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As yet another creator who's been moderated (5 days now and still no messgae) i find some of the arguments for moderation spurious. If copyright is such an issue, why is there so much stuff on the store that can only encourage the creation of copyright material? Did MM seriously expect that no-one would make a MGS level? Or do copyright issues disappear once we have bought the dlc? My level didn't get deleted for copyright reasons, and as I haven't yet been given any i can only make assumptions. The level was called Happy St. Patricks Day. As you could probably guess, no gore, bad language, copyright or offensive material. It was a 'movie' level, consisting of an intro (St Patrick wearing the MM endorsed costume chasing some snakes off an Irish flag.) There were two jokes, one of which contained the word 'drink' refering obliquely but not explicitly to alcohol. No more explicit than the beer bottle lids available in game. the second joke was three english guys trying to rile an Irishman by (mildly) insulting St. Patrick. Using typical Irish wit he gets the better of them. The level was top of the cool pages for over 24 hours, and quite quickly got (I think) over 16,000 plays. a couple of people stated they thought it was anti-english, a couple thought it was anti-irish (probably the same type of person who thought the speech in my Merchant of Venice level was "rasis", despite the fact it's one of the most powerful anti-rascist speeches ever made! Now, supposing that it was indeed percieved as 'anti-irish', how could it be any more demeaning to St. Patrick than dressing him up as a leprechaun in the way that MM did? Furthermore, if that level of poking fun is acceptable against the irish, how so not the english? I think this level was reported purely in the spirirt of meanness as described above. Way to go, way to knock a level off the top perch. Now, even if the level DOES get put back on, which I highly doubt, I'm pretty sure it won't be put back on top of the cool pages again. One last thing, I have tried creating other movies since it was taken off, but it just isn't working. As soon as some effort goes in, there's a voice at the back of my mind reminding me that if I do a leve lthat starts to do well, the chances are it will be reported, deleted, and once again i will have no right of redress or defence. It seems that in my case, the haters win, I wonder how many others they've won against?

2011-03-23 19:00:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Sounds ridiculous. "An Irishman walked into a bar" jokes are the most common type you hear in the UK. I'm not sure what you could have done that was considered offensive enough to be moderated. What was the exact nature of the joke in the conversation between these characters in your level?

2011-03-23 19:12:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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Levels get yanked when they get repeatedly grieved. I'm not sure how long the audit process takes, but my guess is that it's not quick. Seeing that you got feedback from players hinting as to what the problem might be, I would think this is a good bet as to why it was pulled. Odds are those that provided negative comments are probably the same ones that filed grief reports. As ridiculous as it sounds, maybe your content did manage to offend some people. Maybe they didn't like how you riled the irish guy even though he overcomes their remarks with wit. Try to be as introspective as possible and hopefully this won't happen again.

2011-03-23 19:19:00 Author: Thegide Posts: 1465

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One of my levels got moderated because either Michael Jackson jumped out a coffin or a quote saying his skin will be made into lego for poor children... Erm...?

2011-03-23 19:29:00 Author: Unknown User

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One of my levels got moderated because either Michael Jackson jumped out a coffin or a quote saying his skin will be made into lego for poor children... Erm...? Pity...that level sounds like it was fun. Wish I could have played that

2011-03-23 19:36:00 Author: Ungreth Posts: 2130

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Pity...that level sounds like it was fun. Wish I could have played that It was a 'RIP MJ' level... Years ago though... One must TAKE ONE'S REVENGE!!! *Innocent look* (Viktor Reznov inspiration)

2011-03-23 19:39:00 Author: Unknown User

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The level was called Happy St. Patricks Day. As you could probably guess, no gore, bad language, copyright or offensive material. It was a 'movie' level, consisting of an intro (St Patrick wearing the MM endorsed costume chasing some snakes off an Irish flag.) There were two jokes, one of which contained the word 'drink' refering obliquely but not explicitly to alcohol. No more explicit than the beer bottle lids available in game. the second joke was three english guys trying to rile an Irishman by (mildly) insulting St. Patrick. Using typical Irish wit he gets the better of them. Yeah, I can see exactly why that would be moderated. Are you sure it isn't you who's the hater?

