to some other things. I respect their actions for those reasons.

But now? I honestly hate what the new Anons did. The ex-Anons didn't go around and **** with a company because of a game. It's almost "natural" for a hacker to come and hack the console, only to have the company release a new one. Anon, however, ruined that whole cycle by attacking Sony. It's stupid and pointless in my eyes, because they'll gain nothing from it, only a new vision from people who used to think Anonymous was about expression of ideas. IMO, they're now immature and selfish, and they do NOT deserve to be recognized as the Anonymous back then.

When you say "you guys" who exactly are you speaking too?
I don't need to know Anon's past to know that they're doing the wrong thing now. I completely understand what you're saying about them being good in the past and that's why I'm not ripping on "them." This "new generation" is the current generation and what the problem is today. Yeah they're probably giving the group a bad name but you said it yourself that they already had a bad name (even if they were only doing harmful pranks). Sony shouldn't have to deal with any of this and nor should any other company unless something they're doing is morally wrong or deemed unfair by a majority.		2011-04-05 00:45:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

Sadly that does seem true but, this is one of the many things I helped to begin. At the heart of it Anon is my group and even if its getting messed up I won't change that.
Its something I could almost be proud of.
And I'm going to open a new tab and send some complaints out to the ****heads of Anon.
P.s I want something to be proud of and at my health, I doubt I'll be around long enough to complete whatever punishment I may recive. So I'm trying to have a bit of fun!		2011-04-05 00:46:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

Can everyone going on about the new anonymous please go back to Reddit or wherever it is newfriends gather now? Because this is the exact same thing Anon would have done years ago.

The right thing.

If you really think there's a difference from the... "ex-Anonymous", as I suppose people are calling self-made newfriends now, and the Anons of today, you are mistaken beyond all rational.

EDIT: On that note, I'm gonna take a leave of absence before "You have received an infraction...". These threads are close to my heart, I guess I feel like I need to defend Anon against the neigh-sayers. I apologize if I offended anyone in my posts, and will refrain from posting further.		2011-04-05 00:49:00

Author:
Voltergeist
Posts: 1702

When you say "you guys" who exactly are you speaking too?


@B3, swweet, and unXpectiD


Sadly that does seem true but, this is one of the many things I helped to begin. At the heart of it Anon is my group and even if its getting messed up I won't change that.
Its something I could almost be proud of.
And I'm going to open a new tab and send some complaints out to the ****heads of Anon.


EDIT: And unXpectiD, you are definitely not an Anon member. While the position is open to everybody, nobody admits at being one. Only a poser (or a new user) does.

That'll explain things.		2011-04-05 00:51:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

Your suppression of this information is motivated by corporate greed and the desire for complete control over the actions of individuals who purchase and use your products, at least when those actions threaten to undermine the corrupt stranglehold you seek to maintain over copywrong, oops, "copyright".

OHHH, I see. So you guys are doing this for my benefit, as an individual who purchases and uses Sony products. I didn't realize that the first time I read your letter because you have the grammar skills of 5-year-old (Except 5-year-olds have a more mature sense of humor). Well, I really appreciate you looking out for me and all, but I have an idea: When I need your help, I'll ask for it; don't "volunteer" your services on my behalf. You see, while you're "fighting the good fight" to ensure that I can do what I want on the console I own, you've taken away my ability to do what I want on the console I own, which is play games online.

Now, I know this is only a temporary thing, and we'll all be better off in the end because of what you're doing. There's only one problem: WE WON'T. See, when you introduce and "share" these methods of piracy, the cost of games go up for people like me, or worse, they don't get released for the console at all (see the PC for example). So let's just grow up a little bit, shall we?		2011-04-05 01:02:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149

All semantics on the morality of hacking aside...

