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School in one summery discuss if you have any thought about it
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| Id like to say school now a days has become sort of like an uncultured wasteland. the reason i say this is well i barely find kids i connect with (in my own grade) and basically i a bit worried that in the future whats in school will happen when we are all adults so this whole dominance thing will be terrible.also kids don't act their own age see i have a chance of skipping a grade due to a minor problem in elementary school and i took that chance but this week i had to go back to my 7th grade class for some testing and i learned all the kids in their are all spoiled all act like everything will be handed to them and they can get away with anything they think that its all fine you can hurt anyone and be ok with it. so basically kids are not acting right they act like plain idiots doing anything they want most of the people i knew were either suspended or in issp (in school suspension) so i would like to say to all the people here who are in school i mean all the people who sort of wish kids would act nicer than this whole weird fear of others thing don't like him because of this don't like her because of this all this racism basically do any of you in school ever fell like this and if people don't mind if they can discuss im just curios if there is any other kids/teens who feel this way. and that's in my way school in one summery. | 2010-12-11 04:50:00 Author: Lgjoka2002  Posts: 538 |
| Kids, im afraid, will always be kids. Groups will form, people will be divided, rumors will start. School however is made for your benefit, rise above the people who get you down and study hard. Most kids don't understand that school is the start of the rest of your life, it shapes the person you are going to become. Make sure you turn out right. If you find yourself alienated from the rest of your schoolmates, look at these people and decide "do I really want to be like them?" Trust me, in 5 years time you will look back on your school life and think either these two thing. "I wish I worked harder." or "Im glad things turned out the way they did." The kids who bypass school and disrespect it will no doubt become the people who are cruel, miserable and generally unhappy in life. The ones who study hard, have talents away from school and a positive attitude will succeed. Try if you can to focus on the future. School is a small but significant part of life. Do well and the sky's the limit. Excuse my babbling......i've had a few. :S | 2010-12-11 22:56:00 Author: Mr_T-Shirt  Posts: 1477 |
| The key lesson there is that you have to learn how to deal with people like that because those are the kinds of people you'll be forced to deal with once you get out into the real world. Unfortunately, you will see many people like this in the future and it will be evident. The best thing you can do for now is to learn to accept society as it is and know where you want to be in the future and prepare for it as well as you can. | 2010-12-11 23:02:00 Author: Enlong3 Posts: 357 |
| it's where you'll be spending the School is quite an interesting thing. Beginning with the obvious, it's your second home. For about 20 odd years, the majority of your waking days, so obviously whatever the conditions are there will shape you for the rest of your life, and exaggerated and dramatic as that may sound. That's of course Now of course, schools are not going to be consistently good or bad. You'll have the bad ones, the sadistic teachers, the 'clique' schools, the inept administrators, etc. The you have the nice schools, brilliant educators, actually smart and nice people, experienced disciplinarians, etc. Of course, some things never change; you'll have those few intellectuals (not necessarily geeks and nerds, minds you, just not dumb), the few people you can make friends with, and of course the occasional love interest or two. You'll have enemies and friends. And you'll have at least one teacher you connect with and trust. Of course, for some it may suck more than others. Educational reform is needed, mind you, and politicians are specially ignorant of how important a good education is for the future of not just the country or civilization but mankind as a whole. But definitely, school is odd. In theory it sucks, but I'm fortunate enough that I don't dread getting up in the morning (except when my pubertal hormones act up and I'm in a bad or drastic mood). Slightly relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_bvT-DGcWw | 2010-12-11 23:46:00 Author: Astrosimi  Posts: 2046 |
| Its not the fact that they are acting weird etc, they are just being kids. Horrible little kids lol. Seems today parents dont know how to parent, they think because you can have sex you automatically have the right or are able to be a parent. This is not the case! Alot with what we see in society today imo comes from bad parenting and the way cultures are changing and how there is less shame in the world. Your obviously more mature and have gone past that phase in life..... Try to enjoy school please, it sucks a lot of the time but trust me its a lot easier than the 'real world' lol Have fun, find some genuine nice and honest people and forgt everyone else. Be a little bit of a rebel every now and then, have a laugh, but be aware of what you are doing and don't ever hurt others in the process lol take care buddy | 2010-12-12 14:45:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| School, live with it. You better suck up all the knowledge like a sponge and kick anybody's bum who tries to squeeze it out of you again for their own purpose and giving nothing in return. I ignore most people, but if I have to cooperate with slackers I will whip them up to shape or just do their work and tell the teacher they did do nothing because they are too lazy to care. Seems brutal, but life is a survival of the fittest. | 2010-12-12 14:57:00 Author: moonwire  Posts: 1627 |
