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LBP.me Integration - Part 2!
Archive: 233 posts
| Two days ago we announced live level posts (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=42529-Announcing-comprehensive-LBP.me-integration%21&p=718939#post718939), completely based on data grabbed from LBP.me. An awesome feature, if I do say so myself. Today, we're bringing something new to the table: live user statistics. Thanks to some awesome tools we've whipped up, we are now able to display lots of new info about you and the users around you. The first thing you'll notice is that every user's personal LBP polaroid displays right next to their name, and, when clicked, it also brings up their LBP.me profile. We've also got full heart display and published level count - even including a link to the user's published levels - so it's fairly comprehensive. The dropdown menu you get when you click someone's username contains a new link to their LBP.me profile, as well - if you prefer that route. How does this work? We use the PSN you provide us to grab all sorts of data about you from LBP.me, then we cache it (for load reasons) and display it. Of course, we fully respect privacy: if you don't provide a PSN, or if your LBP data is set to private, we don't display anything. You cache the data? We hold on to it for a period of time to make sure we're not hitting LBP.me with a ton of requests all at once. We update the data regularly, so don't worry about things getting too out of date. It'll keep up with you just fine.  What if I want to opt out? We offer some great built-in privacy tools that afford you a ton of control over both how others see your data and how you see others' data. Simply head to Settings > Edit Profile (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/profile.php?do=editprofile) and scroll down until you find the "LBP.me - Personal Data Display" and "LBP.me - Global Data Display" settings. Both are there for you to utilize at all times, so you'll always have complete control over how your data is being displayed. On the other side of the coin, we support the same privacy features LBP and LBP2 do, so if you choose not to publish your information to the web, we won't show it here either. Also, we won't display any information (cached or otherwise) if you haven't provided us with a PSN, so that's an option as well. Remember, though, that won't prevent someone from getting at your data if they really wanted to. We definitely encourage you to use both the official privacy tools and the tools LBPCentral provides to ensure you're in full control. Hopefully you all enjoy the new features! | 2011-01-01 23:33:00 Author: ConfusedCartman  Posts: 3729 |
| Okay. That is awesome. Also, at first I thought those numbers beside our names was some sort of secret code that we would have do decode. o_o | 2011-01-01 23:35:00 Author: Kog  Posts: 2358 |
Wow another excellent feature! Another win for LBPC!  | 2011-01-01 23:35:00 Author: Coxy224  Posts: 2645 |
| Everything looks so neat, organized, and official. Thanks, CC and the Mod Team. | 2011-01-01 23:35:00 Author: Night Angel  Posts: 1214 |
Hoooolyyyyy.... Awesome  Amazing work CC! | 2011-01-01 23:36:00 Author: Alec  Posts: 3871 |
| Sweet Nice work again guys! | 2011-01-01 23:38:00 Author: Morgana25  Posts: 5983 |
| LBPC just keeps getting better and better...and its already the best LBP fansite | 2011-01-01 23:39:00 Author: Shadowcrazy  Posts: 3365 |
| god this place just keeps getting better and better. | 2011-01-01 23:41:00 Author: oldage  Posts: 2824 |
Nice!  ______ | 2011-01-01 23:43:00 Author: ConverseFox  Posts: 2333 |
| Woohoo...it just keeps getting better | 2011-01-01 23:45:00 Author: Spider-Jew  Posts: 1090 |
Glad you all seem to like it. Feels like we've been working on it solidly for the past 4 days, but maybe I'm just imagining things.  If your info isn't displaying, you need to ensure:- You entered a valid PSN in your profile. You're enabled your lbp.me profile for public viewing in your Web Privacy Settings (http://lbp.me/privacy_settings) Enjoy. | 2011-01-01 23:47:00 Author: Aya042  Posts: 2870 |
| wow awesome feature! keep up the magnificent work guys! | 2011-01-01 23:48:00 Author: Arnald23  Posts: 1843 |
| Thanks to you CC and to AYA!!! Awesome work!!! | 2011-01-01 23:52:00 Author: OmegaSlayer  Posts: 5112 |
Also I just notice I only have 12 hearts in LBP1  I feel so un-love.......oh well lol Again keep it up CC you are creating magic for the site! | 2011-01-02 00:00:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
| Awesome, keep up the good work! Now, no one has to shovel through a link just to find their hearts, and etc. This helps greatly! | 2011-01-02 00:03:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| You guy's really went all out on this stuff. Fantastic work. You're really pumping me up for lbp2 lol. | 2011-01-02 00:10:00 Author: Duffluc  Posts: 402 |
| Good work site staff! | 2011-01-02 00:10:00 Author: Gui_Rike  Posts: 184 |
| I knew you were making something new! I noticed weird 1's and 0's next to some people's usernames a few minutes ago. But still, awesome! | 2011-01-02 00:14:00 Author: iArekusu Posts: 402 |
| WOW!!! Great work guys, with LBP2 coming this is going to help immensely. | 2011-01-02 00:14:00 Author: Devious_Oatmeal  Posts: 1799 |
| Wow amazing new feature! Top work guys! For bragging right's, I think a change is in order for myself! Edit: Done! XD | 2011-01-02 00:31:00 Author: Mr_T-Shirt  Posts: 1477 |
| Really Cool!!! O_o who said hi on the page I got after posting?!?!?! it said redirecting but it said hi in the top corner!!!! | 2011-01-02 00:32:00 Author: fodawim Posts: 363 |
| Awesome stuff can't wait to use these new features! | 2011-01-02 00:33:00 Author: Littlebigdude805  Posts: 1924 |
| Nice work! I just wish the hearts from the beta transferred over... Ah well! Gunna have to earn em back then! | 2011-01-02 00:37:00 Author: standby250  Posts: 1113 |
| You deserve 2 Platinum trophies for this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzTrYk0VWu0 | 2011-01-02 00:40:00 Author: wait wtf  Posts: 853 |
| I wondered why the font had changed. This is probably one of the best updates to the site. Thank you CC and Aya, and of course all the other site staff. | 2011-01-02 00:41:00 Author: robotiod  Posts: 2662 |
| WOW!!! Great work guys, with LBP2 coming this is going to help immensely. But this only shows the info for littlebigplanet 1? | 2011-01-02 00:42:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843 |
| But this only shows the info for littlebigplanet 1? They will ultimately share the same server. I suspect you'll only be able to publish 20 levels between both games. | 2011-01-02 00:44:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| You rock...nothing to add! Thanks very much! | 2011-01-02 00:46:00 Author: dajdaj03  Posts: 1486 |
| Nice work! I just wish the hearts from the beta transferred over... They will, if everybody transfers the hearts they gave. | 2011-01-02 00:54:00 Author: Rogar  Posts: 2284 |
| They will ultimately share the same server. I suspect you'll only be able to publish 20 levels between both games. Either way, we'll support LBP2 completely one way or another. Don't sweat it! | 2011-01-02 00:54:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| Just realised the Moderator buttons (picture things under the Mods and CC's names) are gone. Is that a permanent change? | 2011-01-02 00:56:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Just realised the Moderator buttons (picture things under the Mods and CC's names) are gone. Is that a permanent change? Yep - not enough room! | 2011-01-02 01:06:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| This is why I love you guys. ...except now you guys can see my embarrassing reputation. :SH: | 2011-01-02 01:13:00 Author: ThePineapplizer  Posts: 769 |
My LBP avatar next to my name doesn't update here on LBPC when I change it in LBP  | 2011-01-02 01:26:00 Author: Alec Posts: 3871 |
| My LBP avatar next to my name doesn't update here on LBPC when I change it in LBP Allow me to direct you to this portion: You cache the data? We hold on to it for a period of time to make sure we're not hitting LBP.me with a ton of requests all at once. We update the data regularly, so don't worry about things getting too out of date. It'll keep up with you just fine. So, give it some time. It won't update immediately, but it'll update. If we designed it to update immediately, we'd have to hit LBP.me once for every user on the site for every page load - e.g. many, many times. We're trying to keep the load on LBP.me as light as is reasonable. | 2011-01-02 01:45:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| My LBP avatar next to my name doesn't update here on LBPC when I change it in LBP As CC said in the first post (and above), the data is cached for a few hours, or until your LBPC user profile changes. If you go to your Edit Profile (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/profile.php?do=editprofile) page, and just click "Save Changes" at the bottom (you don't need to actually change anything), then that will flush your user info from the cache, and next time you refresh your post, you'll get fresh data. You'll have to do the same thing if you change your lbp.me profile between public and private, or if you want to change your PSN ID, although in the latter case, you'd have to change your profile to update your PSN anyway. | 2011-01-02 01:45:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Wow, great improvement, once again! | 2011-01-02 01:49:00 Author: iBubek  Posts: 682 |
| LBPC is getting so much better! I love this website. If only the PSP had lbp.me capabilities D: | 2011-01-02 02:18:00 Author: anoken  Posts: 1654 |
| This is the most amazingly amazing fansite EVER | 2011-01-02 02:23:00 Author: wolverine_2008  Posts: 304 |
| Is there a reason why my profile didn't update the first time? I know you guys cache the data, but my profile is currently bare | 2011-01-02 02:30:00 Author: Night Angel Posts: 1214 |
| I love it! This is great! | 2011-01-02 02:33:00 Author: xkappax  Posts: 2569 |
| Is there a reason why my profile didn't update the first time? I know you guys cache the data, but my profile is currently bare Your LBP.me profile (http://lbp.me/u/NightAngel321) is currently set to private. We respect privacy settings, so it won't show up unless you make that data public. | 2011-01-02 02:37:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| Hooray, it's live! Nice job, fellas. | 2011-01-02 02:38:00 Author: comphermc  Posts: 5338 |
| Great update! This site just keeps getting better and better. | 2011-01-02 02:38:00 Author: Serpent541  Posts: 83 |
| Wow! The integration with this site and LBP really gives LBP.me a run for its money! Keep up the great work! | 2011-01-02 02:50:00 Author: Jayhawk_er  Posts: 403 |
| Thank you guys for this nice feature!! | 2011-01-02 02:50:00 Author: Xx_Mr_Orange_xX  Posts: 115 |
| Thank you very much guys! This sort of stuff is what makes this the best and most comprehensive LBP forum. ... Actually, its the best forum site I've *ever* seen. Cheers! | 2011-01-02 02:57:00 Author: Fishrock123  Posts: 1578 |
| Ok, I am officially impressed now. Nice work guys and gals. | 2011-01-02 03:00:00 Author: midnight_heist  Posts: 2513 |
| Yep - not enough room! At least now people will finally shut up about Sehven and jeffcu's buttons  ... by which I mean only one person. /coughStill... omega feature! Now people will be able to see just how horrible I am at creating... even more so! XD Still. ... Yep. ... will there be a part 3? Also, when I saw this, my first reaction was going "Part 2 part 2!" like Spongebob in the episode with the exploding pie. :/ | 2011-01-02 03:06:00 Author: RockSauron  Posts: 10882 |
| Very much excellent! Thanks! The only thing I worry of is that some may use "hearts" as a form of rank. But I'm sure they will work more for the better rather than the worse. | 2011-01-02 03:09:00 Author: warlord_evil  Posts: 4193 |
| Your LBP.me profile (http://lbp.me/u/NightAngel321) is currently set to private. We respect privacy settings, so it won't show up unless you make that data public. OK, I honestly had no idea >.< I set it straight | 2011-01-02 03:30:00 Author: Night Angel Posts: 1214 |
| LBPC is getting so much better! I love this website. If only the PSP had lbp.me capabilities D: The problem of LBP PSP is fact that they run on different servers so or they make special lbp.me for psp or they gonna update psp version to support original lbp protocol and merge the databases (but looking how they approached to mergeing beta to original severs it may not happen). LBP PSP2 would be better game to work with lbp.me | 2011-01-02 03:50:00 Author: Shadowriver  Posts: 3991 |
