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GAH! YLOD = Much sadness. :'(

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I really had this delusion that my PHAT 80GB - BC PS3 would outlast them all. But alas, I have suffered the dreaded Yellow Light Of Death.



I fear it may be some time before I will have the funds necessary to reinvest in a new PS3. I had such grand plans, too. So many ideas and projects in my head and on my moon.

EDIT: I am back in the creators seat again! Following advice from Morgana, I searched Craigslist and found a guy in town that fixes these (YLOD and RROD for XBOX). He was very accommodating and was able to turn it around in less than 3 hours. So I went out to dinner with my kids and came home with a working PS3.

But it all happened so suddenly folks... so remember... back up your profiles and your creations every day!
2011-02-16 06:49:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


Man, try the reflux, it works for a while, at least to retrieve your data and deactivate your old PS3.
http://playstationlifestyle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2376
You can mail the guy, Gilksy, he's nice and kind and will help
2011-02-16 07:25:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


Ouch. My sympathies are with you.
I know the pain.
2011-02-16 10:52:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


Oh no, sorry to hear that. I hope you get something sorted soon.

I've had that too.

It's about time that Sony owned up and admitted it's an inherent fault and replaced them for everyone that's had the YLOD.
2011-02-16 12:03:00

Author:
mistervista
Posts: 2210


It seems to be most if not only the 80gb that get ylod. And the majority that get it are BC 80gbs.

According to the internetz, the PS3 has a .5% failure rating, and that .5 is BC 80gb ps3's that ylod.
So everyone who doesn't have one like that might be fine.
2011-02-16 12:52:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


I really had this delusion that my PHAT 80GB - BC PS3 would outlast them all. But alas, I have suffered the dreaded Yellow Light Of Death.

My condolences. :/

Given reasonable use, I'm fairly certain all the fat PS3s are guaranteed to YLOD at some point - their design is just fundamentally flawed. You might want to give the gilksy method a try, it's not too expensive (particularly if you can borrow a heat gun), and it doesn't require much experience. Worked for me, anyway.
2011-02-16 15:19:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


So sorry to hear that v0rtex...

I know mine time will be coming at some point.
2011-02-16 15:33:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


I feel your pain! I know what you're going through.

Shame all your stuff is gone too.
2011-02-16 15:45:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


I know how you feel... Mine didn't suffer with a YLOD, it was extremely rusty instead, so it stopped working. From now on, you and me will always remember to do frequent backups! (my dad is even going to buy an external HD!)2011-02-16 17:14:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


My condolences. :/

Given reasonable use, I'm fairly certain all the fat PS3s are guaranteed to YLOD at some point - their design is just fundamentally flawed.

I was talking about this with a friend the other day actually. Do you think that all electronic products are designed with an intentional fault so that they will break after a given time. Maybe to prevent further problems (by breaking? lol) or to get you to buy a new one?

It's not just PS3's that I see this in. Ipod's, Xbox's. computers, you name it, they all seem to die prematurely. Understandably, all products aren't certain to last forever, but it seems like too good of a business opportunity to go down as just chance.

"Oh, your PS3 broke. Let me just check your warranty.........Nope, sorry. It ran out five minutes ago. Want us to fix it for an (un)reasonable fee?" -_-

Sony, you make me cry myself to sleep.
2011-02-16 18:36:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


I haz a huge sad for you Vortex

That said - all is not lost. Let me know how it goes with the attempted backup and finding someone who does the fix locally. We'll get ya back, oh yes we will!
2011-02-16 18:42:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


I haz a huge sad for you Vortex

That said - all is not lost. Let me know how it goes with the attempted backup and finding someone who does the fix locally. We'll get ya back, oh yes we will!
No go on the back-ups. It won't even stay on long enough to eject my LBP2 disc.
But I did find a guy that says he can fix it (same price you mentioned: $50).
He lives near da Boyz, and it's my night to visit them anyway, so I am leaving in just a few minutes to drop it off at his house. He says he can have it ready before I head back home tonight. So you may see me sooner than we thought. I realize that this is only a stop-gap measure (all indications are that it will give me a few more weeks to a few more months, and that it will eventually die again), but at least it gives me time to extract everything I need to and to scrounge up the funds for a replacement.
2011-02-16 21:05:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


50 $ is a scam.
It's a 1 hour and a half of work!
Even less for someone that did it already more than once.
My PS3 still works after a year but I don't use it consistently.
What I suggest is to look at what he does since it's really easy and you might repeat the reflux more than once if needed.

I considered my PS3 dead, so ME working on it wouldn't have harmed it more than it already was.

