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The unwritten rules of lbp society (Moon etiquette)

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First of all before requesting to join your friend, use your PS button to check your friends status . If it says unavailable then leave them be. If available then send a message to see if it's cool to join.*

Here's a*"don't do without asking" list when you join someone on there moon -*
don't ask a lot of questions when the creator is off the mic,(takes time to reply)
*don't jump into every controlinater you see and hit un-pause over and over,*
don't run around while your friend is play testing something in play mode (followers),
*don't open circuit-boards (creator paranoia),*
don't copy anything (deal breaker for me)*
don't bring sketchy people with you.
don't start creating something on the side.(extra rewinding)
And If the creator hits rewind, don't make your last move again and again after every rewind.

Basically just stay out of your pulpit and in the air so I don't have to worry about you.
I have a few buds that I don't feel I have to watch and they are also always welcome to join me anytime because of that."


Feel free to add to this list or start a new one about another area of the game.
2011-03-26 10:31:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


Basically: Don't break my level Haha. Sounds like you're letting monkeys into your workshop.2011-03-26 10:47:00

Author:
Discosmurf
Posts: 210


Basically just stay out of your pulpit and in the air so I don't have to worry about you.
Tbh, that sounds dead boring to me.

I agree with most of the other things though.
2011-03-26 10:49:00

Author:
SR20DETDOG
Posts: 2431


Ahhaahaha! any of that is only true if the friend is a creator,
i have a good handful of friends who when you join their moon
they are just playing and goofing around, and you can go as far as start nuking
everything then they LOL and start doing it with you. but yeah, it pays to know
the differences of your friends, when they are a creator just float around and chat with them
when they are not busy, if they are busy just leave, waste of time being there if you are not helping
them and they are also to busy to hang out that min, tho i never had that problem with my creator friends,
if they let me join they are fine with chatting because if they were not,
they would not have let me join to start with, *mew
2011-03-26 10:50:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Basically I find hard to focus when I create even if I'm alone, and if I get focused I disconnect from reality, so I may not even notice what you say, do or whatever else.
So I wouldn't have problems in having people around, because they don't give me more problems than I already have...though I get embarassed by the fact that I can stay 2 hours straight looking at a blank level without doing anything...
2011-03-26 11:36:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


though I get embarassed by the fact that I can stay 2 hours straight looking at a blank level without doing anything...

I hear you there.

I never let anyone join me in one of my levels unless I've known them for a while or just get that "nice person" vibe from them.
2011-03-26 11:42:00

Author:
Devious_Oatmeal
Posts: 1799


...though I get embarassed by the fact that I can stay 2 hours straight looking at a blank level without doing anything...

He he he.... I seriously advice you to turn off the pause mode hum. It's hypnotic, you know brrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm... Hypno Toad!

It's either hypnosis or the 160 hr. bug!
2011-03-26 14:30:00

Author:
Discosmurf
Posts: 210


My important levels, I always have a copy. That's the one I take people into. If it's one I don't care about, it's all good. Generally though, I think when visiting other people, you should act mature. Like a guest, because that's what you are. Just because it's a game doesn't mean you don't have to use good manners. If you want to check something out, ask first. Always respect your hosts wishes. If a person's in create with me, and I don't like the way they're acting. It'll earn them a one way ticket off my friends list. Luckily I've never had any problems yet. All of the people I've met are pretty cool.2011-03-26 14:49:00

Author:
smasher
Posts: 641


Or, just create offline...2011-03-26 15:26:00

Author:
nextlevel88
Posts: 149


umm... I usually do all of that. (minus the copying part)2011-03-26 16:51:00

Author:
PPp_Killer
Posts: 449


Basically: Don't break my level Haha. Sounds like you're letting monkeys into your workshop.

I have buds that can join me anytime and do what they want because I fully trust them. But I have made some new buds that are killing me. They want to play play play. There 14-17 and they haven't learned how to just hand out with me without a frequent breaking noise followed by a "please rewind" message. I like the kids, they make me lol. I guess part of the problem is I'm just not used to play play play. I always feel like I'm more of a work work work hard work fun work boring work work work bug my friends to playtest work publish play type of guy.
2011-03-26 17:44:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


they haven't learned how to just hand out with me without a frequent breaking noise followed by a "please rewind" message.

I'm sorry.... did I break something last night?
2011-03-26 17:54:00

Author:
CCubbage
Posts: 4430


I'm guy creating much and another time playing much.

