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So this dude Pickle_of_Fire Boo's my level and here is his review "The guys accent seems kind of ... racist. I would use less premade obstacles as well. Nice Effort though!" Now I wouldn't normally be soo upset about this except he was linked to my level because I queued his level that he's promoting here (which I will get to in a minute). Now back to the review, yes, I admit that the Ninja Master's text contains some broken english, but c'mon HE'S A NINJA MASTER!!!!, maybe his english isn't as good as yours, and MAYBE its racist to expect it to be... I guess it is my fault because I've only watched like a billion hours of kung fu movies and I forgot how PC F'ing kung fu/ninja masters are, ITS A JOKE, don't pull the color of your skin into it because honestly I don't see color. PRE MADE obstacles!? Are you kidding me man!? All of my obstacles were made and designed by ME, I spent the better half of a month trying to figure out how to one up my previous creation and you say its premade... PLEASE by all means SHOW me where they are in the popit so I don't have to spend all my F'ing time thinking them up next time. But you would know they were mine if you used UHMMMMM maybe even 1 obstacle in your levels instead of them being snor fest walk to the right occasionally grab something occasionally jump levels. Seriously? I yay all your levels because honestly I did see you put some work into them and they were a good start, but need work I appreciate that you didn't just throw a bunch of junk together and call it a level like so many others. But how are you gonna come on here asking for hearts and yays then boo the people that are trying to help you? Your profile says " I spend a lot of time on my works and appreciate the hearts", you do obviously spend a lot of time building the signs promoting yourself in your levels, for the larger chunk of the playtime I am looking at you and reading present PROUDLY by YOU, then I walk to the right for 1.5 minutes and the level is over, but not before you drop a huge sign in my face pleading for hearts. All I'm saying is watch this Pickle_of _Fire dude, and Pickle if your gonna come on here pleading for hearts at least have the common decency to heart or yay your fellow creators in return, or don't do anything, there is no need for a boo, didn't your momma ever tell you if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all? Well mine didn't but I'm still not going to Boo someone who obviously spent a lot of time making something, I offer insight; and I boo the people that put 5 minutes into a level and then beg for hearts. http://lbp.me/v/xkygvy

2011-02-12 08:10:00 Author: Gutz Posts: 175

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No offence dude, but if everyone ranted about every bad review they got, this place'd be flooded with these threads. Just let it go, no biggie, so someone disliked the level, so what? If others like it, does it matter? You actually seem worse off, by going this far just to "rat him out" you know? Look, m8, not everyone knows what you thought while making this, and everyone has different opinions and perspectives on different matters, so maybe if you didn't mean something in a certain way, other may see it like that. not to mention the last part of your rant is basically asking for h4h/ Y4Y, not cool dude, not cool. (Pretty Ironic too, that you mention the "didn't your momma ever tell you if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all?" Considering you're not saying anything nice either, yet still ranting about it a lot instead of just not saying anything and letting it go? Think about that there for a sec, m8.)

2011-02-12 08:26:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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I'm cool with bad reviews dude, but if you come on here, and all through out your level your asking for hearts I expect you to not go boo my level, if you don't like it, don't do anything, just return to your pod have some courtesy for your fellow LBPC'ers. I'm not asking for H4H or Y4Y, like I said I give hearts where I see effort, I yay'ed all this dudes levels, and if he would have left without giving me a yay or a heart or a boo then I would have been totally fine. For the record I did say that my mom never told me not to say anything if I can't say something nice. What I do take offense at is a dude coming on here asking you to play his level (Lets be honest we are all on here to promote our levels and get yays and hearts). Then the dude tells you not to use so many PRE-MADE obstacles? I do take offense at that, I put a lot of time into those obstacles and for someone who makes a levels that you literally walk to the right, has NO obstacles and the level is over to tell me that I bit off of Mm and boo me for it is ridiculous.

2011-02-12 08:44:00 Author: Gutz Posts: 175

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So he has a loose definition of racism, and maybe the obstacle accusation was a misunderstanding, but he has the right to boo levels he doesn't like, and he wasn't trying to be mean about it, so I agree that you should try and brush it off. While we're talking about bad reviews, I was browsing levels one day, found a crappy level, rated it boo for crappy, and a day later I got a review on one of my old levels from 2008 from the author of that level saying "Wow thanks for rating my lvl down, Get back" or something like that. I don't mind the boo my level got because it was bad level I made in like the first month of LBP, but now I'm weary to boo random peoples' levels if people really get butthurt about it. ~ Blob

2011-02-12 09:37:00 Author: Blob Posts: 10

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He didn't even finish my level if you aren't going to take the time to finish the level then don't rate it (I even put a sticker sensor on ever obstacle to de lethalize them), especially if you are coming here asking for people to play your levels. Its whatever really, just saw it as disrespectful to come on here and ask for help then start booing the people that help you. Like I said you can just quit to your pod without doing anything, most people do.