To reply to MrTShirt...
That's not about the failure rate of electric stuff, it's about the insane amount of electricity that goes into the devices and the heat it causes.
The YLOD is a really stupid thing, it's just the silver gel between the GPU and the heat sinkers that gets burnt, and the electric conduction stops, so the PS3 auto shut itself to prevent further damages.
Nothing biggie, and only due to some particular stress that the user inflicts to the console.
Mine broke after playing GOW3 for 10 hours without switching it off, and though I thought that I kept the PS3 clean, a lot of dust and dust bunnies was inside the console.
So, my suggestion is, keep it very clean, in a clean envyronment (not like my room where I smoke) and not keep it on for long periods.
2011-02-16 21:14:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


50 $ is a scam.
It's a 1 hour and a half of work!
Even less for someone that did it already more than once.


There's more than parts and labour going into the cost, there's also contributions to the mortgage/rent, lighy & heat, water, office supplies etc.
2011-02-16 22:09:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Careful, every time a "YLOD" thread is made, a fat ps3 dies
oh wait its the other way around XD


I too have a 80gb my fatty has not given me trouble even once but I know the day may come D:
2011-02-17 01:40:00

Author:
Littlebigdude805
Posts: 1924


50 $ is a scam.
It's a 1 hour and a half of work!
Even less for someone that did it already more than once.
My PS3 still works after a year but I don't use it consistently.
What I suggest is to look at what he does since it's really easy and you might repeat the reflux more than once if needed.

I considered my PS3 dead, so ME working on it wouldn't have harmed it more than it already was.
Well perhaps if you are even mildly versed in such things, but I have never in my 47 years wielded a soldering iron / heat gun. I don't know electronics, and I don't have an overly mechanical mind. Plus I'm not terribly patient. For me, it was $50 well spent. The guy did a great job and I 'm already back in business - less than 24 hours out.


I too have a 80gb my fatty has not given me trouble even once but I know the day may come D:

Yes, I used to say this all the time (because I had literally had no trouble up until two nights ago). But it came insanely suddenly... just POOF and it was off and wouldn't come back on. So back your stuff up. All the time!
2011-02-17 13:50:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


First time I did something like that Vortex
But I like to challenge myself on things that I have never done because it can be fun to try things in life.
2011-02-17 14:08:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


dang, at least MY 80gig just stopped reading disks... so i was able to transfer the data when i got my new ps3. it did start overheating quicker though!

i'm telling you... my gamecube lasted MUCH longer than my old ps3, in fact.... it just finally bit the dust a few weeks back, and thats just because of the diskdrive giving up. i bet if i got a new drive online, or fixed it using the yahoo answers way it would last another 10.

PS3 : 2 years
GC : 10+ years

Me : WTF???

EDIT- i cleaned my gamecubes lense with a cotton swab, and its reading again. seriously... WTF SONY???
2011-02-18 18:37:00

Author:
theswweet
Posts: 2468


dang, at least MY 80gig just stopped reading disks... so i was able to transfer the data when i got my new ps3. it did start overheating quicker though!

i'm telling you... my gamecube lasted MUCH longer than my old ps3, in fact.... it just finally bit the dust a few weeks back, and thats just because of the diskdrive giving up. i bet if i got a new drive online, or fixed it using the yahoo answers way it would last another 10.

PS3 : 2 years
GC : 10+ years

Me : WTF???

EDIT- i cleaned my gamecubes lense with a cotton swab, and its reading again. seriously... WTF SONY???
Basic rule: the more modern the console is, the easier it is for it to break. My PS2 went throught lots of bad times and still works, while my PS3 broke just because I took it to vacation with me and the sea dust made it rust to death... :/
2011-02-18 19:47:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Well... I'm dead in the water again. The fix lasted about 6 weeks. We've been scrimping and saving (and selling stuff on eBay), so we've got enough to go buy a 160 right now (which I will be doing later today). I had just hoped it would last long enough so we could save a bit more (would like to have the 320, as long as we're buying new). Oh well... just hope I can get my LBP2 disc out after it cools down a bit.2011-04-02 13:47:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


Awwww... sorry to hear that V0rtex. All the best and keep us posted.2011-04-02 14:25:00

Author:
jwwphotos
Posts: 11383


Sorry to hear the fix didn''t buy you more time but very happy that you used the time well How much short are you for the 320?2011-04-02 20:04:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


Bah, not you too? Good luck with the recovery... my phat is still broken and collecting dust until I can scrouge coin for a reball.2011-04-02 21:36:00

Author:
Thegide
Posts: 1465


Picked up a 160 and a charging station today. Just got it all reconfigured and am back online. LBP2 is all in good shape (except that my last profile backup was almost 3 weeks old - but I had very recent backups of the levels on my moon). Went to the store and queued up all the DLC we've purchased in the last two years (well, not all of it - but that which we still wanted to keep). Am letting it download now (too bad "Download in the Background" doesn't really happen when you're playing a game).

@ Morgy: I was $50 shy of the 320 price. But heck... we never filled the 80GB, so I'm fine with the 160. Plus, I wanted the charging station since I was losing two USB ports.

BONUS: New PS3 = New Controller. We now have 7 (if you count the one that doesn't work at all and the two older ones that work, but are kinda funky).
2011-04-02 21:57:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


(too bad "Download in the Background" doesn't really happen when you're playing a game).