| And the awesomeness continues!! Huzzah!! this site is getting awesomer ( I don't think that's a word...is it??errr no I don't think so) every day!! *sniff sniff* Do I smell more stuff coming or is that just my mom's meat loaf? :3 | 2011-01-02 03:50:00 Author: Amigps  Posts: 564 |
| OK, I honestly had no idea >.< I set it straight Sounds good. The changes will be reflected on our end either the next time our cache updates (in the next couple of hours) or the next time you make changes to your LBPCentral profile (like, for example, changing your PSN - although any change will do it, really). | 2011-01-02 04:48:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| Wow, even more awesomeness in this place? tks! | 2011-01-02 04:53:00 Author: RangerZero  Posts: 3901 |
| Pretty excellent! Of course, now when I post I'll feel inferior when replying to someone with many more creator hearts than me.... "heart" envy.... | 2011-01-02 04:58:00 Author: CCubbage  Posts: 4430 |
| Pretty excellent! Of course, now when I post I'll feel inferior when replying to someone with many more creator hearts than me.... "heart" envy.... Man, people even like ME more than you! | 2011-01-02 04:59:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901 |
| Just logged on... and you guys are making light... of what just was running through my head! Of course I love these things! It's how 'we see ourselves' that matters... the whole Avatar "I see YOU". Still for a site, that at times so focuses on fair and even footing... I wondered about this move. | 2011-01-02 05:04:00 Author: Gravel  Posts: 1308 |
| Pretty excellent! Of course, now when I post I'll feel inferior when replying to someone with many more creator hearts than me.... "heart" envy.... Man, people even like ME more than you! Oh no...I'm starting to like RangerZero more than CCubbage due to that one extra heart! | 2011-01-02 05:09:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193 |
| I have a question. Exactly how often do the stats update? Once a day? Week? Month? | 2011-01-02 05:15:00 Author: Super_Dork_42  Posts: 1874 |
| I have a question. Exactly how often do the stats update? Once a day? Week? Month? Every few hours, actually. Often enough that most people should be happy with how up-to-date the information is (we hope!). | 2011-01-02 05:33:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| I really like this,its a great idea | 2011-01-02 06:28:00 Author: Unknown User |
| SWEET!! Lol, now everyone can see all my hearts! Now I don't know if you can do this or not but this site could use a version made for the ps3 browser. I have no PC so that would great. | 2011-01-02 06:37:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Thats really cool! | 2011-01-02 06:43:00 Author: kabirdsall14  Posts: 180 |
| Supremely awesome, I never imagined that you guys would be able to use .me this way! | 2011-01-02 08:26:00 Author: Asbestos101  Posts: 1114 |
| Thanks alot, CC and the mods. We love all the new features you've brought in over the past few days Edit: I've probably mis-read CC's first post on this thread but mine doesn't work.... No LBP.me stuff under my name. | 2011-01-02 08:36:00 Author: mutant_red_peas  Posts: 516 |
| Wow! The website just keeps getting better and better, can't wait to see what you add next. | 2011-01-02 08:42:00 Author: CYBERSNAKE  Posts: 280 |
| Just as good as cake! <.< | 2011-01-02 10:00:00 Author: moonwire  Posts: 1627 |
| Very nice! You guys are the best! =P | 2011-01-02 10:08:00 Author: Kirpy  Posts: 117 |
| Very cool....Its seems i have more hearts than all of you XD | 2011-01-02 10:08:00 Author: Sim725  Posts: 247 |
| Ok, so now I expectthat the next upgrade will be playing LBP2 HERE on Central via flash, so guys, move your slacker's bums and don't disappoint me, OK? Especially you Aya! | 2011-01-02 10:13:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
| Great work again guys. BUT, I really don't think hearts should be displayed. Isn't that basically ranking people? When you have some people posting with hundreds or thousands of hearts, surely that isn't too good for the ones with just a few hearts? Won't it make them feel insignificant? Won't people starting judging others opinions and value of contribution based on how many hearts they have? Hearts only really have any value in the game, not here on the forum. We can still see them by clicking through to the players LBP.me profile if we reall want. I can't see anything good coming out of this... | 2011-01-02 11:27:00 Author: Nuclearfish  Posts: 927 |
| Wow! It looks so so cool! Thanks so much to CC and the mods for this excellent feature! EDIT: Mine don't show up..  | 2011-01-02 11:55:00 Author: Plasmavore  Posts: 1913 |
| At least now people will finally shut up about Sehven and jeffcu's buttons ... by which I mean only one person. /cough Heh, that must be why CC never added their mod badges, because he knew they'd just be taken away again. Edit: I've probably mis-read CC's first post on this thread but mine doesn't work.... No LBP.me stuff under my name.Of course, we fully respect privacy: if you don't provide a PSN, or if your LBP data is set to private, we don't display anything. You can change privacy settings here (http://lbp.me/privacy_settings). Edit: Forgot to say, this is awesome. Thanks for the awesomeness. The only problem is people could use someone else's PSN to make it look like they have loads of hearts. | 2011-01-02 12:02:00 Author: Doopz  Posts: 5592 |
| Another great feature embedded on this fabulous fansite =D | 2011-01-02 12:22:00 Author: J_wulfke  Posts: 72 |
| This is awesome, thank you! | 2011-01-02 13:01:00 Author: galacemiguel  Posts: 179 |
| BUT, I really don't think hearts should be displayed. Isn't that basically ranking people? When you have some people posting with hundreds or thousands of hearts, surely that isn't too good for the ones with just a few hearts? Won't it make them feel insignificant? Won't people starting judging others opinions and value of contribution based on how many hearts they have? Hearts only really have any value in the game, not here on the forum. We can still see them by clicking through to the players LBP.me profile if we reall want. I can't see anything good coming out of this... We'd better listen to him, he has six thousand hearts! Yeah, hearts are already way too big a deal in the game, but unless we start doing heart trophies on this forum I don't think it will be much of a problem. We already have that green bar and I barely pay attention to that. I'm keeping track of you all with my own rep meters in my head. | 2011-01-02 13:17:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284 |
| Wow this site has just had a massive update! | 2011-01-02 13:25:00 Author: TehUberZac  Posts: 587 |
| Looks pretty | 2011-01-02 13:50:00 Author: Nurolight  Posts: 918 |
| I'm away for a couple days and this is the first time I see as soon as I'm back? I love this site | 2011-01-02 14:03:00 Author: Shadowheaven  Posts: 378 |
| Awesome work, LBPC Staff!!! | 2011-01-02 14:09:00 Author: ViniciusBR11  Posts: 546 |
| BUT, I really don't think hearts should be displayed. Isn't that basically ranking people? When you have some people posting with hundreds or thousands of hearts, surely that isn't too good for the ones with just a few hearts? Won't it make them feel insignificant? Won't people starting judging others opinions and value of contribution based on how many hearts they have? Hearts only really have any value in the game, not here on the forum. We can still see them by clicking through to the players LBP.me profile if we really want. I can't see anything good coming out of this... Still for a site, that at times so focuses on fair and even footing... I wondered about this move. I know how hard you guys worked on this - and technically it's very impressive - but I'm sorry, I have to agree with Nuclearfish and Gravel on this. I don't see the value in the clear disparity represented by displaying creator hearts. Plus... The only problem is people could use someone else's PSN to make it look like they have loads of hearts. As someone has already done: Wow amazing new feature! Top work guys! For bragging right's, I think a change is in order for myself! Edit: Done! XD | 2011-01-02 14:16:00 Author: v0rtex  Posts: 1878 |
| Thanks. Really cool. LBP.me and LBPC are meant to be together! | 2011-01-02 14:18:00 Author: ghik16  Posts: 311 |
| Great work again guys. BUT, I really don't think hearts should be displayed. Isn't that basically ranking people? When you have some people posting with hundreds or thousands of hearts, surely that isn't too good for the ones with just a few hearts? Won't it make them feel insignificant? Won't people starting judging others opinions and value of contribution based on how many hearts they have? Hearts only really have any value in the game, not here on the forum. We can still see them by clicking through to the players LBP.me profile if we reall want. I can't see anything good coming out of this... While you are right to a certain extent, everyone here knows the most hearted creators, so that's no biggie imho. I have really few hearts but don't mind that they're displayed and I don't feel insignificant. Even because I may be lame as an LBP creator, but life is not only this | 2011-01-02 14:28:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
| Wow, a great new feature CC, Aya, and everyone else who helped with this! | 2011-01-02 14:52:00 Author: RJA00000  Posts: 387 |
| ****** ! since i made a new account for lbp2 i only have 3 hearts instead of 56 hearts on my old account ... oh well .... lbp2 releases in 2 weeks so i'll get some hearts that way | 2011-01-02 14:52:00 Author: TOXIC_KILLA_  Posts: 147 |
| While it may be argued my opinion is biased in this matter, I see this addition not as a way to stroke egos or to rank people, but to do more to bring the LittleBigPlanet games to the center of the site's focus. The same data is posted on lbp.me, unless you hide it there, in which case it's hidden here. Are you going to complain about information being displayed on lbp.me as you do here? How is it any different on here? I don't hope to understand your reasons, but regardless... I have a hard time figuring out why, exactly, this is an issue of LBPC's doing. Assuming you have a visible profile, anytime you link to a level or your profile on lbp.me, your heart count will be clearly visible. Anytime someone plays your level, you heart count will be clearly visible. Thus, you pretty much have to decide... Do I want people to see my heart count? If the answer to this question is "No," there is nobody stopping you from hiding your lbp.me profile. It's a benefit in which you are not required to partake. Edit: Now, there may be people who think that their heart count will sway the opinions of those reading their posts, but really... if someone is reading into your posts this shallowly, do you really care about their opinion? Hearts are in no way tied to value, that I can tell you. Hell, I'm basically worthless, after all... | 2011-01-02 14:54:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Getting hearts is now gonna be that much more competitive. | 2011-01-02 15:05:00 Author: MasterCreator  Posts: 464 |
| Fantastic new feature! I'm pleased to see you guys running this site do a lot to keep it fresh with all these new thingy-me-bobs MasterCreator: I didn't think getting hearts was competitive in the first place? | 2011-01-02 15:10:00 Author: ladylyn1  Posts: 836 |
| Well now i want more hearts than anyone else now and we can see the amount of hearts users have easily. It doesn't seem to be working for me. I have everything set to everyone on here and on lbp.me and it still doesn't work. | 2011-01-02 15:13:00 Author: MasterCreator Posts: 464 |
| I have everything set to everyone on here and on lbp.me and it still doesn't work. Give it a few hours and report back if it's still not working. | 2011-01-02 15:23:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| This is crazy awesome. Is there more to come? Great job syncing in with lbp.me guys. It really takes this site to the next level. | 2011-01-02 15:33:00 Author: Kitkasumass  Posts: 494 |
