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Controversial Debate Thread
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| Topic #4 - Euthanasia/Right to Die (Starts page 5) Well "General Chat" has been boring lately so I decided to make this thread so that we can all have a nice happy argument. I think the first topic should be the death penalty, what do you guys think? | 2008-11-15 22:54:00 Author: Killian  Posts: 2575 |
| We had one of those but it didn't work so well.... maybe this one will? As for the death penalty, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." | 2008-11-15 22:59:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| We had one of those but it didn't work so well.... maybe this one will? As for the death penalty, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." So it begins... I'm for the death penalty but only in extreme conditions. If one person kills another and there is undeniable evidence that they did it, they should be sentenced to death. If some one admits to killing another but no evidence is present they shouldn't be killed as they could be protecting some one else or may have been threatened into admitting it. | 2008-11-15 23:05:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| It's just so barbaric, it makes me sick that we are still that primitive. Revenge does not bring anyone back to life. The killer should be rehabilitated, punishment does not do anything but cause even more pain. | 2008-11-15 23:10:00 Author: Unknown User |
| If a person has killed they can do it again, despite years of rehabilitation. Many killers sentenced to life in prison have taken every chance they've gotten to kill again. They kill for enjoyment, not emotional stress. | 2008-11-15 23:24:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| It's just so barbaric, it makes me sick that we are still that primitive. Revenge does not bring anyone back to life. The killer should be rehabilitated, punishment does not do anything but cause even more pain. I agree. The Death Penalty is just too extreme. However, I would be for the death penalty if let's say someone murders hundreds of people. | 2008-11-15 23:43:00 Author: Night Angel  Posts: 1214 |
| I agree. The Death Penalty is just too extreme. However, I would be for the death penalty if let's say someone murders hundreds of people. Hundreds? Now that's an achievement! The death penalty merely ensures a person won't kill again, potentially saving lives. | 2008-11-15 23:49:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| And another one comes... The Death Penalty is a tricky subject. I personally believe this is another case of logic versus heart. Logically, why should we spend millions to keep insane men who have killed tons of people and may do it again if they are let out or escape? What purpose would they serve our tax dollars? Then, if we use our heart, we would, as Marino said, think that this is too barbaric. After all, to use the Batman mentallity, we are lowering ourselves to their level. Who's to kill a man for a crime? are they not a man? Or what? But, of course, logically, we should probably get rid of excess people who only raise taxes for no reason... but then if we use our hearts, we can't bear to see that. Tricky desicion, there. | 2008-11-16 00:00:00 Author: RockSauron  Posts: 10882 |
| the death penalty... if there is 100% proof of a murder then i think the person should die..... there is no excuse for murder there is no point... but as for how the death penalty should be done im not sure... | 2008-11-16 00:08:00 Author: Snrm  Posts: 6419 |
Barbarians..all of you.  The government has no right to kill it's own citizens, or anyone for that matter. If someone kills, guilt is a harsh enough punishment. I am against the prison system, but that isn't the topic. | 2008-11-16 00:32:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Barbarians..all of you. The government has no right to kill it's own citizens. No but if the people choose it so the government can't refuse. | 2008-11-16 00:33:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| I guess this is just one of those moral things. I don't think killing can be justified by anything. Someone is killed. So kill the person who killed the other person? Then what? Was that supposed to do anything? The family's pain is still there.  | 2008-11-16 00:40:00 Author: Unknown User |
| In before religion...and the subsequent tongue-lashings by the moderators I say kill in the most severe cases with suspects that have no hope of rehabilitation. The Earth is already too crowded and it saves the people money. That is just the logical, uncaring part of my brain talking. | 2008-11-16 01:44:00 Author: Voltiare  Posts: 646 |
| You could have just revived the other thread? ;_; I want my Experience Points dangit D: | 2008-11-16 01:50:00 Author: Stix489  Posts: 2080 |
| Did you know it costs 40k more dollars to kill a person than it does to keep them in prison? D: | 2008-11-16 02:02:00 Author: Code1337  Posts: 3476 |