2011-03-23 19:41:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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It's almost as if Sony will moderate anything as long as it gets grief reported. For example, One of the Dinosaur Island levels in LBP1 got reported simply because it was one of the most hearted levels in LittleBigPlanet. Another example was when Mdaj, the creator of the Sci-Fi World levels, had two of his levels (Sci-Fi World 3 & Sci-Fi World EX) reported by jealous trolls. More about that can be read in this link https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=19212-mdaj-Multi-moderated&daysprune=-1 Anyway, I played (well, watched actually because it was a movie level) that St. Patricks day level and i didn't find it offensive. I think it got reported mostly because it was on the cool pages which is where the griefers are.

2011-03-23 20:14:00 Author: D-E-S_87 Posts: 148

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...The level was called Happy St. Patricks Day. As you could probably guess, no gore, bad language, copyright or offensive material. ... There were two jokes, one of which contained the word 'drink' refering obliquely but not explicitly to alcohol. No more explicit than the beer bottle lids available in game. the second joke was three english guys trying to rile an Irishman by (mildly) insulting St. Patrick. Using typical Irish wit he gets the better of them. ... Now, supposing that it was indeed percieved as 'anti-irish', how could it be any more demeaning to St. Patrick than dressing him up as a leprechaun in the way that MM did? Furthermore, if that level of poking fun is acceptable against the irish, how so not the english? ... One last thing, I have tried creating other movies since it was taken off, but it just isn't working. As soon as some effort goes in, there's a voice at the back of my mind reminding me that if I do a leve lthat starts to do well, the chances are it will be reported, deleted, and once again i will have no right of redress or defence.... If I was forced to guess, your level was most likely moderated because you made insults in direct reference to a religious figure (St. Patrick, a Catholic saint.) Also, the association between St. Patrick's day and leprechauns are the result of the secularization and commercialization of religious holidays in order to create merchandise (i.e. green beer, four leaf clovers, green top hats, "Kiss me, I'm irish" shirts, buttons, stickers, etc.) and otherwise stimulate spending. Leprechauns are not a representation of St. Patrick himself. See also: Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or anything having to do with Halloween. This does not seem like an issue of "they're out to get me" but rather just poor taste on your own part by placing questionable content in your levels (IMHO). There are plenty of ways to get a laugh without mentioning race, ethnicity, sex, or religion. In addition, because your level was so high profile it most likely bubbled to the top very quickly. I think you may have just ticked off one too many Irishmen/women.

2011-03-23 20:33:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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They really need to tell people why a level gets moderated.

2011-03-23 20:35:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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They really need to tell people why a level gets moderated. totally agreed

2011-03-23 23:17:00 Author: Unknown User

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First up, i played your level and i had a lil chuckle at it. Not offensive to me and im irish. Second up, my level God of War 3(LBP1) which when i left it was on page one doing very well so off to bed i went. Next day i go back on and...whats this? A message from MM? Have i been picked!? Gimmie a job? NO. My level had been moderated. No reason given. Nothing, Nada. Never seen it again. So i know how you feel bud. It took me about 2 months till i started to create again. R.I.P. Little God of War-Chains of Athena 3. Gone but not forgotten

2011-03-24 01:15:00 Author: RtooDee2 Posts: 175

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They really need to tell people why a level gets moderated. Syroc, I would agree with you... to a point. There are plenty of people that would simply use this as ammunition or a point of argument rather than just accept that perhaps, just perhaps, their level was moderated with a silver of reason and logic behind it. That's not to say that levels are only moderated fairly, or that some levels get away with murder (so to speak.) It's an imperfect system, by far, but I'm not sold that a provided explanation would cure the ailment here.

2011-03-24 02:42:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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Even if there was only was a small amount of offensive content, the popularity of the level exposed it to a huge amount of plays and a huge amount of people of different ethnicity. The argument that it is only jealous "haters" is out of the question. If this was so then every top level, heck even every other top level, would be moderated.

2011-03-24 03:06:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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@schmo: Yeah, sure but unless I'm told what part was offending I don't know where I should treat more carefully next time.

2011-03-24 08:02:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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They really need to tell people why a level gets moderated. Since you got a direct line with MM...can't you have a talk with them about this problem?

