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What's wrong with the Prius?

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Hey!

The level LittleBigPrius is there to give players some fun and advertise the new Prius.

But on the Playstation page with competition details people have been giving the Prius some serious stick! This is quite annoying as it's not a bad car and the page is for a LBP2 competition and people have been spamming it with 'I hate the Prius because... it's rubbish!' The truth is, it's really not. And it's a car.

I like the Prius because it's eco-friendly. It's a great piece of engineering and everyone hates it. Sure, the sudden breaking could hurt you.

Why do you like it/not like it? Debate.

*I don't think this belongs in a Toyota blog because the spamming (which we all hate) was on the PlayStation website.
2011-02-04 21:37:00

Author:
mutant_red_peas
Posts: 516


Trolls do the darnest things!2011-02-04 21:39:00

Author:
Chump
Posts: 1712


Its rather slow in GT5 compared to other cars of similar type, playstation...... Gran turismo.....2011-02-04 21:44:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662


It causes smug.2011-02-04 21:58:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728


The brakes.

Cheap shot: Taken.


But really, didn't you see all the coverage about the brakes not working?
Thats the whole reason that Toyota went on this "It's Eco-friendly and safety is our number 1 priority!" campaign, which is 99% likely the reason they wanted to team up and put a level in LBP. Convincing kids and people who don't know about your products safety will generate more potential buyers, then when they start buying others will take notice, and if the brakes work now then people will start buying again.

Plus, Americans like big noisy cars.
2011-02-04 22:23:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


Ok.. possible long rant, I don't know, we'll see where it ends. But before I go into it with the Prius, I will say the PS blog, Toyota's post about the competition, and the LBP level are not the proper places to troll on the Prius and greenies who like and drive it. Not meant to be offensive.

[Start rant]
The Prius. It's far from being actually eco-friendly and even further from being some sort of great piece of engineering. Everyone also doesn't hate it, usually the majority of car people hate it with a passion while everyone else buys into Toyota's hype and love it. (Like most of Hollywood)

It's not eco-friendly. It saves somewhat on gas, while using the same amount of energy to make as every other car, and eats rare materials at an exponential rate to make batteries. That will cause the next shortage to be not oil, but rare metal.


The nickel is mined in Sudbury, Ontario, and smelted nearby, doing damage to the local environment. The smelted nickel is shipped to Wales, where it is refined. Then it is sent to China to be made into nickel foam. Then it goes to Japan, where it is made into a battery. Then it goes into cars, some of which are shipped to the United States and some of which go to Europe. All of that seaborne transport consumes a lot of fossil fuel.

CNW Marketing rates cars on the combined energy needed "to plan, build, sell, drive and dispose of a vehicle from initial concept to scrappage." A Prius costs $2.87 per lifetime mile. By comparison, an H3 Hummer costs $2.07 per lifetime mile. Then there will be the problem of disposing of the used batteries.

Yeah, no, it's not planting trees and growing back the Amazon as it drives along the highway, barely keeping pace with everyone else. That's just the next issue, a "great piece of engineering" it's faaaarrr from. Citing 0-60 doesn't matter as much as citing just how long it takes to drive that car normally, if you ever have to get on the expressway. You'll have an intense experience, since it feels like the car is about to fall apart at any moment while you drive it at those speeds. Now if you drive in the city, then that's no problem, good for you. Too bad it's not advertised like that, a car that's just good for city only driving.

Then the obvious case of how it had to be recalled after Toyota ignored multiple warnings from owners, mechanics, and even some safety commissions. The car would have remained on the road too, had it not been for that entire family that was killed because of their recklessness with the tech behind that car. Most people think that's some sort of one off incident and it's all resolved, but the newer ones suffer from brake failure and multiple brake issues. It's ridiculous, but people still buy it because it's become THE "green" car.

Now though, at least you have options. The Volt, even though GM lied out of it's corporate butt about, is a great alternative and a more actual green car than any Prius.
More to it than that, but that's the main stuff in response to what you said.. so.. End rant.
2011-02-04 22:24:00

Author:
KoingWolf
Posts: 386


It's not the car's fault.
It's all these celebrities buying them for the sole reason to boost their reputation.

"Let's take a drive down to park in my prius. Then we'll go for a walk with the dogs, and return to our prius and take the prius to the nearest vegetarian restaurant."

It's the people trying too hard to show they are doing good. The car's fine.
2011-02-04 22:32:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758


its rather slow in gt5 compared to other cars of similar type, playstation...... Gran turismo.....

that is so true!
2011-02-04 23:38:00

Author:
OriginalCreator
Posts: 217


The Prius makes the people driving them feel better about themselves. lol 2011-02-05 01:30:00

Author:
TheCountessZ
Posts: 537


I was kind enough to not post this in the other thread, but I feel this deserves to be seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3UWq_T7vtM

It's for the sake of comedic value. I think the Prius looks nice, but otherwise I've no ground in this debate.
2011-02-05 01:34:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046


People dislike the Prius for a variety of reasons, such as the fact that they can't afford it; it is something that a lot of other people like that they are either unable or unwilling to obtain, so they simply wish it did not exist. I don't see anything particularly wrong with the car.
However, I think that we should have had a commercially viable, quick-charging, plug-in all-electric vehicle by now; when Toyota does that, I'll be impressed.

