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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Grt9mdSeZw

Dead Birds Fall From Sky In Sweden, Millions Of Dead Fish Found In Maryland, Brazil, New Zealand
This is unreal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/dead-birds-fall-from-sky-_n_804591.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nBhYN738YU&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkIo7oL-gfo&feature=related		2011-01-05 22:10:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

This is crazy! And the same species to?

I'm seriously freaking out.

2011-01-05 22:35:00

Author:
Frinklebumper
Posts: 941

This is crazy! And the same species to?

I'm seriously freaking out.



As far as I know, There are multiple species of birds that have literally dropped out of the skies. The fish I believe were a species known as "Drum" , and if you are familiar with Red fish then you've seen them before.

EDIT: Multiple species of fish, not just "Drum"

Seems the Chinese and Mayans got the year wrong.

What if this is just the beginning? I'm a skeptic when it comes to doomsday theories, but there is something to this, that much I do know.		2011-01-05 22:43:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

This is very odd, i mean... i'm not a doomsday nut, but this is looking pretty bad...

Odd weather, EVERYWHERE.
Birds dropping fron the skies, tons of fish suddenly dead.
And here where i live, a ton of animals have been going nuts.

There was like 40 dogs all howling a few days ago.
My dog did it too.		2011-01-05 22:47:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

OH GOD! you know they read the Mayan calender wrong right 2012 wont happen.2011-01-05 22:52:00

Author:
Lgjoka2002
Posts: 538

OH GOD! you know they read the Mayan calender wrong right 2012 wont happen.

And just how do you know that? are you an expert on Mayan architecture? Because that's the only way you would know that.		2011-01-05 22:55:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

Meh its the fish have probably been poisoned and the birds have been eating fish. There will be a logical explanation to it. If it had happened 10 years ago people wouldn't go crazy, its just coincidental that this kind of thing has happened in 2011.2011-01-05 22:58:00

Author:
robotiod
Posts: 2662

Meh its the fish have probably been poisoned and the birds have been eating fish. There will be a logical explanation to it. If it had happened 10 years ago people wouldn't go crazy, its just coincidental that this kind of thing has happened in 2011.

I am so going to laugh when this turns into something huge and you're wrong, and besides they already tested the fish and birds, they didn't die of poision		2011-01-05 23:03:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

And just how do you know that? are you an expert on Mayan architecture? Because that's the only way you would know that.

I am so going to laugh when this turns into something huge and you're wrong, and besides they already tested the fish and birds, they didn't die of poision


Come on Josh, either add to the topic or don't. Please don't Troll just for the sake of Trolling, it just doesn't suit you kk?		2011-01-05 23:04:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

I am not trolling.
I am simply having a conversation about this.
Honestly i do believe the end is in 2012.
And i laugh at people who say that they read the calendar wrong because they don't know that.		2011-01-05 23:07:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

This has happened before.

They're called 'skyfalls', perfectly documented in certain cases and always very strange.

I read on a site about a traffic cone skyfall and another about pennies and half pennies. Whether those are true or not I'm not sure.

Skyfalls are a cool topic.		2011-01-05 23:14:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251

I agree, but they don't know how it happened, if it was skyfalls, they would have already made that conclusion, right?
I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense.		2011-01-05 23:17:00

Author:
Joshofsouls
Posts: 1569

http://io9.com/5725175/why-are-thousands-of-dead-birds-suddenly-falling-from-the-sky?skyline=true&s=i


I am not trolling.
I am simply having a conversation about this.
Honestly i do believe the end is in 2012.
And i laugh at people who say that they read the calendar wrong because they don't know that.

http://www.abhota.info/end6.htm

End of the world predictions are a surprisingly regular occurance and they just keep passing by with nothing happening.		2011-01-05 23:20:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

This is pretty weird, but I honestly do not believe in 2012...Something strange happens, and then everybody suddenly thinks it's the end of the world. Jeez.2011-01-05 23:22:00

Author:
TheZimInvader
Posts: 3149

http://io9.com/5725175/why-are-thousands-of-dead-birds-suddenly-falling-from-the-sky?skyline=true&s=i



http://www.abhota.info/end6.htm

End of the world predictions are a surprisingly regular occurance and they just keep passing by with nothing happening.

I agree this is probably NOT a sign of the Apocalypse, but those articles you linked are not concrete evidence of perfectly natural events but rather speculation which is all anybody can do right now. Also the fish kill theory is out because I read in other articles that it is NOT a localized event but world/species wide.		2011-01-05 23:28:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

I just, I don't know how to put this in an un rude way or whatever but,

srsly? leik, srsly?

