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What is "V-Matter"?

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I got this... "object" from a glitch level and they called it V-Matter it is un-tweakable, and it is "icy" (Makes sounds like Ice, chunky, rolls or slips)! Does anyone know what this is any help appreciated 2011-02-25 16:20:00

Author:
chinook3
Posts: 453


o_o; Sounds interesting. Sorry mate, I haven't heard of it before. 2011-02-25 16:22:00

Author:
Fang
Posts: 578


Could you post a picture of it here? I know nothing about it.2011-02-25 17:03:00

Author:
ATMLVE
Posts: 1177


Please post what level you got from it and some picture maybe? that would be more helpfull 2011-02-25 17:16:00

Author:
Dexist
Posts: 570


Could it be icing from Victoria's levels?2011-02-25 18:21:00

Author:
Shadowheaven
Posts: 378


Doesn't sound very useful. Does it "look cool" or something?2011-02-25 19:00:00

Author:
CYMBOL
Posts: 1230


I believe it was found in LBP1. It is a glitched reflection material that shows the wilderness background... kind of...

http://i6.lbp.me/img/ft/126a0f0c52421a06cba2f13f4037982b764d74b3.jpg

It moves in a strange fashion, bouncing across the floor and making a strange 'squish' sound.
It can be changed into any other material and acts the same way. (excluding the glitched reflection)

It was in one level that was on the Cool Levels first page for about a day, and it came with other glitched objects like an unlethalized plasma ball and the helmet of the creatinator on it's side.

EDIT: I dug into my recent activity and found it. http://lbp.me/v/xzf2j4 (http://lbp.me/v/xzf2j4)
2011-02-26 01:36:00

Author:
Retro
Posts: 104


That is by far the ugliest thing I've ever seen. It's looks like a mutilated piece of bleached cloth.

That is strange. Very strange.

"V" for Vomit Material?
2011-02-26 01:40:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979


If it's that, then OH DUH.

yeah, basically it's everything described above C:
2011-02-26 01:42:00

Author:
Fang
Posts: 578


Vark Matter, duh.2011-02-26 02:35:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554


Its any material with a glitched surface. Many, many materials have glitched backgrounds, such as taxi material has metropolis background and all the shiny ones have that background. It is obtained by slicing a very thing corner off a piece of material, then you enlarge it, then you got a tiny corner off, enlarge, and repeat a few more times. It is VERY glitched. However, almost every single material in the has some sort of background like that. Sticking on a black sticker sometimes helps you see, but not always.2011-02-26 05:01:00

Author:
ATMLVE
Posts: 1177


Looks like what the MM team came up with when they tried to add the ice hazard to LPB2! :S2011-02-26 14:10:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


That background glitch is interesting. could it also be a conversion problem from 1 to 2? Queued the level. Also is that legit ratchet and Clank costume I missed somehow?2011-02-26 14:17:00

Author:
thecatreturns123
Posts: 84


That background glitch is interesting. could it also be a conversion problem from 1 to 2? Queued the level. Also is that legit ratchet and Clank costume I missed somehow?

It's from the Collectors Edition you didn't buy. It also was a preorder bonus on Amazon, I believe.

This looks very interesting. Queued!
2011-02-26 16:23:00

Author:
gamerC0LA64
Posts: 274


Whoa never seen that before O_O. Looks strange, looks like if it fell from a ufo and landed in some cornfield or something...Does MM know about this?...2011-02-26 17:30:00

Author:
Bloo_boy
Posts: 1019


I also think I found out what that guy a long time ago said is "White Matter" not Light Matter, "White Matter"... It's Light Matter but no texture is shown...
http://i7.lbp.me/img/ft/a1736417b26a32ba542fe9ae9eacca4d1130c787.jpg
2011-02-26 18:03:00

Author:
chinook3
Posts: 453


White matter can be found above the level 'Gripple Grapple' which you can get to by getting high momentum and grappling in a small space which has a grabbable light above. It has walk-through dark-matter and what acts like light matter but no texture is shown as explained by chinook3 above^2011-02-27 00:46:00

Author:
Retro
Posts: 104


Except the one a showed above I made you take glass make a square in small grid keep cutting and enlarger the glass and you get a glitch and change it to Light Matter and BOOM!!! You have something like that, even though it is still tweakable it doesn't do anything to it2011-02-27 00:54:00

Author:
chinook3
Posts: 453


yeah kinda old if its what i'm thinking of. its the glitch to make smooth glass and if you go even farther you get a material that bounces around and spazes2011-02-27 01:24:00

Author:
FocusRSdude
Posts: 145


Yeah, the reason some materials look like they have backgrounds on them is because they are supposed to be reflective, and part of the reflection would be the environment, so, an image of the background is used as the texture's reflection map. It's the same as on the Space Suit's helmet. There's a "reflection" of the Gardens.2011-02-27 01:49:00

Author:
alexbull_uk
Posts: 1287


I also think I found out what that guy a long time ago said is "White Matter" not Light Matter, "White Matter"... It's Light Matter but no texture is shown...
http://i7.lbp.me/img/ft/a1736417b26a32ba542fe9ae9eacca4d1130c787.jpg

Sounds like these might just be instances of the mirror glitch (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=22161-How-to-make-any-material-be-like-a-mirror), but I can't be certain without looking. As I mention in this post (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=50759-Tiny-visible-digital-numbers-in-create-mode&p=789823&viewfull=1#post789823), if you increase the scale factor to a certain point, the material texture is no longer rendered, and FWIW, if you do this with Light Matter, it ends up looking very much like the above photo.

In either case, perform the invisible materials (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=17759-Creating-Editable-Invisible-Material-In-Seconds) trick on them, and if they start looking like a recognizable material before they vanish, you'll know that's all it is.

Either way, be careful with these, they can (at least in LBP1) crash the PS3 in some cases.
2011-02-28 01:38:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


hmm.. That would be useful for levels that have to do with ice, like maybe a remake of the titanic material, i'm sure that it's ugly enough to crack the side of the ship. 2011-02-28 03:04:00

Author:
flamesterart
Posts: 585


It's the mirror glitch all right. The mirror glitch increases a material's bumpmap size relative to its actual size. If it's increased far enough the bumpmap will disappear and the object will start behaving very weirdly (because the rounding errors in the game's calculations will grow large enough to have an actual effect on it).2011-02-28 20:30:00

Author:
Blue Helmet
Posts: 306


It's the mirror glitch all right. The mirror glitch increases a material's bumpmap size relative to its actual size.

Upon testing, it doesn't actually increase the bumpmap size, it just stops being applied after a certain size. I bet MM would've loved to have fixed this, and the invisible materials bug, but it would break so many levels.

TBH, if they ever do make an LBP3, they ought to consider throwing back-compat in the bin in favor of making the system actually work.
2011-02-28 20:53:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


The Vilderness-material? Or VVilderness? Vussia? Velocity? Versus? Victoria Sponge?2011-02-28 21:26:00

Author:
Unknown User


i think its a fusion of my glitch (mirror glitch) of lbp1 in a lbp2 material
....I idk why V Matter
2011-03-01 17:44:00

Author:
ViniciusBR11
Posts: 546


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