| Did you know it costs 40k more dollars to kill a person than it does to keep them in prison? D: It wouldn't be like that if it weren't for all the legal barriers, though. MEYEPP! | 2008-11-16 02:26:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| It really depends on what one thinks the reason for the death penalty is. It doesn't deter crime. It does prevent that person from killing again, but so does a life sentence without parole. If one was sadistic enough to say that it makes murderers suffer, I'd say life in prison causes far more suffering than the death penalty. I'm personally not a fan of the whole "human life is precious" thing but that's really not the only reason not to support the death penalty. | 2008-11-16 03:59:00 Author: dobilay  Posts: 60 |
| I'm not for the death penalty at all I just don't think it solves much.... Just give them a life sentance and cal of done! Y take something so precious as life away? I no some of ubwill say "but thy killed someone" 2 wrongs don't make a right | 2008-11-16 04:09:00 Author: ea9492  Posts: 444 |
| Did you know it costs 40k more dollars to kill a person than it does to keep them in prison? D: how you could just put a bullet to there head if you wanted to be mean and finish it. it wouldnt cost 40k more. But the talk has turned me over. so the people against the death penalty have convinced me im preety much done in this topic now i just gotta wait for the next topic to be made. when will the next topic be made by the way? and this thred seems to be going preety good no spam coming yet | 2008-11-16 05:45:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| Interestingly enough, murderers typically have different brain activity than normal people, and usually don't regret or feel sorrow for those they killed. This is especially prevalent in serial killers. So, if they don't suffer from life imprisonment, is anything really being solved? As for it costing more to keep them on death row, it's almost 100% because of all the legal preceding that the lawyers go through to try and get them off death row. There was a recent case where a lawyer argued a week (or something) before his client was to be executed that he was too fat and would feel pain before he died. The death penalty would be a deterrent, if it were used more often, or even used when it should be. I do support the death penalty. For those who think it's barbaric, how would you feel if someone killed one, or more than one person in your family? Surely life in prison would suit the crime right? Get to live and have 3 meals a day for the rest of their lives, while you have to suffer through the grief and misery because those you loved are no longer with you? | 2008-11-16 07:10:00 Author: LightGrenades  Posts: 218 |
| how you could just put a bullet to there head if you wanted to be mean and finish it. it wouldnt cost 40k more. But the talk has turned me over. so the people against the death penalty have convinced me im preety much done in this topic now i just gotta wait for the next topic to be made. when will the next topic be made by the way? and this thred seems to be going preety good no spam coming yet There's so much paperwork that has to go through, that it costs 40k more to murder them than to just keep them for life. | 2008-11-16 08:23:00 Author: Code1337 Posts: 3476 |
| how you could just put a bullet to there head if you wanted to be mean and finish it. it wouldnt cost 40k more. But the talk has turned me over. so the people against the death penalty have convinced me im preety much done in this topic now i just gotta wait for the next topic to be made. when will the next topic be made by the way? and this thred seems to be going preety good no spam coming yet The majority of people on death row have done everything in their power to stay alive. Though it may seem worse to spend your life in prison, when faced with death anyone would resist. The death penalty is the ultimate punishment for the ultimate crime. | 2008-11-16 10:01:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| I am sort of for the penalty (for those that have actually done crimes such as murder), but imagine those that were innocent or framed. I imagine life is a better option, the convicted have to wake up every day knowing that they will never return to civilization. It also allows the innocent to gather evidence and place an appeal. | 2008-11-16 13:28:00 Author: floor3013  Posts: 287 |
| No one deserves death. The greatest example anyone can give, is what Marino said and should've ended there. "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." The Death Penalty does two major things: a)It progresses the idea that killing others is normal if you've been wronged in an equal fashion, and if you do it through the law. b)This impact on society can cause a slow deterioration of society's sensitivity to human life. The more ways we find to justify killing others will eventually just make us not believe human life isn't as important to protect as we once thought it was. The most important aspect is probably that society tries to promote that human life is important. Forget religion and thou shalt not kill, it's just not right to take a human life. Personally, I think letting them live with the crimes they've done in an isolated prison for