What egomaniac 5 year old wrote that letter and signed it as Anonymous? I mean, Anonymous is respectable for presenting mature and moralistic arguments in their press releases. See an example here (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/anonymous-sends-an-open-letter-to-the-westboro-chu). This sometimes comes close, but then derails itself continuously into a debacle on how awesome they are. This was written by some moron who is apparently so disappointed with the outcome of his life he feels the need to inflate his ego behind the guise of more intelligent elements. "Copywrong"? "Notoriously handsome rulers of the Internet"? "We own this"? It's like if Uwe Boll joined Anon. Really, I've seen the true Anon more verbally composed over things tens times as bad.

If you're going to go vigilante, make yourself presentable.

Aha!
That's it, I know who wrotte that!


http://www2.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/charlie-sheen-breakdown-rs0208.jpg
Ta da!

This was written by some moron who is apparently so disappointed with the outcome of his life he feels the need to inflate his ego behind the guise of more intelligent elements.
Fits the bill perfectly! 		2011-04-05 01:02:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Aha!
That's it, I know who wrotte that!


http://www2.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/charlie-sheen-breakdown-rs0208.jpg
Ta da!

Fits the bill perfectly!


Hehe good one. 		2011-04-05 01:05:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

Aha!
That's it, I know who wrotte that!


http://www2.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/charlie-sheen-breakdown-rs0208.jpg
Ta da!

Fits the bill perfectly!


It actually does fit it. Does the phrases "Winning!" mean something?		2011-04-05 01:06:00

Author:
Spazz
Posts: 484

Howcome hackers have to be so greedy? If they want to hack an offline game for a different experience in an offline game so it won't affect others or give them an added advantage over others online, then isn't that okay? But when it comes to hackers hacking into PSN, and online games cheating, its an unfair advantage, it just ruins things for others.2011-04-05 01:07:00

Author:
Unknown User

Howcome hackers have to be so greedy? If they want to hack an offline game for a different experience in an offline game so it won't affect others or give them an added advantage over others online, then isn't that okay? But when it comes to hackers hacking into PSN, and online games cheating, its an unfair advantage, it just ruins things for others.

I'm actually okay with hackers reverse engineering the consoles. You can learn a LOT from it, and the hacks online are usually fun (others are annoying however). When Sony decided to sue the original hackers, I didn't care much about it. After all, what's so wrong with protecting your OWN product?

This attack however is nothing to be supportive of. By doing this, Sony will counteract with something, thus provoking Anonymous even more. So it's not even a "war" of who's right anymore; it's about the stupidity of two groups (Sony and Anonymous) who'll stop at nothing to be the victor.		2011-04-05 01:18:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

*Reads cyber's post*
Stop it please, I don't want this. I wanted to have a civil discussion and possibly some fun with bragging rights. You don't wan't that to happen so.
/Ragequit		2011-04-05 01:20:00

Author:
unXpectiD
Posts: 1132

*sigh* are me and B3 the only ones that get what sonys doing is wrong, and they need to be punished... i'm watching the chaos, see you guys later2011-04-05 01:24:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

*sigh* are me and B3 the only ones that get what sonys doing is wrong, and they need to be punished... i'm watching the chaos, see you guys later

Please tell me what exactly they're doing "wrong."		2011-04-05 01:26:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

*sigh* are me and B3 the only ones that get what sonys doing is wrong, and they need to be punished... i'm watching the chaos, see you guys later

I guess so. Why don't you enlighten us?		2011-04-05 01:29:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149

Oh, and unXpectiD, do you know what "Anonymous" means?
Because you're doing it wrong.

I mean one of the points of being Anonymous is, well...being Anonymous, you know? xD
That's also kinda what the mask stands for.
(Well, that and V for Vendetta. )		2011-04-05 01:31:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

I think you're the one going about it the wrong way though, unXpectiD. Because you see, Cyber is completely right. This doesn't resemble a fight for rights anymore. It's more reminiscent, instead, of modern-world politics, where neither side is right, nor do they aim to be. Rather, it's just a petty playground game, chock full of senseless loyalism and stubbornness, to see who wins. It's like in the Russian or Chinese revolutions, where they say, "Oh, oh, we're the oppressed~ , we need to rise up~, even if it does mean we might get a bit screwed over in the end" and then you find out that -GASP!- the revolutionaries are just as moronic as the idiots they set out to replace. Fight for your darned rights, I don't give a flying rat's behind, but don't sacrifice MY rights - the right to play with friends, the right to enjoy my property - to do so. Because when you rescind my rights, you become no better than the enemies you seek to damage.2011-04-05 01:32:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

