Archive: 27 posts

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Edit: re-lit and camera work changed following feedback from forum I wanted to see if LBP could be used to produce a 'serious' clip, and am very happy with the result (mr modest me) However, i would of course greatly appreciate the opinions of others on this. I'll ALWAYS F4F! http://lbp.me/v/x0qmbs http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6266/ecefb0ef570d30d3991a58e.jpg http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5790/f7e3508e853694b7613a21e.jpg

2011-02-20 13:19:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Watched it. It was quite charming short film. Voice acting was fine, Setting was great, Sackbot actor did good job, but If I'm little too critic, his arms were little too big. Overall, It's worth watching for everyone. I give it a yay! I'd like you to try my F4F level "Land of The Corrupt Bits - Prologue"

2011-02-20 13:39:00 Author: Coconuts Posts: 384

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Adding to queue now, thanks for feedback and feel free to be critical, i do take it in the intended spirit have you a thread link so your feedback goes on appropriate page?

2011-02-20 13:46:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Forsooth, I have queued your level good sir.....;-)

2011-02-20 13:50:00 Author: FourteenInchGaz Posts: 110

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verilly, if 'tis well 't were done, 'tis well 't were done quickly (extra freebie bit of shakey for ya have queued you too

2011-02-20 15:06:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Verily, I found your review most satisfying, and commentary foretold of good prophecies, nay, I speak complete idiocy in th' shakespearean tongue. You would never guess I was a Writing Student, with prose like that. Anywho, your review, my fair gent. First of all, your set design is really nice, but I'd personally love to see some more dramatic lighting - why not make it really quite dark and foggy, and have a go at having the lights on dimmer so that your actor is dramatically revealed? Sound quality is great! I'd be really interested to know what kind of mic you use There is some movement at the beginning, but things are a little static on the whole. I think if you had a few more little details like the fire - eye candy if you like, and some dramatic lighting, this may help the situation without having to redo all your good acting! I'm amazed that the loading time is so good with all this dialogue! Makes me really want to go ahead and record my own voices too! On the whole sir, I am impressed. Forsooth, You shall be hearted and spoken of with good will, for thou art a master of thy craft. Seriously, really good. Nice change of pace to see a serious take on something (so speaketh the hypocrite!)

2011-02-20 18:19:00 Author: rialrees Posts: 1015

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Thanks Rialrees! Some good suggestions there, it IS very static (unusual for me, refer to my other opiususes) I think subconciously I didn;t want to detract from the wonderful words of shakespear (even tho some of them are completely unused and meaningless now, it would be a crime to alter them!) I will however strongly think on the lighting idea, thank you. The mic is a turtlebeach headset, about ?65 in the UK if i remember rightly, and in this caseit actually picked up too much, my own breathing was becoming darth vader like! I had re-published with the lighting set wrong i think at one stage, the lighting should indeed be fairly dark, i wonder if you'd seen the 'wrong' one? lol i actually at one point had some dark matter with sequencer on, so editted it, republished, to later realise that shifting the sequencer shifted all the camera angles and had to do the whole lot again, dont think anyon esaw that version tho!

2011-02-20 18:45:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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I thought this was very charming and have to applaud you for having the courage to do it and for the way you executed it. It was, however, a bit static as Rialrees said and you agreed. Her ideas for giving it a little more "drama" visually all sounded great to me. I did wonder though whether choosing a soliloquy like this one was the best way to go. They depend so much on the voice talent of the actor and his facial expression and body language - nether of which LBP (even LBP2) can really do justice to. Don't get me wrong, I thought your voice acting was good and you definitely gave the speech clearly and intelligently, i.e. in a way that showed you understood what you were saying and were able to convey that meaning. Also your Hamlet Sackboy was excellent (loved the choice of eyes!). It's just that sound quality and the limited nature of Sackboy's expressions are against you a bit. I wondered whether something a bit more dramatic would be easier to pull off. Perhaps something from Macbeth or one of the history plays? Sorry if that comes across as negative - it's really not meant to be. I genuinely enjoyed it and kudos for doing something entirely original on LBP. I look forward to seeing more of your work. EDIT: Awesome level badge!