the rest of their natural lives is probably the worse punishment out there. Let them live their lives in solitude, so they can live with the crimes they have committed as long as humanly possible. Sure, you religious folk will think and say that hell is their eternity of punishment, but think in a non-religious way for a second (Even if it's hard for you) I myself think their personal debt is better paid in a life sentence. I don't know. I guess I don't get the principle. Killing people is against the law, yet we use the law to kill others. I simply don't get the lesson learned there. So it's okay to kill someone if they've killed someone you loved, as long as you don't act on your own and use the law instead to justify your anger and resentment. | 2008-11-16 13:54:00 Author: Forsaken  Posts: 950 |
| Oh, duh! It was Gandhi who said "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". Sorry, was trying to figure out where I heard that before. :/ Well, again, in a state of pure logic we would probably only keep those people who are needed for the advancement of society, and throw out those who will only waste resources. But we aren't Vulcans, are we? Or people from that episode of the twilight Zone either :/. | 2008-11-16 14:24:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| well thinking about it now . the death penalty was never used. look at Al Capone he had hired so many assassians to murder and they murdered a lot of people. if it wasnt used on him then it isnt going to be used on much else killian can ya edit your first post with the new topic cause this disscussion is say is over. i think were all turned to against death penalty. not sure bout floor though | 2008-11-16 16:43:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| I don't know. I guess I don't get the principle. Killing people is against the law, yet we use the law to kill others. What do you mean killing people is against the law? Cops can kill people and not break the law. Killing in self defence is not against the law. | 2008-11-16 16:48:00 Author: dobilay Posts: 60 |
| What do you mean killing people is against the law? Cops can kill people and not break the law. Killing in self defence is not against the law. Killing someone is against the law, even for a police officer. A police officer can't go and kill anyone can they? Murder will always be murder. Self-defense is another thing now, and of course is and should be generally accepted. (And that's what Police Officers when they so happen kill someone, Self Defense) @snrm007: Actually leave the same topic. There are a lot of people who haven't posted yet. | 2008-11-16 17:09:00 Author: Forsaken Posts: 950 |
| I don't think that killing is ever a valid answer. Who gains if someone is killed instead of put in prison for life? Also, most murderers should go to prison for life. Unfortunately many get out due to prison crowding, legal loopholes, or loose state laws. I say most because some murders are accidental and some murderers are truly changed. | 2008-11-16 18:39:00 Author: RadarFlea  Posts: 85 |
| See my sig. | 2008-11-16 19:10:00 Author: Code1337 Posts: 3476 |
| @snrm007: Actually leave the same topic. There are a lot of people who haven't posted yet. true we can give it a bit of time  | 2008-11-16 21:42:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| if the person is a complete savage then yes like if they killed multiple people and are not sorry that they did it then i say do it, it would be better not to have those people in prison or on the streets but if not then it gets a little ify for me and it would depend on the case or what the person did thats my 2 cents Cheers! | 2008-11-16 21:55:00 Author: RAINFIRE  Posts: 1101 |
| No one deserves death. The greatest example anyone can give, is what Marino said and should've ended there. "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." The Death Penalty does two major things: a)It progresses the idea that killing others is normal if you've been wronged in an equal fashion, and if you do it through the law. b)This impact on society can cause a slow deterioration of society's sensitivity to human life. The more ways we find to justify killing others will eventually just make us not believe human life isn't as important to protect as we once thought it was. The most important aspect is probably that society tries to promote that human life is important. Forget religion and thou shalt not kill, it's just not right to take a human life. Personally, I think letting them live with the crimes they've done in an isolated prison for the rest of their natural lives is probably the worse punishment out there. Let them live their lives in solitude, so they can live with the crimes they have committed as long as humanly possible. Sure, you religious folk will think and say that hell is their eternity of punishment, but think in a non-religious way for a second (Even if it's hard for you) I myself think their personal debt is better paid in a life sentence. I don't know. I guess I don't get the principle. Killing people is against the law, yet we use the law to kill others. I simply don't get the lesson learned there. So it's okay to kill someone if they've killed someone you loved, as long as you don't act on your own and use the law instead to justify your anger and resentment. Well it looks like I'm seriously outnumbered here and have "lost".  