Because birds and fishes die it means it's the end of the world?		2011-01-06 00:29:00

Author:
Unknown User

I have reason to believe that the death of the birds may be linked to the murder of John P. Wheeler as evidenced in this article: http://current.com/news/92902534_murder-of-john-p-wheeler-connected-to-mass-bird-deaths.htm

Although, some of the information given in the other news links contradicts this theory.		2011-01-06 00:32:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357

I pick up birds off the street all the time, whats the big deal?2011-01-06 00:44:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477

I'm not naming anybody but those people who almost hope things like this are the end of the world must have a pretty unhappy existance.2011-01-06 00:52:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637

End of the world or not, I'm going to carry on as normal anyway. Because then, when the end of the world does come, I can tell myself I've accomplished something worthwhile and had a fun life, rather than staying inside and building an underground panic room (Just in case).

My opinion - but in terms of the theory that they covered up someone's murder by killing these animals or whatever it says -
a) First of all, if somebody can do something like THAT, do you really want to be posting about it on the internet?
b) Killing someone is bad - but surely destroying nature is even worse? Anyway, that would only account for some of the mysterious occurances. The truth is - sometimes, these things happen. People create theories and, because the cause is mostly unknown, they can fit it to mean whatever they want. Doesn't mean it's true - but, believe what you want to believe. We all have our opinions!

2011-01-06 00:54:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113

I'm not naming anybody but those people who almost hope things like this are the end of the world must have a pretty unhappy existance.

I would't particularly say they were unhappy, more confused and uncertain.

If I told you that tomorrow, you will come across something life threatening, your natural response is to take notice. Even though I have no proof, I might have a one in a million chance of being right. Same thing applies here. People will always look out for themselves, and when the whole world's at stake, that multiplies by around 6 billion.

The people who believe in apocalyptic prophecies don't necessarily hope for them to happen, they are just the ones who listen and believe what they are being told. Remember the millennium bug? Whole nations were preparing to get sent back to the dark ages and when the big day finally came.....nothing. Now im not saying that 2012 is going to be the end of the world, but what I am saying is that it certainly wont be the last "End Of The World" theory. People love a good scare, especially when it might become a reality. The brainless Hollywood blockbusters don't help either.

Lets just see what else they come up with after 2012 and watch them repeat the same thing again and again.		2011-01-06 01:07:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477

I am so going to laugh when this turns into something huge and you're wrong, and besides they already tested the fish and birds, they didn't die of poision

I am so going to laugh when this turns out to be nothing at all and I'm sipping champagne on January of 2013.		2011-01-06 01:25:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Couple of years from now and there will be a world-wide blackout. 2011-01-06 01:31:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

And Twinkies will expire :kz:2011-01-06 01:57:00

Author:
Unknown User

This 2012 thing is getting pretty ridonculous IMO.

Also, I really hate when I'm walking around just laxin' and hundreds of birds start falling on me. :/		2011-01-06 02:02:00

Author:
iGotFancyPants
Posts: 1355

And Twinkies will expire :kz:

batasha! :		2011-01-06 02:50:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

Couple of years from now and there will be a world-wide blackout.

Lol I think we had the same line of thought there.
Flashfoward?		2011-01-06 03:58:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113

Lol I think we had the same line of thought there.
Flashfoward?
Mhm!

"There's going to be another blackout." DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN.		2011-01-06 06:03:00

Author:
Kog
Posts: 2358

OMG CREEEEPY!! Wat coulda killed all the birds like that!!?? They said determined cause of death was trauma to the body? Maybe after they fell outa the freakin sky right? I dont think its an omen of 2012........ I mean stranger things HAVE happened. If an event like this starts happening worldwide then yea were all doomed =D2011-01-06 10:01:00

Author:
K3NDRAKRAY
Posts: 61

Dead birds fallin' from the sky, epic.

Anyways to all of you arguing about 2012, no-one knew/cared about 2012 before the movie 2012, so why give a **** now? :/		2011-01-06 13:51:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

http://www.thelocal.se/31278/20110106/

Sweden can has mass bird death too.

Well it's just a few hundred, but we like to take it easy.		2011-01-06 17:58:00

Author:
ll_ye
Posts: 236

You're all pretty silly and paranoid. Strange occurrences happen all of the time and just because it's NEAR a supposed doomsday year means absolutely horse.

My toaster and my neighbour's toaster stopped working yesterday. Are the bread-vans going to kill us all now?		2011-01-06 18:13:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758

You're all pretty silly and paranoid. Strange occurrences happen all of the time and just because it's NEAR a supposed doomsday year means absolutely horse.

My toaster and my neighbour's toaster stopped working yesterday. Are the bread-vans going to kill us all now?

Didn't you know? Toaster failure is the last sign of the Bread-ocalypse!

