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Im not sure if this goes here but can anyone make a list of artistic creators?2011-03-11 00:31:00

Author:
Unknown User

Go play some levels in the showcase and the community spotlight.
There's a ton of different, artistic creators. You can't just narrow down a few.		2011-03-11 00:41:00

Author:
Sack-Jake
Posts: 1153

Can't think of many off the top of my head.

I'll start the list off though. Not sure exactly what you mean by artistic, but I think I get it...

jump_button (http://lbp.me/u/jump_button)		2011-03-11 01:00:00

Author:
KlawwTheClown
Posts: 1106

It depends what you mean by artistic, really. And its very hard to narrow down a list to just a few, of any type of creators.2011-03-11 02:32:00

Author:
ATMLVE
Posts: 1177

Yea define artistic. You mean art detailed levels like Jump_button, Luos or Bobtox, or preventative art art levels (0 gameplay just art show off) like IcyMaidem or Bremnen?2011-03-11 03:40:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991

im making art lvls, im not sure if this is what you mean tho....
http://i3.lbp.me/img/ft/ec38fcf914280b543474b13458f21ef2fa074fbc.jpg		2011-03-11 04:46:00

Author:
The_Lil_JoKeR
Posts: 745

I've been doing sticker art. Check this out.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/nickwaldenlives/8469130843860688a9700a9270a930fa91cb4beb.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/nickwaldenlives/17635609e3de6dde3644a07da78de6d6b6de8f79.jpg

That's just for starters. If you wanna see more, go here.
http://lbp.me/v/ymzj19		2011-03-11 05:03:00

Author:
Unknown User

RiCKy-BoBBy91 (http://lbp.me/u/RiCKy-BoBBy91)
Teebonesy (http://lbp.me/u/Teebonesy)
thecooper8 (http://lbp.me/u/thecooper8)
Luckett_X (http://lbp.me/u/Luckett_X)
a-tziluth (http://lbp.me/u/a-tziluth)
gyuugo (http://lbp.me/u/gyuugo)

:b enjoy		2011-03-11 07:47:00

Author:
jump_button
Posts: 1014

Check out Accumulation None. He's a professional gallery artist and it really shows in his levels, which are unique, enigmatic and deeply immersive visual experiences.

Also check out absolutely anything made by dajdaj03, who can create stuff so visually stunning that you'll probably just cry with envy and self-doubt and then give up creating for the rest of your life.		2011-03-11 09:28:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

Don't forget about that guy ^

Ungreth
AccumulationNone
Squirlin
Morgana25
TheCountessZ

Probably my top 5 art people i've ever seen on lbp.

Ungreth knows his stickers. He knows how to use those stickers to create his own stickers that he uses for his environments in such a way that makes you question what its made out of because its just so darn good.

AccumulationNone/Squirlin do things with stickers I could only dream of. These two pioneered sticker prints on LBP by using stickers to make beautiful portraits. Probably the 2 best sticker guys in all of LBP, though they might be too modest to admit it.

Morgana25, do I even need to explain? She is the queen of lights and has a vast knowledge of stickers/decorations/scenery that she uses to make insanely beautiful AAA levels.

TheCountessZ, even though, I don't think, she published a single one of her sets, she knows what it takes to make beautiful scenery and she knows how to make it FIT with the surrounding areas to make it seemless. You can see some of her work in the Creator Spotlights.

I haven't seen much of what Dajdaj made but what I saw looked very good.
Also check out IceMaiden, Jump_button, Luos_83, TheZimInvader, and NinjaFerret22 .
(IceMaiden does highly visual stuff, Jump_button does artistic levels, Luos has high visuals in his Beh'ta stuff, Zim/ninja make detailed statues)

Imma stop now before I end up in a massive art rant. 		2011-03-11 10:22:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

http://lbp.me/u/AntonioLadrillo
http://lbp.me/u/Yomi-Yomi		2011-03-11 10:55:00

Author:
tameturtle
Posts: 150

Don't forget about that guy ^

Let's not forget you too Brem...

Mm picked for your painstakingly detailed recreation of the Mona Lisa...and a great grafiti artist too. 		2011-03-11 15:56:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

jwwphotos is very creative. In my opinion. I would say me but i dont like to be big headed.2011-03-11 17:44:00

Author:
craigmond
Posts: 2426

Im not sure if this goes here but can anyone make a list of artistic creators?

