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Should MM hire community people just to choose MM picks?

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Should MM hire community people just to choose MM picks?2011-02-18 21:26:00

Author:
dr-booty
Posts: 102


No... but if they do (or even if they don't) there should be a checklist on what technically should be considered a MM pick... Should it be yet another top down ripoff of some other game? Should it be another poorly implemented RPG? Should it feature a good story? Or good gadgets and contraptions? Either way, it doesn't really matter since it's all opinion anyways... What you consider cool, I might not and vice versa...2011-02-18 21:29:00

Author:
wizaerd
Posts: 159


Well, I wouldn't think they'd actually be "hired". We could in theory have a group of people who go around choosing mm picks- voluntary- but the people they would inevitably choose would probably just create some hatred and feelings of elitism.

I'd say that they would just have members of Media Molecule pick them... they already took Spaff and Tom from the community, and chances are that picking MM Picks is a big part of their job... maybe MM could hire more people to be community managers and do whatever those two do... but I don't think hiring just for MM picks would be good (since hiring implies payment, which leads to less profits for a frivolous cause) and the selection process for volunteers wouldn't really be fair and would cause a lot of people to fear elitism...
2011-02-18 21:30:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


No, and I don't think they need to jusify or explain the criteria for what winds up there either. It's an MM pick, they liked something about it...that's good enough for me. LBP2 hasn't been out very long...give things a chance people...sheesh.2011-02-18 21:33:00

Author:
fullofwin
Posts: 1214


Neh. i think they just need to hire more people as a MM in general.
get more people like Tom and have them deal with it. *mew
2011-02-18 21:38:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Not really a Mm Pick then, is it?

...More of a People's Choice - Speaking of which, where wre the Sackies 2010?
2011-02-18 21:48:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


That's a bad idea, you get some boring levels out there like empty H4H levels, Bomb Survivals repeated all over the place it would only take the wrong people to be chosen for MM picks and the MM picks would be filled with LBP's most hated levels, as it is I think MM are doing a fine job of the MM picks no boring plain simple levels there2011-02-19 01:34:00

Author:
Elsa
Posts: 164


No for simple reason:

It kills whole idea of MM Pick
2011-02-19 03:28:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


That Means it wouldn't Really be an Mm Pick Now would it?2011-02-19 05:53:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


if your "hired" as i stated before that would mean you were MM >.<2011-02-19 06:28:00

Author:
dr-booty
Posts: 102


if your "hired" as i stated before that would mean you were MM >.<

Is this just a tricky way of achieving the 'Molecule' pin?
2011-02-19 08:31:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


if your "hired" as i stated before that would mean you were MM >.<
Yeah, they're hired, but thechnically do nothing other than that, so I don't see how that's REALLY Mm's opinion.
I wouldn't considered someone hired just to do that art of Mm, not would I trully accept theirs Picks as Mm picks.

Just more like "A Pick from a random dude hired to do this." really...
2011-02-19 08:38:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


No, MM people has to pick the stuff but I reckon a big problem.
There are tons of awesome levels that are not from people related to LBP communities that doesn't get plays, and that MM will never be aware of.
It's a shame that someone like Koknsun or RioLotta has never been MM picked, just because they're Japanese and out of the elite ambient.
Or even GEK83, that has the best character design of LBP1 and needed a mention.

For me the whole MM pick idea is wrong since MM can't play every single level out there.
For me it's just another idea to make people stressed.
2011-02-19 10:05:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


just because they're Japanese and out of the elite ambient.

Hasn't Pinkzep been Mm Picked? His level Crushes Sack. i Wouldn't say they they haven't been picked because their japanese, more like because they haven't released anything LBP 2 yet.
2011-02-19 10:29:00

Author:
Tawarf
Posts: 457


No, because everyone in the community is biased to or against someone in some way, even if it's just a little. MM should definitely have gone 'duh oh yeah, that spotlight thingamjigger have good levels in it' a long time ago though since probably 75% of MM picks in LBP1 were levels that were recommended or spotlighted on this forum months & months before MM stumbled onto it or before the creator bought some heavy duty video equipment.2011-02-19 10:39:00

Author:
Unknown User


Hasn't Pinkzep been Mm Picked? His level Crushes Sack. i Wouldn't say they they haven't been picked because their japanese, more like because they haven't released anything LBP 2 yet.

MM picks existed even in LBP1...
aaaaaaaaand...MM is too busy to pick only weird stuff on LBP2, not "cool" or "fun" stuff.
For me, the MM picks concept has derailed...it's more a "look what this guy did here" than "people, this is amazing, have fun" and I say it more from the player side than the creator side.
While I can appreciate some stuff that is in the MM picks, tech wise, some play like an horrible nightmare.
It's not a balanced thing...anyway...move on, there's nothing the community can do about it.
2011-02-19 11:22:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


There were actually quite a few Japense levels in the MM picks. There was also a feature called creator pick in the beginning and if remember correctly this one (http://www.mediamolecule.com/blog/article/creator_pick_o_tera/) featuring o-tera was the first of these. Besides LBP2 was only released in Japan like last week. 2011-02-19 11:39:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Oh, OK, so since ONCE (or twice), a guy that is not English or American has been picked up, does it changes everything?
There are A LOT of creators that are worth mentioning, into communities, or outside communities, that haven't been acknowledged yet by MM.
this (http://lbp.me/v/x7mjw-) as a pick is seriously a joke, for example...it showcases what you can do but it's baaaaaaaaaaad, and not fun to play at all.