2011-03-24 08:26:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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I perhaps should have mentiooned that I'm Irish (I mentioned this in the level details) and also that I pointed out in the level details that no offense is intended to any party. I have also lived most of my life in the UK and have no kick against the english. No, I am not a hater, as I mentioned in the op, I have published perhaps the strongest anti- racist speech in the enlish language, ie from the merchant of venice. As stated previously, the joke wasn't demeaning to St Patrick any more than the costume itself. The only reference was the St Patrick costumed charactder chasing snakes off an Irish flag. Please explain how this could be construed as an attack on any religion? The joke isn't supporting racist attitudes, but mocking them, I do appreciate this may be too subtle for some people. I would be interested to know if gief reports are taken as a percentage of plays or as an absolute number, and if so, what that number is. ie, if the number of grief reports required to prompt immediate deletion is ten, and a level gets 16000 plays, that's a tiny percentage and almost by definition shows the grief reports as being unreasonable. Regardless of individual attacks on my position/level, the system should be more transparent, ie if copyright infringement is an issue, does it still count if the stickers or costumes infringing said copyright are bought from MM on PSN store? I'd like to know that before purchasing any more items for use in levels to then have them deleyted.

2011-03-24 10:40:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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While I sympathize with you on this issue (which seems to be people reading/hearing/seeing what they want, and some people want to be offended); remember that 16,000 people were exposed to your level be for it was moderated. 16,000! That's a lot of laughs and smiles you brought to people; more than most people will ever give. Instead of thinking the haters won easily - think how weak you've shown them to be!

2011-03-24 15:18:00 Author: Kanada Ten Posts: 87

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Also Afraid has been moderate the, scary movie, due to the reason of it being scary i think MM needs to get there stuff together...It said it was scary in the Description! argh >

2011-03-24 20:51:00 Author: WCF7__ Posts: 63

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I perhaps should have mentiooned that I'm Irish (I mentioned this in the level details) and also that I pointed out in the level details that no offense is intended to any party. I have also lived most of my life in the UK and have no kick against the english. No, I am not a hater, as I mentioned in the op, I have published perhaps the strongest anti- racist speech in the enlish language, ie from the merchant of venice. As stated previously, the joke wasn't demeaning to St Patrick any more than the costume itself. The only reference was the St Patrick costumed charactder chasing snakes off an Irish flag. Please explain how this could be construed as an attack on any religion? The joke isn't supporting racist attitudes, but mocking them, I do appreciate this may be too subtle for some people. Ok, so you were mocking Irish nationalists on St Paddys day? Right. That's not really any better, is it? No matter how you try to cut it you can't escape from the symbolism of snakes/dragons being moved from an Irish flag. You knew what you were doing.

2011-03-25 04:43:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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Also Afraid has been moderate the, scary movie, due to the reason of it being scary i think MM needs to get there stuff together...It said it was scary in the Description! argh > Hey now, I am sick of telling people this! This huge upheaval over this one level being moderated has been blown completely out of proportion. Earlier today I wrote a 2 part wall of text to the author of the #1 review on that level (currently #1 on cool pages) on how the moderation system works, who "runs it" if you will, and why it is there, because obviously he, along with a huge mass of the community, simple doesn't understand and has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the moderation of levels in LBP.

2011-03-25 04:48:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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Also Afraid has been moderate the, scary movie, due to the reason of it being scary i think MM needs to get there stuff together...It said it was scary in the Description! argh > Hm im a little bit worried about this since im in the process of creating a horror movie myself. Does anyone know the actual reason why it was modded? I heard from someone that it was due to the face picture used. If it's just the theme which is the problem then... oh dear.