Suggestions for survival:
1. Burn all nearby bread.
2. Stay away from any suspicious wheat.
3. Find a room with a door that touches the floor. (So they can't slide under)
4. Stack up on jelly/jam.
5. Don't trust whole-grain, they fight dirty.
6. Find a radio so you can find other survivors and maybe hide out together on a rooftop with dual pistols and shotguns instead of guns that could actually save you. Why? Because it looks cool.
7. After all that.. Find a butter knife and prepared to slice for your life.

Good luck my friend.		2011-01-06 19:28:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800

My toaster and my neighbour's toaster stopped working yesterday. Are the bread-vans going to kill us all now?

I don't want to scare you or anything, but it's possible...		2011-01-06 19:29:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113

That is so sad, all those dead birds lying on the ground... Awful. They say they'll be carrying out tests, I'm sure those prophecies about 2012 have nothing to do with that's going on, but it's still terrible :/2011-01-06 20:00:00

Author:
Oddmania
Posts: 1305

i can't handle this kind of stuff, man2011-01-06 20:20:00

Author:
Unknown User

Dead birds fallin' from the sky, epic.

Anyways to all of you arguing about 2012, no-one knew/cared about 2012 before the movie 2012, so why give a **** now? :/

lol, I think you need to go out a little more, dude. 		2011-01-06 20:36:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707

I am with what Oddmania said, it may have nothing to do with the end of the world, but its still an awful thing to happen. I wonder what caused it?. I hope they find out. 2011-01-06 20:41:00

Author:
PygmyOwl
Posts: 1316

OK so its not an isolated event. I guess stuff like this happens naturally but never so many occurances in such a short period of time o_O

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/dead-birds-and-dead-fish-and-dead-crabs-total-13-global-events-so-far


http://gothamist.com/2011/01/06/doomsday_update_dead_doves_birds_cr.php		2011-01-06 21:31:00

Author:
K3NDRAKRAY
Posts: 61

This is not a new phenomenon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raining_animals), there have been reports of these kind of events for centuries.

Have none of you seen the 1999 film "Magnolia (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0175880/)", where in the penultimate scene it starts raining frogs?

Remember how they thought the world was going to end in the year 2000?! - and all of the times before then that they thought the world was going to end? - The idea of "The Armageddon" has been around for millenia, and every generation has gullible fools who believe that it's going to happen on their watch.

Of course, it will happen eventually, but no-one will be able to predict when or how - so why bother yourself worrying about it... look outside, is it raining dead birds right now? No?,
I think we'll all live to see 2013... if I'm wrong you can have your money back
(If I'm right you all owe me ?1)

Seriously?! 2011 and people still believe in "Auspicium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augury)"?!!?!		2011-01-06 22:05:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

OK so its not an isolated event. I guess stuff like this happens naturally but never so many occurances in such a short period of time o_O

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-hartford/dead-birds-and-dead-fish-and-dead-crabs-total-13-global-events-so-far


http://gothamist.com/2011/01/06/doomsday_update_dead_doves_birds_cr.php

Yeah sounds like these happen quite frequently.


Mass bird deaths aren't uncommon. The U.S. Geological Service's website listed about 90 mass deaths of birds and other wildlife from June through Dec. 12.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40921795/ns/us_news-environment

Once you get a news day slow enough for one to get some recognition the global 24 rolling news coverage tends to over do it a bit.		2011-01-06 22:07:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

lol, I think you need to go out a little more, dude.

Why? Didn't you read bremnen's post about the Bread-ocalypse? 		2011-01-07 00:48:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871

I have a Large window that is hit by birds flying into it constantly. You would be surprised how hard these birds hit it head on and fly off. My point is it takes a lot for a bird to die from blunt force trauma from what I've seen.2011-01-07 01:19:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

Happened here in NC, USA... similar species of birds... but they said it was probably due to drastic weather changes in the upper atmosphere, but we all know only 70% of what the media broadcasts is actually the truth.2011-01-07 07:13:00

Author:
Unknown User

Well, la nina is coming around (El Nino, but reversed.).
This is going to kill alot of animals living near or in the sea because of the drastic changes. It might even result in such sudden changes in pressure that it might kill those birds.

Here is the regional impacts if La Nina, IE, the places where it is directly noticeable.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/La_Nina_regional_impacts.gif

now compare this image to this.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201817256339889828327.0004991bca25af104a22b

While not entirely accurate, doesn't it make some sense atleast?		2011-01-07 07:57:00

Author:
ll_ye
Posts: 236

I hope armageddon is alot more exciting than species just spontaneously dying.
Seriously wheres the fun in that?		2011-01-07 12:18:00

Author:
Alismuffin
Posts: 1328

there are woodcuttings from 1555 showing it raining fish... this is not a new phenomenon, and it's not that there is a "sudden spate" of mass animal deaths, this has been happening year on year since human records began. All we have is a larger human population than ever before (therefore able to observe more phenomenon than previously) spread across a larger surface area of the earth than ever before. Add into that the internet and the ready availabilty of communication technology and we have the abilty to report more of these occurances than ever before.

