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Due to the recent change to SNEA...

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..and to tis new terms of serive, it would seem I cannot nor will I accept these conditions.
I read through the entire thing, and it seems I can't really accept without facing some legal issues that may get me in some deep problems.

I mean really, have you heard that stuff, even if I wasn't in any danger, I would've not accpet the new terms anyways, they're ridiculous if you actually pay attention to it! :/
Seriously, SONY's starting to get on my nerves with this whole ordeal and whatnot, which is why I've given up on the online Services and online gaming on PSN, I'll still be around on the forums and all, you just won't see me online and stuff.
I may still keep playing offline, tho more than likely get an Xbox or a DS or something, at least I don't have to deal with this stuff there or worry about al that stuff if I wanna play online...
Anywho, just thought I'd post to let you guys who play with me online know, since I can't really message you via PSN, and also to vent a little at the new Terms of Service, which are kinda ridiculous imo...
That is all!


- Silverleon out. (from PSN at least.)

(So, anyone got a list of what DS/ 360 games I should get?
You know, like the "Must Have"?)
2011-04-01 22:51:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Wait, was it that bad? Bad enough to give up LBP and the entire PS3? Would you mind saying how exactly it is that bad? D:2011-04-01 23:13:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


What exactly are these changes you speak of?2011-04-01 23:44:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


Shame. Sorry to see you go.

I'm asking the same as the other guys though. What exactly did you disagree with?
2011-04-01 23:48:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


What exactly are these changes you speak of?

At a minumum they used find and replace to change all SCEA into SNEA.
2011-04-02 00:41:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Well, I tried to warn the people...

(get Halo)
2011-04-02 03:01:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


I think all of you may be forgetting something...2011-04-02 03:05:00

Author:
TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149


I think all of you may be forgetting something...

You're right! We can't let Sony continue to take out rights from us. We must rise up and revolt! Who's with me?
2011-04-02 03:08:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Oh yeah, its 1st of April where you guys live...2011-04-02 03:08:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


This is not an April Fools joke. They removed "Other OS" last year on April 1. In a nutshell:

They now reserve the right to charge for PSN in the future.

A bunch of good stuff/BS (YMMV) about hacking and changing the word "computer" to "network", giving them more power to sue.

Credit card information is required if you want to make sub-accounts.

It's really not enough to make you quit your PS3 imo, but it is still a little annoying that they can now charge for PSN if they want.
2011-04-02 03:24:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Oh... that is annoying... *feels stoopid*2011-04-02 03:26:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


Here's the full text of the hacking bit if anyone is interested in reading it.
? You may not upload, post, stream, or otherwise transmit any content that contains any viruses, worms, spyware, time bombs, or other computer programs that may damage, interfere with, or disrupt Sony Online Services.
? You may not use, make, or distribute unauthorized softwareor hardware, including Non-Licensed Peripherals and cheat code softwareor devices that circumvent any securityfeatures or limitations included on any software or devices, in conjunction with Sony Online Services, or take or use any data from Sony Online Services to design, develop or update such unauthorized software or hardware.
? You may not modify or attempt to modify the online client, disc, save file, server, client-server communication, or other parts of any game title, or content.
? You may not cause disruption to or modify or damage any account, system, hardware, software, or network connected to or provided by Sony Online Services for any reason, including for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage in a game.
? You may not attempt to hack or reverse engineer any code or equipmentin connection with Sony Online Services.
? You may not introduce content that could be harmful to SNEA or its affiliates or their licensors, or players, such as any code or virus that may damage, alter or change any property or interfere with the use of property or Sony Online Services.
? You may not conduct any activities that violate any local, state or federal laws, including copyright or trademark infringement, defamation, invasion of privacy, identity theft, hacking, stalking, fraud, stealing or using without purchasing, where payment is required, any content or service and distributing counterfeit software or Sony Online Services accounts.
2011-04-02 03:34:00

Author:
Arkei
Posts: 1432


Technically, you're not even allowed to access the PSN on your PS3 unless you are using only Sony approved hardware.

I had to throw out my expensive compaq wireless keyboard because it no longer served me a useful purpose as I am not allowed to use it while accessing the PSN.
2011-04-02 03:40:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


Here's the full text of the hacking bit if anyone is interested in reading it.
? You may not upload, post, stream, or otherwise transmit any content that contains any viruses, worms, spyware, time bombs, or other computer programs that may damage, interfere with, or disrupt Sony Online Services.
? You may not use, make, or distribute unauthorized softwareor hardware, including Non-Licensed Peripherals and cheat code softwareor devices that circumvent any securityfeatures or limitations included on any software or devices, in conjunction with Sony Online Services, or take or use any data from Sony Online Services to design, develop or update such unauthorized software or hardware.
? You may not modify or attempt to modify the online client, disc, save file, server, client-server communication, or other parts of any game title, or content.
? You may not cause disruption to or modify or damage any account, system, hardware, software, or network connected to or provided by Sony Online Services for any reason, including for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage in a game.
? You may not attempt to hack or reverse engineer any code or equipmentin connection with Sony Online Services.
? You may not introduce content that could be harmful to SNEA or its affiliates or their licensors, or players, such as any code or virus that may damage, alter or change any property or interfere with the use of property or Sony Online Services.
? You may not conduct any activities that violate any local, state or federal laws, including copyright or trademark infringement, defamation, invasion of privacy, identity theft, hacking, stalking, fraud, stealing or using without purchasing, where payment is required, any content or service and distributing counterfeit software or Sony Online Services accounts.