2011-03-25 10:27:00 Author: ladylyn1 Posts: 836

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That's a shame... it was quite well done. I have an awesome sense of humor and certainly know when a line is being crossed... your movie with it's innocent little jokes didn't even come close. Are you sure it isn't you who's the hater? That's a little thick isn't it? I saw the level... it was in good taste and was light hearted. As the OP has already mentioned... he clearly stated that it was all in good fun and I certainly took him at his word for it when he clearly stated that in his level. Maybe it's just ignorant angry little people who are to blame for not having a sense of humor. Sometimes people just need to get over themselves and lighten up. The first step in appreciating laughter is being able to laugh at yourself. Hey now, I am sick of telling people this! This huge upheaval over this one level being moderated has been blown completely out of proportion. Earlier today I wrote a 2 part wall of text to the author of the #1 review on that level (currently #1 on cool pages) on how the moderation system works, who "runs it" if you will, and why it is there, because obviously he, along with a huge mass of the community, simple doesn't understand and has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the moderation of levels in LBP. Well then, care to enlighten us? No one I know in the community seems to have access to this info. No offense intended, but unless you work for Mm or SONY... how exactly do you know how the system works, who runs it, or the answers to any of the other questions people have who's levels have been modded? I've seen tons of threads about levels being modded... and not one single answer from anyone official... just a bunch of conjecture from community members taking shots in the dark. Hm im a little bit worried about this since im in the process of creating a horror movie myself. Does anyone know the actual reason why it was modded? I heard from someone that it was due to the face picture used. If it's just the theme which is the problem then... oh dear. Might want to ask the above poster as to why... he seems to know. My guess is it's possible that somoene complained that their 8 year old got a "healthy scare" (we all know it's healthy to be scared right) from it and mentioned that the face is copyright material to strengthen their quest for censorship. To be honest, the level creeped me out at first... and I'm an old geezer. For me though, it WAS the face. That was one of the images burned into the back of my mind forever when I saw the exorcist as a kid. Not sure if you knew that that's where the face is from or not... but it's flashed on screen for about 2 frames periodically throughout the movie.

2011-03-25 10:57:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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Ok, so you were mocking Irish nationalists on St Paddys day? Right. That's not really any better, is it? No matter how you try to cut it you can't escape from the symbolism of snakes/dragons being moved from an Irish flag. You knew what you were doing. wow that's a massive leap of logic you just made, all the nmore impressive by virtue of the fact that it is completely wrong. First of all, Irish nationalism is a POLITICAL issue not a religious one and has absolutely no links to a patron saint. Secondly, how does an image symbolising St Patrick ridding the island of snakes insult anyone? If I showed him failing to, yes, if I tried to insinuate it didn't actually happen, again, yes. I think the poster who stated that some people will find insuts anywhere hit the nail on the head. It all seems akin to those who wanted the words 'manhole' or 'blackboard' changed because of 'insults to women or blacks', a good cause (equality/anti-racism) gets taken over by people with politically overloaded agendas and is only weakened by it. As to the poster who likened the portrayal of St Patrick as a leprechaun to commercialisation of Christian holidays like easter (easter bunny & easter eggs, xmas & santa claus etc) you do realise it was the other way around? The early Christianns hijacked existing holidays so as not to conflict with existing pagan holidays, you've put the cart before the horse my friend. I'll (again) analogise this to my level The Merchant of Venice. Shylock makes an impassioned speech proclaiming that although he is a Jew, he is the same as every other person, with the same feelings etc etc. Some person on LBP just sees the word 'Jew' and immediately assumes it's a racist speech. That is pure ignorance, and no doubt that person submitted a grief report. And no doubt the same people attacking the St Patrick level will join in attacking that, with exactly the same lack of insight. I am Irish!! I am not self hating, I am extremely proud of my birthplace, my heritage, and anm equaly proud of the fact that MOST Irish people have a fantastic sense of humour that includes the ability to laugh at oneself. The joke attacks steryotyipcal thinking, NOT any race. Again to, all of this is moot, the system is flawed. t is a fundemental precept of civilisation that any accused shall have a right to present their case. Thisdoes not hold true here. We STILL have no answer as to how the grief system works, is it a percentage? If say even 10 % of those who saw it complained, I would at least ccept hat my well intentioned jokes failed, it seems tho from reading replies here that the prosecutors would even be unwiling to accept the intentions behind it. IF the grief system is based purely on a number of complaints, itis bvious that a disproportionate amount of griefers will 'win' over those who enjoyed a level/movie. I ask those who have laboured to create something of worth in lbp to look sometime at those who mark their level down, if their experience is anything like mine they will find that virtually everyone who marks down has either no levels published, or has absolute dross published. (note i refer to most not all) These are the same people who will submit grief reports. Most people will be like myself, and evenif we don't particularly like a level will still give it positive feedback to reward the effort that went into a level. Pick your favorite level, from either the top levels or a hidden gem, if it gets enough plays, it will get a percentage of people who rate it down, not because they think it's bad, but for reasons known only to themselves. I dn't expect to win over those who are so entrenched in their oinions, but at least i got some stuff off my chest Thanks to those of you who did see my point of view in this MM

2011-03-25 11:45:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Polical correctness.... ruining society one whine at a time.