Plus, when commercial news-services get a story they have a vested interest in sexing it up, and reporting on more and similar stories.

All of this gives the impression of an "escalation" in mass animal deaths... when in fact, it's still just business as usual.		2011-01-07 12:53:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

I knew it! The birds do have a mass suicide pact!2011-01-07 16:50:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918

My toaster hasn't attacked me yet, so I think we're all going to be just fine. (Except for Hybrid...)2011-01-07 16:54:00

Author:
KQuinn94Z
Posts: 1758

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-wisconsin-lab-blackbird-die-off.html


The mystery of the deaths of thousands of blackbirds in Arkansas this month has been solved, federal scientists say.

They died of blunt-force trauma, according to the National Wildlife Health Center in Madison, Wis. Samples of the blackbirds and others from a separate mass die-off about the same time in Louisiana were brought to the little-known laboratory on Madison's west side for necropsies.

"They died of impact force to their bodies," said Scott Wright, chief of disease investigations at the center.

He said the birds clearly showed signs of bruises.

The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said tests for evidence of pesticide poisoning were negative.

At least 3,000 red-winged blackbirds died on New Year's Eve near Beebe, Ark. Fireworks probably sent them flying from their roosts.

The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said the agency began receiving reports of blackbirds falling from the sky around 11:30 p.m. on Dec. 31 in a one-square-mile area of Beebe.

The mass kill spawned speculation that their demise was caused by a chemical pollutant-a fear heightened by the arrival in Beebe of workers combing neighborhoods in hazmat suits. As the story spread, other theories included biblical apocalypse to proof of the presence of UFOs.

"It's believed that the noise startled them-they are poor night fliers-and they were in close proximity to neighborhoods, and they flew into homes and cars," Wright said.

A separate incident near Baton Rouge, La., involving about 450 blackbirds is still under investigation by the center, Wright said.

"I think the two events are a coincidence," Wright said.

Also unrelated, he said, is the death of more than 80,000 freshwater drum, and a few yellow bass, white bass and sauger in the Arkansas River reported on Jan. 3.

Wright said large-scale deaths of birds and other species are not uncommon.

For example, storms wreak havoc on bird populations. Birds are also vulnerable to chemical pollution and biological poisoning from natural toxins.

For the blackbird species alone, there have been 16 incidents in which 1,000 or more birds have died in single events in the past five years, he said.

The lab analyzes 300 to 500 large die-off events each year. The deaths involve all wildlife-cases in 2010 included the demise of 4,500 bats from a fungal infection known as white-nose syndrome in Bucks County, Pa., and deaths of 150 raccoons, striped skunks, coyotes and red fox in Los Angeles County.

The lab's website shows nine separate mortality events since December. Eight of those events involved bird species and one involved the gunshot deaths of dozens of Brazilian free-tailed bats near Pima, Ariz.

The National Wildlife Health Center also played a key role in the study of chronic wasting disease in Wisconsin's white-tailed deer population after an outbreak in February 2002.

"We don't know what we are going to get tomorrow, or the next day, but it will be something," Wright said.		2011-01-07 20:32:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

there are woodcuttings from 1555 showing it raining fish... this is not a new phenomenon, and it's not that there is a "sudden spate" of mass animal deaths, this has been happening year on year since human records began. All we have is a larger human population than ever before (therefore able to observe more phenomenon than previously) spread across a larger surface area of the earth than ever before. Add into that the internet and the ready availabilty of communication technology and we have the abilty to report more of these occurances than ever before.

Plus, when commercial news-services get a story they have a vested interest in sexing it up, and reporting on more and similar stories.

All of this gives the impression of an "escalation" in mass animal deaths... when in fact, it's still just business as usual.

I couldn't help but reply to this one. Those occurrences are more than likely caused by "water spouts" which are basically tornadoes on a body of water. If there is an answer for that phenomenon then there must one for the birds and fish all over the world suddenly dying. Is it the end of the world that is doing it? Probably not, but whatever it is, you have to admit even if you're trying to kid yourself... It's bizarre. So in closing ask yourself this, if it can happen to birds and fish that easily, can it happen to people? Don't be so sure.		2011-01-07 21:39:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

This is seriously creepy, seems like they need to be testing for disease more than anything. It reminds me of a book I read called andromeda strain. but in that it had to do with a virus that fell in a satallite from space and some town kids found it. opened the satallite and the whole town either went nuts or died. the virus then evolved to include birds, then so on and so forth. Idk if that this is like that but... you never know.2011-01-07 21:58:00

Author:
calyst_aayla
Posts: 217

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/mortality_events/ongoing.jsp Current mortality events.