| While it may be argued my opinion is biased in this matter, I see this addition not as a way to stroke egos or to rank people, but to do more to bring the LittleBigPlanet games to the center of the site's focus. The same data is posted on lbp.me, unless you hide it there, in which case it's hidden here. Are you going to complain about information being displayed on lbp.me as you do here? How is it any different on here? I don't hope to understand your reasons, but regardless... Etc etc... The thing I have a problem with is that hearts have nothing to do with LBPC, so I don't get why they're displayed as a big bold number under your username. I don't care about how many hearts people may have when discussing things on a forum. On lbp.me it makes sense, but not here. The only thing the hearts will tell me is how popular that player is within the game, which is pretty irrelevant here. All I can see it doing is causing many problems in the future, I don't see what the benefit is of publicly displaying it. | 2011-01-02 16:11:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927 |
| Fantastic stuff, guys! Keep up the great work. | 2011-01-02 16:15:00 Author: RoharDragontamer  Posts: 397 |
| This is great! I'm going to be on LBPC more often! | 2011-01-02 16:34:00 Author: Unknown User |
| These site updates are really nice. Great job! | 2011-01-02 17:39:00 Author: piggabling  Posts: 2979 |
| Hey thank you so much LBPC this work is wonderfull, i like this surprise this morning | 2011-01-02 17:46:00 Author: psyntens  Posts: 562 |
| @Nuclearfish: The sequence of numbers above your head equal 108 is that your age? @comphermc: Still doesn't seem to be working for me, any ideas on how to fix it? It works now, but I removed it anyway. | 2011-01-02 18:37:00 Author: MasterCreator Posts: 464 |
| The thing I have a problem with is that hearts have nothing to do with LBPC, so I don't get why they're displayed as a big bold number under your username. I don't care about how many hearts people may have when discussing things on a forum. On lbp.me it makes sense, but not here. The only thing the hearts will tell me is how popular that player is within the game, which is pretty irrelevant here. All I can see it doing is causing many problems in the future, I don't see what the benefit is of publicly displaying it. Why not just let's make a setting here if or not hearts are displayed and avoid the blame from going to the staff from the future arguments that will inevitbly come from hearts (and ultimately jealousy/greed)? Like, who disagrees with this? C'mon, speak up if you do. | 2011-01-02 18:52:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578 |
| Nice job guys. | 2011-01-02 19:02:00 Author: Linque  Posts: 607 |
| *posts to see if it's worked* Wow, that is so cool. | 2011-01-02 19:04:00 Author: kirbyman62  Posts: 1893 |
| Not to pick faults, but I'd rather my information wasn't displayed (it doesn't mean a thing to me), regardless of what my LBP.me settings are. A setting to disable it would be good Still, awesome work CC and Aya Anyone want to have a bet on when the first "my point is more valid because I have more hearts" post appears?? | 2011-01-02 19:04:00 Author: GruntosUK  Posts: 1754 |
| Not to pick faults, but I'd rather my information wasn't displayed (it doesn't mean a thing to me), regardless of what my LBP.me settings are. A setting to disable it would be good Still, awesome work CC and Aya Anyone want to have a bet on when the first "my point is more valid because I have more hearts" post appears?? I'll take you up on that >=D. I'll say it will be... right now. *posts to see if it's worked* Wow, that is so cool. I have more hearts then you! My point is more valid! Pay up, you drunk. >_< | 2011-01-02 19:06:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| I win then, I have more hearts, have a peanut tho, you've deserved it | 2011-01-02 19:10:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754 |
| Holy sauce! This is awesome! Thanks CC. | 2011-01-02 19:11:00 Author: X-FROGBOY-X  Posts: 1800 |
| I'll take you up on that >=D. I'll say it will be... right now. I have more hearts then you! My point is more valid! Pay up, you drunk. >_< Of all the posts you chose, why me Would you like cash or cheque? | 2011-01-02 19:48:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893 |
| Of all the posts you chose, why me Would you like cash or cheque? I choose you cause you were the first I saw. And you don't pay me. Drunktos does. :kz: | 2011-01-02 19:52:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| I choose you cause you were the first I saw. And you don't pay me. Drunktos does. :kz: Peanuts for all then, just keep off my beer | 2011-01-02 19:58:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754 |
| its nice to come back to lbpc and see all these new things | 2011-01-02 20:11:00 Author: Voodeedoo  Posts: 724 |
| Testing, what treasures does my stuff hold? Oooh, tasty! I forgot I had hearts ...and levels. Maybe I'll actually make more now. | 2011-01-02 21:28:00 Author: Leather-Monkey  Posts: 2266 |
| Sweet! Keep up the good work! | 2011-01-02 22:09:00 Author: Kody59527  Posts: 121 |
| Mine doesn't show yet, since I just signed in to the real LBP.Me for the first time. Time to start playing LBP1 again, and prepare for LBP2, methinks. Really great update though. | 2011-01-02 22:33:00 Author: KlawwTheClown  Posts: 1106 |
| Mine doesn't show yet, since I just signed in to the real LBP.Me for the first time. epare for LBP2, methinks. You can force update it by going into your profile and saving the "changes", even if there were none, or so a Mod said, anyway. | 2011-01-02 22:41:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578 |
| Hmmm, I can't really see the good thing about seeing how many hearts people have. I mean all you have to do to get them is to make some mainstream levels and boost them up, which is ridiculusly easy. A member which have around 3000 hearts will surely be taken more seriously then a member with around 30 of them, just because he's mainstream. Or maybe you'd think a member with 3000 hearts IS mainstream and not take this person seriously and so on. Surely people should be judged upon their behaviour and not the amount of hearts they have? It just feels uneccesairy if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, these new features are fantastic and the staff did a incredible job, but this feature to see how many hearts people have feels...meh for me. Err-herr I have not read through all these pages so people might've already discussed this matter, sorry if you have, I'm a lazy sacker! EDIT. Yeah I looked back a bit now and Nuclearfish basicly said this on page 4. | 2011-01-02 22:52:00 Author: Mnniska  Posts: 531 |
| How much of a grey area is this? Sack book got closed down doing much the same thing. I really don't want my data displayed here like that. I signed for my data to be used by the PSN etc etc, not some third party site surely?? | 2011-01-02 22:59:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754 |
| Have to say that I agree with Nuclearfish on this one. While technically it is very impressive, I just don't see how such a feature benefits the site and/or the users that much. How is such information relevant to posting on the site? All I can see it serving to do is help sway peoples opinions on that particular post and lead to unnecessary boasting/arguments about heart count. It seems to be going against what a lot of LBPC is about. Isn't the reason that the post counts aren't shown below our username because it helps take the emphasise off rankings and elitism? Surely this is just another (more volatile) version of a post count? I don't really see any major advantage from it, yet it could potentially open up a lot of disadvantages. With it being so similar to a post count, which is purposely hidden on this site, I can't help but think that the powers that be have been blinded by it being something cool and new, and wanting to try and implement it, regardless of how much substance it will bring. There's nothing terrible in that, (a lot of my levels suffer from it ) but I just can't see how it is beneficial to the users in anyway whatsoever. I can see it creating a lot more cleaning up for the mods though | 2011-01-02 22:59:00 Author: jackofcourse  Posts: 1494 |
| How much of a grey area is this? Sack book got closed down doing much the same thing. I really don't want my data displayed here like that. I signed for my data to be used by the PSN etc etc, not some third party site surely?? It's just showing information that is publically available online so there shouldn't be an issue with it being related to the PSN. If you hid it on your LBP.me profile it wouldn't be shown here, unlike Sackbook where it was taking data from the actual game itself | 2011-01-02 23:11:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494 |
| People already kind of have reps that get 'em a thousand 'thanks' for no real reason. Like you could post "lol" in a thread and 40 people would thank it, even if they don't know what you're laughing at or why. I see some advantage to it, 'cause i was gone for so long that i sometimes don't even know someone i talk to all the time has 20 levels and major fan counts. if i had just gotten here i'd probably click on you to see what i've been missing out on. but yeah, it can also make ppl predisposed to you. they can go in supportive and not think otherwise, or go in pessimistic and leave thinking "i don't see what the big deal is" and be harsher than they would have. it's always been like that with star ratings too. anyway i saw that locked topic about huge names and would like to request even huger names. I'd also like font size to increase based on exp that i can spend on letters. That way I can use all my exp to make the Z in my name cover half the screen | 2011-01-02 23:17:00 Author: Unknown User |
| It's just showing information that is publically available online so there's no issue with it being related to the PSN, as far as I'm aware If you hid it on your LBP.me profile it wouldn't be shown here, unlike Sackbook where it was taking data from the actual game itself. Ok smarty pants We need a fishing rod, lager, a dressing gown and a chicken to sort this mess out. | 2011-01-02 23:18:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754 |
| LBP.me integration is awesome, being able to look at a list of published levels right away makes things much easier, so thanks for that But, I really have to agree with some people here, the heart count shouldn't be there. It is basically there to say how popular the creator is and as we all (should) know, that is not the case in LBP. A creator can easily get more hearts if they really want to, or a creator can make really good levels but happen to publish them so that they won't get to the cool pages, hence not receiving too many hearts. This leads to my point, the heart system is far from good in LBP and I don't think we want to have such a system on LBPC. Also, here on LBPC we are all individuals, not everyone is a good creator but everyone can be popular here. I think we should leave LBP "rank" to LBP and stay with LBPC XP and rep here on this site. | 2011-01-02 23:24:00 Author: napero7  Posts: 1653 |
| Gruntos has a point though. maybe make it something you can choose to display here, like age or location is on some sites. that way he can have it viewed on lbpme but not lbpc. then disabling it can be the cool thing to do cause like you're to cool to show off | 2011-01-02 23:25:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Well looking back at this page most of the people with alot of creator hearts also have alot of rep bars there are some exceptions, what I'm saying is they are basically the same and rep has been here ever since I joined and I've had no problem with it so I don't see what the problem is with showing the amount of hearts we have is. Rep Bars on LBPC=Hearts on LBP They are in essence the same thing. There is a way of stopping showing it although it takes alot of bother. Make a new psn and don't play LBP1 on it then set it as your psn on here. | 2011-01-02 23:28:00 Author: MasterCreator Posts: 464 |
| Yes I must agree with others on This. (Although I don't have this) I really think it's a bright idea for LBPC and really advanced now but , I really don't like the idea of showing hearts because it could, cause into varius of fights (Like a My Horse is bigger than your house) Type of arugument. Do mean to be arugmentetive or anything im just speaking my opinion, And may cause to you need around 200 hearts to join or your not famous So you can't join that. You see where I'm going ? | 2011-01-02 23:30:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I think the primary complaint here is based upon the fact that people remember how much emphasis get put on how famous you are, or repped or how much xp, or how many posts you have to equate to bragging rights and the fact that even though it's ridiculous and complete nonsense, that emphasis exists and the social bias that it leads to does exist. We've seen it, over and over, it's just what happens within this community. Any logical or rational argument as to why it shouldn't pales into insignificance copared to the painfully obvious empirical evidence that it does happen. displaying personal heart counts next to every single post made gives more opportunity for perceived elitism and differentiation betweeen equal members of the community, whilst providing the positive tangible benefits of..... Well, unless i've missed something, there is no tangible benefit to a community-centric website. the whole thing is, as others have mentioned, an impressive feature... But is it born out of enhancing the community, or born out of beiing shiny and impressive? note: I see myself as an individual member of the community first, and member of site staff second.... This is my personal viewpoint.... No one ever told me I had to tow the party line when I signed up for mod duties ;-) | 2011-01-02 23:36:00 Author: rtm223  Posts: 6497 |