*sigh* ok then, so you guys think taking away an advertised feature is right? what about sueing someone that just brought said feature back? how about turning the law into their favor, against the very constitution? (taking geohotz HD is against the 5th ammendment) i don't know abou you but thats bad in my book... and then there is the fact that they say you don't OWN the playstation you bought, your just RENTING it

get it now?		2011-04-05 01:33:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

From my understanding, you (swweet), B3, and unXpectiD are favoring the Anonymous because of Sony's suing (unXpectiD is only favoring because he's an ex-Anon). I find that logic BS, because Anonymous is putting Sony employees at risk of losing their jobs by pulling this crap, because Sony's losing profit trying to fix this problem (and the case they might lose will make it worse). Sony has the right to sue for their own console. They did say in their Terms of Service (cannot access the site to get link) that you may not hack the PS3 for any online advantage or piracy, something the hackers are doing now.

IMO, you guys are just siding with Anons because you don't care. Fine by me, everybody has an opinion. But bragging about it like you were apart of it just makes you guys look like jerks.

And yes, this argument will probably get the thread locked. But I don't care. It deserves to be locked.		2011-04-05 01:36:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

*sigh* ok then, so you guys think taking away an advertised feature is right? what about sueing someone that just brought said feature back? how about turning the law into their favor, against the very constitution? (taking geohotz HD is against the 5th ammendment) i don't know abou you but thats bad in my book... and then there is the fact that they say you don't OWN the playstation you bought, your just RENTING it

get it now?

Yet again, he DID kinda flee to South America, so dunno how much credibility to give GeoHot tbh.
He was begging for $$$ a while back, supposedly for lawyers if I'm not mistaken, what did he do with it?
That same money was used for his "Vacation" in the south, so...yeah, not really something a so called "hero of hackers" would do, now is it?

(Ps: I'm Neither with Sony, Anonymous, and/ or Hackers on this one, both right and wrong and whatever, I don't really support or are against either, tbh, so right now, I'm just a neutral party)		2011-04-05 01:40:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Hm.

I read this as "Anonymous Back-packing group..."

That's good I was wrong, thought you all were fighting over back-packing.		2011-04-05 01:40:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

nice argument, too bad its flawed

geohotz has never accessed psn, he has no account... therefore he did not agree to the ToS

and plus, he never wanted his exploit (which WASN'T the root key, that was another group) to play pirated games, he tried his best to block those.

and lastly, its not just because of the suing, its the fact they looked at the IP adresses of those that watched his videos... thats right, that geo-rap earlier in the thread? sony is watching you.

moral: verify your facts		2011-04-05 01:41:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

http://i55.tinypic.com/29m61q0.gif

These arguements make for entertaining viewing.		2011-04-05 01:47:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Well I can't sign into lbp.me now - so I'm supposed to thank this group for disrupting my entertainment for the evening? :kz:

Anyway - keep it civil guys (and knock off the language) or this is going to get locked faster than you can say anonymous.		2011-04-05 01:49:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

and for geohotz fleeing to south america?


And, finally, Geohot himself has now commented on his blog.

Quote:
Apparently, I have fled the country. ROFL

Factually, it's true I'm in South America, on a vacation I've had planned and paid for since November. I mean, it is Spring break; hacking isn't my life. Rest assured that not a dime of legal defense money would ever go toward something like this. And of course Townsend loves the idea of painting me as an international fugitive. I have been in contact with my lawyers almost every day; I would not let the case suffer. That said, I also won't let this ridiculous lawsuit run my life either. Then the fearmongerers win.