Some do some don't, the ones that don't are mostly those that feature online functions.
2011-04-02 22:38:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


Some do some don't, the ones that don't are mostly those that feature online functions.
Makes sense.
2011-04-02 22:50:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


Is it just me, or is this new generation of electronics given a problem on purpose or something? I mean, look at the stuff that came before. Had my PS2 since it launched, and only 2 years did something start to go wrong.(Fixed it though, with a few good taps ) I'm on my 5th (4th if you don't count the broken PS3 Sony sent out as a replacement =/) They just don't seem to be made to last2011-04-03 19:44:00

Author:
jeperty
Posts: 486


I also have the fat 80gig bc, I've had it for almost 3 years. I've never backed up a single thing, so how is it done exactly? I also never keep it on all the time, i blow out the dust all the time, and it isn't kept on the floor, so maybe there's a good chance it will last for me. From what I've heard, its the thermal paste on the heat syncs drying out.2011-04-04 00:51:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653


Is it just me, or is this new generation of electronics given a problem on purpose or something? I mean, look at the stuff that came before. Had my PS2 since it launched, and only 2 years did something start to go wrong.(Fixed it though, with a few good taps ) I'm on my 5th (4th if you don't count the broken PS3 Sony sent out as a replacement =/) They just don't seem to be made to last
Analogy: Which kinds of leves tend to break more? The ones cramped with logic until the thermo is maxed or these with little stuff?
My PS2 can survive countless drops while my PS3 broke because we took it to our apartment by the beach.
2011-04-04 01:17:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


argh...YLOD on my 40GB model last night. About 30 minutes and a hot hair dryer later and I was back in business....BACKING UP! Haven't had to restore before, will this backup restore to a new PS3 if I were to pick up a new one tonight or is this backup tied to this PS3 only?2011-04-06 17:20:00

Author:
Unknown User


I don't know if I have an 80GB (probably), but it is a fat PS?. Problem is, I know if it dies I either have to get the money myself (I have ?115 altogether), or go without, my parents certainly won't be paying for another one. Just have to hope it lasts as long as possible.2011-04-06 17:31:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


argh...YLOD on my 40GB model last night. About 30 minutes and a hot hair dryer later and I was back in business....BACKING UP! Haven't had to restore before, will this backup restore to a new PS3 if I were to pick up a new one tonight or is this backup tied to this PS3 only?

I think if you are doing the XMB full system back-up, that you can then do a full restore on your new box when you get it. (I think).


I don't know if I have an 80GB (probably), but it is a fat PS?. Problem is, I know if it dies I either have to get the money myself (I have ?115 altogether), or go without, my parents certainly won't be paying for another one. Just have to hope it lasts as long as possible.
Yeah man... keep saving. After the first YLOD, we had it repaired (which we knew was temporary) then started looking for ways to put money into the New-PS3-Fund. One avenue we took was to sell several games and a few other items on eBay.
2011-04-06 17:40:00

Author:
v0rtex
Posts: 1878


okay...here's my plan...backup up revived YLOD system...transfer data from YLOD system to new slim...backup new slim...swap out 500 GB HDD from YLOD system to new slim...restore from new slim backup. That should take care of everything right? 2011-04-07 02:42:00

Author:
Unknown User


Man, looking at this thread, it looks to me that the PS3 Slim's release was to cash in on the YLOD. I know my 40GB model's turn will come eventually, but I have been backing up everything due to hard drive replacement. (40GB to 80GB, for the curious)

Although it would be nice if Sony updated the Backup tool to allow for a snapshot between backups, so it wouldn't take so long. (Unless you're playing LBP, of course, then you know what you can do to back up. )
2011-04-09 19:41:00

Author:
Jaymes_Keller
Posts: 27


okay...here's my plan...backup up revived YLOD system...transfer data from YLOD system to new slim...backup new slim...swap out 500 GB HDD from YLOD system to new slim...restore from new slim backup. That should take care of everything right?

I thought HDD would only work in their original unit but If it's not a factory one it might. Not really sure as I'm not a tinkerer with hardware... not anymore. lol
2011-04-09 20:23:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983


I thought HDD would only work in their original unit but If it's not a factory one it might. Not really sure as I'm not a tinkerer with hardware... not anymore. lol

My plan worked just fine. Everything restored fine and all LBP profiles showed up without anything missing.
2011-04-09 21:25:00

Author:
Unknown User


Man, looking at this thread, it looks to me that the PS3 Slim's release was to cash in on the YLOD.

Slim was all about cost cutting, with the chips becoming smaller a smaller board can be used and with the reduction in power required a smaller power supply is needed, the blu ray drive also had some reduction in size plus a few other things. With so many components shrinking a smaller case can be used reducing the material required all contributing to a much needed reduction in both production cost and selling price.
2011-04-09 22:38:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


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