Maybe it's because I feel human life is that important. If I was lawfully permitted, I would sentence hundreds of drug dealers/addicts, rapists etc. to their death. They are the ones holding the advancement of the human race back. They leech from the rest of us. Next topic? | 2008-11-16 23:24:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| hmm not sure what next topic should be anyone got any ideas? | 2008-11-16 23:46:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| How about abortion? Everybody likes babies. | 2008-11-16 23:48:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| Fetuses =/= Babies. Pro-Life is Anti-Woman. | 2008-11-16 23:54:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Fetuses =/= Babies. Pro-Life is Anti-Woman. Abortion it is. Topic #2 - Abortion | 2008-11-16 23:56:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| How about we do another question because I say so! >:0 If you knew someone just killed millions of people, but they did it to save the world- and you know that if you punish him for what he's done, you'll just cause millions more to die, so do you let an an insane genocidal murder who killed 3 million in a heartbeat live the rest of his life to prevent more deaths? Or do you punish him for his crimes and make all those deaths for nothing? *snff* I love that ending... Ah, potatos. foiled again. :0 | 2008-11-16 23:58:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| How about we do another question because I say so! >:0 If you knew someone just killed millions of people, but they did it to save the world- and you know that if you punish him for what he's done, you'll just cause millions more to die, so do you let an an insane genocidal murder who killed 3 million in a heartbeat live the rest of his life to prevent more deaths? Or do you punish him for his crimes and make all those deaths for nothing? *snff* I love that ending... Ah, potatos. foiled again. :0 Logically I'd let him live. After all one of those people could be me. grr Anyway, abortion! I'm for abortion if the parents are unfit to care for a child. Of course they could put the child up for adoption... I've ruined my own argument... | 2008-11-17 00:03:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| Fetuses =/= Babies. Pro-Life is Anti-Woman. So.... What about those women who are pro-life? That is such an ignorant thought and post, I can't even being to figure out how to answer... | 2008-11-17 00:54:00 Author: LightGrenades Posts: 218 |
| The majority of pro-lifers are men. What if men could become pregnant and they didn't want to have the child? It would be different. You can deny it but you know it. The government does not own women uteruses. They should choose what they want to do. If they want to have the baby, that's great. If they don't, great. It is their choice. Ignorant? I think not. Men shouldn't even have a say in abortion. They will never know what it is like to go through labor. And yes, I am a male. ------ WARNING: Contains very mature comedy, goes against normal forum rules. You are warned: MrXvDXVhqfU | 2008-11-17 01:19:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Aww, and I wanted to prolong my input on the other topic for as long as possible, since I'm the controversial loony to stand firm behind the death penalty. My point about the last topic is simple, it's not a matter of dropping the death penalty, it's a matter of when it should be dealt. That's where the controversy is. To make a long story short, cleanse the gene pool and relieve me of mortal stress, thank you. And on to abortion! No. Don't go around doing things and then complain about the consequences of your actions. If you're going to do something, you'd better be ready to withstand the outcome. | 2008-11-17 13:27:00 Author: ScytheOfGrim  Posts: 438 |
| No. Don't go around doing things and then complain about the consequences of your actions. If you're going to do something, you'd better be ready to withstand the outcome. Nice argument.......not. I suggest you put that point of view across to some women who have been made pregnant after a sexual assault or date rape, I'll bet q ?5 you don't make it out of the room alive. Oh and Scythe nice assumption there that no-one has ever made a mistake, if you do I'll make sure you know about it. What about serious inutero abnormalities, should they not have the choice to abort if the childs quality of life is severely compromised? Its the womans body, its her choice in my opinion. Ok we could argue at what point it should be allowed up to but thats a whole separate debate. The planet is far too heavily populated to not allow abortion imo. | 2008-11-17 13:48:00 Author: Piratepete  Posts: 110 |