No actually, it shouldn't go here... it should have stayed in your original thread thatyou created about this very same topic on the same day you created this one that is called "barely any artistic levels?" where you asked us the exact same question. I guess you might be new to forums and may not know this, but creating multiple threads for the exact same topic is frowned upon by the mods and the community. Now we have the same discussion going on in two places, even with the same people involved. Perhaps you should ask a Mod to merge these two threads, considering you also asked for someone to make you a list of art levels in your original thread. Sorry if this sounds a bit short, but having two threads on this topic where we've asked you to define what you mean by "Artistic" is getting confusing and you have not yet returned to either thread to answer us.

Seeing as I'm here now, I guess this is the place the conversation is continuing. With referenece to what is an Art Level or creator, so far I'd say MeanMrMustard's examples are the only thing I would consider to be included in the category of "Artistic or Art Levels". Bremenans 3D Mona Lisa was definitely also an art level, but to be honest... I don't consider any of these other creators levels to be "artistic levels" as far as I can recall. Don't get me wrong, I know they are artistic and creative people and their wonderful levels reflect that... but it doesn't seem to me that that is what the OP has been looking for. It's possible that they have each put out an Art level and I'd have to see specific examples, but the reasons being given here for certain creators being "art creators" seems really off in my opinion. Seems to me like we are now just talking aout artistic people in general... unlike what the original thread seemed to be implying a bit more than this, which is why I'm a bit confused now as to what the OP is really asking for help on. Using stickers and deco's well, or having great lighting techniques does not constitute being an "artistic creator" in my mind (in the sense that I think is being asked about in this thread). It's definitely creative and artistic... but not in the sense of being artistic levels when compared to what almost every aspiring creator is striving for... a level that looks good and plays well. I mean absolutely no offense to anyone already mentioned here, but I was under the impression from the original thread and this one, that the OP is asking for art oriented levels made by creators. By some of the defintions I'm seeing being used to include creators in this category.. there is a HUGE list of people we'd have to start throwing in... myself included, and although I am an artist... I've never created a single art level (published or not).

So....
Dear 09_nitro_x: Please define your definition of artistic level for us all, so we can better help you out and have an interesting and meaningful discussion here. I'd really love to see some more artistic levels myself... but I don't need to go play levels by well known creators that are simply platformers that are put together by creative or artistic levels... I've seen tons of those. 		2011-03-11 18:38:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737

from my Tutorial thread

Alexgangsta4: Art World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER5h07w1_Hs&hd=1)		2011-03-11 19:31:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910

If you mean like art gallery? like making art then yeah theres not much but artistic theres a whole bunch of people, Artistic could be a good use of lighting or decoration etc. Unless you mean abstract stuff or idk.

Im suprised no one has mentioned ninjaferret, troy boy, vodeedo, lone fenix, fender, ladona, evil panda, OCK, purpleaddiction, theres a new guy around called tomato something, he made a really cool tic tac toe level. And many many more, not to mention the thousands of japanese creators out there.

I usually make artistic stuff combined with platformers or anything. but Blah just ignore me like everyone else does.....
this thread it makes me feel like a punch in the nose		2011-03-11 19:36:00

Author:
Bloo_boy
Posts: 1019

Yeah I mean like artistic creator with drawing, and level like with the lights etc all tjhat stuff goes in art right?
thank you for recomndations

And lol bloo-boy your post, sorry maybe I sound harsh but your just not that good...sorry i just be honest.		2011-03-11 23:49:00

Author:
Unknown User

I've been doing sticker art. Check this out.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/nickwaldenlives/8469130843860688a9700a9270a930fa91cb4beb.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/nickwaldenlives/17635609e3de6dde3644a07da78de6d6b6de8f79.jpg

That's just for starters. If you wanna see more, go here.
http://lbp.me/v/ymzj19


A friend showed me your level the other day. I must say, very impressive!		2011-03-13 09:40:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477