2011-02-20 21:09:00 Author: shropshirelass Posts: 1455

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Thanks very much Shropshirelass, and please don't worry, any kind of constructive criticism is worthwhile You make some very valid points, it IS hard to convey the drama of such a static scene with the limited tools we have available, (bloomin sackbots always doing the wrong face!) which as we lose the nuances available in facial communication, leaves us with, sadly, the skills of the voice acting. I must admit I loved the work when I first put it up, but now all i can hear are the things i did wrong lol, tomorrow i may love it again All in all I'm glad I did it, i wanted to see if it COULD be done, and I think it does a good enough job to say yes, it can. Could it be done better? Undoubtedly, maybe someone with more skill in LBP or voice acting (I've only done a few movies in LBP, no 'real' voice acting experience) Thank you for saying it is original, it is a redeeming quality (of the scene not your review!) as is the music... er... no-one has mentioned the music yet, indifferent? Shame on you all, it's classic! I am going to think about some more action orientated scenes, although I doubt I'll be trying shakespear again for a bit lol

2011-02-20 21:34:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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the idea is neat, and i think people should do such stuff more often on lbp2, but as i see lbp2 is a little bit limited what expression and movement means. i know you are limited to the text, but actually it was kinda a little bit just watching him standing and speaking. i like the idea pretty much. you should continue to work a little bit to keep the watcher watching. you know what i mean? more action ( i know its limtied to the text and lbp2, but maybe recreating some action parts of films or books in lbp which fits more for that? ) actually it is a good job what you have done so far and keep it up. if you like to do a short review too plz go here: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=49851-Little-Big-LUMINES-Puzzle-Fusion&p=778580 thank you

2011-02-20 21:41:00 Author: ForcesWerwolf Posts: 475

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Thanks for comments FW, I think it pretty much supports what's been said, and thus my answer really is the same as above Oooooo just thought.. maybe LBP will alow a greater range of expression? Devs, LBP 3 now please!

2011-02-20 21:52:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Noooooo! Don't be too discouraged. I enjoyed your Hamlet a lot. Try some of Rialrees's ideas out and see what that does to give it more visual interest. You really should be proud of what you have done and I'm sorry if what I said implied your attempt had not been worthwhile. On the contrary, you have created something original and interesting. I'm sure that given the skills you've shown in producing your Hamlet speech, you could develop and improve and create something even better but in the same line. After all it's time someone made some more serious films involving Sackboy. You should love your level and be proud of it. Suggestions for improvement don't automatically mean that what's there already is bad. I'll replay and listen to the music! *goes off feeling like a person who crushes other people*

2011-02-20 22:12:00 Author: shropshirelass Posts: 1455

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nonononononono! lol i really didn't take any critique to heart! it was all valid and it DOES encourage me to push harder and issue myself some quality control, i didn't take it all as bad at all and certainly didnt mean to come across like i did, so apologies if i did

2011-02-20 22:17:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Looks good, already have it queued for tonight. Give my F4F a shot in the meantime: https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=49159-Prius_Eco-Adventure-(With-Pics-and-Video!)

2011-02-20 22:29:00 Author: Sack-Jake Posts: 1153

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hi there muddledpuppet... can i call you MM, that whould be much easier and then people could think you're from media molecule now , the level... i liked it, it was a new idea... you know "making more "intelectual" movies for smart people only" and the voice recording was good enought to be understood... the sackbot's costume was pretty realistic( altough his "way too small to be healthy"-head was kind off freaky :eek: ) and the castle (i believe it was a castle... or atleast a mansion) was well made, with shields, swords, spears, etc... in its walls... sooo... yeah, the level was pretty good, and the music went just perfect with the level... so yeah... i yay'ed it BTW: i still got no levels published in LBP2, so it whould be great from you to just hit that "thanks" button in the left-low part in my comment, you whouldnt know how usefull it whould be to me, and it whould be tax-free too