| It's not just about pro-life and such. A woman should have they choice to choose if they don't want a baby or not. I'm basically neutral to this. Always was in the debate we had in school, always was when I saw threads about this in forums. I think abortion is acceptable, but only under certain conditions. I understand that this impacts the perspective of human life in other people. It's like killing a baby right? I don't know if Killian chose the abortion topic on purpose, to relate to the Death Sentence somehow. And in the case of going ahead with an abortion, it should be done before 2 weeks. The embyro is still a generic cell during this time--something similar that you would find in bone marrow for example. And on to abortion! No. Don't go around doing things and then complain about the consequences of your actions. If you're going to do something, you'd better be ready to withstand the outcome. I'm glad someone brought this up. What if said woman got raped and pregnant, and wanted an abortion. It's not her fault it happened. | 2008-11-17 14:06:00 Author: Forsaken Posts: 950 |
| There's a difference between being made to do something, and doing something of one's own accord. I was speaking only of the latter, as the former is much more controversial and would require a much more in-depth response and outlook to. In the latter, my statement stands strong, as you've obviously agreed by stating the simple "what if", but with the former, it's very subjective. It's close to impossible to say that a woman should not have an abortion when it comes to rape and the such, because there are many other things to be taken in. I find it understandable for a teen to have an abortion, simply because they aren't ready yet (again, this is only if they didn't come to the result willingly), and the same would go for anyone that was raped, to be honest. From physical defects to mental shortcomings, rape is a whole different situation, so for you to have attempted to wipe away my words with a simple wave of the hand, that's a simple lack of analysis on your behalf. | 2008-11-17 14:19:00 Author: ScytheOfGrim Posts: 438 |
| I do agree that people should be made accountable for their own decisions. Key word is should. The problem is that we're not living in a perfect reality and unfortunately people don't think of the consequences of their actions. Statistically the kind of parents that have abortions tend to have children with issues themselves. They grow up without the attention and care that they need and ultimately live what one may consider a pretty sad life. Some people say that abortion is wrong because the fetus never chose to die. I ask them this, did it ever chose to be born? Considering the lives that otherwise aborted babies tend to live, I'm certain that many of them wouldn't even want to be born in the first place. Edit: What I find odd is the group of people that are pro-life and for the death penalty. How do they rationalise that? | 2008-11-17 15:52:00 Author: dobilay Posts: 60 |
| Ok. Unfortunately the little forray into this thread has made me realise 2 things. 1. I am at work so don't have time to place a rational response. 2. There's too much simple right wing generalisation for me to not explode with incandescant rage. ok three things: 3. Arguing in a forum is about the worst way to argue that exists on planet earth. Its easy to misconstrue any point that someone has typed, and difficult to make the point you want without it being misconstrued. (this is not a dig at anyone merely an observation from arguing on forums in the past) Therefore I shall back slowly away from this thread, arms in the air, and just close the door as i go. *click* Oh go on then. "Statistically the kind of parents that have abortions tend to have children with issues themselves. They grow up without the attention and care that they need and ultimately live what one may consider a pretty sad life." This statement alone is the sole reason I'm not going to post anymore on this thread. Maximum generalistion, minimum facts, an so wrong for so many reasons. Its like saying that because I like cheesecake my children will like cheesecake, indeed you cannot assume that. Look at all the successful people, millionaires that have come from broken homes to go on and be a success, or how many born with a silver spoon die in the gutter with nothing. Someones lineage says zero about how they live their life. nope still angry gotta go | 2008-11-17 16:25:00 Author: Piratepete Posts: 110 |
| Statistically the kind of parents that have abortions tend to have children with issues themselves. They grow up without the attention and care that they need and ultimately live what one may consider a pretty sad life. Uh... you do realize that statistically, it's not the people who don't want kids who get the most abortions? It's more often the people who already have kids who get an abortion because they can't afford another child financially with the children they already have? Thus, statistically, most people who have abortions have them to care for their existing children right, and don't abuse them, according to the statistics you say say the opposite? Sort of like that animal philosophy- if only one of their children has a likelyhood of surviving, the parents let that the ones with no chance of survival die because it would just waste food to care for something