Does this have to be little big planet art? Or just art in general?
Oh And:
Monkeyboys
Dj-Ak47		2011-03-13 13:10:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457

this thread it makes me feel like a punch in the nose

Don't feel bad. I don't get mentions in this category either, even though this series used to be what I was known for back in the day:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbliONe1QDY

Torn By Darkness by Stampy83 is one of the few levels I would really call artistic, but that's because the visuals and play are built to convey an emotion and message. That's different to me than aesthetic style and prettiness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNX1woH8qyo

I think everybody's stuff is artistic, just some have a knack for cut outs, color and lighting.		2011-03-13 13:23:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well i guess you're just asking about levels that are led by visual art or artistic ideas rather than platforming, races, bombs etc. Essentially the more 'out there' and creative levels, yes there's loads of very artistic people on here, this game is a really great magnet and meeting place for creative people, but levels that follow a truly unique vision really stand out to me. I know I've played loads in the past now but can't recall all the exact names of the levels, but for me two creators who exemplify this -

Ungreth
TeeBonesy

In terms of creators who have made artworks to just look at, check out Squirlins awesome sticker portraits in my LBP Museum of contemporary art level (forgive the elevator and the missing 2nd floor... Cut backs!)
MeanMrmustard is working on a great gallery level with some of the most creative folks out there including Bremnen and his own amazing creations above, watch that space!

And finally there are creators whose levels are visually just stunning and ooze style -

Elvenbane
Squirlin
Ladylyn1
croissantbuncake
jwwphotos
DajDaj03
Morgana25
TheCountessZ		2011-03-17 15:29:00

Author:
AccumulationNone
Posts: 58

I've been doing sticker art. Check this out.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/nickwaldenlives/8469130843860688a9700a9270a930fa91cb4beb.jpg



lol,
thats almost what I went for when making this:
http://i2.lbp.me/img/ft/b3214749f6a35028d45805cf803557e3decac2eb.jpg

( https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=52611-The-Crying-Blossom-Tree)		2011-03-17 20:12:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

You can do anything you belive in (in my opioion.(2011-03-18 06:54:00

Author:
tuyyui
Posts: 175

Well the other posters may be trying to help you with options, but the issue is they may not know what art is. It is not their fault, most of them think that Dadaism is a thing kids go through when they are learning to talk. But if you want a good art level versus a good "art" level (art is in parentheses because I was saying it sarcastically..kind of like I am "sure" you will "check out" the levels everyone here has listed) then you may want to check out mine, not because they are "art", but because I have mad skills...and may be suffering from trollzethasis, a desease that come from a lack of F4F replies.

P.S. On a serious note Ocampusmoon was really good, but I have not seen a LBP2 level from him yet. Lightmare and saber also made some very well done levels...oh and that weird dune like level witht eh mine field, motorbike, and mech towards then end....well I could list tons of them...but as I said you will be too busy "playing" all those already listed by everyone else. 		2011-03-18 07:18:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822

...most of them think that Dadaism is a thing kids go through when they are learning to talk.

I'm not sure I would use Dadaism as a basis for criticizing people for their ignorance to art. I looked up Dadaism and found this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg/220px-Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg

That's a photograph of a urinal--the thing that guys urinate into. That's supposed to be art. It's on the wikipedia page for Dadaism. And that pretty much sums up what I think of Dadaism.

Now this (http://thewanderingslacker.deviantart.com/gallery/) is art :

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2010/215/b/d/A_Great_Wonder_in_Heaven_by_TheWanderingSlacker.pn g (http://thewanderingslacker.deviantart.com/art/A-Great-Wonder-in-Heaven-161358740)		2011-03-18 09:38:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188

Well the other posters may be trying to help you with options, but the issue is they may not know what art is. It is not their fault, most of them think that Dadaism is a thing kids go through when they are learning to talk.

Funny you should make a comment like that right after posts by AccumulationNone and Luos, who are both professional artists...		2011-03-18 10:23:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

That's a photograph of a urinal--the thing that guys urinate into. That's supposed to be art. It's on the wikipedia page for Dadaism. And that pretty much sums up what I think of Dadaism.

If you can make something like an urinoir as gorgeous as this in 1917, then you are a great artist imho

misty		2011-03-18 11:17:00

Author:
Mother-Misty
Posts: 574

Funny you should make a comment like that right after posts by AccumulationNone and Luos, who are both professional artists...