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/quarterly_reports/index.jsp Mortality event archive back to 1995

Looks fairly consistant.		2011-01-07 22:12:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/mortality_events/ongoing.jsp Current mortality events.

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/quarterly_reports/index.jsp Mortality event archive back to 1995

Looks fairly consistant.

I know your scared Rabid-Coot /holds Rabid-Coot in a comforting embrace/ but it has never happened on this kind of scale before as far as I know. This time something is different about this seemingly natural occurrence.
/releases Rabid-Coot/		2011-01-07 22:23:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

I know your scared Rabid-Coot /holds Rabid-Coot in a comforting embrace/ but it has never happened on this kind of scale before as far as I know. This time something is different about this seemingly natural occurrence.
/releases Rabid-Coot/

It got my cousin.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/190/0/e/Dead_Moorhen__by_Etinogard.jpg

It might be me next.		2011-01-07 23:17:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I believe this is an outcome of the recent gulf oil spill, i dont think the oil magically dissappeared it must have become part of a current in the atlantic ocean,2011-01-07 23:38:00

Author:
Charlemagne
Posts: 513

It got my cousin.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/190/0/e/Dead_Moorhen__by_Etinogard.jpg

It might be me next.

Cross-eyed Cats have no relation to water fowl. I call shenanigans on you Sir.		2011-01-08 00:41:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

Cross-eyed Cats have no relation to water fowl. I call shenanigans on you Sir.

Coots and Moorhens are closely related. My username and avatar generally have no relation.		2011-01-08 00:51:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

Coots and Moorhens are closely related. My username and avatar generally have no relation.

Huh....so they are. Can a coot even get rabies?.....oh who cares! Yes, some birds died, and yes, some fishies died. No story here, it happens ALL the time. Next time you walk down the street watch out cause birds don't just poop on you, but heck they even fall from the sky mid-flight and land on your thick head.It happens all the time, didn't you know that?		2011-01-08 02:09:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

In NZ it was definately the heat. Omg is it baking here.....2011-01-08 03:26:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117

Huh....so they are. Can a coot even get rabies?

Birds can get rabies but most cases have been experimental. The actual Rabid Coot just had some very soggy bread in its mouth that made it look like it was frothing at the beak http://fav.me/dl3lf7		2011-01-08 11:01:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

and the mystery continues...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1344913/Animal-death-mystery-8k-turtle-doves-fall-dead-Italy-blue-stain-beaks.html		2011-01-08 19:01:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836

On average there are around 160 reported cases of mass animal death each year in America alone. Sometimes it's pollution, sometimes disease, sometimes it's never explained. These events are nothing out of the ordinary.

Any person whose first response is to shout "apocalypse" about this needs to stop listening to the conspiracy theorists and soap box preachers, give them selves a kick up the **** for being so dumb, and start thinking with a rational mind.		2011-01-08 19:26:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

I want every single person who has posted how this is a reoccurring event to go back and read the part of their counterpoint where it states " multiple times annually and in one location". O.K. done? Good. Here is my answer to your "counterpoint" in nice big letters with easy to understand words.


WHAT HAPPENS "NORMALLY" IN A YEAR AND IN A SINGLE LOCATION, IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE WORLD IN LESS THAN 2 WEEKS.


EDIT: I have been aware of my surroundings since as far as I can remember which is about 25 years. I have never (up until now) heard of an event happening like this happening on such a great scale. I will repeat what I have stated in my previous posts, that I don't believe this is a sign of the end. I will however say with 100% certainty that this is not a normal occurrence when you look at the big picture, and somewhere deep down inside your close minds you all do too.		2011-01-08 20:01:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

and to add to that most of the recorded mass deaths have specific factors behind them. Like an outbreak of disease, poisoning, parasites ect...2011-01-08 20:30:00

Author:
K3NDRAKRAY
Posts: 61

WHAT HAPPENS "NORMALLY" IN A YEAR AND IN A SINGLE LOCATION, IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE WORLD IN LESS THAN 2 WEEKS.

That means nothing. It's not even a quantifiable statistic. There are an average of 160 such events all over the world each year. We've had what....four in 2 weeks? Three in the US, one in Sweden. That's not "all over the world" and it's nothing out of the ordinary given the nature of chance.


and to add to that most of the recorded mass deaths have specific factors behind them. Like an outbreak of disease, poisoning, parasites ect...

