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P4p?!?!?!?!?!?

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So i was looking around lbp2 and god dam people are already getting desperate, not only there asking for hearts but there asking for people to play there level and they will play theirs. Yipes just yipes.2011-02-04 04:13:00

Author:
wait wtf
Posts: 853


Sadly, P4P is the new H4H.

They are both evil in my opinion.
2011-02-04 04:26:00

Author:
VelcroJonze
Posts: 1305


sad days sad days sad days2011-02-04 05:08:00

Author:
wait wtf
Posts: 853


yeah I've seen this it makes me sad inside. some guy went to my page and posted, "heart me I need your hearts." I looked at his profile he has 200 summin hearts and hes asking me and I think I only got 40, I face palmed and laughed at the same time lol.2011-02-04 05:08:00

Author:
Ghost
Posts: 114


Very sad that people have started to beg to get plays. :/2011-02-04 05:12:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


at least Mm tried to stop this by not making any heart related trophies, buuut, ofcourse, pins came into play. Oh well, I guess your always going to find one sour apple in the patch.
also:


yeah I've seen this it makes me sad inside. some guy went to my page and posted, "heart me I need your hearts." I looked at his profile he has 200 summin hearts and hes asking me and I think I only got 40, I face palmed and laughed at the same time lol.

Check how many hearted players he has, if he has 200 we're going to need a facepalm of epic proportions.
2011-02-04 05:12:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


at least Mm tried to stop this by not making any heart related trophies, buuut, ofcourse, pins came into play. Oh well, I guess your always going to find one sour apple in the patch.
also:



Check how many hearted players he has, if he has 200 we're going to need a facepalm of epic proportions.
He has 11 hearted people lol, But as I was looking at his hearted he has one person Xx_The_Killer_10 has 3,381 hearts and zero levels published. I don't get it?
2011-02-04 05:22:00

Author:
Ghost
Posts: 114


He has 11 hearted people lol, But as I was looking at his hearted he has one person Xx_The_Killer_10 has 3,381 hearts and zero levels published. I don't get it?

It's popular to spam upload pictures to the story levels and popular levels (Mm Picks) and people heart them for doing that. Also Xx_The_Killer_10 spammed levels to the cool pages in LBP1 and spam uploaded pics. I have no idea why people heart them.
2011-02-04 05:26:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


It's popular to spam upload pictures to the story levels and popular levels (Mm Picks) and people heart them for doing that. Also Xx_The_Killer_10 spammed levels to the cool pages in LBP1 and spam uploaded pics. I have no idea why people heart them.

Yeah I thought it was summin like that when I looked at his profile thats all I saw was photos of himself like crazy. It's really funny now LBP in game is different from LBPC the forum site lol.
2011-02-04 05:30:00

Author:
Ghost
Posts: 114


He has 11 hearted people lol, But as I was looking at his hearted he has one person Xx_The_Killer_10 has 3,381 hearts and zero levels published. I don't get it?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3131/2313356652_f2b27826c4.jpg
2011-02-04 05:37:00

Author:
Merc
Posts: 2135


Well the P4P is lame, but it at least involves people playing the game unlike hearts, where you have a guy that posts all day to Heart him, but never plays any levels. I have also noticed people posting on the F4F levels that they will que your level, and if you will play theirs..those seem exactly like P4P to me.2011-02-04 07:51:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822


To be honest with you, I'm absolutely fine with P4P. People want their game played, which is fair enough, and if it's bad it will get overwhelmingly negative feedback and no one else will play it.

It's not too much different from F4F if you look at it in a certain way.