that would die soon after. Yep. And now, if I may, might I change the thing? If you could end world hunger by killing a man in cold blood, would you do it? Would knowing anything about that man change anything? | 2008-11-17 20:38:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| I don't know if Killian chose the abortion topic on purpose, to relate to the Death Sentence somehow. Indeed I chose it as I wanted to see what people who who against the death penalty thought about killing fetuses. I feel that a woman should be able to get an abortion if she chooses so. I wouldn't consider killing an early fetus a crime as it isn't conscious of it's own existence. This argument can lead to: "Well would you pull the plug on some one who has suffered head trauma and has lost consciousness?" and I say yes, if there is no foreseeable recovery. | 2008-11-17 20:43:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| my genreal say on abortion Abortion is preety much killing a baby. But i say abortion is right if the mother/father are not fit to have a baby that means they can barely pay bills, not enough food, not enough room But other than that i think abortion is crazy and if your having triplets or somthing like that abortion is an answer you could give them up for adodtion. i mean isnt there a show where a lady had 6 kids in 1 pregnancy! yeah she didnt have abortion even though she already had 2 kids! so multiple kids doesnt call for abortion immediatly | 2008-11-17 21:11:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| Uh... you do realize that statistically, it's not the people who don't want kids who get the most abortions? It's more often the people who already have kids who get an abortion because they can't afford another child financially with the children they already have? Thus, statistically, most people who have abortions have them to care for their existing children right, and don't abuse them, according to the statistics you say say the opposite? If that was true, which I can't really say for sure or not, it would still prove my point. That child wouldn't have grown up with cared for sufficiently, perhaps none of the other ones would, because they don't have enough money to actually raise a child | 2008-11-17 21:13:00 Author: dobilay Posts: 60 |
| This is a no-brainer, really. I mean, purely scientifically speaking, a clump of cells isn't a baby. Abortions don't kill babies. They kill parasites that have the potential to be a baby. Parasite: an animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or plant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host. Are you saying that any woman who has a period, which has the potential to be a baby, is a serial killer? The clump of cells isn't even self conscious. It has no idea it is alive. It has no feelings. Fetuses may resemble babies, but there is a big difference: one is self conscious, and one is not. Hell, infants aren't even conscious. This world is overpopulated as it is, why bring even more people into this world? | 2008-11-18 19:50:00 Author: Unknown User |
| So what should the next topic be? Meaning for life? Suggestions? | 2008-11-19 20:37:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| What meaning for life? Haha, I love the fact that I will pretty much disagree with everyone else on any topic. | 2008-11-19 20:39:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Topic #3 - Meaning of Life My opinion on the meaning for life is to survive as long as possible and to reproduce. Just like every other organism. | 2008-11-19 20:42:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| What Killian said. Wow, you're awesome! I knew you were nice and all, but I never knew you share my views! :arg: | 2008-11-19 20:46:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Topic #3 - Meaning of Life My opinion on the meaning for life is to survive as long as possible and to reproduce. Just like every other organism. Took words right out of my mouth. Yhe meaning of life to to ensure the next generation- which, in turn, would say that sex is the meaning of life. o_0 | 2008-11-19 20:46:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| Yes, to pass your genes to your offspring, thus continuing your lineage. Of course, we can always make up your own subjective reasons. My self-given quest in this life is to acquire as much knowledge about this universe as possible. :arg: | 2008-11-19 20:51:00 Author: Unknown User |
| the meaning of life= to enjoy your time in your lifespan to have a family and to care for them <3 ^ which includes sex like what all the above posts say ^.^ | 2008-11-19 20:53:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| Now we wait for a theist to post, then we can enlighten them... | 2008-11-19 20:54:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| the meaning of life= to enjoy your time in your lifespan to have a family and to care for them <3 ^ which includes sex like what all the above posts say ^.^ But 'm not saying sex is the meaning of life. It is merely the method of how our genes move to the next generation. But gays! They do not live in the meaning of life! They don'ty pass their genes- they are free from the system, free from all control! Which reminds me of an idea for a story where people just create children in factories without any sexual body parts so humanity could just be pure logical or something. Probably already done, though. | 2008-11-19 20:57:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| My friend gave me the most irritating reason to believe in God and he won't budge on it! He said "I don't get any advantage from not believing in God so I might as well, just in case". | 2008-11-19 21:02:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