| I hate school. In all honesty, LittleBigPlanet does the same thing as school (if not better). Aside from the educational part of school, the social part isn't as good for me. All the people in my grade, "Freshmen" act like they are still in elementary school, but really want to be adults. All the girls fantasize about having a sensitive, funny, and all around nice guy, but instead they go for the complete opposite. In addition to that they all act like...well, there is a "W"ord for it. All the guys that you would want to hang out with are all ignorant and full of themselves, as well as half of them being complete pot heads. It sucks...That's why all my friends are outside of school, but I hardly see them because of how much school work we are given, because mothers complain that their children aren't getting enough homework. UNBELIEVABLE. Doesn't help that my parents hardly ever let me leave the house either. Makes it even harder to see my friends, even if I have free time... SCHOOL as it is SUCKS!!! Waisted time my friend, waisted time... | 2010-12-12 15:13:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Its not the fact that they are acting weird etc, they are just being kids. Horrible little kids lol. Seems today parents dont know how to parent, they think because you can have sex you automatically have the right or are able to be a parent. This is not the case! Alot with what we see in society today imo comes from bad parenting and the way cultures are changing and how there is less shame in the world. Your obviously more mature and have gone past that phase in life..... Try to enjoy school please, it sucks a lot of the time but trust me its a lot easier than the 'real world' lol Have fun, find some genuine nice and honest people and forgt everyone else. Be a little bit of a rebel every now and then, have a laugh, but be aware of what you are doing and don't ever hurt others in the process lol take care buddy Iv passed that phase years ago or else i wouldnt like lbp, 2 people i know passed it the rest are all play around life will be really easy. | 2010-12-12 15:19:00 Author: Lgjoka2002 Posts: 538 |
| I hate school. In all honesty, LittleBigPlanet does the same thing as school (if not better). Aside from the educational part of school, the social part isn't as good for me. All the people in my grade, "Freshmen" act like they are still in elementary school, but really want to be adults. All the girls fantasize about having a sensitive, funny, and all around nice guy, but instead they go for the complete opposite. In addition to that they all act like...well, there is a "W"ord for it. All the guys that you would want to hang out with are all ignorant and full of themselves, as well as half of them being complete pot heads. It sucks...That's why all my friends are outside of school, but I hardly see them because of how much school work we are given, because mothers complain that their children aren't getting enough homework. UNBELIEVABLE. Doesn't help that my parents hardly ever let me leave the house either. Makes it even harder to see my friends, even if I have free time... SCHOOL as it is SUCKS!!! Waisted time my friend, waisted time... i know exactly how you feel -_- | 2010-12-12 15:24:00 Author: Lgjoka2002 Posts: 538 |
| I hate school. In all honesty, LittleBigPlanet does the same thing as school (if not better). Aside from the educational part of school, the social part isn't as good for me. All the people in my grade, "Freshmen" act like they are still in elementary school, but really want to be adults. All the girls fantasize about having a sensitive, funny, and all around nice guy, but instead they go for the complete opposite. In addition to that they all act like...well, there is a "W"ord for it. All the guys that you would want to hang out with are all ignorant and full of themselves, as well as half of them being complete pot heads. It sucks...That's why all my friends are outside of school, but I hardly see them because of how much school work we are given, because mothers complain that their children aren't getting enough homework. UNBELIEVABLE. Doesn't help that my parents hardly ever let me leave the house either. Makes it even harder to see my friends, even if I have free time... SCHOOL as it is SUCKS!!! Waisted time my friend, waisted time... Everyone here is like 'yeah lets get wasted and go out and get runk all the time' Its so bloody annoying lol I though by the age of 20 people would be a bit more mature. You know have fun and all but when you need to get drunk and sleep around to have fun surely there is something wrong with you lol | 2010-12-12 15:38:00 Author: Unknown User |
| You gotta suck it up for the years you are in school, and do well, and then when it's all done, you can get away from it and find a job you enjoy to do. If you don't try and slack off the whole time, at the end you'll get a bad job, and be stuck doing something you hate for even longer. | 2010-12-13 00:27:00 Author: Kog  Posts: 2358 |
| Summary? Why bother typing a summary when I can use one word : Boring. | 2010-12-13 00:32:00 Author: illuminationx  Posts: 860 |
| You gotta suck it up for the years you are in school, and do well, and then when it's all done, you can get away from it and find a job you enjoy to do. If you don't try and slack off the whole time, at the end you'll get a bad job, and be stuck doing something you hate for even longer. you just defined life as a terrible place lol :3 | 2010-12-13 00:35:00 Author: Lgjoka2002 Posts: 538 |
| you just defined life as a terrible place lol :3 Wrong. He describes what happens to you if you don't care for your own education and do things that aren't beneficial to a good future. I don't see how you thought he was describing life being terrible... But -snickers-... Your reply was a tad bit off. | 2010-12-13 00:57:00 Author: illuminationx Posts: 860 |
| School has turned from being about learning to work and stress.why is school stressful?? because of homework im not even going to explain that one you should all know why. and then there is trying to look good and to be cool. personally i am not cool and i almost don't really care bullying could also add stress to the victim. in my opinion i think there should be no homework less work more lessons by teachers and for 4 and a half hours a day for 3days a week. P.S-stress is one of the most harmful things to your body. | 2010-12-15 00:16:00 Author: ktmbillyjr  Posts: 177 |
| Doesn't sound like school has changed much, you still get to finish at what? Half 3, 4 or something every day, get weeks and weeks off throughout the year and everyone just moans about how unfair it is and want's to just throw away the opportunities of having a decent education system.... Sounds horrendous  Can't believe you're suggesting to drop iit to13.5 hours a week? I've worked more hours than that in a single day and done that several days in a row! Seriously, school is not that rough, make the most of all the numerous benefits of being young without significant responsibilities :-) | 2010-12-15 00:50:00 Author: rtm223  Posts: 6497 |