| Hey fellas, I just had a chat with CC. Later tonight he will put in an additional setting to disable the new functionality with levels and hearts being displayed. We honestly didn't expect this sort of fallout, given that putting your PSN allows anyone to find your stats anyways. At any rate, you should have the option to disable it later. In the meantime, you can remove your PSN from your postbit or add something else to it to confuse the search query. | 2011-01-02 23:37:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| But I like to have the amount of levels visible, that is a good feature. Amount of hearts on the other hand is just... well, read my last post | 2011-01-02 23:43:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
| Lol, I've just seen Comphermc's last post on this (and thanks for re-considering in part, guys) but as I've already typed my thoughts out, I'm going to post them anyway - after all it's probably the closest I've come to being critical in all my 18 months plus on the site and it probably won't happen again for another 18 months so... Whilst it looks fantastic and I really appreciate all the hard work that has gone into producing this new feature I tend to agree with those people expressing some doubts about it. I know that the same stats are available in game and on lbp.me but personally, other than realising that big name creators have “a lot” of hearts and others obviously have fewer, I never give them a second’s thought there. By featuring them on this site the actual detail of the numbers is given much greater prominence and, as Nuclearfish pointed out, in a context where those figures should not really be relevant. Also, just reading this thread has me made me realise once again what a random and anomalous thing heart count can be. Just to take one example, FrogBoy (apologies to him for using him in this way btw!), who has been a tireless playtester and dedicated giver of feedback in the Level Showcase, and is therefore a real contributor to LBP, only has 6 hearts. It would give a totally false impression of his value as a member if anyone were actually to pay attention to his heart count. I hope, and partly believe too, that people focussing on heart count will just be a nine day wonder thing following its introduction here, but I can’t help feeling that giving it such prominence risks sending out the wrong signals about the value which should be attached to it. It just doesn’t seem quite right for this site imho. Lass | 2011-01-02 23:45:00 Author: shropshirelass  Posts: 1455 |
| The change has been implemented. Go to Settings, and find Edit Profile on the left. There is an option to disable lbp.me integration on LBPCentral. Also, Grant and Jack, and anyone else... I don't care how many hearts you have, stay on topic. I went through and vetted some posts, so if you don't see a post, that's likely why. | 2011-01-03 00:26:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| I would like to have the level count visible, but I'll just disable that now since it doesn't really matter. You can look at my levels anyway. EDIT: It looks like that gave me the stats of comphermc, lol EDIT2: Apparently it gives me the stats of the poster above EDIT3: Until that is fixed, I'm putting it back on. EDIT4: Works now | 2011-01-03 00:33:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
| EDIT2: Apparently it gives me the stats of the poster above This appears to be the case. Looking into it now. | 2011-01-03 00:42:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Gruntos has a point though. maybe make it something you can choose to display here, like age or location is on some sites. that way he can have it viewed on lbpme but not lbpc. then disabling it can be the cool thing to do cause like you're to cool to show off About as cool as everyone else that I see has disabled it. But you pick me out. If people want my info they can click on my lbp.me profile and plainly see it there, along with levels and the rest of my stuff. I'd rather not have it there for the minority to judge me by one glance, which, I'm afraid these days on this site is more than likely to happen. Sorry if that's "to cool" for you. I'm actually rather ****** at your comment, I thought you knew me better than that. | 2011-01-03 00:44:00 Author: GruntosUK Posts: 1754 |
| At least now people will finally shut up about Sehven and jeffcu's buttons Heh, that must be why CC never added their mod badges, because he knew they'd just be taken away again. Actually, they did have them for about 24 hours, before they were cruelly taken away. ...mine doesn't work.... No LBP.me stuff under my name.Mine doesn't show yet... You have to set your lbp.me profile to public, which you can either do on lbp.me, or via the LBP in-game privacy settings menu. After you change that, you have to go to your Edit Profile (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/profile.php?do=editprofile) page, and click "Save Changes" to force the system to flush the cached data for your PSN. The only problem is people could use someone else's PSN to make it look like they have loads of hearts. Well, think of it as a loser-detector. If a user is so obsessed about hearts that they'd put in someone else's PSN, then you know they're exactly the sort of user you should ignore. ...I'm basically worthless... One for the quote archive methinks. ...I'd rather my information wasn't displayed (it doesn't mean a thing to me), regardless of what my LBP.me settings are... Maybe it doesn't mean anything to you, but maybe others are curious? I signed for my data to be used by the PSN etc etc, not some third party site surely?? I think if you actually read the PSN ToCs, you pretty much signed away your soul... and your beer. Oh, and you still owe me a beer. The only thing I worry of is that some may use "hearts" as a form of rank. ...I really don't think hearts should be displayed. Isn't that basically ranking people? By that, I'm assuming you don't mean that you will use the heart counts to "rank" people, but you fear that others will. Surely if everyone is of that same opinion then there's no problem, you're just all suffering from the same delusion that there's anyone out there who actually cares about it, or anyone of any consequence. Why are you so bothered by what other people think of other people? Is this not akin to the "nanny state" mentality, by which, if something most commonly used for good, could potentially be used for evil, then it should be conisdered evil, of which a completely ridiculous example follows:- What if you were a politician discussing whether or not to pass a law stating that sandwiches should be illegal because a child might accidentally poke their eye out with one, not even considering that some people may enjoy eating sandwiches. Would you support that? I'd like to believe that most of our users would find some use for the system, other than a childish "I've got more hearts than you, therefore I'm better", and isn't it a little elitist and patronizing to assume that others will only see it that way? Perhaps some people appreciate the ability to keep track of their stats via LBPC? At the end of the day, it's all pretty meaningless anyway, or as Gravel put more succinctly... ...It's how 'we see ourselves' that matters... | 2011-01-03 00:51:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Letting everyone decide what to display is the best thing to do! Thanks for being so quick and reactive CC and guys! It will just avoid pages of arguments and drama... | 2011-01-03 00:56:00 Author: dajdaj03 Posts: 1486 |
| OK, we have fixed the glitch - you can now fully enable/disable display of LBP.me information independent of LBP.me itself. Also, we've got plans to provide more control over how hearts display, but that's as far as this is going to go - like any of the other "values" tied to your postbit, heart count is just a number. So far, none of those numbers or stats have corrupted the community yet. I think we'll be fine, honestly. | 2011-01-03 00:58:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| About as cool as everyone else that I see has disabled it. But you pick me out. If people want my info they can click on my lbp.me profile and plainly see it there, along with levels and the rest of my stuff. I'd rather not have it there for the minority to judge me by one glance, which, I'm afraid these days on this site is more than likely to happen. Sorry if that's "to cool" for you. I'm actually rather ****** at your comment, I thought you knew me better than that. uh i think you took it totally the wrong way, gruntos. i was just poking fun at heart display in general and was agreeing with you. why would i attack you, if i was going to attack anybody? you're literally my bro, bro. | 2011-01-03 01:13:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I find it ironic that hearts are the subject of all the fighting. | 2011-01-03 01:15:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| The change has been implemented. Go to Settings, and find Edit Profile on the left. There is an option to disable lbp.me integration on LBPCentral.. Great news on the option to disable. Keeps the feature that you guys have worked so hard on but ensures that everybody has an option that they're happy with and how they wish to share their data on LBPC Also, Grant and Jack, and anyone else... I don't care how many hearts you have, stay on topic. For people who complain about a sense of elitism, you tend to act as if the rules don't apply to you. I went through and vetted some posts, so if you don't see a post, that's likely why. Complain about a sense of elitism? Really? Where did I do that? I voiced an opinion, for the good the site (imo), on a new feature that could potentially lead to elements of elitism. If constructive criticism is now 'complaining' then we're heading for troubled times. I will concede that my 'heck yes you'll bow down to me fool, I have my hearts than you!' could be considered off topic, however seeing as you had just posted and solved the debate by informing us that a disable option will be added and everyone wins, I saw no harm in a little light hearted joke that this option was being added because I disagreed with the full on integration and have more hearts than you. (Explained jokes don't work half as well, do they?) But hey-ho 'rules are rules', I suppose However there was a lot of posts there with people replying to each other that were geniunely funny and served a purpose in keeping the debate fun and spirited (the horse/house stuff), while not solely being off topic. If those kinds of posts are to be deleted then I daresay you guys have a lot more mod work on your hands. Such a totalitarian approach feels rather defensive. We all appreicate and realise a lot hard work has gone into this feature, and thanks to this debate (and the admins handy work) the feature has now been improved even further. All is well on LBPC, hissy fits permitting | 2011-01-03 01:19:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494 |
| Being able to turn LBP.me off is good but even though this sounds nitpicky, it's important: Would it be possible to have the link to LBP.me and level count visible but have the hearts hidden here on LBPC. I think that would be the most ideal solution | 2011-01-03 01:27:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
| Oh god. Now its its going to be the case if you dont switch the thing off your just showing off. I dont think the mods can win this one either way they go. Personally i couldnt vive a monkies whats stats are put up and i only really judge people by what they actually say.... But now i know people will be thinking "hes only saying that cos hes got plenty of hearts" so its pointless even giving my opinion on this one. Let me know what the right thing to do is when your done and ill just follow acordingly. | 2011-01-03 01:27:00 Author: wexfordian  Posts: 1904 |