2011-02-12 09:49:00 Author: Gutz Posts: 175

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Wow, getting booed bothers you this much? How ridiculous.

2011-02-12 11:33:00 Author: SeanyC-SeanyDo Posts: 115

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Wow can you guys read? Seriously? NO getting booed by complete strangers does not bother me AT ALL getting booed by people who come on here asking for your help does upset me a little ESPECIALLY if you A) didn't even finish my level, B) Don't know what the F you are talking about. I'm a new creator so cut me some slack and just leave if you don't like the ****ing level, give me some better critiques than something you pulled out of you ***, especially if your levels are simple walk to the right levels (literally). At least Im trying to make the level interesting.

2011-02-12 18:45:00 Author: Gutz Posts: 175

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I yay all your levels because honestly I did see you put some work into them and they were a good start, but need work I appreciate that you didn't just throw a bunch of junk together and call it a level like so many others. Thicker skin man, that's all you need. That's nice of you to recognize that someone put a lot of work into something and acknowledge it, but not everyone is going to like your stuff...that's just how it goes.

2011-02-12 19:03:00 Author: Chazprime Posts: 587

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Lets be honest we are all on here to promote our levels and get yays and hearts Nope, that's probably just you and a few of the other dishonest creators. Most people here do it to get feeedback on how to better their level, and if something is wrong and someone dislikes the level, you either ignore it or take their advice and try to better the level instead of ranting about the feedback. The level showcase is not a pace just to get hearts or Yays, if one person dislikes it, that's his taste, no one is "Obliged" to like your levels, or anyones, and everyone is free toBoo the level if they disliked it, even if you like theirs.

2011-02-13 01:11:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Someone doesn't need to play the whole level to notice if he likes it or not. Just like you don't need to listen to a whole bad movie to notice it's bad. While the guy might be writing a bit too much stuff on your review section, why are you so affected by it? I can't hep it but think you take it way too seriously. I also think the guy's definition of racism is quite outlandish. I don't see racism anywhere there. Why would you be upset about stupid people? Lastly, we really aren't here for the fame (well, many of us). It's a futile view of LBP2. It's about expressing ourselves by creating before collecting hearts/fame.

2011-02-13 03:42:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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Most people here do it to get feeedback on how to better their level I got to disagree there Silverleon. I personally use the Level Showcase to advertise my level, not to improve my level creating skills. Sure it'll be nice to get some feedback once and a while, but I personally want people to have fun playing my level and for me, the easiest way to know that is through Yays and Hearts. I also think the guy's definition of racism is quite outlandish. I don't see racism anywhere there I'm from Japan, but I have a lot of foreign friends so I'm not so offended by it, but alot of people ARE offended when people copy their Accent. They are trying their very best to speak another language and someone comes and makes fun of them. Don't you think you'll be offended too??

2011-02-13 03:43:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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I got to disagree there Silverleon. I personally use the Level Showcase to advertise my level, not to improve my level creating skills. Sure it'll be nice to get some feedback once and a while, but I personally want people to have fun playing my level and for me, the easiest way to know that is through Yays and Hearts. In all my time I experienced the F4F system though, I must say that I learned alot from players and from different stand points. People find bugs and you sometimes you learn something new, you even learn how to break certain stuff and certain gameplay that you couldn't know before some player shows you how. You also get a better player psychology understanding the more you get feedback from them. This is subtle after a while it piles up and you don't notice. In 2-3 years from now, if you continue to create as regularly as possible you WILL improve no matter what and you will make better levels. So while the level showcase obviously advertise your level, don't underestimate the power of feedback. To me personally, it's equally a reason for making F4F threads to promotion. I'm from Japan, but I have a lot of foreign friends so I'm not so offended by it, but alot of people ARE offended when people copy their Accent. They are trying their very best to speak another language and someone comes and makes fun of them. Don't you think you'll be offended too?? In all honesty no. Accents are real and some are well knowned. Everybody is having an accent and it's part of you and what you are. If someone uses your accent it's not offending. It if it offending, I see it as a problem with yourself or lack of maturity. If someone mocks you for your accent (or in the case here, mock you for trying to use one) then they are just less mature or intelligent people than you are. Let them be, don't lose your time with them or lowering yourself to their level by answering their crap. Just my 2 cents.

2011-02-13 03:51:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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There are just a lot of immature people that play the game, that's all there is to it. They do it just because they can. I don't get why so many people care so much about his stuff. They probably get a lot of play this way because everyone that doesn't like what they say goes & plays that persons level to compare.