I will be back, I hear it's hard to come by the Xperia Play down here.
So there you have it.

As for Sony's claims that Hotz has a PSN account under the name "Blickmaniac," they should probably take a closer look at the forum post they are using as evidence, since the geotag in the picture posted by the user leads to Cambridge, MA. That's not even close to New Jersey the last time we checked. So, yeah, life's good.		2011-04-05 01:49:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

Well I can't sign into lbp.me now - so I'm supposed to thank this group for disrupting my entertainment for the evening? :kz:

Anyway - keep it civil guys or this is going to get locked faster than you can say anonymous.

^I like him he makes a good point. 		2011-04-05 01:50:00

Author:
WoodburyRaider
Posts: 1651

nice argument, too bad its flawed

geohotz has never accessed psn, he has no account... therefore he did not agree to the ToS

and plus, he never wanted his exploit (which WASN'T the root key, that was another group) to play pirated games, he tried his best to block those.

and lastly, its not just because of the suing, its the fact they looked at the IP adresses of those that watched his videos... thats right, that geo-rap earlier in the thread? sony is watching you.

moral: verify your facts

If his exploit was not intended to pirate software, then what was it's purpose?		2011-04-05 01:51:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149

nice argument, too bad its flawed

geohotz has never accessed psn, he has no account... therefore he did not agree to the ToS

and plus, he never wanted his exploit (which WASN'T the root key, that was another group) to play pirated games, he tried his best to block those.

and lastly, its not just because of the suing, its the fact they looked at the IP adresses of those that watched his videos... thats right, that geo-rap earlier in the thread? sony is watching you.

moral: verify your facts

No, Geohotz does possibly have a PSN account. Verify your facts.
http://vghq.net/2011/03/23/george-hotz-runs-away-to-south-america-lies-about-having-psn-account/

That was the first link I found. It's all over the place. Of course the guy is gunna deny it's his, but considering this, it's unlikely.

The guy is a ******. At the end of the day, it's actually spoiling it for others, which is exactly what the hackers a fighting for - not spoiling it for others. They're hypocrites, and should be jailed and beaten to death with sackboy dolls by sony representatives.		2011-04-05 01:51:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767

*sigh* are me and B3 the only ones that get what sonys doing is wrong, and they need to be punished... i'm watching the chaos, see you guys later

You and your cronies should leave this thread in protest :/ For the cause and all.

Sony has provided me with years of enjoyment.
Hackers have made things more difficult and overall pi**ed me off.

.......Clear winner.		2011-04-05 01:53:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

read my post, that image links to states away from where he lives... i.e. the account is fake2011-04-05 01:53:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468

Funny, I noticed that the people who are siding with Anonymous are teenagers (they haven't hit 18 yet), while majority of the people who disagree are 18+.

Hmm... I think I see why they're siding with them. 		2011-04-05 02:02:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551

read my post, that image links to states away from where he lives... i.e. the account is fake

I'm not sure which your referring to, I couldn't find it.

But this:

He explained that he had purchased one of these consoles new in February 2010 and provided the serial number for that console. Id. SCEA used that serial number to determine that on February 25, 2010, Hotz purchased the PS3 System at a Gamestop store just miles from his home. Law Decl., ?6; Bricker Decl., ?6, Exh. E. SCEA’s records show that the same PS3 System was used on March 10, 2010 to create a PSN account under the user name “blickmanic.” Law Decl., ?6, Exh. A. The IP address associated with the registration is located in Glen Rock, New Jersey, where Hotz lives.

Hotz’s ownership of the “blickmanic” account is further supported by the fact that an Internet search of the user name “blickmanic” reveals a posting discussing the jailbreaking of cellular phones – Hotz’s original “claim to fame.” Bricker Decl., ?7, Exh. F (“Just curious what people would pay for exclusive rights to this solution. [Motorola] Tracfone W175g unlocked and debranded. PM me.” As discussed above, to create his PSN account, Hotz was required to first agree to the terms of the PSN User Agreement and thus he is clearly subject to personal jurisdiction in California. It is well established that a valid and enforceable forum selection clause operates as consent to personal jurisdiction in a designated forum.