| Doesn't sound like school has changed much, you still get to finish at what? Half 3, 4 or something every day, get weeks and weeks off throughout the year.... Sounds horrendous Can't believe you're suggesting to drop iit to13.5 hours a week? I've worked more hours than that in a single day! Seriously, school is not that rough, make the most of all the numerous benefits of being young without significant responsibilities :-) If I had one wish (based in reality), it would be to get more Education. I'm in a dead end job ,and I know I could have done more if I had continued my education. It's not a complete loss, My daughter started Kindergarten this year and it is WAY more aggressive with the learning curriculum then when I went. I will do my best to make her see the importance of education ad nauseum if need be. | 2010-12-15 01:02:00 Author: KILLA_TODDZILLA  Posts: 653 |
| Ultimately, I believe that school is something that is necessary in principle but horribly flawed in execution. It's necessary because children generally aren't motivated or capable of self-education and parents are either ill-equipped or not available to homeschool them; an arguement could be made against school if neither was the case but they are. It's flawed because the public educational system today (particularly in America) is drowning in mismanagement, incompetant teachers, corrupt teacher unions, lower standards to pander to underperformance, and an increasingly inhospitable atmosphere birthed from the digital age and bigotries that persist from the last century. From a purely statistical perspective, having a higher education is the best chance people have at living prosperous adult lives. The exceptions to that are generally people who were born into money and don't really need to work or otherwise are well-connected enough to gain cushy positions with little effort on their part, undereducated wastes of space who make careers out of having no shame and no qualms of turning their otherwise disgusting and decadent behavior into something others are willing to pay to watch (you know the people who I'm talking about), the truly prodigious whom public education is genuinely beneath them and are brilliant, driven, and lucky enough to capitalize on their uncommon talents, or are simply so lucky that they may get any of the benefits of those listed previously dropped into their lap unwittingly. Yes, public education isn't all it could be but unless you're lucky or a shameless waste of space it's hardly a complete waste of time...unless you're a true genius, which in that case you probably wouldn't be posting here in the first place. | 2010-12-15 03:13:00 Author: Dapiek Absaroka  Posts: 512 |
| iv'e spent 10,080 hours in school and i will spend a lot more and iv'e learned quite a bit.i'm not complaining but i know that the amount of hours could definitely be reduced. | 2010-12-15 03:22:00 Author: ktmbillyjr Posts: 177 |
| Doesn't sound like school has changed much, you still get to finish at what? Half 3, 4 or something every day, get weeks and weeks off throughout the year and everyone just moans about how unfair it is and want's to just throw away the opportunities of having a decent education system.... Sounds horrendous Can't believe you're suggesting to drop iit to13.5 hours a week? I've worked more hours than that in a single day and done that several days in a row! Seriously, school is not that rough, make the most of all the numerous benefits of being young without significant responsibilities :-) no i leave at about 6-7 'o' clock sue to this one thing im in. | 2010-12-15 22:50:00 Author: Lgjoka2002 Posts: 538 |
I wake up at 5 a.m., a little earlier if I want to make a good breakfast, but most of the time I don't have time to eat. I am not that upset about the time school ends (2:16pm), but I wish I got home earlier than 3:40pm (one and a half hours on the bus is...). In all honesty, you don't need 12 years of school, maybe 6-8. I basically learn the same useless information year after year (still learning the same things from the third grade). Don't get me wrong, I know WHY we learn all this useless info (even though we'll forget it). It is to exercise and mature the brain so that later in life you can better understand information provided to you. This progress however stopped at about 6th grade. The only subjects I actually agree with are Health, Math, (a little of) Science, and English (Also any education that prepares you for the specific career you are pursuing) everything else, > . The goals of School have become less and less about the education and more about reputation and statistics. They just want to throw so much at you so that they can say,"See! See! Look what we offer up! We are better than you!" Than they try to pacify the whining children by saying they are going SO easy on them. Than we have our parents who always say,"You think school is hard now? Try my day when we had to use books!" For one, just because technology has advanced doesn't make you better than me (even though we hardly ever use computers-at my school at least). Also, there is so much more pressure on the kids of this generation to perform in school (and they really do try), we do not need MORE homework-as our parents suggest. Kind of went on an aimless rant there, but all in all what I was trying to say was that kids are being screwed over by people who have an obscure view on modern society because of the time they come from. Really, very few parents actually know what it's like to be a teenager/kid in these times (It's not even close to good) | 2010-12-16 05:26:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm a little annoyed but not surprised at all this opposition towards work and difficulty. All you people who feel that way about school will either grow up to be ignorant anarchists at best, or, more likely, appreciate school in a few years. And you should really advance your grammar... 'summery'... 'waisted'... I'm going through my first year of freshmen high school, and I want to open up a window and shout out to the world about how happy I am. Socially, it's been fantastic for me. My new friends and I are no longer friends just because we have classes together. The spectrum of personalities is overwhelming. I moved from a junior high class of 19 to a freshmen class of around 330. Of course there are idiots here and there - school wouldn't be the same without them. But you'll see idiots all throughout your life, as well as experience dating, hard work, and a sense of oppression from it all. It's natural. Anyone who tells you "It will only get harder as you get older" is 100% right, but you know what? You'll grow in patience and maturity at the same time. Educationally, I finally have a chance to demonstrate how hard I work. My weekday life is that I wake up at 5:45 to go to school, leave at around 4:00 after whatever errands I have to run, and go to bed at around 12:00. I'm not bragging or complaining, I don't mind. I've definitely changed more in the past 6 months than at any other time in my life, and it's great. | 2010-12-16 06:09:00 Author: Incinerator22  Posts: 3251 |