I would not say funny as much as perfect timing. As for the use of "professional", then only thing that prevents me from being one is the meaning of the definition...and seeing as I have already embraced Dadaism I can just claim I am using an "artistic" interpretation of the definition...trust me there is irony in there somewhere.		2011-03-18 17:12:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822

A few artist come to mind:
Morgana
Jaeyden
Willtang
xkappax
Ninjamcwiz
StevebigGunz
MrsSpookybuz
Johnee
Javihagus
Monkeyboys
Mothermisty
And a very good artist that is about to make a comeback, the second highest hearted author xNOBODYx

Sorry if I got your name wrong I sux at names		2011-03-18 17:45:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

This reminds me of an oil painting class I took on a whim as a free elective in college. The instructor (professor?) was showing photos of oil paintings and the "art majors" were spouting nonsense about use of color, etc. On impulse I blurted out, "looks like a monkey painted them." As it turned out, a monkey had in fact painted them...this greatly annoyed the instructor; I don't know what the purpose of that lecture was because it was promptly cancelled.

There's a lot of crud that tries to get passed off as art and people seem un-willing to criticize it and risk being labeled as ignorant; I think some "artists" try to capitalize on this...others are probably just loons. If it looks like a pile of crap I threw out of my garage...it's not art and I don't care how much empty space it activates or how it tries to balance solid and void...a pile of crap is just a pile of crap. Who am I to judge what is art...I'm the person that can tell when it's painted by a chimp or a human! 		2011-03-18 18:11:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214

Well the other posters may be trying to help you with options, but the issue is they may not know what art is. It is not their fault, most of them think that Dadaism is a thing kids go through when they are learning to talk. But if you want a good art level versus a good "art" level (art is in parentheses because I was saying it sarcastically..kind of like I am "sure" you will "check out" the levels everyone here has listed) then you may want to check out mine, not because they are "art", but because I have mad skills...and may be suffering from trollzethasis, a desease that come from a lack of F4F replies.

P.S. On a serious note Ocampusmoon was really good, but I have not seen a LBP2 level from him yet. Lightmare and saber also made some very well done levels...oh and that weird dune like level witht eh mine field, motorbike, and mech towards then end....well I could list tons of them...but as I said you will be too busy "playing" all those already listed by everyone else.


I would not say funny as much as perfect timing. As for the use of "professional", then only thing that prevents me from being one is the meaning of the definition...and seeing as I have already embraced Dadaism I can just claim I am using an "artistic" interpretation of the definition...trust me there is irony in there somewhere.

I hope the part you were joking about was the part where you said you considered Dada to be art.		2011-03-18 18:26:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

Lol, Dada is very troubling to many, and it does look quite like unart...but that was the point, and it was a bit of anti-war, so it was born out of social upheaval. But it was from Dadaism that some of may favorite artist rose...
plus it is art designed to be unart...

http://www.dadart.com/dada-media/galaxie-dada-p.jpg


p.s. love the avatar with the brush...very fitting for the post.		2011-03-18 18:36:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822

This reminds me of an oil painting class I took on a whim as a free elective in college. The instructor (professor?) was showing photos of oil paintings and the "art majors" were spouting nonsense about use of color, etc. On impulse I blurted out, "looks like a monkey painted them." As it turned out, a monkey had in fact painted them...this greatly annoyed the instructor; I don't know what the purpose of that lecture was because it was promptly cancelled.

There's a lot of crud that tries to get passed off as art and people seem un-willing to criticize it and risk being labeled as ignorant; I think some "artists" try to capitalize on this...others are probably just loons. If it looks like a pile of crap I threw out of my garage...it's not art and I don't care how much empty space it activates or how it tries to balance solid and void...a pile of crap is just a pile of crap. Who am I to judge what is art...I'm the person that can tell when it's painted by a chimp or a human!