| How about the lack of all rationality? That doesn't phase him? | 2008-11-19 21:03:00 Author: Unknown User |
| My friend gave me the most irritating reason to believe in God and he won't budge on it! He said "I don't get any advantage from not believing in God so I might as well, just in case". Sounds like fear to me, that's the main reason Christianity is still the dominant religion. | 2008-11-19 21:19:00 Author: Code1337 Posts: 3476 |
| Sounds like fear to me, that's the main reason Christianity is still the dominant religion. Let's not forget control! Its easy to get away with things in the government when you hide behind religion. | 2008-11-20 19:58:00 Author: Justin Hopewell  Posts: 135 |
| Can I change the discussion? I want to see what some of yours opinions are on this, and it's better then my previous two suggestions. Do we have the right to die- i.e., if a man is super sick or did a horrible crime he can't live with, should he have the right to request an end to it all, or should we force him to live? >_< You can wait till after this one to do it I guess, but I want to make sure this is a topic later on. Please...? | 2008-11-20 20:23:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| yeah i would say that is a legiable disscussion! | 2008-11-20 21:28:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| My friend gave me the most irritating reason to believe in God and he won't budge on it! He said "I don't get any advantage from not believing in God so I might as well, just in case". I think it was Pascal who said something like that. And why does life need a meaning? I honestly don't understand why people ask the question. | 2008-11-20 21:57:00 Author: dobilay Posts: 60 |
| The meaning of life is to exist and to pass on existance of the species to the next generation. And yes, people should have the right to end their existance. Yeah, their family will cry or whatever, but oh well. | 2008-11-20 22:21:00 Author: Voltiare Posts: 646 |
| The meaning of life is to play LittleBigPlanet. In other words, i have no actual opinion on the matter because i've never thought about it throughly... Well, i better get started i guess! I don't think life has a meaning... I don't even think people should care if it does... We shouldn't alter our life in fear of an afterlife, and i think you become quite strange if you run around trying to pass your gene's around like there is no tomorrow. People should enjoy what life they have (not in a, if you enjoy killing, kill, sort of way). That way they can look back with no regrets and will always be true to themselves. Of course, religion and children are key factors of life. I'm not saying we should ignore them, i'm saying we should let them balance us out, and live life to the fullest by being good parents and human beings altogether. I think i went majorly off track there; as mentioned, they are my first thoughts, so they will remain uneditted .Also i second RockSauron's vote to change the topic to euthanasia/right to die, it would be a good topic. | 2008-11-23 00:30:00 Author: FrozenNeon Posts: 77 |
| Wait a sec. What are we debating? | 2008-11-23 00:33:00 Author: Unknown User |
| The meaning of life is to play LittleBigPlanet. In other words, i have no actual opinion on the matter because i've never thought about it throughly... Well, i better get started i guess! I don't think life has a meaning... I don't even think people should care if it does... We shouldn't alter our life in fear of an afterlife, and i think you become quite strange if you run around trying to pass your gene's around like there is no tomorrow. People should enjoy what life they have (not in a, if you enjoy killing, kill, sort of way). That way they can look back with no regrets and will always be true to themselves. Of course, religion and children are key factors of life. I'm not saying we should ignore them, i'm saying we should let them balance us out, and live life to the fullest by being good parents and human beings altogether. I think i went majorly off track there; as mentioned, they are my first thoughts, so they will remain uneditted .Also i second RockSauron's vote to change the topic to euthanasia/right to die, it would be a good topic. Good point. Topic #4 - Euthanasia/Right to Die I've never thought about the matter thoroughly but I believe if some one wants to die, either from emotional or physical pain, they should be able to after all possible efforts to help them fail to help. | 2008-11-23 00:38:00 Author: Killian Posts: 2575 |
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