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I am sick of Movies

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There I said it.

I really do not like all those stupid movie levels people post. LBP2 is a game which means it is meant to be played. If I wanted to watch a film I would do just that. Oh I am all for using the movie camera for small cutscenes to enhance the story of your game / level I just don't like it when all it is is a movi. Unfortunately a lot of the levels are these movies.

I have a feeling that they will become as annoying popular as Bomb / Shark survival
2011-01-29 04:07:00

Author:
cthulhu82
Posts: 211


actually, since you CAN make moviess, and MM encourages it, I'm sure that LBP2 isn't JUST made to be played. if you don't like them, then quit them or just don't play it (since most of them say they are a movie to begin with)2011-01-29 04:10:00

Author:
Bernkastel
Posts: 127


I agree with both of you. I do think the movies are a bit annoying and with that said, I just don't go on those levels.2011-01-29 04:17:00

Author:
LEXMARK295
Posts: 66


Yea, if you don't like it, don't play it. There are a whole plethora of options available in LBP2, so just ignore the ones you don't like, and move on to play the ones you do. Just the concept of being capable of making anything is enough encouragement towards literally making anything, just pick around what you don't like, similar to food I love everything! It's just a matter of opinion, so just like making a thread on how you hate movies and people should not make them as frequently is similar to saying that I hate purple (I don't) and any purple object should be void of color. Variety is the spice of life!2011-01-29 04:19:00

Author:
Super_Clone
Posts: 849


Ya I also get that MM does encourage the use of it. I am just worried that just as LBP1 became 99% Bomb / Shark survival levels, LBP2 will become 99% movie based.2011-01-29 04:20:00

Author:
cthulhu82
Posts: 211


I'm not sure that it was 99 percent Even if it was, the 1 percent that wasn't was fantastic!2011-01-29 04:23:00

Author:
Super_Clone
Posts: 849


I don't really like em either. Sure you can say whatever you want. They made a funny movie, they really used the camera tools well. But whatever. Look at the backgrounds. Look at the stuff around. It's all cheaply thrown together. One of them that i saw was just the city building material for a background. I think if you are going to make a movie, make a good one. Or else it will catch on. They get so many hearts and plays and probably didn't spend very long to record a sackbot running or walking. I could see many people saying "hey i could do that". But I also agree that you should just stay away if you don't like them.2011-01-29 04:24:00

Author:
Kitkasumass
Posts: 494


It's just one of the genres the game is proposing. Your solution is super easy: don't play them.2011-01-29 04:28:00

Author:
RangerZero
Posts: 3901


If they are made well, a movie is one of the most impressive things you can make on the game at this time. However, with some of the lackluster videos we have out there, I would see how many lbpers would be sick of them already!2011-01-29 04:28:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


I'm not sure that it was 99 percent Even if it was, the 1 percent that wasn't was fantastic!

It felt like 99% but yeah thank heaven for the 1% that saved the game

Now to be clear I just don't like any of the movies that have been released so far for reasons that kitkasumass has pointed out. I will be the first to heart any creator who uses all the tools to make an absolutely amazingly awesome animation using LBP2 and actually tells a decent story even if it takes multiple parts to watch the whole thing.
2011-01-29 04:30:00

Author:
cthulhu82
Posts: 211


Well i can say the same about levels ;] most are not well made too and keep in mind that this is user-generated content game, not licensed game platform, ofcorse lot of stuff will sux

Movies are part of LBP2 same as other levels, there even level mode for doing them and tags and they are also marked, not to mention it's adrvitized feature. Maybe instead of complaining about them, better will be suggestion to add filter for them.
2011-01-29 05:43:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


If only someone made a blog about how to use film making in a LBP environment....

OK, I thought I could be shameless, but I'm starting to feel it coming on...
2011-01-29 06:23:00

Author:
shebhnt
Posts: 414


I just don't like the cheap ones that are on the cool pages... I actually haven't seen a good one yet though. 2011-01-29 07:32:00

Author:
morris6267
Posts: 144


I wouldn't dis all movies, because there are those out there that will throw a movie together.

I am currently making a music video and I am putting a lot of work into it. I don't want you to pass it up because of the junk that will always be out there.

There are tons of crappy platforming levels out there too, but do you stop playing platforming levels because of it?
2011-01-29 09:05:00

Author:
Yofig
Posts: 288


I do like Movies...

Its just sad I've yet to see a good one? :/
2011-01-29 09:08:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


Yeah, just don't play them if you don't like them!

You can even get them out of your sight completely by taking them off your filter by pressing Triangle and de-selecting the 'Movie' option while browsing levels.
2011-01-29 09:48:00

Author:
Plasmavore
Posts: 1913


I'm sure within the next 6 months we'll start seeing some movies that are actually worth watching. There were one or two well done ones in the beta... and though very simple, they were well worth watching (Mammoth Hunt, and Oh Love(?) come to mind). Films like those were just a taste of what's possible and of what's to come in the future. Think of Johnee's trailer for his level (which is part of what led to him being hired by Mm)... it was really well done. Now imagaine that movie if he had the tools we have now and how much better it would have been. Now that we have actual movie camera's we can use (albeit, certain functions still buggy and a few transition functions leaving something to be desired), films will only start getting better.

