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Recently LG won an injunction against Sony that has resulted in all Sony Playstation 3 consoles blocked from reaching Europe. Will this ban spread to the USA or Canada? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8BLez5X9FE&feature=feedu Uh oh!

2011-03-01 00:47:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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What the hell!? I may live in the US, but even I think that's unfair. Why couldn't they just block out Britain???

2011-03-01 00:51:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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OH MY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU*************** Poor Europeans... they will lose the chance of LBP. If it happens here.... I'm gonna go wage war on LG! Or uhh salvage my PS3

2011-03-01 00:57:00 Author: Fang Posts: 578

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Why couldn't they just block out Britain??? Not cool.

2011-03-01 00:58:00 Author: MrFunctionality Posts: 637

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That's terrible. How could they do such a thing?

2011-03-01 01:02:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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Atleast it's only 10 days for now. Wonder if Sony will manage to do the same back to LG as part of this patent war.

2011-03-01 01:04:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Atleast it's only 10 days for now. Wonder if Sony will manage to do the same back to LG as part of this patent war. They did. Sony took them to court on December (and won I think). That's why LG's doing this, only they're going all out on Sony this time.

2011-03-01 01:05:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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well there is still a remaining stock on the shelves. They wont remove those also will they?

2011-03-01 01:07:00 Author: spok22 Posts: 206

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Corporate greed gone too far...

2011-03-01 01:07:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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Is this permanent? Illegal PS3 trading? D:

2011-03-01 01:10:00 Author: Unknown User

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Corporate greed gone too far... Again, it's not just greed, it's this patent war they're having with Sony. LG just can't take a loss; they're willing to put another company out of business just to get the upper hand in life (I doubt Sony will lose business, though).

2011-03-01 01:12:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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I feel for any Europeans that get YLOD while this is happening. Sony has been going through a lot lately. Ignorant hackers and being picked on by LG. What's next?

2011-03-01 01:12:00 Author: siberian_ninja15 Posts: 444

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I'm gonna buy 5 now and make a quick buck off this injuction selling them.

2011-03-01 01:23:00 Author: MrFunctionality Posts: 637

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2011-03-01 01:44:00 Author: Testudini Posts: 3262

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I won't support LG anymore, because I'm a dirty Sony fanbot loyalist, and Sony's enemies are my enemies. *Opens locker and takes the shotgun and the sword*

2011-03-01 07:25:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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But they're still gonna sell PS3 games right? RIGHT?!

2011-03-01 07:27:00 Author: Coconuts Posts: 384

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Man, Sony's been having a real hard time lately...

2011-03-01 07:27:00 Author: TheZimInvader Posts: 3149

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But they're still gonna sell PS3 games right? RIGHT?! Yes, why wouldn't they? It's the technology in the console not the games that has the patent problems.

2011-03-01 07:34:00 Author: MrFunctionality Posts: 637

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For anyone afraid that this might happen in the U.S: It can't. It wouldn't be allowed, because big corporations are protected from patent stuff like this. Ex: CocaCola patent was up, the courts extended it so they wouldn't lose their seat by a bunch of nockoffs. If they tried this in the U.S I wouldn't be surprised if the courts laughed at LG. The U.S doesn't like to see bid corps taken down quickly.

2011-03-01 07:42:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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It can't. It wouldn't be allowed, because big corporations are protected from patent stuff like this. If Microsoft (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142611/Court_rejects_Microsoft_appeal_bans_Word_sales) are not too big to be given this "protection", who exactly is? Also, pay attention to the mobile telecomms market - those companies are never out of court with their patent squabbles.

2011-03-01 08:52:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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rtm, the only reason they did anything about Microsoft was because they had gotten TOO big, which made it impossible for any other company to get into the market. Thats not the case with Sony.

2011-03-01 09:45:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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From wiki The Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF) group was a collection of technology firms working together to develop and support the Blu-ray Disc. The Blu-ray Disc Founders was launched on May 20, 2002. As Blu-ray support grew progressively; announcements in 2004 included Hewlett Packard and Dell, which declared backing for the standard on January 12, 2004, and TDK on March 19, 2004. It announced that Blu-ray Disc Founders will shift to Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) in October on May 18, 2004. It shifted to Blu-ray Disc Association on October 4, 2004. The companies are: Sony Corporation 20th Century Fox Dell Hewlett Packard Hitachi LG Electronics Panasonic Corporation Mitsubishi Electric Philips Pioneer Samsung Electronics Sharp TDK Thomson So I wonder the reason why Sony and LG sue each other since their associates in the development of the technology. My take is a great loud: BAH!