And I'm sure these mass deaths have a rational explanation with specific factors too.

If you really want to imagine something more exciting behind these events than a flock of birds dying from a contaminated water supply then yes...possibly there's a cover up of some sort going on. The army may have been testing chemical or sonar weapons and this was a side effect, I dont know. What I do know is this... its insane to assume an apocalypse is coming rather than seek a rational explanation. Save the fantasy for where it belongs...in TV, films and video games.

.		2011-01-08 22:47:00

Author:
Ungreth
Posts: 2130

That means nothing. It's not even a quantifiable statistic. There are an average of 160 such events all over the world each year.

The average of 160 per year is just for the US. I havn't seen the data for the world or any other countries cited in any of the coverage I've seen		2011-01-08 23:18:00

Author:
Rabid-Coot
Posts: 6728

I agree with Ungreth all the way. These dead birds could be the result of Justin Bieber's horrible singing or some time-traveler who took a wrong turn at the Triassic Period for all I care, but to assume that this is some omen of an oncoming world-death is more absurd than any other explanation (no matter how off-beat) I could make up. IN earlier years, people thought eclipses (like the one I stayed up to watch, with much excitement, some weeks ago) were a sign of the apocalypse, but know we know better. At least, some of us do. This is the same thing. Even if there isn't an explanation, I'll only preach the end of the world when [INSERT CHOSEN DEITY HERE] literally comes down here and rams a Sword of Apocalypse +42 into the very Earth's core.2011-01-08 23:18:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046

Wow... that was actually really fun reading through. I have no idea what to beleive anymore. It could mean something, but then it might just be a coincidence....

My personal favourite parts/arguments;
- We've been on the earth so long that something is bound to happen. The lnger you're here the higher probability that something like this will happen.
- It's happening so quickly and not isolated
- Some random American senator getting killed is to blame for it??

I'll wait until some results are in before I make any decisions, but as always it's hilarious to read some crazy theories 		2011-01-09 00:25:00

Author:
Coxy224
Posts: 2645

That means nothing. It's not even a quantifiable statistic. There are an average of 160 such events all over the world each year. We've had what....four in 2 weeks? Three in the US, one in Sweden. That's not "all over the world" and it's nothing out of the ordinary given the nature of chance.


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Here are the locations of all mass animal deaths in just the past 2 weeks alone. The mass animal deaths that your talking about, don't usually happen instantaneously either.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g382/Sherri_SoutoFerri/Massdeath.png		2011-01-09 03:57:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

You know there is another theory...

http://www.examiner.com/lake-county-independent-in-cleveland/polar-shift-cause-for-wildlife-deaths-1

Supposedly the Earth's magnetic poles are shifting and faster than ever. Food for thought 		2011-01-09 10:18:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836

I couldn't help but reply to this one. Those occurrences are more than likely caused by "water spouts" which are basically tornadoes on a body of water. If there is an answer for that phenomenon then there must one for the birds and fish all over the world suddenly dying. Is it the end of the world that is doing it? Probably not, but whatever it is, you have to admit even if you're trying to kid yourself... It's bizarre. So in closing ask yourself this, if it can happen to birds and fish that easily, can it happen to people? Don't be so sure.

No, I wouldn't say it's bizarre.
Not when it happens so often and in such disperate locations.

The probem you all have is that you are trying to thread a cohesive narrative into completely unrelated events.
A flock of birds dying suddenly in Stockholm has absolutely nothing to do with a rain of frogs in egypt, or any other mass animal death in any other part of the world.

The truth is it has rained humans before, it does it quite frequently... it's just that when weather conditions are such that the force of the wind is strong enough to pick up an animal as large as a human, it also picks up other objects, like trees and cars and houses... and we call those things "Tornados" or "Hurricaines".

Are hurricaines or tornados "bizzarre" or are they just a naturally occuring meteorological phenomenon?

These different animals dying in different locations around the globe are all seperate incidents... there is no correlation between the events and no "underlying narrative" (such as the end of the world) surrounding them.

There are several rational, scientifically explainable scenarios in which these mass animal deaths could have happened.
There is no reason at all to suspect that we are witnessing the fufillment of an ancient myan prophecy. Did the Myan prophecy mention anything about mass animal deaths? I don't think it did you know. It was just the end of their calendar, not "the end of the world", in fact they didn't mention anything about the world ending... that was in the book of revelations, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the Myans were not Christians. There is so much confused mumbo jumbo surrounding this, it is laughable that anyone would take the notion seriously even as a passing thought.