But to join in with the mob: kill them, kill them all. *goes to collect the old H4H hunting gear*
2011-02-04 07:54:00

Author:
JonnysToyRobot
Posts: 324


you guys worry too much.2011-02-04 08:32:00

Author:
PPp_Killer
Posts: 449


I agree with you guys on the most of the things that were said. But at the same time, I do see why people will ask for plays sometimes. I published a level 2 days ago that I spent hours creating and that I think is pretty good. It has a unique level design, obstacles, and even a boss battle at the end. Yet, NO ONE HAS EVER PLAYED IT. How is it ever suppose to be noticed or recognized now unless I tell people about it? I understand there are a LOT of crappy levels out there, but with millions of levels publish, it just stinks when some of the good ones never even get played. (I understand my level isn't fantastic or amazing or breath-taking, but it at least deserves some plays....)2011-02-04 12:57:00

Author:
Unknown User


Exactly. That's the hardest part. Maybe some people create for the individual satisfication of creation, but people generally want their creativity to be a part of something and be shared. Hell, that's the whole point of play, create, share. But with soooo much content, craetions get overlooked. Trading plays for plays, or feedback for feedback, is perfectly valid IMO, unlike H4H which is trading an irrelevant measure of worth - may as well pay people to become Facebook fans if you're a H4H person. Those plays don't necessarily mean a level will get undue attention, as people will still rate a turkey a turkey. What it does mean, P4P, is that at least some people will see your level (you hope), and then if it's good, it'll get ratings and hopefully recognition. If there is no P4P opportunity at all whatsoever, someone could sink hundreds of hours into creating the greatest level of all time, have it played by 5 random people who like it and heart it, and have it disappear to never be played again. Some of the best levels I found on LBP weren't particularly popular, and IMO the creators didn't get the recognition they deserved. But that is true of all arts, with struggling artists in every field. An LBP creator wanting to get recognition is no different to an indie movie creator, or an unpublished author, or an unknown musician, truggling to get noticed.

In that respect, P4P is something of a support group where you're no longer completely isolated. How can that be a bad thing, any more than posts on this forum asking for people to check out one's latest, greatest creation?

Edit : Crazydave : Link to your level and I promise I'll play it!
2011-02-04 14:21:00

Author:
Shifty Geezer
Posts: 131


I don't mind P4P. It's alot nicer than H4H imo.2011-02-04 15:23:00

Author:
Retro
Posts: 104


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Author:
Jovuto
Posts: 2345


Same as ppp said..... you guys worry too much don't forget that LBP2 is user generated content game, not high-class licensed game platform (and all know that even that won't help for crap games), it's gonna have levels as that by default. You can see the same on iPhone where it's easy to get your app up, at beginning there was ton of useless toy apps, some even for .99$ after some of developer that earn lot of money from AppStore on a cheap game

Look on cool pages: http://lbp.me/search?t=cool i don't see any P4P
2011-02-04 15:48:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


It is very true that it is nothing close to as annoying a H4H in the fact ot is closer to the game spirit... but it has the level of abuse where a person may just load a level and quit and goto the next one. The part that bugs me is the fact of tact, if someone plays my level, gives me feedback and asks me to play theirs, I do it instantly, but when they say P4P it seems more like a demand, and like the F4F ones that say they will check out yours later, can you go give them feedback now...I just get this vibe they could care less about your level (and in experience they usually don't care, they just play the first few seconds of your level and give feedback on that). So my point is P4P is not bad in the idea, but in the spamming and delivery it is, just be polite play a level, leave feedback, then many times you will get cross plays on your levels. Heck I found that you even can get many of your levels played if you just thank players that score good on your levels, by playing theirs and posting a thank you on their level.

That being said I am the guy that resorted to adding "pleaseeee" and posting in the help thread to get his level F4Fed after the F4F threads I replied to never paid off...and doing that only paid off in spade (not spades if you get my drift).
2011-02-04 15:52:00

Author:
celsus
Posts: 822


You understood me perfectly Shifty Geezer. My level is Castle Island and my psn is Dharma45. Its just frustrating to put so much time and effort into a level and not a single person ever notice. But at the same time, P4P shouldn't be turned into spam or begging like some people do...2011-02-04 21:23:00

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Unknown User


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