2011-03-01 09:57:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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The case I linked to was specifically I patent infringement, by microsoft, causing an injunction technology product to be withdrawn from the market in the US - that thing that apparently isn't possible. Nothing to do with MS's supposed monopoly status and the big hoohar that was made about that several years ago. And these injunction requests on (often dubious) technology patents are made regularly in the US courts. It's rare that they go as far as a full block on sale of a product (which is the same as elsewhere in the world), but it's a million times rarer that they get "laughed out of court". Normally, it's a standoff of counter suing or a multi-million dollar settlement that solves it, not the courts ignoring them or protecting big companies. Basically, similar things could happen in the US. It's unlikely, but it's unlikely for them to happen in Europe too... yet here we are

2011-03-01 10:07:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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I'm a dirty Sony fanbot Woah, didn't expect that you were a bot. And a dirty one? D: And I don't get a **** about what he was talking in the video, I only heard that he repeated same thing over and over. /tiredness

2011-03-01 10:16:00 Author: Alec Posts: 3871

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Firstly this ban does not affect consoles already in stores, it is unlikely that anyone will struggle to purchase a PS3 even without imports it wont effect stores too much. Yes some stores will go out of stock but they will get them back in once the import ban is lifted. No software will be taken off sale as they are owned by the maker of the software and LG can't sue anyone that has ever released a product for the PS3. To be honest I think LG is being childish but who am I to judge when millions of dollars are being thrown about by two large corporations. It is likely that SONY will appeal the block and have it lifted before the 10 day period is up.

2011-03-01 10:23:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Woah, didn't expect that you were a bot. And a dirty one? D: And I don't get a **** about what he was talking in the video, I only heard that he repeated same thing over and over. /tiredness Yeah, when it's about Sony I don't use my head and don't wash myself for weeks

2011-03-01 10:36:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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If anyone prefers some reading material instead of the guy playing parrot in the video, try this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/feb/28/playstation-3-lg-legal-dispute Anyway, I hope the ban gets lifted soon. I find the entire situation a little petty myself, since if LG really cared about this patent thing why leave it until years after the PS3 was first released.

2011-03-01 11:19:00 Author: Moonface Posts: 310

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Compensation for every ps3 sold perhaps?

2011-03-01 11:26:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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I was kidding about the LG boycot, but I saw that some people is quite "serious" about it...so serious that they opened a FACEBOOK LG Boycott page!!! Actually in an eventual boycot scenario I think that LG is the only brand that will lose.

2011-03-01 11:39:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Let's see, rising Korean electronics giant versus long-time Japanese electronics titan. Not hard to do the math on this one. I remember when living in Japan going to all these big electronics stores and noticing the LG/Samsung brands were generally cheaper then the big Japanese names (and obviously not as popular). Personally I have always equated the Sony brand with quality and their products have been a permanent fixture in our home ever since I was a kid. At the end of the day it's all business and although LG might have won this small battle they will never win the war.

2011-03-01 12:08:00 Author: OCK Posts: 1536

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Sadly, this kind of behaviour is all too common. Corporation fighting in this way actually impedes the advancement of the human race - advancements in technology are slowed down because corporations want to extort more money from each other and the customer... and in the end it's us, the consumer, that loses out. They both look like childish morons doing this kind of thing, it will only harm both of their companys image.

2011-03-01 14:58:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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As I said it's strange that a member of an association sues another member. Bah, I've got like the idea that the LG wants to milk the Sony cow with some trick, and I smell some big political Japan-Korea affair mixed. I bought a Samsung cell phone and a Samsung TV...good but not top class, and my experience with LG stuff is that their stuff is absolutely not user friendly. And yeah...Sony means reliability for me, so I'll stick with their party.

2011-03-01 15:19:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Atleast it's only 10 days for now. Wonder if Sony will manage to do the same back to LG as part of this patent war. Is this permanent? ^ well there is still a remaining stock on the shelves. They wont remove those also will they? They said they had stock for about 3 weeks. But they're still gonna sell PS3 games right? RIGHT?! All they havem IF SONY looses, it will loose a massive amount of money, may "potentially" bring it down. For anyone afraid that this might happen in the U.S: It can't. It wouldn't be allowed, because big corporations are protected from patent stuff like this. Ex: CocaCola patent was up, the courts extended it so they wouldn't lose their seat by a bunch of nockoffs. If they tried this in the U.S I wouldn't be surprised if the courts laughed at LG. The U.S doesn't like to see bid corps taken down quickly. If SONY looses over there, it looses everywhere (because it'd still have to pay LG the massive amount of money.), so it doesn't matter if its legally protected anywhere or not. Seriosuly people, watch the veideo, all of you, wether asking questions or commenting! >_<

2011-03-01 16:38:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Seriosuly people, watch the veideo, all of you, wether asking questions or commenting! >_< First...I'm not a serious people... Second...I don't know what a veideo is... Third...I could discover that I'm veideo impaired and I don't want... Fourth...I don't want to watch... :blush:

2011-03-01 16:48:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Exactly, it's unlikely LG wins the case but if they do, it'll be a HUGE detriment to Sony, and it may be the end of the Playstation 3. Are they even making profit from PS3 sales yet? I remember about a year or two ago when I heard they were actually losing money for every PS3 sold. Does this still hold true? Not entirely sure but the fact that LG has gotten this far is a problem and it is possible we can see it in the United States. As the video states, the courts here and in Europe are not that different, if they can win an injunction it's possible we see it here. Though this is all just my 2 cents.