| I don't think anyone is showing off by not disabling hearts, it's just that I don't like to have them visible. Showing off would be someone actually commenting about the heart count like you guys have jokingly in this thread. But of course, there are many people here who think differently and maybe you are right about some people there, wex, unfortunately. | 2011-01-03 01:37:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
| I find it ironic that hearts are the subject of all the fighting. I honestly wonder if that fact that MM chose a heart symbol as a token to represent being a good creator is partly to blame. Had they selected something more apt, like a paintbrush or a wrench or something, whether there'd be as much contention. Feels like the difference between... "I've got more hearts, therefore I'm more loved." ...and... "I've got more wrenches, therefore I'm more... erm... wut?"  So, the moral of this story is, it's all MM's fault. *cough* Personally i couldnt vive a monkies whats stats are put up and i only really judge people by what they actually say.... Exactly the right attitude IMO. And he has the most hearts of anyone who's posted so far, so it must be true. | 2011-01-03 01:40:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
"I've got more wrenches, therefore I'm more... erm... wut?" Wrench me and I'll wrench your level? W4W? | 2011-01-03 01:43:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| Well I have enough hearts not to fell 'inferior" or "jealous', and not enough hearts for people to be jealous, biased towards me,or thinking I'm showing off... Good,.. so I can say i really don't see the problem here, it's just an additional information like the PSN, the .me link, the number of level etc... And I don't consider it as irrelevant as we are still on a site dedicated to LBP, and this is an LBP information... right...? Now CC find the solution so that everyone is free to choose, which is great, but even if it was not the case, most of the people here are smart and I'm pretty sure it would have not change anything on how they react to each others... except few exeptions... but why give those few so much credit... Anyway, this is just my humble 3am opinion | 2011-01-03 01:45:00 Author: dajdaj03 Posts: 1486 |
| Personally i couldnt vive a monkies whats stats are put up and i only really judge people by what they actually say.... Exactly the right attitude IMO 100% agree, as does any other rational person. However,looking beyond the ideal, this site must cater for the irrational as well, and that's where the problems may come in | 2011-01-03 01:50:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494 |
| Also, Grant and Jack, and anyone else... I don't care how many hearts you have, stay on topic. I went through and removed some really fun posts, so if you don't see a post, that's likely why. Just out of curiosity, how many hearts do you need to go off topic? Also, isn't there a way to shut off just the hearts? Wouldn't that fix everything? I personally still would like people to be able to visit my lbp.me profile through my side thingy and visit my page and queue my levels and stuff, but I don't necessarily need to have the hearts shown. I don't want people to think I'm bragging, because i know for a fact that I'm not like that. I didn't even THINK about that sort of thing when I saw the integration. I just thought, "oh, cool" ... but it's true... people do take things the wrong way sometimes. It's a shame, really. | 2011-01-03 01:53:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| This is a neat feature. ...I guess I'd better get some hearts make some levels! EDIT: But seriously, the new feature is good; I think that we need integration like this to keep pace with LBP.me and it's web integration. EDIT 2: Honestly, I don't care how many hearts people have; have you seen those terrible levels on the cool levels pages that have thousands of hearts? If the "creators" of those levels have even a fraction of those hearts, it makes hearts less valuable. Of course, it's not like anyone here gets hearts like that... Basically, don't get upset. | 2011-01-03 01:54:00 Author: Stoicrow Posts: 276 |
| Wrench me and I'll wrench your level I remember Rtm saying something similar to me in London actually, but the last word wasn't 'level'... But yeah, I do agree that it being a 'heart' and all the heart like connotations may have added to the problem! Let's ask Mm to change it to cheese! 'I cheesed your level!' Oh no wait... | 2011-01-03 02:01:00 Author: jackofcourse Posts: 1494 |
| Maybe hearts can be replaced by cats. I would cat someone if they catted my level. Most definitely. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/kitten.jpg me and I'll http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/haleybrooks/kitten.jpg your level! | 2011-01-03 02:02:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| Whoa! Amazing new feature! LBPc does feel much vibrant now ...But it's not working for me Everything is all enabled on LBPC and LBP.me | 2011-01-03 02:09:00 Author: Chump  Posts: 1712 |
| Make mine pizza's. If someone gives me a pizza then I know they have shown themselves to give the very best. I really don't care either way. I mean if anyone is concerned, there are the site stats to get all googly eyed. Others can simply turn off their public option and to only show them to logged in PSN or chose to show nothing at all. | 2011-01-03 02:29:00 Author: jwwphotos  Posts: 11383 |
| Alright, you now have the ability to hide heart display via Settings > Edit Profile. However, as a result of the new feature, we had to merge two settings into one, so anyone who opted into hiding their data the first time around will have to do so one more time. We've got one more setting coming in the next 30 minutes - an hour that should cover anyone else who may still be unsatisfied. I'll be back soon with the news on that. | 2011-01-03 02:32:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| Great feature! But, I totally agree on comphermc on this one. Though judging by this thread, I find it ironic how some people with a high heart count are against this while people with a low heart count are mostly for. It's just numbers guys, I think the people with a lower heart count know that. Hearts are tricky as everybody have different requires for giving them, I know I do, for example, the level could be the most technically graphically amazing, but when that hinders the framerate (I hate a low framerate) the whole way through, causing the level to come to a crawl, which is never really enjoyable, I won't heart the level. Others heart bomb survivals, because how they added some stickers to a copied level. But lets scale back on how one receives a heart. Someone going to your profile, and hitting the hearted button, all because they liked or loved your work and that is the highest way of showing it to you. I liked getting hearted, because that shows me my work is liked or really loved... I just hate receiving the blank friend requests that come with it. | 2011-01-03 02:33:00 Author: PPp_Killer  Posts: 449 |
| ...this site must cater for the irrational as well... Wouldn't it be simpler to just ban them? Also, isn't there a way to shut off just the hearts? 'Tis being worked on as we speak... in fact, in the course of writing this, I think it's already been added. You now have three options: show all, hide hearts only, or hide all. Problem with that is that people who are both very nosy, and very lazy, would have to actually have to click the mouse button to find out how many hearts you have. Why would you want to cause them all this undue pain? Wouldn't that fix everything? Not really. If the fundamental argument against the current system is it being used as a ranking system, only disabling heart counts for all users would address it, but we're hoping that this option, and an additional option to hide other peoples' data from you, will be sufficient. I suspect part of the problem is the typical resistence to change that many have. I mean, look how much people freaked out when we just changed the font on the user title. *cough* | 2011-01-03 02:37:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Thank you, this is now exactly like I hoped it to be EDIT: Except for the fact that my hearts are showing... EDIT2: I missed the personal and global settings, I think the descriptions for those are swapped. At least this works now | 2011-01-03 02:39:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653 |
| @Aya Its a shame you have to go to show your being light hearted/ Jokey. I guess it shows how this community can overreact. I think the ability to hide it is important. This site already has hide avatars and things like that so its kinda just a necessary requirement for a forum to run smoothly. | 2011-01-03 02:45:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| ...But it's not working for me Everything is all enabled on LBPC and LBP.me After you make any changes that would affect the display of user data, you have to go to your Edit Profile (http://www.lbpcentral.com/forums/profile.php?do=editprofile) page, and click "Save Changes" to force the system to flush the cached data for your PSN. However, I just did it for you. | 2011-01-03 02:49:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Well, I still like it. I just think it's cool because I can have a link to anyone's levels right there and see how many levels they have. I don't really care if people ignore me because I don't have a lot of hearts. I chose to have my info available to everyone on lbp.me, and so I really don't care if anyone here sees it. Great job to everyone who worked on this new feature. | 2011-01-03 03:00:00 Author: Kitkasumass Posts: 494 |
| Alright, one more feature for everyone: there's now a setting called "LBP.me - Global Data Display" (right under "LBP.me - Personal Data Display") in Settings > Edit Profile that controls how the entire site looks regarding LBP.me data, right down to whether or not you want users' heart count to display for you. It's a setting that only affects your experience, but I still think there are some that would make use of it regardless. Hopefully you guys find you like it. It's fairly powerful, especially when used in tandem with the personal data setting. It's worth noting that the global setting will NOT override personal data settings - if someone has decided to hide their data, it will respect that preference first. Also, I tweaked the way levels show up for those that aren't showing heart count - following the number of levels is the word "levels" to help make it fit in a bit more. If it sounds strange, I understand, but try disabling heart display globally as a test and see what I mean - it's pretty nifty, IMO. Hopefully this clears up any issues anyone had with the data grabbing we're doing. Enjoy. | 2011-01-03 03:22:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| Also, isn't there a way to shut off just the hearts? Wouldn't that fix everything? Not really. If the fundamental argument against the current system is it being used as a ranking system, only disabling heart counts for all users would address it, but we're hoping that this option, and an additional option to hide other peoples' data from you, will be sufficient. Well, one option that hasn't really been discussed is to keep it all available to everyone, but make it less visible - make it a hover or profile-menu option. Then we could all still see the info if we want to, we can link to people's LBP.me profiles, etc., but the immediate, in-your-face nature that concerns so many here would be gone. I'm personally not opposed to any of it (and probably won't change my personal options)... my concern was community perception. EDIT: Just read CC's newest update. I can't imagine anything more will be (or should be) done at this point concerning this. (CC - Aya: You're doin' a great job, guys - hope none of this is taken personally!). | 2011-01-03 03:26:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878 |
| Great site, Great update. Thanks for all the hard work, you really have made a superb resource and an amazing thing for all gadders. | 2011-01-03 04:30:00 Author: EinRobot  Posts: 739 |
| Well, I guess we'll see how this all turns out... Yeah, whatever I guess, the Heart system is still an unfixable mess of sorts either way. | 2011-01-03 05:15:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578 |
| Awesome! Great idea | 2011-01-03 05:47:00 Author: TheBlackKnight22  Posts: 695 |