| I'm a little annoyed but not surprised at all this opposition towards work and difficulty. All you people who feel that way about school will either grow up to be ignorant anarchists at best, or, more likely, appreciate school in a few years. And you should really advance your grammar... 'summery'... 'waisted'... I'm going through my first year of freshmen high school, and I want to open up a window and shout out to the world about how happy I am. Socially, it's been fantastic for me. My new friends and I are no longer friends just because we have classes together. The spectrum of personalities is overwhelming. I moved from a junior high class of 19 to a freshmen class of around 330. Of course there are idiots here and there - school wouldn't be the same without them. But you'll see idiots all throughout your life, as well as experience dating, hard work, and a sense of oppression from it all. It's natural. Anyone who tells you "It will only get harder as you get older" is 100% right, but you know what? You'll grow in patience and maturity at the same time. Educationally, I finally have a chance to demonstrate how hard I work. My weekday life is that I wake up at 5:45 to go to school, leave at around 4:00 after whatever errands I have to run, and go to bed at around 12:00. I'm not bragging or complaining, I don't mind. I've definitely changed more in the past 6 months than at any other time in my life, and it's great. I am also in my freshman year. Hopefully all the stuff I say about school won't make it seem like I am whining. I put up with school and put whatever effort in that is expected of me. So far I have a 4.0 (that probably won't last). I'll do the work, because I have to, but I am not stupid, I know the extent of education needed. It's not like it's not known either, regardless of your problems with school, the system is messed up. I don't like saying this because it makes me sound like I am full of myself, but I am far more mature than anyone in my school. They drive me nuts, it's like a bunch of screaming children running in circles around you, asking questions you consider common sense. But like you would treat a child, I treat them. They are undeveloped and ignorant and though they may hurt you, you NEVER under ANY circumstances hurt someone else (unless it is to protect your own life). Erh, saying this stuff makes me sound like an ***. @Bremnen Exactly. I actually love my teachers. Not because they are smart just because they are interesting. My history teacher thinks he's still in highschool and hangs out with everyone. My Biology teacher gets side tracked very easily and doesn't end up teaching until the last 5 minutes of class, so we end up having to do most of the lessons at home in addition to the homework, but it is fine since the class is actually a fun place to hang out and loose some stress (very much needed). My English teacher used to be quite the hippy, but loves great music so there are posters of Eric Clapton, JimiH, The Beatles etc. all over the room. There is also this war veteran who teaches another science class. He has hearing problems and is extremely strict, but in a comical way. I hated my teachers until highschool, they don't treat you like a child anymore they let you accept responsibilities and actually treat you like an adult. | 2010-12-16 06:27:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Personally I think teachers are one of the biggest problems, not all of them obviously. I've seen far too many teachers who really should not be teaching. My I.T. teacher even told me that she didn't need to know about what we were learning, maybe times have changed, but I remember when teachers actually knew what they were teaching. I still ended up with a good grade at the end of it all thankfully. A more extreme case was my science teacher I had for all of 9 weeks .He was fired for the last week of term, though it was too late, every single student failed the test because we simply weren't taught what we needed to know. Those marks didn't end up being accepted and we all got to sit the test again later. Overall though, I loved my schooling. Knowing that you'll see your mates 5 days a week every week is great. EDIT: was great  | 2010-12-16 10:17:00 Author: SR20DETDOG  Posts: 2431 |
| Really, very few parents actually know what it's like to be a teenager/kid in these times Heh. This reminds me now why I (and the rest of the adult population of LBPC) should stay away from this thread... It's funny (with hindsight) how every single generation has exactly this same misconception about growing up. Things are so much harder for them and so much different to their predecessors and no one understands and the schools don't know what you need and life's too hard and stressful.... Every generation is the same, except the current one - obviously it's different for you  And this isn't intended to sound mean or patronising or anything, because I do understand (not that you're likely to believe that but meh). Hence why I shall leave this thread, safe in the knowledge that my education, regardless of how tedious bits of it were, led me to where I am now, which is a pretty awesome place to be... Certainly something that can't be said for every single one of my peers who dropped out of school at the earliest opportunity. | 2010-12-16 11:35:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Most of the complaints about School come from people not knowing what its like not to be in school. Its the same with everything, you can't judge until you have seen what its like without it. But thats irrelevant. The School hierarchy comes from natural predatory instincts of the human race. i.e: Theres nothing you can do about it. However the bullies who give you a hard way to go mostly feel the need to exercise their strengths to feel secure. Its a weird thing. The happiest people are the ones who feel they don't need to try and are happy where they are at in the social scheme of things. I can't give any advice, just tell you how it is. I have been at School for most of my life. There are highs and lows. The most depressing part is, you don't know you had it easy till you're forced to work hard. In Primary School I complained insistently about getting one homework a week. Now I have about four a day. People judge how hard their life is compared to what else they have experienced. This is why a large portion of the developed world is not happy or content. If people who live far worse lives were to have what we have, they would appreciate it so much more because of what they have known. Therefore neither adults or children can accurately guess how bad their situation is compared with each other. :/ All that is confusing, and is just how society and your mind works. Now for some useful stuff: Basically, the harder you work the better you will feel about yourself and the higher chance you have of doing well in all you do. Try being kind and friendly for a day and see how you life begins to change for the better. Try being miserable and self-pitying and watch as it goes down the drain. Life's quite simple really. People just complicate it. *takes serious hat off* | 2010-12-16 12:25:00 Author: PygmyOwl  Posts: 1316 |