Maybe it's your last post that reminds you of when you blurted out while you were in a class that you didn't give a crap about because your still blurting out, in a thread you seem not to give a crap about. Btw I don't remember every meeting an artist that liked there art criticized. Artist put alot of themselves in there work. Sometimes artist dig down deep into there souls to express how they feeling at the time. It's can be very personal, so just remember that when you say something mean about someones art the artist probably take it very personally. My point is beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and if you don't like something doesn't make it crap, others may love it.		2011-03-18 18:48:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

Centurion,

Wow, way to over-react. So nothing is out of bounds...everything is art? There's a strip of plaster removed from a wall at the Philly art museum (unless someone has accidentally spackled over it)...I thought they were doing construction. That's not art...it's non-structural damage to a building.

People want to support this as being some form of valuable artistic expression?!? It does a disservice to those that do put something of themselves into what they create. Also, if it's too personal to be criticized perhaps it shouldn't have been put out there for the public...it's baloney to suggest that art is above criticism.		2011-03-18 19:41:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214

Centurion,

Wow, way to over-react. So nothing is out of bounds...everything is art? There's a strip of plaster removed from a wall at the Philly art museum (unless someone has accidentally spackled over it)...I thought they were doing construction. That's not art...it's non-structural damage to a building.

People want to support this as being some form of valuable artistic expression?!? It does a disservice to those that do put something of themselves into what they create. Also, if it's too personal to be criticized perhaps it shouldn't have been put out there for the public...it's baloney to suggest that art is above criticism.

My point is don't be so quick to call someones art crap just for the sake of putting you 2 cents in.		2011-03-18 19:57:00

Author:
CENTURION24
Posts: 266

My point is don't be so quick to call someones art crap just for the sake of putting you 2 cents in.

Are we talking about the monkeys? I'm pretty sure they'll be ok...I don't see any criticism of a specific artist or movement in what I first posted.		2011-03-18 20:19:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214

I would not say funny as much as perfect timing. As for the use of "professional", then only thing that prevents me from being one is the meaning of the definition...and seeing as I have already embraced Dadaism I can just claim I am using an "artistic" interpretation of the definition...trust me there is irony in there somewhere.

Wow, you embraced Dadaism? No way! I mean, despite having a diploma in art and art history, I have no idea what Dada means, but it sounds cool so I guess that makes you my new hero! Next time my ignorant little mind fizzles out and I need some clarification on the "real" definition of art, I will be sure to consult the omniscient oracle known as Celsus, since you are clearly the only true artist around here.

Actually, while you're here, could I possibly trouble you to ask what Futurism is? Is it like...erm...art that hasn't been made yet, but will be one day? And Bauhaus...weren't they that 80's goth band who sung Bela Lugosi's Dead? Oh, and that thingy wotsit known as Neue Sachlichkeit....something to do with German people licking their sacks, right? 		2011-03-18 20:34:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

Lol, it is funny you used the term "Oracle" and "Celsus" in a sentence. It is the name of a Greek philosopher around 150 CE (not the other celsus that was know for his medical work a century prior). He wrote a book called "The True Word"...which is pretty much omniscient-oracleesc as one can get.
Oh a side note, I did not choose the name because of that, I just loved his history. He wrote a book that talked smack about the early church, Origen (a big time member of the church) wrote a book about how bad Celsus was, then Origen was prosecuted and killed by his own church, the church destroyed all of the non-church materials, but kept Origen's...and in Origen's material Origen had recorded Celsus's work...thus Origen had managed to save Celsus's work. The ultimate act of historical dramatic irony.


Sorry that is off point. Futurism would be Futurama in many ways, the vision of the future city and ideas is the heart of it right? Bahaus I always thought was a type of coffee...but I should know something about it because it is like Deco...and I loveTamara, but that is because she was hot. As for Neue Sachlichkeit, I think it is from German for New (neue) Sachlichkeit is german from "the pleasure a sackboy recieves from driving a VW"...so must be something they are planning on doing to name a LBP2 level to copy the Prius levels.

Ok maybe that was not too funny, but I really have never heard of the last. I avoided art history like the pleague. But for the monkeys painting, I have read a book on cat's painting, and the value of the art...still not sure if any of it was true...but since art is a form of communication, then any animal that communicates could make art. Of course if they are being trained to do it then that would be less so...then agian many artists goto school for it, so that would be about the same as training a chimp to.

So I am on the fence on that one.