2011-03-25 12:25:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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Polical correctness.... ruining society one whine at a time. GENIUS! Pure genius

2011-03-25 13:02:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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We STILL have no answer as to how the grief system works, is it a percentage? LittleBigPlanet Moderation - A Guide (http://forums.littlebigworkshop.com/t5/General-Discussion/LittleBigPlanet-Moderation-A-Guide/m-p/222701) When a "Good Grief" report is filed through the game the level in question, its comments and associated screenshots are placed into a queue to be checked over by the moderation teams at SCE. These teams are located around the world and the moderation queue is checked around the clock to ensure that levels which should be removed from visibility are dealt with as quickly as possible. It is a common misconception that issuing a Good Grief report automatically blocks a level from being viewed, and this is not the case. The only time a level becomes unavailable is when it has been blocked by a moderator. One. One Good Grief starts the system in motion.

2011-03-25 20:10:00 Author: Kanada Ten Posts: 87

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Well then, care to enlighten us? No one I know in the community seems to have access to this info. No offense intended, but unless you work for Mm or SONY... how exactly do you know how the system works, who runs it, or the answers to any of the other questions people have who's levels have been modded? I've seen tons of threads about levels being modded... and not one single answer from anyone official... just a bunch of conjecture from community members taking shots in the dark. Yes yes.. shots in the dark, Its not like I read a guide to the moderation system that has been available to the community since 08. Oh if only something like that existed! http://forums.littlebigworkshop.com/t5/General-Discussion/LittleBigPlanet-Moderation-A-Guide/m-p/222701 ;as the game has to be suitable for users aged 7 and above there are limits on how scarey or violent the level can be, and it may be that some acts of moderation have occurred out of levels straying over this line."

2011-03-25 21:23:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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Are they going to tell us where this imaginary "Line" in offense is then? I would genuinely like to know. When does "heightened tensions" become "too scary"? When does "good natured ribbing" become "insulting abuse"? When does "cartoon violence" become "offensive gore"? Where is the line?! I think if the people who were moderating the levels just took a minute to compile a message to be sent to the user explaining exactly why it had been moderated (instead of leaving people to guess at exactly what in their level had "crossed the line") the whole process would be much more open.

2011-03-29 15:43:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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I think if the people who were moderating the levels just took a minute to compile a message to be sent to the user explaining exactly why it had been moderated (instead of leaving people to guess at exactly what in their level had "crossed the line") the whole process would be much more open. Let me preface this by say that I don't agree with the Grief system, but it's what we have to work with at the moment. Remember that the moderators have very little incentive to not censor - they're paid to protect Sony from lawsuits: full stop. I've been thinking, and I think there might be a reason they don't tell people why they censor such-and-such level. It would create precedence. If they told a creator why something was censored, that creator would say, "Well, there's a whole bunch of levels that do that, too. Why don't they get censored?" And you know what? Sony would have to go censor those levels or they would open themselves to litigation. It would immediately result in more censorship, and a gradual tightening of rules over time, as certain levels get Griefed by the over-protective system and then the fallout censorship of levels that are close to the new line. I'm not defending the system, but I think not spelling out the reason might actually results in less censorship.

2011-03-29 16:05:00 Author: Kanada Ten Posts: 87

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Does Media Molecule post any specific guidelines on what should cause a level to be moderated? I have been working on a FPS level since LBP2 came out that features alien invaders that you destroy quite graphically using a variety of weapons. At this point some of the effects look like blood (while actually just jelly tipped rounds) and the level would probably get a E10+ for mild animated violence if it were an actual game. If there is a good chance this level will be moderated I would like to know now so I can change things or not release it at all. Is copyright infringement the main reason for moderation? I don't really see a problem with people making games like Zelda or Mario since no money is exchanged and the games are really a homage to the the original and not a copy meant to take away from the original games. Anyway I vote to moderate the LBP2 intro video since I find the big piece of pepper on the little astronaut girls teeth to be offensive especially in HD! lol..