Armageddon will most likely happen either by our own designs (mutually assured destruction), or by other naturally occurring phenomenon, such as a meteorite strike or a super volcano exploding, but again, that isn't something that can be predicted. At least not by the flights of birds


Honestly, it's as if the age of enlightenment never even happened!		2011-01-09 12:21:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

WERE ALL GONNA DIE!

well thats how people are reacting to this stupid 2012 rubbish . how can you possibly predict that the world ends in 2012 ? i mean c'mon Busted have been to the year 3000		2011-01-09 14:00:00

Author:
howMUCHforBOUNTY
Posts: 623

BLAH BLAH tl/dr....J/K
Honestly, it's as if the age of enlightenment never even happened!

Since the age of enlightenment, man has contemplated the extinction of the human race. It seems the people who are saying this is nothing new and this happens all the time are also the ones talking about 2012 and the Mayan calender the most. The others are just saying how this is freaky and scary that this is happening.
That is a Freudian slip if you ask me. 		2011-01-09 17:49:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

A freudian slip is where you say one thing when you're thinking of a mother... err. another 2011-01-09 19:20:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

A freudian slip is where you say one thing when you're thinking of a mother... err. another

Come now, do we have to go on this tangent? Alright then. The Definition of a Freudian slip is a mistake in speech or action in which a person supposedly shows his or her true subconscious feeling or thoughts. You think people are saying apocalypse when in fact you are the ones thinking apocalypse. Just admit the whole thing is just a little bit strange and we can leave it at that.		2011-01-09 19:29:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

So what you are trying to say, is that my posts regarding the frivolous nature of any claim that the world is going to end, is because I have a deep seated unconsious fear that these animal deaths are actually heralds of the apocalypse?

Nice theory, if not for one teeny, tiny flaw. That flaw being you are 100% completely and utterly wrong.

I didn't "mistakenly" bring up the mayan prophecy, it was mentioned hitherto in the thread. I am simply trying to bury the notion completely.

In case you hadn't noticed, the freudian slip line was a joke.

I don't know what you mean by "The whole thing" being strange. as if all of these animal deaths are related somehow?!
There is an individual, and specific rational explination for each one of these events.
How is that strange?		2011-01-09 19:41:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Macnme if you have any specific rational explanations will you share them!! I for one would love to hear them.

That means nothing. It's not even a quantifiable statistic. There are an average of 160 such events all over the world each year. We've had what....four in 2 weeks? Three in the US, one in Sweden. That's not "all over the world" and it's nothing out of the ordinary given the nature of chance.

Im sorry ungreth but your information is wrong =)

Italy is having major issues along with south america and canada just to name a few. I agree entirely that these are not sure signs of the apocalypse, just want to repeat that.
But so far i haven't some across any "rational" or "scientific" explanations for these events. I hope they do find some honestly. I would feel much more comfortable knowing that it was a contaminated water supply, but sadly poisoning was ruled out early on. The popularly accepted belief that the birds were scared from they're roosts by fireworks which caused them to turn kamikaze and fly into nearby houses or errr trees, cars, and powerlines seems a bit weak to me. I mean for one fireworks are an annual occurance, are the bird deaths?? I doubt it would have attracted so much media attention if this kinda thing happened every year. But what gets me is its not only the birds that bit the dust. There are thousand upon thousands of fish dying all around the globe. turning up dead of no accord. We may be making a mountain out of a molehill but i would rather question the cause of all these sudden deaths than discount them entirely as an act of nature.		2011-01-09 20:47:00

Author:
K3NDRAKRAY
Posts: 61

So what you are trying to say, is that my posts regarding the frivolous nature of any claim that the world is going to end, is because I have a deep seated unconsious fear that these animal deaths are actually heralds of the apocalypse?

Nice theory, if not for one teeny, tiny flaw. That flaw being you are 100% completely and utterly wrong.

I didn't "mistakenly" bring up the mayan prophecy, it was mentioned hitherto in the thread. I am simply trying to bury the notion completely.

In case you hadn't noticed, the freudian slip line was a joke.

I don't know what you mean by "The whole thing" being strange. as if all of these animal deaths are related somehow?!
There is an individual, and specific rational explination for each one of these events.
How is that strange?

It wasn't directed towards you but more towards the simple fact that I haven't heard anyone cry out " ah! it's the end of the world " It has been more like " Oh wow that is strange hmmm " followed up by somebody saying " Just because a bunch of stupid birds died it doesn't mean the end of the world, the Mayans got it wrong, stop worrying "

I will stop with this back and forth banter between you and I, but if you want to reply any further, send me a VM.		2011-01-09 20:53:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

This is all coincidental... or well, to me, anyway.