I love realism in art, but many hate it, I am not going to say Picaso is not art because it bugs me, I will just say I am not a fan. Art in many ways is a form of currency to some, people pay money and invest it in something that is unique for the later trade value...just like gold or salt...nothign wrong with that...I just perfer my cash kept in national currencies...but I am not going to berate someone for using art instead...then again elitism in art can be off-putting for sure, but I am pretty positive no one here could be an art elitist (not saying impossible), just that most strawman cliche' art snobs hate video games...but I am sure that is changing with the times.		2011-03-18 21:22:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822

Well I find this conversation very entertaining but it's getting off topic. I apologize for my part in that: I shouldn't have gone off on Dadaism and all that. Anyway, let's try to get the thread back on topic now--that is talking about lbp creators who are perceived as being particularly artistic in their creations.

Incidentally, I think I've mentioned this before, but I can't remember where: sometimes these gorgeous artistic levels are actually difficult to play because of their artistic nature. I've played levels where the terrain is pretty but it's not conducive to Sackboy's physics-based running and jumping (you miss a jump if you try to do it just after cresting a moderately sharp ridge), and the details sometimes get in the way and make it difficult to see exactly where I need to run/jump to. Not that I'm trying to derail the thread again, but in my thinking the mark of a good or great artistic creator is not only their artistic talent, but their ability to balance it against playable level design.		2011-03-18 21:25:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188

Incidentally, I think I've mentioned this before, but I can't remember where: sometimes these gorgeous artistic levels are actually difficult to play because of their artistic nature. I've played levels where the terrain is pretty but it's not conducive to Sackboy's physics-based running and jumping (you miss a jump if you try to do it just after cresting a moderately sharp ridge), and the details sometimes get in the way and make it difficult to see exactly where I need to run/jump to.

You've been playing my levels!? 		2011-03-18 21:38:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

http://lbp.me/v/yzd0s92011-03-19 00:41:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910

well, that urinal didn't design itself. someone has to make the crapper.
on that note i nominate myself for the list.		2011-03-19 02:15:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730

Designing physical utensils for everyday life that gets mass produced is different from visual stuff like sculptures.

People get this notion that anything is art, that's a lie they use to make people who are horrible not feel bad.
That urinal is just to be used to filter waste. It was never made to be a visualistic intrigue into your imagination.
Now, it has the potential to be made into art, but simply taking a photo of something does not make you a photographer.
There's nothing interesting about that photo, it's just another urinal. If they would have taken it at an interesting angle, messed with the lighting, added something to it, THEN it could be considered artistic.

There are a lot of people on LBPC and in the LBP community that have degrees in art, well deserved I might add, so waving around a grayscale photo of a waste receptical doesn't discount there skills.

As for Dada in general, it was anti-art, yea, they tried something different, yea, they tried to push the boundaries of what art is, but if your stuff looks like crap it looks like crap.
Avante garde is dead by all means simply because just about everything has been tried before, but if you're going to push the boundaries and try to make something new you have to at least make it look good and keep peoples attention long enough to draw in appeal.
That's what the problem is with the anti-art movement, it's exactly what it means, NOT art. They weren't trying to make art, they were trying to make something ugly or boring and call it art. Subjective as it may be that's how it is.
You can put down Picassos work all you want, he knew what he was making was horrible and he is even famous for saying something along the lines of "I'll keep making this crap as long as people keep buying it." But he was still an artist and could make good work when he wanted to.

For the other painting you showed, it's a prime example, it looks like a puzzle. If it takes too long for the person to figure out what it is then it's likely to lose interest. Yes lots of art is made to make you think but they are made to make you reflect or think about life, not "Where does this fit in? Why is that over there?" There's a difference.

It irks me that you would shrug off every other art style just because you prefer one. Also that you would discredit every artist in the LBP community just because you "embraced Dada". Not even MENTIONING you saying that none of us know what art is. Which is offensive to every artist who will read that.