| Thanks for the update guys. But one thing is bugging me, you can't show a lbp.me link without displaying the # of levels you have. I don't even like displaying my level count (as many are not even levels) + all the stuff about hearts + thinking about heart:level ratio, etc..makes me want to delete my locked backups. Where as before this business, we had a handy lbp.me link, which was perfect. If somone really wanted to know their stats, they would just click on it. Maybe I am too picky. I'll just put a link in my sig. BTW, I just noticed! The green rep bars have been positioned further below our avatars! Looks much better! | 2011-01-03 07:59:00 Author: midnight_heist Posts: 2513 |
| Aya: This change was part of the lbp.me integration. If you still think the fonts are too large, comment in the announcment thread. Thanks! Locked. Yes, yes I do. Please let me disable titles. (And everything else except the name. Pretty please.) PS: I also agree with everything Nuclearfish, jackofcourse and others have said about hearts being displayed. | 2011-01-03 08:02:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193 |
| @Rauland's post i don't have a lot of hearts but i have enough. you're right that it's just numbers and numbers don't tell stories (except in the Matrix)... ironically I would say only 5% of my hearts are legitimate uh 'fans' who still play lbp, would actually check for new levels and love me long time. The first hundred are probably from 2008 when a full level that didn't break and wasn't made of dark matter earned you a heart. 400 are probably from when I had my Contra level out which even I don't like, spent no time on and deleted in 2010. The only ones I think are legit I got from people randomly finding Free At Last or something when I wasn't even playing LBP for a year. To me seeing the # here just shows me someone's really prolific, tries hard and has been putting in work a long time... 'cause I know LBPC'rs don't spam or scam to pad it out. I deleted most of my old levels and backed them up, so a few hundred hearts seem completely unreflective of what I want to show or be 'known' for.. | 2011-01-03 09:05:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Ill always love you long time ninja.. Now wheres my five dolla? | 2011-01-03 11:12:00 Author: wexfordian Posts: 1904 |
| Impressive. Nice work on getting data from LBP.me like that. | 2011-01-03 12:33:00 Author: alexbull_uk  Posts: 1287 |
| Nice update on this awesome site, lbp.me is cool for spy your "friends" lol | 2011-01-03 12:38:00 Author: I-Snow-I Posts: 18 |
| Thanks for these new options. I've removed hearts, and already everything seems much nicer. However, as I think someone mentioned yesterday, it still seems to me like you added these cool features just because you could, without questioning whether you should. I still don't see how there is any benefit displaying hearts, and in this whole thread I've not seen one person make a decent argument for why it's so awesome. Yes, I've changed the settings on MY profile to ignore it now, but it's not me I'm concerned about. The negatives still outweigh the positives IMO. And the thing I most had a problem with was how big and in-your-face the heart count was. Displaying it right under your username like that in a big bold number makes it seem like heart count is significant here. And as I've said before, hearts have nothing to do with activity here. The impression I got was that the heart count is now the most important statistic, much more important than join date, reputation etc. Not what you wanted I'm sure. Which is why this: Well, one option that hasn't really been discussed is to keep it all available to everyone, but make it less visible - make it a hover or profile-menu option. Then we could all still see the info if we want to, we can link to people's LBP.me profiles, etc., but the immediate, in-your-face nature that concerns so many here would be gone. I'm personally not opposed to any of it (and probably won't change my personal options)... my concern was community perception. Is a great suggestion. Although I still think removing it altogether is the best thing to do. Unless somebody can convince me why it's so good in the first place. | 2011-01-03 12:52:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927 |
| This site feels so 2011 now. | 2011-01-03 13:03:00 Author: KQuinn94Z  Posts: 1758 |
| yeah It does seem simple. Two-ish questions. 1. What good can come of showing hearts on LBPC? How exactly is it improving our site experience? 2. What harm can come of showing hearts on LBPC? How exactly is it hindering our site experience? | 2011-01-03 13:14:00 Author: EinRobot Posts: 739 |
| Although I still think removing it altogether is the best thing to do. Unless somebody can convince me why it's so good in the first place. Sounds like a case for inspector gadget... 28974 http://www.flickr.com/photos/57775084@N02/5320097100/ | 2011-01-03 13:17:00 Author: MasterCreator Posts: 464 |
| Thanks for these new options. I've removed hearts, and already everything seems much nicer. However, as I think someone mentioned yesterday, it still seems to me like you added these cool features just because you could, without questioning whether you should. I still don't see how there is any benefit displaying hearts, and in this whole thread I've not seen one person make a decent argument for why it's so awesome. Yes, I've changed the settings on MY profile to ignore it now, but it's not me I'm concerned about. The negatives still outweigh the positives IMO. And the thing I most had a problem with was how big and in-your-face the heart count was. Displaying it right under your username like that in a big bold number makes it seem like heart count is significant here. And as I've said before, hearts have nothing to do with activity here. The impression I got was that the heart count is now the most important statistic, much more important than join date, reputation etc. Not what you wanted I'm sure. Which is why this: Is a great suggestion. Although I still think removing it altogether is the best thing to do. Unless somebody can convince me why it's so good in the first place. Hadn't stepped in the conversation until now, because I had no idea about which was my position on the matter. However, this seems to me like the best solution possible; displaying hearts, but making so it's only a click away from the post itself. I know that many changes have already been made, but this feels like the most sensible solution to me. On the other hand, I understand that CC and Aya have worked their butts off over this, and that, hells, they want people to see it. I actually want people to see it too. I feel kind of patriotic regarding LBPC and I'd like to brag about having this feature as much as I can. However, I really can't see it causing problems, specially in a subconscious way. Not many people will think "Oh, hey, he has more hearts, therefore he MUST be right" but I can even imagine myself taking people more seriously depending on their hearts. Shame for me, really. xXFroggyboyXx is one of the most active, friendly and sexiest members of the community, and he only has 6 hearts. And I could imagine people not taking him that seriously because of it, even if not in a intended way. Besides, another thing that should be looked is the default setting of this hearts thing. If there's someone who could be easily influenced by all this, it's newcomers. Newcomers know no one on the site, and they'll have people's hearts displayed right under their noses without knowing that there is even a chance to disable it, or without even realizing that it'd be benefitial for them to disable it. I wouldn't want them to base their impressions of the number of hearts, but it might happen. What I'd suggest it's to disable the hearts as a default option. If they get involved enough with LBPC, they'll soon know of this feature and be able to decide if they want to make use or it of not. That, or what Vortex has said: putting the heart count on the profile page. That way, you can easily get to know about it, without having to switch from profile options or anything. I can imagine myself being curious about how many hearts somebody has, but I can also imagine myself being influenced more by very hearted people when they post. And I can imagine almost all newcomers being influenced by that too. By putting the heart count on the profile page, we'd get the best of both worlds: the feature would be very easily accessible without being "slammed" on our faces whenever we read somebody's post. | 2011-01-03 14:46:00 Author: Keldur  Posts: 628 |
| The option to integrate lbp.me is shown during registration, so you don't need to worry about the newcomers misunderstanding that it's optional, and it is technically off by default for new users. Now, I know that there are a few people who are vocally against the new feature, which is true for anything. If we keep it as is, don't think that we are ignoring your concerns, just understand that there are also many people who have come on here to laud the integration. Also, understand that people tend to more vocal when in opposition of change, because there's really not much more to be said in favor of it than: Impressive. Nice work on getting data from LBP.me like that. Awesome! Great idea ...for example. I can assure you there'd be quite a fallout if the option was removed. Keep the suggestions coming in, but understand that they are suggestions. | 2011-01-03 16:25:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| I started to read this thread very slowely, but the further I read.. the more frustrated I got. First of all, Aya and CC do not deserve this discussion what looks more like a flamewar dressed up. O_o - Since when does heart count equals eliteness? o_o - On that note.. That "Zomg, Elitez0rness" crap should stop. o_O - Why are the better creators the ones who are complaining about this (the most)? O_O - Why are people reacting on this like its the "Bill of rights" debate. And I thought I was a creature of habbit. Things change?, the future is now?, this is not 2010?, Evolution is manditory?, You cannot stop natural growth?. forums change, they update, new stuff will be added.. some of you might like, some of it you might not like.. I get the discussion I do, but I do not get how this discussion could get out of hand, a lot of people here are acting like "teh end id nigh!!" no its not, there are new features. and from what I have read, you can enable and disable them now. (so why the fuzz) Even n00bs and newcomers will probably understand that someone with 100k hearts leaving a comment like "omg that was epic" or "I broak teh level!" means nothing compared to someone with only a few hearts who leaves a 10 page review about the ins and outs of your level. Heck, if you think "Hearts" will cause "Classes" you should have been there at the begin of interwebs forums.. And complain about post-count as well before it was implemented. Again, Aya and CC put a lot of their own time into this, they even left a little of their souls into this. And instead of causing a giant discussion of whats wrong and what not for all the right and wrong reasons.. You could put down a simple suggestion. Imho most of you are overreacting, Hearts are nothing, playcounts mean crap, and faces mean even less.What really counts is: The friends you make on lbpc. The fun you have on lbpc. And the recognition you get when you put a lot of efford on your work (may it be posts, levels, contraptions, contests and more) but looking at lbpc from a distance the last few months.. It seems less about fun, respect and positive recognition. I see more and more complaints and flames flying across members and even towards mods and people who earned MM's and LBPC's recognition because of hard work, a lot of efford and trying to add to the positive vibe that lbpc/lbp is supposed to be. I admit, Even I said to myself and clay that its sometimes unfair that rtm/comph and the other guys got into the community bash, or are working on other lbp2 promotional stuff.. or for that matter.. have lots of hearts, -ratings and what not.But thats only because I am jealous and I think thats the case of most people here. Jealousy is ugly. i better walk away now, else I might go oldsk00l luos_Desruc on ppl. and on that note, I got rid of my heartcount.. Im starting over. I dont care about hearts. I do care about lbpc. /walks away semi-angry | 2011-01-03 17:03:00 Author: Luos_83  Posts: 2136 |