Moss has always been a big problem in areas like the Great Lakes and in Scandinavian waters. Largely due to pollutants and poor management, the moss thrives and strips away precious nutrients from the water. Once a certain number is reached, boom. Widespread killing.

As for the birds, that was all mostly due to a HUGE electrical storm. The volitile lightning and constant currents would easily kill off the flock. And, depending on the flock, they could range in size from 4-5 to easily over 500.

And no, I don't believe in 2012. I just believe someone's gonna do something REALLY STUPID that day.		2011-01-09 21:09:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757

Interesting discussion guys... let's keep it civil so it can continue.2011-01-09 21:13:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

Each specific instance has it's own specific explanation.
This could vary from something startling them, electromagnetic interference messing with their navigation sense, poisoning, disorientation caused by planes, electrical storms or ball lightning, mini-tornados or sudden drops in air pressure to name but a few.

Just because something is unexplained, doesn't mean it doesn't have an explanation 		2011-01-10 00:01:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Some blame their god for that,
some think its the end of the world.
others might blame obama..
I just blame BP

(not based on my actual opinion, which is kinda useless)		2011-01-10 13:15:00

Author:
Luos_83
Posts: 2136

Aliens I tell you! Aliens! I seen 'em with my own eye!2011-01-10 14:38:00

Author:
Testudini
Posts: 3262

This is all coincidental... or well, to me, anyway.

Moss has always been a big problem in areas like the Great Lakes and in Scandinavian waters. Largely due to pollutants and poor management, the moss thrives and strips away precious nutrients from the water. Once a certain number is reached, boom. Widespread killing.

As for the birds, that was all mostly due to a HUGE electrical storm. The volitile lightning and constant currents would easily kill off the flock. And, depending on the flock, they could range in size from 4-5 to easily over 500.

And no, I don't believe in 2012. I just believe someone's gonna do something REALLY STUPID that day.

How the hell can you not believe in a year?		2011-01-10 17:02:00

Author:
Unknown User

How the hell can you not believe in a year?

I heard there was another 9/11 planned for this year aswell! 		2011-01-11 14:50:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Hmmmm...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI&feature=related

Ha I lol'd 'The metal barely melted at all!'		2011-01-11 21:01:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836

i heard there was another 9/11 planned for this year aswell!


hmmmm...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sahs6j0oxvi&feature=related

What the Fudge does that have to do with Birds and Fish dying? What?		2011-01-11 22:28:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

It's a conspiracy, of course.

I can see you are in denial... or Have 'they' already gotten to you too!!! 		2011-01-11 23:00:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

It's a conspiracy, of course.

I can see you are in denial... or Have 'they' already gotten to you too!!!

Did I miss something? When did this go from
" It's not the end of world go back to sleep " Retorts to " Here is my smart *** comment about conspiracy theories"?		2011-01-11 23:03:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

Count California in as well, specifically the Bay Area.2011-01-12 00:54:00

Author:
Whalio Cappuccino
Posts: 5250

LMAO at the guy in the second video saying "It was like something out of an Albert Hitchcock film".

Hahaha, who the heck is Albert Hitchcock? Maybe he's related to Alfred. 		2011-01-12 01:18:00

Author:
VelcroJonze
Posts: 1305

Did I miss something? When did this go from
" It's not the end of world go back to sleep " Retorts to " Here is my smart *** comment about conspiracy theories"?

It was after I watched the expose on the sinking of the Titanic! Then my eyes were opened!

Iv'e said it before and I'll say it again.
Keyboards need a sarcasm button! 		2011-01-12 18:40:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970

Oh god, this **** just got real...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8		2011-01-12 19:49:00

Author:
ladylyn1
Posts: 836

How the hell can you not believe in a year?

Touche.

And... since when did talk about dead birds and fish turn into posting the most ridiculous Youtube videos you could find?		2011-01-12 22:45:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757

Touche.

And... since when did talk about dead birds and fish turn into posting the most ridiculous Youtube videos you could find?

Yeah that's what I'm saying. You leave me 2 options, ( 3 if you count just walking away with my tail between my legs which is not going to happen ). (1) Get back on topic or prepare for Flamage or (2) I will have no choice but to call in the Calvary.
STOP SPAMMING MAH THREAD!		2011-01-12 23:28:00

Author:
KILLA_TODDZILLA
Posts: 653

Oh god, this **** just got real...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8

I've seen this video and am consistently dumbfounded by this woman. Best part is her voted counts as much as mine here in the US....

ANYWAY..... ya, let's keep the random (albeit amusing) Videos to a minimum.		2011-01-13 17:17:00

Author:
Morgana25
Posts: 5983

I wish some fried chicken would fall out of the sky right now. That would really hit the spot.2011-01-13 17:24:00

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