The biggest problem with films is that most people don't have good voice acting skills and don't pre-plan their shots effectively. I predict that once the community start seeing good films, they will take mental notes of what works and what doesn't and why, and start trying to emulate those elements. As stated, many levels out there are poor quality as well. It's the nature of the beast that is LBP. I can tell within about 10 seconds of viewing a movie if it's going to be decent or not, just by a few key factors. Most movies are not good... true. Movies will get better in the future... also true. Like anything, people need to put the effort in to make something decent... dis iz da most truest trueness of all de truths.
2011-01-29 13:11:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


I'm not too fond that most of the levels are Vs ones, but just wait. Eventually the good creators will have made and published their good levels, then we'll start to see an improvment.2011-01-29 13:51:00

Author:
kirbyman62
Posts: 1893


i agree with rustbukkit totally.
apart from the lucky few beta testers nobody has had access to cameras and sackbots and the new tools, so give it a while before complainnig about how the community is overrun with rubbish - we just need to find our feet thats all.
Think about all the story mode movies - they are very well made with high quality audio and VERY well made props and scenery these are what top level movies can look like.
going back to what rust said - dajdaj03 and ladylyn1 really impressed me with their movies in the beta, since both creators used all the techniques at their disposal plus managed to tell stories. Other people who want to tell stories through LBP will pick up on this, and im sure in time the movies section of LBP2 will make Mm very proud.
2011-01-29 18:26:00

Author:
Skalio-
Posts: 920


You dislike those levels, but I dislike of people that think they're the center of the universe and just because they dislike or have a problem with one thing, EVERYONE should agree and comply to his demands and make everything just to please them.
Yet we both know those things won't stop happening just because we dislike them, now don't we?

There's thousands of people on LBP2 at the same time, there are thousand of platformers, movies, and other genres being made, you're only noticing movies more because...well, they're there, but you csa notice movies don't outnumber other levels at all anyways.
2011-01-29 21:10:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


lool
leon maybe that was a bit harsh, but.... i do agree completely
people shouldnt get angry at the community when there is such an easy way to avoid getting angry in the first place
2011-01-29 21:34:00

Author:
Skalio-
Posts: 920


Well, I just got this the other day so I haven't had too much time (read: none) to mess around with the tools but just seeing the cutscenes in the story mode has made me very interested.

Here is the number one thing any film maker needs to know (especially if you are starting out), if you can't tell the story without words, you don't have a story to tell.

Any person who is seriously interested in this needs to work first on being able to tell a story visually before they start messing with voice overs because, unless you have some actors for friends, the voice overs will always be the weakest part. I remember in college realizing that and then went on to make some of the best films I made and none of them had dialogue. I only had dialogue if I had actors come in.

That ramble was just to say this, unless the voices are not suppose to be good, try to make your movies without them at first. (And if you don't mind a shameless plug, I would suggest looking at my film maker blog posts for some helpful info on how to do some basic movie making).
2011-01-29 22:14:00

Author:
shebhnt
Posts: 414


Im currently making a movie, it will be worth checking out as it will most likely be very good 2011-01-29 22:31:00

Author:
Alternative_sack
Posts: 409


In my opinion: if you didn't spend a ton of time on it, have something different to offer, aren't proud as a new papa, etc. then why bother! Do you want to be know as the sack who slaps pictures up and ends a level? A Dodo Bird could do that!2011-01-29 22:43:00

Author:
adalond
Posts: 84


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3d8F_M-ytU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7QBvBCm0zo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gx-vEn9H-k&feature=related

also, Teebs said he was gonna make movies in lbp2.

You calling that junk on cool pages movies is like calling h4h and bomb survivals, levels.
2011-01-29 22:58:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


LittleBigPlanet 2 isnt just about platfroming levels. With LBP 2 we can create many things, and movies show that. Movies arnt bad, they are our creations, they are what the community makes. I mean if you think about it, LBP 2 isnt just about platforming. As the tagline suggests: "A platform game? A platform for games!"

Dont critisize films becouse they are different. There are a lot of decent films out there.
2011-01-29 23:00:00

Author:
Unknown User


I think films will eventually be produced with more polish than most of the levels. When you sit down to watch a film on lbp you see exactly what the creator intended you to see... Levels will be played different by everyone and there is so much scope for error that it will be very rare for someone to play it as the creator originally intended. Films are a perfectionists dream... you have complete control over the experience and the more time and effort you put in the more polished the final result will be! You would be a lunatic to disregard films at this early stage, especially as the game has only been out a week.

Here is my favourite film from the beta:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcHQBH4aafg


and my best attempt (imo):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCDd2KItskQ


I haven't seen any of the lbp2 films yet (as i don't have the game) but I can tell you that my film took a couple of days to create... I would never feel happy publishing that in the real game but its a bit of fun in the beta
2011-01-30 00:14:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836


I agree... partially.

I would love to play many good movie levels. I already have played a few good ones! Sadly most are rubbish and cause me to have explosive vomiting.
2011-01-30 00:54:00

Author:
tomodon246
Posts: 624


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