However, many people here have hit upon my main criticism of the car: it's drivers. In fact, most people do not buy that car to save the planet; they buy it so they can look like they are saving the planet. It's the perfect car for urban hipsters: they can look like they are doing something useful without having to do all of that really hard stuff like recycle or save water. The Toyota Poser would be a more fitting name for the vehicle. There is nothing wrong with the car, just some of the people who drive it, so don't think I'm bashing the Prius.

(Note: If you are an urban hipster as I have described, and I've offended you... just put on your fedora, grab that iPad (after it charges), and hop in your Prius (after it charges) and drive on down to any of the thirty Starbucks in your town and get over it over a "Frappuccino".)

(Another Note: Just kidding.)
2011-02-05 02:18:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276


The Prius is like Prozac on wheels! 2011-02-05 02:19:00

Author:
TheCountessZ
Posts: 537


Hey, where exactly is that level, anyway? Didn't comphermc publish it? I can't find it...2011-02-05 02:28:00

Author:
Stoicrow
Posts: 276


It's published under the creator name of LittleBigPartner. Also it's in MM picks. I should have just told you that first it's easier.2011-02-05 02:43:00

Author:
Kitkasumass
Posts: 494


The Prius hates children. Nuff said.2011-02-05 08:43:00

Author:
oNinjaFisho
Posts: 67


The voice of the people who hates is always louder than the one of the people who loves.2011-02-05 08:56:00

Author:
OmegaSlayer
Posts: 5112


The thing about the Prius is that it's only economical IF you drive it economically. Read KoigWolf's post for the rest of the hypocrisy of Toyota.

A good reason as to why I don't like the prius though is because I like fast, fun, passionate cars. It seems like that is a bad thing now a days?

The starting price for a prius is around ?15,000. For that kind of money, I'd much rather this Toyota. http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2445559.htm
2011-02-05 09:04:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


the problem i see with prius (aswell as what koingwolf said and rabid-coot ) is that it is a hybrid, when toyota could make a fully functional fully electric car and cut down completely on the carbon emissions (when in use) for similar costs. all this talk of a new eco friendly car when really its just a half hearted attempt at looking eco.2011-02-05 17:56:00

Author:
Skalio-
Posts: 920


Well, I definitely won't buy a prius. This in game advertising is disappointing. Irritating. Infuriating. Actually, it's sickening. That's my beef with the prius, and I'm stubborn like that, so toyota: that's one less car for you to sell.2011-02-06 19:10:00

Author:
Pookachoo
Posts: 838


But other than all the things you've mentioned it's a good car. I like hybrids.

It's one of the best if you took away the faults in it....
2011-02-07 07:48:00

Author:
mutant_red_peas
Posts: 516


I have a policy of boycotting companies who engage in "Annoying" advertising - and one of the most annoying advertising possible is product placement. So I will reconsider buying anything Toyota branded from now on.

While the Prius level itself isn't to bad for shoving the brand in your face - it is still the thin end of the wedge that allows corporate advertising to run riot in LBP.

I admire and respect Compher as a creator - he is one of the foundation pillars of the community.
But I don't think he himself would have made an "I Love Prius" level, if not for the fact he was being sponsored. I would much prefer for him to be making content that "he" wants to make - rather than content "Toyota" wants him to make.

This to me goes against the very ethos of LBP - you shouldn't be creating content because some corporation asked/paid you to - you should be creating content because you love it and want to share it.

As for the Prius itself - the half that runs on electricity will still be electricity generated from fossil/nuclear fuel - so it's "green" claims are totally bogus.
fewer emmisions yes... but do they count the ommissions from the local power plant that provides the electricity aswell?

Plus, the cost to the environment of a new production line of cars outweighs any "benefit" to the environment... we would be "greener" by fixing up existing motors and giving them extra lifespan... instead of scrapping them.
2011-02-07 11:26:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


In my opinion if you truly wanted to 'save the planet' so much as to buy a new car (other than say, just driving economically...) then get a bike.

Yeah, not a fan of the prius either
2011-02-08 20:52:00

Author:
Unknown User


But really, didn't you see all the coverage about the brakes not working?
Thats the whole reason that Toyota went on this "It's Eco-friendly and safety is our number 1 priority!" campaign,

Actually, Toyota had the reputation of producing very safe cars before that.
2011-02-09 08:43:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Yeah, what Syroc said.

YES, it's not entirely safe. But some people's lives (mine ) are about risks.
YES, they lied about it being eco-friendly as it uses some things that the Earth is running outof.

And many other things.

So let's leave this discussion here, folks. We all have an idea of a conclusion from what we hve here already.

Case closed.
2011-02-09 21:15:00

Author:
mutant_red_peas
Posts: 516


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