| ?Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.? Written by a certain Socrates in around about 450bc. Nothing has changed & nothing will  | 2010-12-16 13:01:00 Author: Macnme  Posts: 1970 |
| Doesn't change the fact that every generation complains about the exact same things as teenagers as their parents did and then go on to make the same complaints about their kids as their parents did about them. All the above is merely background ;-) | 2010-12-16 21:22:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| I see what you mean. Being in Generation Z this is a weird, but not impossible feat. I guess growing up with so much stuff, and the ability to do previously impossible things instantly would definitely have big effects on people. Growing up in a world where almost everything is done for you, where incredible technology is common-place, is going to make some naive kids. I'm one of them. But lets just look back it time. Look at the bigger picture. There is a pattern. Think three generations, rotating, each becoming the one before. A rather unglamorous circle of life, social life. Cultures inside it clash. You see, the human race has been steadily advancing, there are those who grow up with the advances. There are those who remember how it was before, and know what the others don't appreciate. Sometimes several generations will pass with no change, when there is a dip in advancement people look back at what was better. When, as the situation is now, people are more privileged, the older generation look back and see how happy they were with less. To them the standards of people have gone down, even if the technology up. Okay, now this is theory. What people don't see is how this is how humans cope. Every feeling is based on experience, even imagination is a mix of previous sensations and information. You feel happy because you have seen worse, and understand the benefit that exists. If you had never felt sad you would never feel happy, its crazily simple. This is why we, Generation Z don't, and can't appreciate what we have. You know when you go away, and how much happier to see you home you feel when you return? If you never went away you would never have felt that. Its how emotions fit together, all emotions are products of each other. The universe, the mind, all fit together like a infinite and incredibly complex jig-saw puzzle. It is that impossible machine that runs on its own energy. If you stand back from it far enough there is a clear pattern, but if you are a tiny piece then that pattern is as good as invisible, the day to day variations crowd you with colour that too blinding to see out. Back down to earth: If you can understand this it all makes a big kind of sense. Each generation, back to the invention of fire, has felt judged upon different standards, if we all judged upon the same the depression and the euphoria would be so broad it would drive the world crazy. Thats why each generation has felt the same feeling, had the same bitterness, felt the same excitement at seeing something new, but not understood how lucky they are compared with the generation before. Imagine if we judged advancement right back to the flame on a stick, and our smugness accurately recreated that? Would kill the drug industry. This is what comes of loooooooooooooooonnnnnnnng car journeys and no ipod. Cya. | 2010-12-16 21:59:00 Author: PygmyOwl Posts: 1316 |
| Everyone's always moaning and groaning about how terrible school is, how it's too long, etc. You wanna hear something crazy? I like it.  | 2010-12-16 22:18:00 Author: Frinklebumper  Posts: 941 |
| Someones late to the conversation. And someone's suffering from a severe case of angst. | 2010-12-16 23:01:00 Author: Frinklebumper Posts: 941 |
| Heh. This reminds me now why I (and the rest of the adult population of LBPC) should stay away from this thread... It's funny (with hindsight) how every single generation has exactly this same misconception about growing up. Things are so much harder for them and so much different to their predecessors and no one understands and the schools don't know what you need and life's too hard and stressful.... Every generation is the same, except the current one - obviously it's different for you And this isn't intended to sound mean or patronising or anything, because I do understand (not that you're likely to believe that but meh). Hence why I shall leave this thread, safe in the knowledge that my education, regardless of how tedious bits of it were, led me to where I am now, which is a pretty awesome place to be... Certainly something that can't be said for every single one of my peers who dropped out of school at the earliest opportunity. If I am understanding you correctly, than I agree. What I am taking from this, and also what I believe, is that since times change, generations conflict with each other. It's normal, and not really a misconception (as there isn't a proper one to begin with), but more like an unfortunate occurrence due to societies evolution. When my children say,"You don't know what it's like to be a teenager!" I won't hold anything against them, and I'll understand that I don't and won't know what it's like (This is of course just in respect to the issues they deal with in themselves, not broader issues that could affect everyone like the great depression). The reason I am upset by most adults and their thoughts is that THOSE are the misconceptions, the failure to realize things actually change within the younger generations world. (not to say the basis for situations change, it's only the structure of them. It's just the younger generations notice the details a little more than adults do since they are held far more closely to the social world.) | 