But it surprises me that I have like 335-340 hearted levels in my hearted page
And I have like 2 levels but those levels I had published have I deleted.
But I think I should create much more now see ya
And if you watch my activity?
I use just to look on the posts never post my self think its my 3 post here and I signed in here months ago.
2011-03-26 18:00:00

Author:
Seveni_7
Posts: 109


Wow cubby I didn't know you were 14-17yrs of age but you are a fairly new bud that is very respectful of a build. I just compared your visit with the others and It left me thinking all visits should be like that so I made this post.2011-03-26 18:31:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


Wow cubby I didn't know you were 14-17yrs of age but you are a fairly new bud that is very respectful of a build. I just compared your visit with the others and It left me thinking all visits should be like that so I made this post.

Centurion...Do you know me? O: it seems like that because how could you guess so good how I am?

Yes I'm 15 and soon 16 and understand that most off my age isn't what should I say?
Eehrm..Mature?
And I respect other when they creating and I use to help my friends more than I create on my own.

I'm just an unknown guy in the big community and you have never meet before and I have only played your levels in LBP.
That semms....hmm..odd.
Or is it someone else you reply?
2011-03-26 18:52:00

Author:
Seveni_7
Posts: 109


You can't really call those the "unwritten rules" any more now can you? Also, while there is some truth to your post, I disagree with the general theme. You're forgetting that this is a game and games are for having fun. You're basically asking your friends to sit there and do nothing while you have all the fun--you won't even let them ask what you're doing. What's the point of online create if that's how you're going to handle it?

So yeah, I agree that you shouldn't capture stuff without permission, and you should probably ask if you can try out the controllinators instead of just hopping in (though there's that whole typing with a controller thing that makes excessive conversation cumbersome), and you should wait until the level owner is done rewinding before you try to do anything, but I'm all for asking questions, building something on the side, and trying out controllinators/vehicles. If you don't want them doing any of those things, why are you even inviting/accepting them into your level?

As a side note, I pretty much accept the fact that once somebody joins me, I'm pretty much done with serious creation until they leave. I'll show them what I've been up to, get feedback or answer questions, and then they'll show what they've been up to and then we usually just end up messing around, tossing around ideas, or making new costumes or something. For that reason, if I really want to be in serious creator mode for a while, I just play offline.
2011-03-26 20:13:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


I always allow for my friends to put their own input and ideas in to my own levels and objects Mostly because I have very creative friends who only want my levels to be as good as they can be. I find that allowing an outside source put a little of their own mind in to your creations, it almost always is for the better. This may just be because I only allow trust worthy people in. If I feel like my level is not a good environment for my guests then I simply leave it and find a more suitable place to enjoy their company. I bend the rules depending on the person.2011-03-26 20:22:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


Imo there no point of forceing some etiquette on community, everyone have there own, one restrictive one less.If you don't want to be annoyed by everything simply put auto-reject you way to go.2011-03-26 20:28:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Imo there no point of forceing some etiquette on community, everyone have there own, one restrictive one less.If you don't want to be annoyed by everything simply put auto-reject you way to go. you're right. I posted this thread frustrated, half asleep and in bed late last night on my iPhone. I should of just labeled it something else like "friends that bug the hell out of you when your trying to create". If I go to your moon I would follow those rules and I guess i maybe asking to much. Im just spoiled by the level of perfesionalism people like ninjamcwz, Jaeyden, lightmare, cubby and RyanardoDavinci show me when they join.2011-03-26 21:12:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


Surely this thread is contradicting?2011-03-26 21:16:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


Surely this thread is contradicting?
Feel free to tear it apart. I try to keep an open mind.
2011-03-26 21:22:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


That is, of course, if your not also making the level.2011-03-26 21:24:00

Author:
Phazerz123
Posts: 440


you're right. I posted this thread frustrated, half asleep and in bed late last night on my iPhone. I should of just labeled it something else like "friends that bug the hell out of you when your trying to create". If I go to your moon I would follow those rules and I guess i maybe asking to much. Im just spoiled by the level of perfesionalism people like ninjamcwz, Jaeyden, lightmare, cubby and RyanardoDavinci show me when they join.

And this is why I don't friend people I don't know. Anyone who has been invited into my levels I trust to act professionally. If their friends try to join, I usually ask a few questions about them before I allow.

I guess I have major paranoia about people stealing my objects, because chances are they would publish something with it before me. And that's not cool.

The sad thing is that since I've returned to LBP, most of the people I would friend have full lists and so my circle of mature creators out there is pretty limited. I've seen a couple go recently too and that's disappointing.