| It's not my place to say, but could we lock the thread now perhaps? I think that last post is a good ending to it all, and I don't want it to get swallowed by more complaints and so forth... It gives you something to think about. (Oh and can I just say? I like my hearts because I like the feeling that I earned them. I like the knowledge that each one represents a person who likes something I've done - and yeah, I'm proud of that. But it shouldn't change people's perception of things, or of the rank of somebody else. I mean, look at David Cameron (PM of UK). He got "the most votes", but he's still an utter ****) EDIT: Okay, I've thought about it, and I wanted to add some more. Perhaps this is something that I've wanted to say for a while, and isn't about this thread in particular. But I want to say it anyways. If it's not relevant - I'm sorry. Every time somebody tries to do something nice, it usually backfires. Let's have a review shall we? Competitions - e.g. Crown winning - These are supposed to be fun. People are up for it before winners are announced - and then when they don't win, people complain. (Not just here though) BETA - MM tried to do something nice. They wanted US to tell them what we thought, and ideas we had. Complaints all round from people who didn't get chosen. You can't please everyone - Billions of people love LBP. Everyone can't be in the BETA. New Features on LBPC - This - I guess not so much of a problem. But still, Aya and CC worked hard to make this work. They responded quickly to people's concerns - but some people, it feels like they just want to crap over everything. (By the way, Well done CC and Aya!) Most of the features have been addressed here, so lets leave it at that. MM Picks, Spotlights - We wanted a better cool pages, right? Well, people at MM and here at LBPC have been using THIER time to find great levels for us to play. But what do we do? We complain that OUR levels didn't make it. So what? There are Billions on LBP levels on the servers - all of them aren't going to be found. All of them won't be picked. Just be grateful that people are working hard to give you good levels to play. Or would you rather be back at the cool pages, where it's all overthrown by rubbish levels (Mostly). So what do we do? Just stop giving people nice shiny new things? Remember - this is a game. It's supposed to be fun. | 2011-01-03 17:18:00 Author: standby250 Posts: 1113 |
| Jealousy is ugly. It's referred to as "the green eyed monster" in literature for a reason, I guess. | 2011-01-03 17:43:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| Thanks for these new options. I've removed hearts, and already everything seems much nicer. Then why do I still see nuclear's hearts? That was 5 hours ago. | 2011-01-03 18:04:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578 |
| I can still see my hearts, too, and I clicked the option to shut them off to everyone. Unless I'm misunderstanding how it works. ... | 2011-01-03 18:08:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| Hearts are nothing, playcounts mean crap, and faces mean even less. What really counts is: The friends you make on lbpc. The fun you have on lbpc. And the recognition you get when you put a lot of efford on your work (may it be posts, levels, contraptions, contests and more) ... I dont care about hearts. I do care about lbpc. I completely agree. Hearts are unimportant here, which is why I don't think they should be displayed as if they are. Also, regarding Aya and CC, they have done an awesome job, and I do appreciate the hard work they (and everyone else involved) continue to put in to making this community a better place. I'm not critisizing them. But in this case I don't think it makes it a better place, which is why I am expressing these concerns. We're all part of this community and we all want it to be as good as it can be. So as long as the mods are listening to these suggestions I'm happy. | 2011-01-03 18:17:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927 |
| Yay! Another incredible act from LBPCentral. LBPC FTW! | 2011-01-03 18:30:00 Author: LWBear2  Posts: 332 |
| I can still see my hearts, too, and I clicked the option to shut them off to everyone. Unless I'm misunderstanding how it works. ... I cannot see your or Nuclearfish's hearts. | 2011-01-03 18:46:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Yay... Now every one can make fun of my little numbers. | 2011-01-03 18:46:00 Author: jalr2d2  Posts: 256 |
| First of all, Aya and CC do not deserve this discussion what looks more like a flamewar dressed up. Flamewar? Really? What I see is several well written posts talking about the possible drawback of such additions. As Jack said, "If constructive criticism is now 'complaining' then we're heading for troubled times. " We're just talking things out here folks. I cannot see your or Nuclearfish's hearts. I can see them. | 2011-01-03 18:49:00 Author: mrsupercomputer  Posts: 1335 |
| I can also see nuclearfish's hearts. That's weird! | 2011-01-03 18:52:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| I can see nuke's hearts, but not mine And I double checked to see if I showed my hearts, or the lack of them | 2011-01-03 19:04:00 Author: Luos_83 Posts: 2136 |
| I think the necessity (or rather lack hereof) of hearts being displayed so openly have been discussed at great lengths already. However I'm not sure if people noticed, but wildbill1217 (correctly) made the comment a few pages ago, that the site no longer looks that great on the PS3 browser? If this can be fixed again I sure would be a jolly fella EDIT: @ mrsupercomputer, xkappax and Luos_83. Be sure to configure both the Personal- and Global lbp.me settings. I'm pretty sure that's the reason for the discrepancies between what you are observing. @ MasterCreator. The numbers below Nuclearfish' name are a significant series of numbers from the popular tv-show LOST ^^ | 2011-01-03 19:13:00 Author: Slaeden-Bob  Posts: 605 |
| But I just want to hide my hearts. I don't care if I see other people's hearts. Or should I not be doing that? I don't know what the hell I'm doing. | 2011-01-03 19:28:00 Author: xkappax Posts: 2569 |
| Just changed my settings to hide my own hearts but see everyone elses. Nobody's (not even my own) are now hidden. It doesn't seem like the "Hide my hearts" setting is working. EDIT: Same with "Hide everything". The global settings are always overriding the personal settings. | 2011-01-03 19:33:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927 |
| Aww Nuke, you cant hide your heart for us, we all know you are a good feller and you have your heart on the right place Even if you hide it, we know you are a loving and caring person | 2011-01-03 19:37:00 Author: Luos_83 Posts: 2136 |
| No matter how closely we align 'ourselves' with LBP and Mm... we are a different entity altogether. While HEARTs are supposed to count for something in the game... we here at LBPCentral must always remember we love, appreciate, and 'earn' our reputations in a slightly different way-- to what value; an actual HEART, or green blipty-blob, or experience point matters-- is a highly subjective and personal matter that will always differ from individual to individual anyway... While my feelings are mostly ambivalent on the subject... it's fantastic to see so much energy being directed at the site, and from so many different directions and varying viewpoints... let's not lose sight of one overiding truth. LBP.ME integration is integral to our further developing this community. On that I hope we can all agree. So now we have the option, to option... or not to option... What is the question? I originally joined this site to be expoused to LBP creators, processes, and levels, as well as gain some expousure for myself. On this premise LBPC has delivered. But right now, as far as I can tell personally, my latest LBP1 level is receiving more attention from lbp.me than good ol' lbpc. Now it may smack of good ol' selfishness, but I wish we could get back to doing what we do best! Playing LBP and helping each other enjoy this game to its' fullest potential. I think 'that' is the heart of this situation... and that my friends begins in the Level Showcase... not here. This singular glimpse in time is unfortunate... Yes, the hearts probably belong on our profile page... but let's ensure they link to the continued vitality of this site and its' inhabitants.:hrmf: With Fondest Regard, (and apologies from the less self-serving side of my split-personality) Gravel | 2011-01-03 19:56:00 Author: Gravel Posts: 1308 |
| This seems great so far, though it does remind me that I really need to generate more exposure for my levels to get some hearts. :L Thanks, staff. | 2011-01-03 20:33:00 Author: resistance1  Posts: 812 |
| I cannot see your or Nuclearfish's hearts. I find it funny how comphermc, a mod, is the only one who can't see hidden hearts, whereas all us mortals can. The table has turned. | 2011-01-03 21:00:00 Author: Doopz Posts: 5592 |
| Getting so much better all the tiime. Getting better Better Beeteer. song by the beattles was the first thing that popped into my head reading all these comments.. cool feature. Too bad now it shows everyone how amature I am :S | 2011-01-03 21:10:00 Author: mattbru77  Posts: 143 |
| sooooo everyone decided to hide their hearts? | 2011-01-03 21:28:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365 |
| Sorry for the bugs with the settings! There was an issue with vB not inserting data into the database like we had expected it to, so we had to do a little bit of manual labor to get things back on track - but we've tested with different accounts and many different settings combinations, and the issue seems to be solved. You don't have to do anything on your end - the site will pay attention to your preferences now. Also, we've got one more setting for you: you can now move the LBP.me data display from the postbit to the dropdown menu that's invoked when you click on someone's username. The setting only affects how you view the site - we didn't want a user to have to guess if someone's data was hidden or just moved to the dropdown, so a personal setting was the only one that made sense. Still, we think it helps give you a lot of control over how you experience the site and ultimately digest the data we're providing. On that note, I think it's time to discuss the data at length - why we're integrating it and what our long term goals are for this kind of integration - so be prepared for a read. I think we can all agree: LBPCentral has always been community focused. Anyone who's been here for any length of time can tell you that any change we've ever made has been made solely with the community in mind, with the goal of improving the quality of the time you spend here. We launched our Cool Levels page way back in 2008, as a response to the number of people looking for a quick and easy way to find levels people were talking about. We launched our Community Spotlight in the same year with the goal of showing off the best levels posted to our site, as a way to provide our community with a sampler of the best it had produced in the past two weeks. And the Creator Spotlight came along not too much later, with the hope of highlighting both popular and unsung Creators (and everyone inbetween) so that we could all get to know each other a little bit better. All these things were designed with the sole intent of improving our community, giving our members more reasons to spend their time here, and maybe having a positive effect on the LBP community as a whole along the way. Our new LBP.me data display system is no different. We designed it with the goal of more tightly weaving LBP and LBPCentral - "closing the gap", so to speak, between time spent playing LBP and time spent with the LBPC community. We launched with full respect of LBP's privacy features - we assumed if you didn't mind your info showing on LBP.me, you wouldn't mind it on LBPCentral either. Obviously, some people didn't agree, so we responded with a deep privacy system that allows you control over both how others see your data and how you see others' data. If you want to hide all your info and go back to the way it was before, you can now do so, without removing your PSN. If you want to show your data, but you don't like the idea of showing your heart count, that's an option as well. If you just don't want to see anyone's heart count, you can go that route. If you don't want to see anyone's data, you can do that too. You can even choose where the data displays - and we fully support both locations as viable options. When you get right down to it, the data is there to help you to get a better sense of who each member is, both as a member of LBPCentral as a member of the LBP community at large. And we now provide enough control over that data that each user can digest it in whichever way they prefer (more control than LBP.me provides, I might add). So, looking at where we are now, I don't see any reason to have a problem with it. If you don't like the system, turn it off. If you don't agree with certain aspects of it, you have a level of granular control. If you simply like our default setup and don't have any problems with the way we choose to show the info, you don't have to do any work to enjoy it. Everybody wins. So, please - try to enjoy it. I understand where the concerns are coming from regarding hearts, but as of now they're just speculative. Until we see some sort of actual negative outcome regarding the data, I think it's fair to ask that you give the system a chance to work. You've still got a ton of control if you need it, so feel free to utilize it. Thanks guys. And thanks to anyone who actually read the whole thing - I know it was fairly long. | 2011-01-03 23:44:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