I think you should take a step back and reevaluate your views on art and maybe investigate a little before telling those guys you're arguing with that their art is worthless. 		2011-03-20 07:45:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

Everything that was made from someone's heart and hard work is art, everyone who has a passion for LBP creates art.2011-03-20 14:35:00

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Foofles
Posts: 2278

Everything that was made from someone's heart and hard work is art, everyone who has a passion for LBP creates art.

hmm..
I should make a real swimming pool bomb survival with REAL!!! water!! from the heart...
Not everything can be concidered art... art is also about originality.. though.. andy warhol might disagree with me on that 		2011-03-20 14:41:00

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Luos_83
Posts: 2136

hmm..
I should make a real swimming pool bomb survival with REAL!!! water!! from the heart...
Not everything can be concidered art... art is also about originality.. though.. andy warhol might disagree with me on that

If you really made a swimming pool bomb survival from the heart, I have no doubt that you could make it into art, Luos. The difference is that you're the type who's dedicated to making something with artistic and gameplay quality, so if you were to make a bomb survival, you would do a better job at it than all the other copycats out there, and, if there's any way to make a bomb survival into art, you'd manage it.		2011-03-20 23:12:00

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Sehven
Posts: 2188

Anyone mentioned Uncle_Muscles_ yet?
He's pretty darned good.		2011-03-20 23:18:00

Author:
Brian_Istenes
Posts: 151

Lol...did my post vanish? I had fun with that. Eitherway Foofles should be mentioned too.2011-03-21 05:09:00

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celsus
Posts: 822

Some history on the urinal piece - it was actually never intended as an art work, Marcel Duchamp submitted it to an art competition as a prank and a statement. if I recall the story right, Duchamp was actually on the selection panel of the competition and found the elitist, dismissive mindset of his fellow judges irritating, so, using the pseudonym R.Mutt, he signed a found object, a urinal, and submitted that. Then, on the selection committee he argued for it's artistic merits and it's right to be included.
Now, I'm sure he did feel on some level that there was some aesthetic appeal to this object, its design, the way it has been streamlined for its specific use, there is arguably a 'beauty' to this object, but I would say his main reason for it's selection was it's rather unsavory functional associations - essentially it was a pee take, a prank, aimed at popping the inflated egos and fixed opinions of his fellow judges - he was kicking against art snobbery and elitism, a worthy target I'd say.*
So it came to be a symbol of artistic rebellion - I don't think any one looks at the thing and thinks it's a genius work of beauty, it's more about what it represents in terms of what can be considered 'beautiful', which is after all highly subjective - see above!
It's ironic because many times ive heard people, above for example, refer to LBP levels as art, which most 'art scholars' would find laughable, but this inclusivity is exactly what that urinal piece was arguing for.

I've been a little reluctant to get involved in this debate as, yes it's off topic, but also, it gets pretty boring, when you have argued it every christmas with the inlaws, basically, everyman and his dog is an expert on art, regardless of their awareness of it. *Mostly these are knee jerk reactions based on Daily Mail articles about 'piles of bricks' being shown in an art gallery. *There's murders, wars, corruption, but a pile of bricks can be art? well that really ticks me off!
That said, debate is a good thing, and controversial art works or ideas are there to stimulate this debate, to keep minds open, we don't all have to agree, but creativity flows through open minds. Often throughout history, provocative films, music, art has been the gateway to more palatable and accessible but progressive things. *The avant guard is always being subsumed into the mainstream, think about how music you like would sound to someone who still believes that classical music is the only real music.

What I'm saying is, judge for yourself, openly and honestly, go to an art gallery accepting that some things you will love, some you will hate. *You don't like 'all' music, all films, do you? *

Finally, at the risk of keeping this thread rolling on it's slightly off topic but definitely more interesting path -*to me, good art is not about technique, how well you can draw or paint a certain thing, that is craftsmanship, it can be a part of art but it is not the crucial part. Good art to me is about ideas, and about challenging our preconceptions of the world, whatever form that needs to take. *Art is not there to entertain you, if you want to be entertained, go see Avatar, if you want something that will challenge your opinions, confront your prejudices, inspire your ideas, then that's art you need, whether that takes the form of painting, sculpture, film, music, books, games, whatever.

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Author:
AccumulationNone
Posts: 58

Artistic creators? Here's some I know..

Lockstitch, ATMLVE, Ruof, Bender82, Lordmagicpants, Weirdybeardy, RacingCreed, Death_Knell0106 and SPT555

Hope this Helped! 		2011-03-23 12:37:00

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