Thats seems fair, maybe I could start playing MGO again. If this makes it tougher for cheaters and hackers, I would approve.


I bought my ps3 post "Other OS" and use it for games, netflix, and music. I have got my $299 worth of entertainment, and then some. I am not concerned about the new network terms at all as I only use my PS3 for reasons they approve of. I could see not wanting to use psn if you use it for other reasons, but I don't think the average user will be effected.
2011-04-02 03:49:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


Now THIS is an April Fools.
Ya, I'm not leaving, and I'm not really in any trouble or anything, just wanted to make my story a little bit more mixed, to make it more believable, since plain out saying "I'm leaving" would be too obvious.

The SNEA thig isn't tho, SONY did put them in charge of PSN and stuff, it was only my "Not gonna be on PSN aymore" thing that was the joke.


(Hopeflly you guys didn't delete me from your lists. xD)

Well then I guess that joke's over with, was gonna let it run a bit longer for people in different time zones, but eh, you read above, so thx for the colaboration of the mods for not locking this, and to the genuine (at least genuine looking) which make both of my main April Fool Jokes in RL and online a success!

(tl;dr: I'm not really leaving and there really is new terms of service and PSN was indeed given to the SNEA branch.)

Happy April Fools Everyone!
2011-04-02 03:57:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I was fooled. :/2011-04-02 03:59:00

Author:
EinRobot
Posts: 739


*feels un-stoopid *2011-04-02 04:03:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


I thought April fools jokes were meant to be funny.
:|
trololol
2011-04-02 04:43:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


Now THIS is an April Fools.
Ya, I'm not leaving, and I'm not really in any trouble or anything, just wanted to make my story a little bit more mixed, to make it more believable, since plain out saying "I'm leaving" would be too obvious.



It was very well written but one detail instantly gave it away.


I read through the entire thing,
2011-04-02 08:00:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


It was very well written but one detail instantly gave it away.

Silver has already admitted to reading through Terms of Services all the way through
2011-04-02 08:30:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262


Yaru, you should donate to GeoHot since he gave you the chance to pull this joke 2011-04-02 08:55:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Silver has already admitted to reading through Terms of Services all the way through

Yup, I like to read all of that stuff throughly.
Call me paranoid, whic I kinda am, but I tend to make and be completly sure there's no sort of "trap," something I can really not approve of, or some hidddend thing in between the lines, you know?

I just like to be sure to fully know what I'm agreeing to.

@midnight_heist:
Well, I can tell you it was funny to me.
Besodes, I thought it was about fooling someoe, which is why its called April "Fools", right?
I "Fooled" people in to thinking something that wasn't, so mission accomplished imo. :3
2011-04-02 09:25:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


I really fell on the first post of yours. I'm a very very foolish coconuts.
Well played, Silverleon. But you won't get away with this!
2011-04-02 10:22:00

Author:
Coconuts
Posts: 384


Well I'll be. This is probably the best April Fools joke I've seen this year. Mostly because it was actually believable >_>

Anywho. Uh... Lol. Good show. :kz:
2011-04-02 12:40:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


lmao i am so gullable i believed this and i also believed somebody when they told me they thought they were pregnant >.<2011-04-04 02:59:00

Author:
ktmbillyjr
Posts: 177


Wait, was that 'approved software' thing also a 4/1 joke or was it true? I'll be completely destroyed if I can't use my keyboard or mic anymore.2011-04-04 20:44:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046


I sat for a whole minute trying to figure out if the PS3 actually has a time travelling device inside it when they mentioned time bombs in that list C: Apart from that, you got me before I knew it was a joke XD2011-04-04 20:59:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


Next year silver, next year...2011-04-05 20:07:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


Next year silver, next year...

I'll be waiting.

So awesome that this many fell for it (for me at least.)
I truly don't like to make obvious April Fool's jokes, since in that day its obviously a joke most of the times, that's why think it throughtly, and I atempt to gather the most believable story toghether so as to make it believable, glad to see it worked.
2011-04-06 21:33:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


*polite applause*

I was definitely fooled.
2011-04-07 02:29:00

Author:
Jaslow
Posts: 775


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