2010-12-17 02:27:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Id like to say school now a days has become sort of like an uncultured wasteland. the reason i say this is well i barely find kids i connect with (in my own grade) and basically i a bit worried that in the future whats in school will happen when we are all adults so this whole dominance thing will be terrible.also kids don't act their own age see i have a chance of skipping a grade due to a minor problem in elementary school and i took that chance but this week i had to go back to my 7th grade class for some testing and i learned all the kids in their are all spoiled all act like everything will be handed to them and they can get away with anything they think that its all fine you can hurt anyone and be ok with it. so basically kids are not acting right they act like plain idiots doing anything they want most of the people i knew were either suspended or in issp (in school suspension) so i would like to say to all the people here who are in school i mean all the people who sort of wish kids would act nicer than this whole weird fear of others thing don't like him because of this don't like her because of this all this racism basically do any of you in school ever fell like this and if people don't mind if they can discuss im just curios if there is any other kids/teens who feel this way. and that's in my way school in one summery. This is why School exists. Read the quote, can you tell me what's wrong with it? Hint: It's the spelling/grammar! | 2010-12-17 03:48:00 Author: Unknown User |
| @Dizzy But that feeling is basic. Yes we all get judged by different thiing, but thats not what we're talking about, rtm said every generation thinks they have it harder than the previous generation. As if it is ridiculous to think that. Some generations have it easy, some have it hard. Also, you can't compare modern generations to generations that long ago. There was never advancements like we have now. You can't compare the printing press to a computer. The computer changed everything, that and the internet have completely changed the way generations will live from now on. It's like going from having workers to having machines making goods, it sped up so fast that it changed the way every worked. The amount of goods being produced skyrocketed and the world was never as it was before that. The home computer and the internet came in and now comunication and information are instant, making learning things quicker than ever. What used to take years and lifetimes to learn, now takes minutes and hours. No problem, it was just an idea. I kinda like school really. I go to quite a good one, its got a neat ethos about community, teachers and students working together, etc. It doesn't work perfectly, but its better. | 2010-12-17 10:06:00 Author: PygmyOwl Posts: 1316 |
| Well, some teachers suck. But still school is important. I wouldn't evEn be typing this if it wasn't for school. 1-I wouldn't be able to read 2- no one would be smart enough to even think of the Internet. Yeah school is boring. But if you want a good job, it's worth it. I work hard and a got a award for academical excellentness. *twinks screen to fix grammatical errors* | 2010-12-17 10:24:00 Author: AA_BATTERY  Posts: 1117 |
| The home computer and the internet came in and now comunication and information are instant, making learning things quicker than ever. What used to take years and lifetimes to learn, now takes minutes and hours. Or it removes the need to learn ANYTHING. You don't need to learn how to spell - you can use spell checker. You don't need to learn how to count - you can use a calculator You don't need to learn any historical facts or events - you can just google them. So what we have created - with all of human knowledge available at anytime in an instant - is a generation of illiterate, innumerate, google genii, who only know how to regurgitate a half formed opinion stolen from the internet. And we ALL know how accurate information on the internet is, don't we But they are stuck if they don't have a gadget that does the thinking for them. | 2010-12-17 12:23:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970 |
| Wow, imagine if due to some disaster we lost all technology. It interesting thinking how the world would react. But this is one of the negative sides to all these new inventions. Knowledge of how to live without them becomes obsolete. I don't know what could be done about it really. Everything was designed to make life easier, but that also reduces the need to think. I guess this whole thing is a double-edged sword. | 2010-12-17 13:10:00 Author: PygmyOwl Posts: 1316 |
| Human society has always used cognitive offloading to improve our ability to function. From using spoken language to discuss the issue with another person, jotting down a to-do list, visual diagrams representing a specific problem, textbooks, libraries, cartography... Why memorise an entire textbook when it's sitting there on your shelf? You remember as much as you need to to get by given your present requirements, and look up any other details when the need arises. Now that information technology is ubiquitous and most people are connected most of the time is in many ways a massive change, but in reality it's not that much different to what we've been doing for millennia. It's just that now it's quicker and more widely available. Arguably this is a benefit to education, as long as the educators utilise it well (which is highly debatable, of course). And it's not just cognition that we offload, it's everything, we use tools and machines to achieve tasks that the limitations of our bodies render impossible. This is pretty much the thing that defines the human race. And just to make sure this is still slightly on topic... I learned this in my Interactive Systems modules | 2010-12-17 13:27:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497 |
| Some people here are really right, so kids, listen to them. But I add that life is so hectic and random that you aren't granted something good if you study, so figure out what will be of you if you're a slacker. Sounds rude, but shut up and study Complaining is just useless and just wasted time, but you would realize only when it's late. | 2010-12-17 14:32:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
| They act like idiots(most not all, don't want it to seem like im against any of you, except alec </3) </3 :'( | 2010-12-17 14:40:00 Author: Alec  Posts: 3871 |
| Complaining is just useless and just wasted time, but you would realize only when it's late. I've wasted my life! | 2010-12-17 14:58:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970 |