This seems good evidence he has one. Not only that, but c'mon, who would buy a PS3 and not activate an account. He blates did.

Also, anonymous is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen.
'We are Anonymous. We Are Legion.'
How god **** pretentious can you get?! It angers me that people support this. 4chan is where socially retarted people hang out to feel like they fit in, or they just want to look at disgusting illegal images, and they feel they are this legion of greatness. The only legions they are is spontaneously regressing epithelial legions.

They ruin it for others, while thinking they are the almighty ones. In reality, the only reason they do this is because they're too scared to show their face and confront things head on. Instead they are anonymous, like it's something to be proud of. They should be ashamed.		2011-04-05 02:05:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767

Seems nothing big really hapopend, i've been able to acess all these sites and sign on to PSN without problems today now that I remember.

I can imagine now:
Group of Hackers: Haha, we will teach Sony a lesson, they shall feel a mild inconvinience of us temporarly kinda taking down some of their sites and PSN for some people, that'll teach them!
Mwahahahaaha!

Sony Employee 1: Oh no, our sites and PSN was down for a short time, oh how mildy inconvenient!
Sony Employee 2: So, what should we do?
Sony Employee 1: Oh nothing, everything seems to be ok again.
Sony Employee 2: Oh...ok, boy that surely was mildly inconvinient.

Hacker 1: Ok, now what?
Hacker 2: Now we wait for them to set GeoHot back and allow us to install Linux again! >:3
Hacker3: We got them right were we want them...

2011-04-05 02:07:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

Anonymous are 4chan users, and unfortuanatly for them they are pretty much representing them here. Obviously people will disagree there, 4chan covers a huge range of people, but the point of 4chan is staying anonymous, and this is what the group attacking are going under. To most, this is viewed as 4chan. Also, I only say what I did because from experience, people who I know that go on 4chan fall under my description. Bar looking at horrible images.2011-04-05 02:33:00

Author:
ryryryan
Posts: 3767

That's funny.

Q: Did he have a PSN account?
Sony: Yes, he did.
Q: How do you know?
Sony: Well, this is his console, this is his serial number, this is his IP address, and this is the PSN account that was made using the IP Address with the serial number that came from that console.

Q: Did he have a PSN account?
Hacker-fan: No, he didn't.
Q: How do you know?
Hacker-fan: He blogged it.

Anyway, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he didn't have a PSN. So that means that he never got online with his console, and never got the firmware update that removed the "Install Other OS" feature. So he never really lost any "advertised features" in the first place. And I have no idea how collecting a HDD as evidence in a cyber-crime investigation could be taken as an illegal search and seizure.		2011-04-05 02:38:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149

*sigh* ok then, so you guys think taking away an advertised feature is right? what about sueing someone that just brought said feature back? how about turning the law into their favor, against the very constitution? (taking geohotz HD is against the 5th ammendment) i don't know abou you but thats bad in my book... and then there is the fact that they say you don't OWN the playstation you bought, your just RENTING it

get it now?

This isn't about what Sony is doing wrong. Whether you think of it as wrong or you don't, what it comes down to is that I cannot log into PSN because some people, hiding out behind screens, proxies, and walls of text, are hampering my entertainment and my spent cash in the name of some senseless and unnecessary vigilantism. Whatever Sony did, the hacking community is not responding in a responsible manner, because they end up trampling the people they defend in their overzealous quest for 'justice'.

We're not defending Sony. We're admonishing those who think they're justified but really aren't. Do you 'get it' now?		2011-04-05 02:55:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Well I can't sign into lbp.me now - so I'm supposed to thank this group for disrupting my entertainment for the evening? :kz:

Anyway - keep it civil guys (and knock off the language) or this is going to get locked faster than you can say anonymous.

When Morgana says language, it includes pictures of said language.		2011-04-05 03:05:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


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