2011-02-13 04:00:00 Author: IAmChavez Posts: 142

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@RangerZero Sorry, I didn't mean I take advertising over feedback. You're completely right. But I personally QA my levels with a bunch of friends before posting it on here, so my personal purpose to post levels on here are to get people playing them not debugging. But about the accents. Yes, accents are real, and are well known, but just because they are and everyone does it doesn't mean people aren't offended by it. It's not about mocking people, it's about people getting offended personally. Someone might just want to get friendly so they try copying the accent but others might just think that's offensive rather than friendly. Everyone has their own opinion, weather it be a level in LBP, or what offends them. You can't say someone is immature just because they get offended from something that you aren't.

2011-02-13 04:06:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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It is immature to write a hate letter over something they could just keep to them self & just ignored it. Messages like that aren't reviews.

2011-02-13 04:17:00 Author: IAmChavez Posts: 142

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To be more clear, of course I know people can get offended. And as they have their opinion, I can also have mine so I will continue to think it's not a good reason to be offended. I just think people should put more water into their wine, accept other people more and stop thinking everything personally. Sometimes I feel we are more and more getting into world where people are offended by everything. Once, I made something in littlebigplanet once and it sort of offended people. I did name my level "Ultra Beginners and Girlfriends". It was an easy levels for beginners and some people didn't like the "girlfriend" part, probably because they couldn't see it's not serious (+ the hyperbole of using "Ultra") or were some girl gamers that could get easily offended. Anyhow, I didn't change the name of my level. The level is obviously tongue in cheek and humoristic. Everything in it is, down the level's puck itself. The only thing I have to make sure is that my creation is respecting the game's rating (E for everyone). It's the only thing I am asked by contract. Humor is not prohibited and I can't sensor myself if I respect all I have to respect and if I am not truly hurting anyone. Point I want to make here is that while I understand some people can be offended sometimes when we do something, it's not our duty to try and predict all the possible things people might get offended about. We are not their mother and father and they have to learn for themselves that we live in a world full of different people and cultures and that there will always be differences in everything, down to the point of what is offending us and what doesn't. If we were truly taking care of not doing anything that could offend someone, we would simply do nothing. hmmm, and I guess we are going side-topic afterwall. :/

2011-02-13 06:53:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I didn't mean that we all have to make a perfect level, and you have every right not to re-name your level. But I beleive it's wrong to turn the other way and say that you're right and they're wrong. (which the OP did) Anyway, sorry didn't mean to get into a fight. Back on topic, people are crtics, people like stuff, people hate stuff. You can't make a level that everyone enjoys you just have to choose your target audience and make them happy

2011-02-13 11:49:00 Author: snowyjoe Posts: 509

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Wait... Does anyone know why this thread has that symbol?!

2011-02-13 23:40:00 Author: chinook3 Posts: 453

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I don't think everyone is on LBPC to promote and receive the hearts. Personally I get on here because there is an answer to just about anything you could think of. New stuff everyday, and sometimes to help other people with things I've done or know how to do. Just be happy you have a boo, It might be months before I actually get mine off of my moon. And [B]hopefully[B] that will be the reason I get yays and hearts. Not because I played someone else's levels and gave him a yay and they then felt obligated to return the favor. F4F is a great thing and it helps spread the word about your level, but it's not there for you to find other people to give you good ratings. He played your level, didn't like it for his own reasons, and he left you a review that told you why he didn't like it. That's more than some people get when they get booed. Not saying his is better, I don't know any of the levels in question. But if you felt that his levels were as bad as you say, then you should have booed them and told him pretty much what you said here instead of sending out a good review with a hook on it.

2011-02-13 23:58:00 Author: Kitkasumass Posts: 494

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Shouldn't have posted his PSN I.D, it's private information.

2011-02-14 01:34:00 Author: PlayBeyond Posts: 123

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I played both your levels I see how the guy guy could have taken that offensively. But from what you say his levels are pretty good. they are nothing like you described they are kinda short but have good visuals. I can see where he thought you used story objects. The spinners look like there from the islands. also the electrifiled tunnel that I don't know how to describe it but is very similar to the levels that have the attack mode bumble be in it its sort of like waves that create a envelope that you stay in.

2011-02-14 02:03:00 Author: FocusRSdude Posts: 145

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Wait... Does anyone know why this thread has that symbol?! It was moved from Level Showcase.