2011-02-20 23:17:00 Author: nosemomkey Posts: 414

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Hey NM yeah MM is cool, a lot of peeps refer to me as that (ie, get lost MM) i remember when LBP1 came out, i'd done a couple of simple levels and posted on a gaming forum, couldnt quite grasp why everyone was saying MM has done such a good job... Cheers for feedback, oh and i never even knew about he 'thanks' button till u pointed it out! Consider yourself thanked

2011-02-21 00:55:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Very nicely put together and amazing audio quality. There isn't much i can offer to make it any better then it already is. Perhaps a little more lighting for mood and some of the camera movement feel a little stiff. Its always enjoyable to see different takes on such classic work. Keep up the amazing work! If you would be so kind as to F4F my level -- Crystal Sky Chronicles (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=50206-Crystal-Sky-Chronicles&p=781514)

2011-02-21 01:27:00 Author: Unknown User

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To play or not to play - it's not question that I will play. I don't have an LBP2 level ready and all my LBP1 levels look horrible in in LBP2 - so, no need for F4F. I'll just put this in my que and give it a go. Really liked the idea that you made it copyable for those who want to see how a good use of tags/sack acting is accomplished.

2011-02-21 01:55:00 Author: CYMBOL Posts: 1230

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Okay, I'll queue it up I guess, but the whole reason I came here was to tell you that you spelled Shakespeare wrong. When I saw how many comments you had I assumed someone would have pointed it out to you, but reading through them I see no one did. Sadly I guess lots of gamers don't really have to much knowledge of Shakespeare. :/

2011-02-21 04:28:00 Author: LukeCF Posts: 790

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In fact, John Milton in 1630-ish wrote a poem in which he refers to the playwright as 'Shakespear'. Other spellings have also been used, such as "Shakspere" or "Shaksper", and so on. Elizabethan spelling was very erratic, and so you can find many different spellings of his name. I didn't want to get hit by a history buff when I posted, so I left out that comment

2011-02-21 08:00:00 Author: rialrees Posts: 1015

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Thanks again for comments, all are taken on board Even including the spelling! Rial rees is spot on with her reply, it took a couple of hundred years for an 'official' spelling of his name, and there has been controversy amongst academics for as long as he has been studied as to which is the 'correct' spelling. I think you've made a bit of an assumption there luke You're probably right when you say that 'sadly lots of gamers don't have to much knowledge of Shakespeare, (shouldn't that be 'too' much knowledge? Sadly I guess too many gamers don't have too much knowledge of grammer ) maybe I have made some small step and encouraged someone to take an interest, and who knows what a couple more movies may achieve? Beware of becoming a critic, to quote the bard from the same play "It offends me to the soul to hear a robustious periwig pated fellow tear a passion to tatters, to very rags." Anyhoo, following discussion with some friends (who know a LOT more about Shakespeare than I do), I've decided to plump for the 'e' on the end, even tho to me it just looks 'wrong'. So all are happy

2011-02-21 12:25:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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A big thanks to all who contributed constructive critique, I have now re-lit and improved camera work, I have to say I am much much happier with the result, thanks again to all who helped me improve it

2011-02-21 15:20:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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I can't really add much in the way of constructive criticism as I have no real insight into what you were trying to achieve. What I will say, however, is that if it was as I suspect then I applaud your decision not to emphasise too much on the visual appeal (although what IS there is very good!) so as not to detract from the performance. You are already hamstrung by the limitations of Sackboy and his acting 'range', so to further add to the distraction would be to remove from the very essence of your aim... .....having said that, maybe a few more bombs and stuff would have helped..... ;-)

2011-02-21 16:49:00 Author: FourteenInchGaz Posts: 110

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was toying with throwing in a Mech or two, waddya fink?

2011-02-21 16:55:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Hmmm....MechBeth?

2011-02-21 17:21:00 Author: FourteenInchGaz Posts: 110

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oh no... no... please... no...... god and heavens above... no .................. mods!!! Expunge this man from the forums!!!

2011-02-21 18:03:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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Good news bad news Good news: a very well known creator was kind enough to post a link to this on his tweets Bad news: made sod all difference in getting plays Bah!

2011-02-25 16:28:00 Author: MuddledMuppet Posts: 115

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