2011-03-01 16:51:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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Funny stuff...I'm no comunist LOL, but I would love a fair World where if LG wants a piece of the Playstation pie (because that's what LG want), they must take both the piece with mould and the one with the jam. LG, you want Sony to share with you the outcomes of Playstation? Then be ready to pay a percentage on Sony's losses too...

2011-03-01 17:03:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Why are hackers and LG attacking our PS3`s? Leave mah PS alone. I swear I half expect to see on the news that PS3`s will give your grandmother cancer and that owning one will attract giant internet spiders.

2011-03-01 17:29:00 Author: EinRobot Posts: 739

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Exactly, it's unlikely LG wins the case but if they do, it'll be a HUGE detriment to Sony, and it may be the end of the Playstation 3. Are they even making profit from PS3 sales yet? I remember about a year or two ago when I heard they were actually losing money for every PS3 sold. Does this still hold true? Not entirely sure but the fact that LG has gotten this far is a problem and it is possible we can see it in the United States. As the video states, the courts here and in Europe are not that different, if they can win an injunction it's possible we see it here. Though this is all just my 2 cents. The PS3 hardware is currently selling at cost with profit coming from the offers on the bundle packs. Sony were never taking such a huge loss on the hardware with one or two purchases of software quickly making up for the loss taken on the console.

2011-03-01 17:36:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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^ Seriosuly people, watch the veideo, all of you, wether asking questions or commenting! >_< No it's a 6 minute video. That information could have been dumped in the topic in a much more time efficent format.

2011-03-01 19:14:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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I won't support LG anymore, because I'm a dirty Sony fanbot loyalist, and Sony's enemies are my enemies. You brought LG products? I don't know if they've gotten better over the last few years but they used to have a bad reputation for making dodgy TVs and stuff.

2011-03-01 21:48:00 Author: Ayneh Posts: 2454

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What the heck? Banning a gaming console in an entire continent? Does LG have any idea the amount of raw HATE it has just brought onto itself?

2011-03-01 22:27:00 Author: Astrosimi Posts: 2046

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I eat console bans for breakfast. If they try to ban it here, then I will get to eat a giant LG pie.

2011-03-02 00:32:00 Author: VeRsioNs_Z Posts: 341

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You brought LG products? I don't know if they've gotten better over the last few years but they used to have a bad reputation for making dodgy TVs and stuff. Meh, my LG TV was big and it was cheap - and so far (2 years on) I have had no complaints with it. This is just another example of copyright lawyers sticking their greedy beaks into business and ruining things for the consumer *golf clap* Blame archaic international copyright laws.

2011-03-02 15:11:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/mar/01/sony-playstation-lg-patent-fight?CMP=twt_iph So basicly just a one country ban but the country thats currently the entry point for the PS3s.

2011-03-02 16:40:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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Can't say I'm having trouble playing any game I want these days.

2011-03-02 18:09:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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I got an idea. Sony must talk to Berlusconi, offer him some girl, then ship the PS3s here in Italy, and bang, job done.

2011-03-03 14:12:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Bump According to PlaystationLifestyle (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/03/10/300000-ps3s-were-seized-valued-at-e43-million/) , 300k consoles have been seized for a value of 43 millions of €. Holy poo Update! YAAAAAAAAAY!!! (http://www.gamersmint.com/sony-wins-all-seized-ps3-to-be-returned-and-lg-fined/) Sony’s won their case against LG and will be getting all their seized PS3’s back. All 300,000 PS3s will be returned back to Sony and all future PS3 shipments can be let into Europe without any issues or breach of law. LG will also have to pay 130,000 euros to Sony for the costs of the hearing. LG will also need to ensure that all seized PS3s are returned to Sony by tomorrow and each day they lose will cost them a fine of 200,000 euros. This verdict is only regarding the seizure of the console by LG and the fight between the two giants regarding a paten breach will continue.

2011-03-10 16:22:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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Wow.... they actually made a profit....

2011-03-10 20:48:00 Author: AA_BATTERY Posts: 1117

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Bump According to PlaystationLifestyle (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/03/10/300000-ps3s-were-seized-valued-at-e43-million/) , 300k consoles have been seized for a value of 43 millions of €. Holy poo Update! YAAAAAAAAAY!!! (http://www.gamersmint.com/sony-wins-all-seized-ps3-to-be-returned-and-lg-fined/) Any actual proof? That quote seems... unprofessional...

2011-03-10 22:05:00 Author: Whalio Cappuccino Posts: 5250

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This verdict is only regarding the seizure of the console by LG and the fight between the two giants regarding a patent breach will continue Ahh, that's good to know. At least the poor lawyers won't starve

2011-03-11 16:51:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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