| All this thread is doing is: Giving all the teenagers that hate school a place to ***** and moan about how no one else is a teenager and they don't know what they're going through because all people not in school were already born big, and everyone not in school is telling them they're wrong for thinking it's useless. I think it should be closed, it's based on biased opinions, nothing more. | 2010-12-17 20:53:00 Author: Unknown User |
| ... ***** and moan about how no one else is a teenager and they don't know what they're going through because all people not in school were already born big... *Directs Inanimacy to my response to rtm223's statement on the 3rd page* Didn't feel like saying it again...but I agree this thread isn't exactly encouraging a debate as much as it is "THIS SUCKS!" responses. I wouldn't close the thread yet though... | 2010-12-17 21:39:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm about 3-4 years away from your age and my little brother is probably around your age, I still go to his school sometimes when I don't have work or anything and nothing seems to have changed since I was there, same work, same teacher with alcohol in his coffee mug, same stupid kids. | 2010-12-17 21:44:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm about 3-4 years away from your age ... Highlighting lines of text is just so much quicker | 2010-12-17 21:47:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Highlighting lines of text is just so much quicker Did you read the rest? ;P | 2010-12-17 21:47:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I'm 16, I go to school every day, 7:00 to 3:00 and I realize it's importance. I've got the highest grades possible because I put in time and effort. My opinion is that school is what you make it and you will only get as much information as you're willing to take in. If you go to school with no will to learn, you won't learn. Simple. I'm not saying, "Oh, you have to enjoy school to learn and get use out of it." Not at all. I don't necessarily enjoy school, but it's something that you really, really should do. If you whine about school and don't do your due diligence now, it's a lot more likely that you'll be whining about your own life later. Do what you wish with your life, but the people that give orders and lounge in their penthouse suites, they're the ones that went to school and worked for what they have. Even if it's still not going well, get into an after-school activity, like sports or clubs. I play sports all the time and they keep grades up and give you more of a reason to go to school. | 2010-12-17 21:54:00 Author: piggabling  Posts: 2979 |
| I'm 16, I go to school every day, 7:00 to 3:00 and I realize it's importance. I've got the highest grades possible because I put in time and effort. My opinion is that school is what you make it and you will only get as much information as you're willing to take in. If you go to school with no will to learn, you won't learn. Simple. I'm not saying, "Oh, you have to enjoy school to learn and get use out of it." Not at all. I don't necessarily enjoy school, but it's something that you really, really should do. If you whine about school and don't do your due diligence now, it's a lot more likely that you'll be whining about your own life later. Do what you wish with your life, but the people that give orders and lounge in their penthouse suites, they're the ones that went to school and worked for what they have. Even if it's still not going well, get into an after-school activity, like sports or clubs. I play sports all the time and they keep grades up and give you more of a reason to go to school. The poster above me is Jesus. | 2010-12-17 21:59:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Wow. I can't believe how difficult and bleak your lives are. Truly. I can't imagine a worse situation for someone to be in than to be at school. How hard it is - and I know, as I myself attend one of the worst schools in Scotland - to actually be forced to do work to make your future slightly less unbearable. On a less sarcastic note, I do hate most people in my school. I don't agree with any of the ******** rules, and I believe some of the teachers should never have become teachers. I don't, though, believe that nobody understands this, and I also don't believe that no one else has been in the same situation as me. I also find that to get the most out of school, it helps to have friends. I don't mean to offend or seem arrogant, but for some people in this thread, it seems they haven't even tried to have any semblance of social interaction in their lives. Like has already been mentioned, you do not know what life after school is like. For all you know, it could be much, much worse than the apparent hell of school. Enjoy school while you can, there's no point spending the first twenty or so years of your life in total misery, when it can be avoided. | 2010-12-17 22:35:00 Author: resistance1  Posts: 812 |
| Did you read the rest? ;P yup, that's the reason I responded... And just throwing this out there. I hardly ever hear people say they hate school because they work, I hear them say they hate school because of how difficult it is for them. Immediately saying, You aren't trying, You are whining, You are complaining, are all just ways of showing how amazingly blind you are to the fact that all they are doing is a simple problem solving process (a healthy one). They see a problem or an obstruction interfering with their goals, they observe the details, and try to find a way to solve the problem. I am sorry, but I never knew going to others for help to solve your problems was a bad thing. It's just that people get whining and THIS mixed up. Before you judge a person when they say,"school sucks" ask why, or you are having far more problems with yourself than them... | 2010-12-17 23:17:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Don't worry, they'll grow up eventually. Maybe longer than it took you to mature, but still one day. When they do, they'll realise what idiots they were. If they don't mature, they're screwed. Look at it this way; They could end up cleaning toilets in your awesome multi-million pound (or dollar) offices one day. But if you're still stuck with hundreds of chavs [read:delinquents] then you could always... y'know... http://www.japanprobe.com/july06/nuke/usb_nuke_button_1.jpg http://www.vi-r-us.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/nuke.jpg | 2010-12-18 00:27:00 Author: Weretigr  Posts: 2105 |