2011-03-29 18:58:00 Author: Death_with_an_H Posts: 72

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Sony issues LittleBigPlanet moderation guidelines (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/13/sony-issues-littlebigplanet-moderation-guidelines/) Ensure that the content you share with other users is suitable for all ages - everybody has access to your level if you publish it Please respect other people's intellectual property rights. For example, don't use images, brands or logos that you're not entitled to use. If you come across any content that you feel the need to report, then please do it responsibly. Hoax reports will be considered inappropriate behavior. Shoot for E7+

2011-03-29 19:07:00 Author: Kanada Ten Posts: 87

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Sony issues LittleBigPlanet moderation guidelines (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/11/13/sony-issues-littlebigplanet-moderation-guidelines/) Shoot for E7+ But PG from my childhood was less heavily censored than PG from today - they are far less tolerant of things which "might cause offense" ; For instance - one of my favourite cartoons when I was a child was the fantastic Plague Dogs (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084509/) ; It's quite a harrowing cartoon - but it affected me deeply. But if it were made today, they would heavily censor most of it - because they like to wrap kids in cotton wool nowadays. But the actual laws and guidelines regarding PG have not changed - they are just interpreting them differently - and that's what this comes down to - personal interpretation. Which I think is the main reason why they don't give any explination when moderating a level - because it is based on the person who is moderating your levels personal interpretation of the rules and guidelines.. and people make mistakes... which is why you get the "Why was my level modded when that other level is worse?". How are you supposed to know what exactly was 'offensive' in your level , so that you can modify it and republish, if they don't tell you?

2011-03-30 07:47:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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To the people who have had their levels deleted, does it just get removed from your Earth or does it delete the My Moon copy too?

2011-03-30 08:03:00 Author: Shippage Posts: 11

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I think they should give you an opportunity to appeal to your moderation....even if they don't explain WHY they moderated it...you should still be able to type a well thought out explanation of WHY your level should not be moderated and should return to the levels and if it's accepted among the moderators then they return it back to it's original state (plays, hearts, rates included) AND if it's acceptable have a mini lock icon displaying that this level was moderated and brought back with moderation protection as the reasoning behind it was validated and has no more reason for being moderated....although tbh that won't happen since they'd just ignore it...im just thinking of a reason to add another cool badge to the level badge

2011-03-30 23:13:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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wow that's a massive leap of logic you just made, all the nmore impressive by virtue of the fact that it is completely wrong. Ok, so who exactly were you mocking? Why don't you tell us in your own words exactly what you meant. First of all, Irish nationalism is a POLITICAL issue not a religious one and has absolutely no links to a patron saint. Secondly, how does an image symbolising St Patrick ridding the island of snakes insult anyone? If I showed him failing to, yes, if I tried to insinuate it didn't actually happen, again, yes. Duh, of course it's potentially offensive to certain religious denominations and as you know that goes hand in hand with politics. That's a little thick isn't it? I saw the level... it was in good taste and was light hearted. As the OP has already mentioned... he clearly stated that it was all in good fun and I certainly took him at his word for it when he clearly stated that in his level. Maybe it's just ignorant angry little people who are to blame for not having a sense of humor. Sometimes people just need to get over themselves and lighten up. The first step in appreciating laughter is being able to laugh at yourself. I don't think you realise that this isn't like other good natured colonial ribbings. People are still dying, bombs are still being planted, people are still massively segregated. Are you honestly this insensitive maybe we should start making pro-Israel/pro-Palestine or pro-India/pro-Pakistan or pro-China/pro-Tibet levels too showing snakes being chased from the flag of the glorious homeland respectively or you might even compare the Irish famine to the holocaust. Can we keep this kind of drama off LBP please.

2011-03-31 00:41:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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I don't think you realise that this isn't like other good natured colonial ribbings. People are still dying, bombs are still being planted, people are still massively segregated. Are you honestly this insensitive maybe we should start making pro-Israel/pro-Palestine or pro-India/pro-Pakistan or pro-China/pro-Tibet levels too showing snakes being chased from the flag of the glorious homeland respectively or you might even compare the Irish famine to the holocaust. Can we keep this kind of drama off LBP please. dude...seriously?...this is a game made for children/family audience...relax...not that serious...and I doubt many people are thinking about it in your way...hell id bet nobody even thought about it the way you are...you're taking what seems to be a harmless joke way too far you're making mountains out of molehills

2011-03-31 01:18:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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Someone needs to do something fast. Too many levels are being randomly moderated. We need to form some sort of way of stopping these attacks. Any ideas?

2011-03-31 16:46:00 Author: sackruler905 Posts: 103

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wow. You leap from A to B faster than superman (apologies to any politically sensitive superhero fans) I had sooo many arguments against what yoiu said, but i kinda guess it would be a waste of my time and yours. Thanks to all those who have contributed reasonable arguments both for and against my point of view

2011-04-01 12:12:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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