2011-02-14 09:42:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870

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I would let this thread pass away, but I have to massively agree with Silverleon, I am here for the feedback, sure it is annoying to never get plays, to get one stars, to get frowns, but I can delete a level and republish if it is spammed too much, like mine right now has a few slightly bad comments on it when I poked fun at a person who called it difficult...I loled him and told him I would make an easier level for people that lacked the skills hoping it would get him to try and beat it, instead I got a string of angry posts until he calmed down and apologized...then said he frowned it because he was in a bad mood. The point is I have been frowned because of massively arbitrary choices, but I have gotten some feedback from them...which is more important. I used to feel F4F was like H4H, or P4P, but thanks to several people on here I have used F4F as a great tool, even though I have yet to get several Feedbacks...growl...I don't advertise my levels for plays because like any cliche' art teacher will say, true art is never done, so posting it for plays is like saying you have finished. I want to finish my level...but I spend months and months on a level only to come back and do more...speaking of if anyone wants some feedback....my OK Apace Accident (LBP2) is there....frown away, but please tell me why...if you don't I will most likely post some slightly sarcastic post on your profile to get your goat...I like goat's milk...it is very healthy...so if you don't want someone to get your goat frown or smile, but with info as to why either...it almost seems like F4Y/N to me...if you are going to play my level I could care less, all you are doing is bumping my level to the cool thread to vanish away...it is not cool...it is just bumped with my stupid update posts and the Q4Q postings...I am off topic, but I liked where this was going, kind of freestyle posting here, sorry for taking up space on this anger driven post...I feel for him, but not enough to not be tempted to Q his level and frown it with something like "level was slightly racists, and the creator most likely can not read at above a 2nd grader's level (12 grade in the south).

2011-02-14 18:19:00 Author: celsus Posts: 822

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You'd be lucky if a ninja master spoke any English at all. Fact: ain't no american ninja. If I know my martial arts flicks, and I do, then this is a true to life dub. It's called Jenglish & may be outdated, but young kids spoiled with modern anime dubs or used to westernized hollywood films where even Israelites in 1200 A.D. & cavemen speak perfect English might not relate to a Tarrantino-style intentionally created film stereotype. He's not Japanese... he's a ninja.

2011-02-14 23:39:00 Author: Unknown User

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You know, it was just a matter of time before sackbots started creating racial problems among the community. But seriously, people need to get over where they are from and the fact that other's find their accents interesting, sexy, or funny. Oh wait... it's okay when we find it interesting or sexy. Hmmm... funny that, isn't it? Really, I could care less if someone is offended by an attempt at recreating another cultures accent. I can do quite a few fake accents, and most of them pretty well and this comes in real handy when telling a good joke. It's also going to come in handy when creating levels here in LBP2. If I end up drawing on certain accents, it's for character developement or humor.. and I won't apologize or feel bad if anyone gets offended because that's their own insecurities, and being overly sensitive that they need to deal with on their own. Unless it's blatantly making fun of someone's accent or culture in a negative way or to make them all look stupid, I see no harm in attempting to recreat an accent. If we all took offense to this kind of thing, there'd be no comedies... heck... there'd be no movies at all being made anymore because half the actors in them are putting on face accents. Ever notice that many people who get offended by the guy on the bus doing funny accents while telling a joke, don't seem to get as offended when a professional comedian or actor is doing it and getting paid for their abilities? Ever wonder why that is? I've not seen the level, but NinjaMicWZ has pointed out that this was obviously done as a storytelling element and style... to be reminiscent of those old Kung-fu films I grew up watching. If that's the case then I certainly don't see the problem here at all, and the person who took offense needs to lighten up a bit and not take life so seriously. I find it amusing because we all know full well that EVERY culture out there finds other people's languages and accents funny sounding compared to their own. It's simply hipocritical for people to say otherwise. You know full well, that the Asian business men sit around doing imitations of their NA business partners attempts at saying hello, asking for a tea, or asking where the bathroom is in their own language. I once had a pretty in-depth discussion about this at work. We were talking about what's racist, and what's not, why, etc. Someone gave an example of how offensive doing an East Indian accent is. It was interesting, because the one East Indian who worked with us piped up and said it wasn't. He then went on to admit that his people are probably the most racist in the world, because not only do they make fun of everyone else... they even make fun of each other. What it is that makes one person react negatively to one type of accent yet laugh at another ... we'll never know. But I do know this, you can't please all the people all the time. Now if y'all will excyuse me... I have a Sackbot with a Suthern aycsent that ahh needs to atteynd too.

2011-02-15 18:36:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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hat makes it racist is a negative hostile attempt. Like the old drawings of Japanese in the WW2 propaganda, or like the pictures of jewish money lenders in the pamphlets I have seen handed out by certain groups. If you want to really know what is racist watch some Ali G or Sarah Silverman and you will see good examples. Nothing funnier than people telling Ali he would not understand because he is black...when he only acts black enough to make them assume he is. Sarah's being kept out of the Tennis Court because of her race is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Back t the point, why does everyone frown me? I think it is because they are racists, you know who I am talking about...those kind of people, they are all the same...happy gadders!

2011-02-16 18:15:00 Author: celsus Posts: 822

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