| However, as I think someone mentioned yesterday, it still seems to me like you added these cool features just because you could, without questioning whether you should. TBH, you're kind of right there, in that much of it was "because we could". However, I had considered the negative consequences, but ultimately decided it's really no different to rep and XP, which are also fairly meaningless metrics users may use to "rank" each other. If we really want a system where all users are considered equal, then we ought to remove those too... *pauses for Syroc to agree wholeheartedly* ...but as much as we'd prefer to work as a meritocracy than a democracy, it's a pretty subjective argument as to whether any of these metrics are a good or bad thing, and if we have to fall back to a democratic choice, based on the responses in this thread so far, it seems as if most users appreciate the changes. I still don't see how there is any benefit displaying hearts, and in this whole thread I've not seen one person make a decent argument for why it's so awesome. It's not unreasonable to assume that there's a correlation between being a popular creator (not necessarily a skilled creator, but who's to say whether popularity or skill is paramount), and the number of hearts you have. Have you ever considered that maybe some users see their heart count as an accomplishment, are proud of that accomplishment, and want others to see it? Maybe you consider those people to be overly egotistical, but, on the other hand, maybe they consider you to be suffering from unusually low self-esteem. To clarify my own position in this, I'm really not bothered either way, i.e. whether we keep them or ditch them. I don't take the game (or anything else) very seriously, and just saw it as a fun new feature, but I guess there's no accounting for anhedonia. | 2011-01-04 00:05:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| STOP BLOWING MY MIIIIIIND! ...okay, continue blowing my mind. But in smaller doses, k? Can't afford to tape it back together every day. | 2011-01-04 00:16:00 Author: SLS10  Posts: 1129 |
| If I may... yes, it DOES seem like it's something just to make the site more shiny. But I don't know if we should rationalize everything based on its utility to the site. Some things ARE just fun and stupid... and shiny. If we get rid of all those cool doodads, sure, it may be a logical way to decrease the potential for negative contact... but it's not like LBP is supposed to be logical or whatever. It's fun. I unno, I'm just saying, I don't see why we should eliminate all potential sources of negativity and strip the site of the stupid shiny stuff. I like the shinies. Shinies make me feel good. ;-; | 2011-01-04 00:19:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| Thank you very much. I believe you just satisfied all the different opinions concerning this matter. Hells, lets forget all the drama; I'm incredibly proud to be part of LBPC at times like this. Seriously, I don't think that in many forums all this stuff would've been discussed in such a civilized manner, and have ended with the gods of the site granting everyone's wishes. | 2011-01-04 00:40:00 Author: Keldur Posts: 628 |
| Rock, that was the finest post I've ever seen you make. Bravo, fine sir. | 2011-01-04 00:54:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| Well now that is impressive on so many levels. I agree with Keldur that I don't think you'll find many forums with such a service minded staff of volunteer labor. Diplomatic; evenhanded; comprehensive... Fantastic work, gentlemen! Oh and btw... Aya.. anhedonia ...nice word (had to Google it)! | 2011-01-04 01:41:00 Author: v0rtex Posts: 1878 |
| Rock, that was the finest post I've ever seen you make. Bravo, fine sir. I'm going to take that as an insult :/ | 2011-01-04 01:47:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| I'm going to take that as an insult :/ Took you long enough. | 2011-01-04 01:49:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm going to take that as an insult :/ No insult, just a really fine point. As one boxghost likes to say, LittleBigPlanet is not serious business. | 2011-01-04 02:33:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338 |
| No insult, just a really fine point. As one boxghost likes to say, LittleBigPlanet is not serious business. I think he meant it as his persona as an "evil" villain lol but yes i agree, a great post indeed | 2011-01-04 04:40:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365 |
| Great work! *Thinks about comphermc's post about short, pleased answers* I can't really add anything more than that... But I'm happy, everyone else seems happy, and you all should be proud that you handled the situation so well. Like Syroc, I guess I'm a purist. I would love a setting for a stripped-down version of the forum - Just throwing it out there. Shiny stuff is nice, but I humbly would prefer posts, PSN, and avatars. Though it wouldn't be worth anyone's time unless at least a dozen or two users would use that feature. | 2011-01-04 05:18:00 Author: Incinerator22  Posts: 3251 |
| Like Syroc, I guess I'm a purist. I would love a setting for a stripped-down version of the forum - Just throwing it out there. Shiny stuff is nice, but I humbly would prefer posts, PSN, and avatars. Though it wouldn't be worth anyone's time unless at least a dozen or two users would use that feature. Two is a party. However, I had considered the negative consequences, but ultimately decided it's really no different to rep and XP, which are also fairly meaningless metrics users may use to "rank" each other. If we really want a system where all users are considered equal, then we ought to remove those too... *pauses for Syroc to agree wholeheartedly* /nods vigorously | 2011-01-04 08:50:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193 |
| I might use a setting that just shows name and avatar, too. Maybe add in title as well. Might help to speed up load times on my phone. | 2011-01-04 09:38:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284 |
| awesome upgrade! At first i thought this lbp.me was't going help much but thanks to you guys this great! | 2011-01-04 15:38:00 Author: deschuttes2  Posts: 157 |
| I am sure this site is cared for and respected enough that it will weather what ever fall out there is from this feature. If people are going to attach self worth to these stats, well then so be it. Taking them down will not change anything. It's not the stats that are a problem but peoples misconception that they mean something more then they do. Its all just a game. I only have 2 hearts, but my girl still loves me, and I have a great life. The out of game <3's totally destroy in game <3's and are a more accurate gauge of a life well spent. How many of those do you have? | 2011-01-04 15:49:00 Author: EinRobot Posts: 739 |
| No insult, just a really fine point. As one boxghost likes to say, LittleBigPlanet is not serious business. Well by saying that that is the best post I ever made, you're implying that most of my posts are horrible and spammy and that no post is better then that one... which insults my other 7000 posts... so uh yeah. /cough At any rate... ... will there be a part 3? >_> <_< D: | 2011-01-04 20:29:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| ... will there be a part 3? >_> <_< D: Yes, with smaller names, titles and the option to remove all the useless information on the left of every post. /hopes | 2011-01-04 20:43:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193 |
| Ooh, awesome! | 2011-01-04 22:15:00 Author: Retro  Posts: 104 |
| I have not understand what I have to do?? help please | 2011-01-05 15:55:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Awesomness =d | 2011-01-05 16:13:00 Author: littlebigveteran  Posts: 69 |
| I have not understand what I have to do?? According to lbp.me and playstation.com, the PSN "Sacito_Gabana" has never logged into the LBP server, so you won't have an LBP profile. | 2011-01-05 17:26:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Ok, I changed my settings. Now, we wait Waiting...... Eventually they might come up.... | 2011-01-05 21:09:00 Author: mutant_red_peas Posts: 516 |
| Ok, I changed my settings. Now, we wait Waiting...... Eventually they might come up.... Read this post (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=42634&p=721318&viewfull=1#post721318). ??? Profit. | 2011-01-05 21:16:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Yay! One more reason to love LBPCentral! | 2011-01-06 02:18:00 Author: theCooper  Posts: 72 |
| Utterly amazing. Been using lbp.me daily since the launch of the site. I would truly bow before if there was a. Lbp.me app. I would kill for that, ha! | 2011-01-06 04:57:00 Author: Lootgoon Posts: 3 |
| Read this post (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=42634&p=721318&viewfull=1#post721318). ??? Profit. Did a mod just use a meme? Doesn't really count though, that ones been used over 9000 times. | 2011-01-06 05:56:00 Author: booXely  Posts: 654 |
| I come back to a massive change lolz And i have 2 hearts | 2011-01-07 05:06:00 Author: AA_BATTERY  Posts: 1117 |
| According to lbp.me and playstation.com, the PSN "Sacito_Gabana" has never logged into the LBP server, so you won't have an LBP profile. Yes I have I even have levels on my comunity moon but I can?t log in don't know why? | 2011-01-07 19:18:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Yes I have I even have levels on my comunity moon Community Moon? Sounds like the PSP version. lbp.me doesn't support the PSP version, sadly, so it won't work for you. | 2011-01-07 21:28:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| oh ok now I get it ok thx | 2011-01-07 21:31:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Meh, awesome is an understatement so I'll proceed to provide you with a simple thanks...... ..... ...... .. . . Awwwww I gotta say it! AWESOME! | 2011-01-10 04:13:00 Author: Unknown User |
| This is amazing. A forum this creative and filled with shiny gubbins could only be dedicated to LBP | 2011-01-10 08:32:00 Author: groble  Posts: 223 |
| Any chance of banning or warnings to offenses made by lieing about your PSNID? Or would people just find out and then "know", shunning them for life on LBPC. | 2011-01-10 22:00:00 Author: Cronos Dage  Posts: 396 |
| Any chance of banning or warnings to offenses made by lieing about your PSNID? Or would people just find out and then "know", shunning them for life on LBPC. We already have a policy in place for handling this. While I won't go into fine detail, the basics are this: if we catch you using a PSN that's already being used by another LBPCentral user, you'll get in some sort of appropriate trouble and possibly lose the ability to use the LBP.me integration entirely. In a situation where it isn't being used by anyone else but is still suspicious for some reason - there's nothing we can do, really. Unless the true owner of the PSN approaches us directly about it, there's nothing we can do because we can't prove it's not your PSN. The PSN verification system LBP.me uses is 100% proprietary, and isn't something they allow anyone other than their partners to utilize. So it's not an option for us, sadly. | 2011-01-11 05:30:00 Author: ConfusedCartman Posts: 3729 |
This is great! I love it! great work you guys...thumbs up  | 2011-02-05 06:46:00 Author: hiphopliveson  Posts: 47 |
| lbp.me and lbpcentral just keep getting better and better. I love the integration, so convenient to just click on link to take right to users LBP.me page | 2011-02-06 15:43:00 Author: biorogue  Posts: 8424 |
| The lbp.me integration is so seamless that it practically feels like an official extension! Really makes this forum into a treasure trove of lesser known/played levels that people have really poured their heart and soul into! | 2011-02-09 12:23:00 Author: Unknown User |
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