Now, the usual MM defense force will pop up...
But, again, MM is handling things badly with the community imho.
I can make the name of some people credited for help at the end of the game that doesn't deserve it all.
I think that 2 people didn't deserve to go to the community jam, and a pack of others deserved it more.
I think that the LBPC and LBPW communities deserved at least a mention in the ending credits.
And I think a lot of things are not handled in the best way towards the community.

Anyway...sorry if I rage a bit, but I don't think that MM is working well towards the community this time.
2011-02-19 12:36:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Omega, now you're just ranting vs Mm in general.
But really, on topic. I'm pretty sure even if they hired 10k people, not ALL worthy levels r creators could be found and pick anyways.
Look, there are hundreads or thousands of awesome creators everyone thinks deserver more credit than others, that doesn't mean everyone knows about them or see them that way, and saying that just because Mm doesn't pick YOUR favorite creaors is a rather poor excuse, m8.

I don't know if you've noticed, but the majority of creators are of EU/UK/ NA, there's obviously gonna be more picks from those areas, Japan just got LBP2 like a ewwk ago, do you expect them to Mm pick EVERY single japanese level?
I mean, if you look well, there's picks from all over the world, you just THINK its NA/ England only for the fact that you dislike Mm, so you're biasing your argument, m8, but check closely nect time, you'll find levels from people from the U.S. CAnada, Mexico, Sapin, France, Italy, Rnglan, Russia, Germany, Poland, Japan, etc, etc, just because they're in english mostly does not = U.S./ England only.
2011-02-19 12:58:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


this (http://lbp.me/v/x7mjw-) as a pick is seriously a joke, for example...it showcases what you can do but it's baaaaaaaaaaad, and not fun to play at all

That's entirely your opinion. It's okay to have an opinion but to accuse Mm of doing something wrong because you personally dislike the level isn't really fair. If you look, 45,077 people liked the level, you're not the only person in the world. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean others won't either.

Also, Mm picks are doing exactly as advertised. They're not intended to be a list of all of the best levels, just a list of levels Mm personally liked.
2011-02-19 13:20:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


RaphaeI is from Poland yet he had 3 mmpicks on the row and become most mmpicked player on the beta and i bet he get more if he stay on wow effect with his levels. So i don't think nationality have anything to do with it, besides there lot of international people but simply not saying and MM don't have idea about it.

I think you don't need to be MMPicked to get a boost out of your work and be noticed, LBP1 didn't have any mmpick (as a feature) yet people knew the names. Look on BobTox, he made best LBP movie yet landed on cool pages (that imo works better and easier to get in to if you play right tactic) and just with that single level he earned 500 hearts on himself and they waiting for his series. Yet he only got level heart from Spaff... thats it

Imo to fix this negative buzz around mmpicks, they should implement this:

http://getsatisfaction.com/littlebigplanet/topics/custom_level_playlist

This would create community driven pick lists, there already few running same as mmpick was mmblog only feature: LBPC spotlight, LBPodcast feature, i know the on LBPC there a pick list of hidden gems levels and i bet it would be not only one. Also it would add more diversity (categorial lists) and publishing more rewarding and fun
2011-02-19 15:43:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Yeah Leon, I'm quite angry against MM, but it's not to defend my fave creators, it's just noticing that maybe only Spaff and Tom pick the level and they really can't see all the levels since it's impossible, so picking something only between the thing you play (not all the published stuff) is a flawed concept.
MM picks should bring things to attention, to acknowledge good stuff, but it's obvious that a lot of things will go under the radar, unfortunately, and that's a pity.
Now the point is:
Better do a flawed thing or not doing it at all?
I'm one of those that says to not do them, because I think that everyone should have the same chance to get on the MM picks, but as things are now, it gets down only to a sheer dose of luck.
2011-02-19 16:01:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Actually there more people picking ^^'

http://www.mediamolecule.com/community/mmpicks/P0/

But i don't know who who the hell is that bug thing
2011-02-19 16:06:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Well... It could work, but 3 problems

* First off, It's a cheap way to get the "Get a Job at Media Molecule. Good For You." Pin,
*Second, That destroys the whole point of the MEDIA MOLECULE Pick!
*Lastly, if MM Picks people, they will probably just MM Pick their own levels, even though they're not nearly as good as other levels.

That just proves that it's a bad idea overall.
2011-02-19 21:09:00

Author:
DominationMags
Posts: 1840


Well if the people were "hired" from the community, they would choose their own levels as Mm picks.
2011-02-20 19:19:00

Author:
Unknown User


"New Mm Pick!"
*GASP! You look inside &...*
"SUPER OMEGA BLASTER ZOMBIE MALL SURVIVAL BOMBS KILL BIEBER!!!!"
...*Gets the gun*
2011-02-22 02:44:00

Author:
IronSkullKid99
Posts: 515


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