Overall, I agree with what you've said, although I figure most of that stuff is understood by the people I associate with. Cocreate for me is a chance to discuss ideas or work out bugs - so there is some fun to be had by others when they join. Or, it's social time, but regardless, it can be tough to be productive when there are other people around.
2011-03-26 21:57:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


I prefer not to invite anyone to my moon, and I always keep the settings on "refuse all", when I'm creating. I feel that it is easier to be alone on the moon, since you do not have to worry about others breaking your unfinished creations (a very potential danger at least in my moon, due to the complex logic/mechanisms).2011-03-27 08:33:00

Author:
OrwellianStuff
Posts: 90


I don't do online create unless it's in a blank level space where everyone can just let their hair down and party. The thought of having someone breathing down my neck while I'm working on a serious project makes my skin crawl. Oh and if anyone ever captured something without my permission, I would kill them.2011-03-27 10:48:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130


I pretty much always create alone, but sometimes I invite loey1884 to do some graphic work for me, because he's good at it and I'm not. Sometimes he let's me work on the gameplay of his levels, becuae I'm better at that than him. We bothh genrally accept each others ideas and have fun doing it. No need to create a bunch of 'rules' that aren't needed. All the rules we do need are in the EULA, nothing more is needed.2011-03-27 10:48:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


I will agree some courtesy is important, it's just good manners in anything to ask before you do things. It's akin to someone coming over to your house and opening every drawer and going through your fridge without asking.

But that said... auto-reject. Though... if someone really presents such a burden, why even be friends with them?
2011-03-27 12:31:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Oh! If they don't listen, slap down the grabinators and throw them into a pit of spikes..... Good times, good times....2011-03-27 12:56:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


I will agree some courtesy is important, it's just good manners in anything to ask before you do things. It's akin to someone coming over to your house and opening every drawer and going through your fridge without asking.

But that said... auto-reject. Though... if someone really presents such a burden, why even be friends with them?
Well after publishing my Jedi duel level, I met one of them. He was playing it like 20x a day. It's the only level that is fun for me right now and he's the only one who gives me a challenge. I was lucky to find him. Him & his friends have all been working on star wars levels.
2011-03-27 16:17:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266


dont be sarcastic in create mode. when someone asks you what could make this fill out a little more? dont say turtles or something stupid.2011-04-25 05:13:00

Author:
Distinct-Creator
Posts: 198


I have to agree with the OP big time. I feel bad when I turn down friend requests (when I notice them)...but even with a note on my message saying "busy" or "working on level" I get hit with tons of requests, I email tehm saying I will be busy for a good time longer, but I still get join requests every few minutes. My PS3 is set to auto login, and for some reason auto-reject never seemed to stayon (but I also felt like a jerk for using it). I Want the option to stay online and be able to send messages out to friends and family that also use a PS3...so off line is not really an option. Everynow and then I disconnect my router because of the requests. There are several people that are good at sending messages, but several others that spam the envite option...part of the issue is the friend's list on LBP 2 where x is to envite...I have gone to leave a comment on a level they did just to hit the x buttton by accident, and then once I am joined, have to apologize because I was on my way out. I think some people here seem to not understand that the person is not sending out envites to join them in create...they are being joined in create. I have bad enough lag, and when someone joins me in create and does what the poster talks about it really sucks. I could be rude and kick them out, but most of the time I am not (will until my lag crashes my level and I lose an hour or so of work). If someone joins you they should not mess whit your level, they should not hit unpause, ask tons of questions, envite friends, ask you to leave your level...and so on. It is exactly like someone visiting your place and going through your stuff...and I could add to that saying it is like someone stopping by your house while you are watching a movie and having dinner, they go through your stuff, take your dinner, and change the channel...it is just rude. People should send requests via messages and read people's status...but even if they don't they should not do all the rest of the things listed.2011-04-25 06:07:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822


No one asks to join me.


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2011-04-25 06:25:00

Author:
tomodon246
Posts: 624


I have had some annoying people in my moon, but they don't mean any harm and they definitely wouldn't capture my things.2011-04-25 08:03:00

Author:
Radishlord
Posts: 706


I had to copy first message of this thread to my Moon, so now on I can put all read it and if they won't I just kick them and they have to know why . And I feel quilty too if I just put auto-reject, because it is sometimes annoying to me too if I am trying to join friend for fun and all friends are auto-rejecting.

I won't even keep friends who try to capture my things, that is last thing they can do, because they are mine.
2011-06-09 21:21:00

Author:
Lakera-13
Posts: 85


No guest in Create Mode should expect (and demand) a rewind from the group leader. If you go off building on someone else's moon, better keep that in mind by boxing in runaway objects, disabling self-destruction, etcetera. And just make no mistakes. For that reason I will never do any serious creating while I am a guest; I;ll just hop over to my own moon if work needs to get done.

If the group leader is creating music, do not make noises; as a matter of fact, creating music is so boring to guests, you'll probably be better off not grouping up in the first place.
2011-06-10 07:20:00

Author:
Antikris
Posts: 1340


Im anxious incase someone recently on my moon stole my idea.2011-06-10 08:06:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426


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