| yup, that's the reason I responded... And just throwing this out there. I hardly ever hear people say they hate school because they work, I hear them say they hate school because of how difficult it is for them. Immediately saying, You aren't trying, You are whining, You are complaining, are all just ways of showing how amazingly blind you are to the fact that all they are doing is a simple problem solving process (a healthy one). They see a problem or an obstruction interfering with their goals, they observe the details, and try to find a way to solve the problem. I am sorry, but I never knew going to others for help to solve your problems was a bad thing. It's just that people get whining and THIS mixed up. Before you judge a person when they say,"school sucks" ask why, or you are having far more problems with yourself than them... First of all, you're accusing others of accusing. Little hypocritical? Secondly, 90% of the people I talk to say school is too much work. I'm speaking from my personal experiences, not "blindly complaining", let alone judging you. Heck, I'm giving suggestions, but at the end, do you read "do what you wish with your life"? Lastly, all great obstacles can be overcome with work and perserverence. Not to be banal, but Helen Keller learned to speak and the near-paralyzed have worked to lead normal lives, don't you think that people who think school is so hard can just work at it and then at least pass and get through it? I do. Also, where did anyone ever say not to go to others for help and where did I say someone wasn't trying? Nowhere. EDIT: If school is hard and someone isn't understanding it, go to the teacher, get tutored, ask a friend who understands. Just doing things such as that signifies that that person is at least attemping to learn. That's what I call at least "attempting to make school a priority". | 2010-12-18 00:43:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979 |
| Wow. I can't believe how difficult and bleak your lives are. Truly. I can't imagine a worse situation for someone to be in than to be at school. How hard it is - and I know, as I myself attend one of the worst schools in Scotland - to actually be forced to do work to make your future slightly less unbearable. On a less sarcastic note, I do hate most people in my school. I don't agree with any of the ******** rules, and I believe some of the teachers should never have become teachers. I don't, though, believe that nobody understands this, and I also don't believe that no one else has been in the same situation as me. I also find that to get the most out of school, it helps to have friends. I don't mean to offend or seem arrogant, but for some people in this thread, it seems they haven't even tried to have any semblance of social interaction in their lives. Like has already been mentioned, you do not know what life after school is like. For all you know, it could be much, much worse than the apparent hell of school. Enjoy school while you can, there's no point spending the first twenty or so years of your life in total misery, when it can be avoided. I promise you, there is no pot of gold at the end of that rainbow (school). Life is programmed to be hard so that the weak fall and the strong rise. It's called survival of the fittest, and unfortunately, I see a lot of weak. Even the ones who consider themselves strong..... | 2010-12-18 02:18:00 Author: KILLA_TODDZILLA Posts: 653 |
| I limed choold eccause ti taught me menay thigns that are userult. | 2010-12-18 03:02:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Wow Alex lol @everyone saying school is hard. This thread is ridiculous. I concede at being wrong..conditionally. I guess i had different experiences at school, what with no 'teacher' teaching(sitting behind their desks texting, reading newspapers, surfing the web) So my schools were ****, but i guess you all apparently have better schools,so..kudos. :I WTH!!!??? That was the BIGGEST 180? turn around I have ever seen. I can almost forgive you now for that Santa suicide avatar my kid nearly saw. Good for you man. | 2010-12-18 03:29:00 Author: KILLA_TODDZILLA Posts: 653 |
| lool, so does that mean this thread is done now? | 2010-12-18 05:33:00 Author: Unknown User |
| First of all, you're accusing others of accusing. Little hypocritical? Secondly, 90% of the people I talk to say school is too much work. I'm speaking from my personal experiences, not "blindly complaining", let alone judging you. Heck, I'm giving suggestions, but at the end, do you read "do what you wish with your life"? Lastly, all great obstacles can be overcome with work and perserverence. Not to be banal, but Helen Keller learned to speak and the near-paralyzed have worked to lead normal lives, don't you think that people who think school is so hard can just work at it and then at least pass and get through it? I do.Also, where did anyone ever say not to go to others for help and where did I say someone wasn't trying? Nowhere. EDIT: If school is hard and someone isn't understanding it, go to the teacher, get tutored, ask a friend who understands. Just doing things such as that signifies that that person is at least attemping to learn. That's what I call at least "attempting to make school a priority". Obviously you're heated as you believe that comment was directed towards you ("And just throwing this out there..."), but also you completely missed everything I had to say, and unfortunately don't understand it. Not blaming you for that...Also I didn't accuse anyone, and if I did, I did it rightfully so. Basically I said, if you jump to a conclusion and act on it you aren't helping anyone, sorry but you can't argue with that statement. (Would you jump off a cliff because you believe SO much that somehow it is only feet deep, yet for it may go miles, without looking? If that's you than...well you can figure that problem out yourself) "don't you think that people who think school is so hard can just work at it and then at least pass and get through it? I do." -I'll just let you stare at this one and it's following context... -this is the funniest one though, as it shows you didn't take the time to actually read what I wrote... "Also, where did anyone ever say not to go to others for help and where did I say someone wasn't trying? Nowhere." -Wait, I just remembered this one... "Secondly, 90% of the people I talk to say school is too much work. I'm speaking from my personal experiences, not 'blindly complaining'" I am not feeling confident with eye of the crowd. Maybe I have been to open...allow me to walk away from your misconceptions, as I now feel they are causing a dwindling of my temper. I am sorry for my rudeness, if any shown. I will leave now, but will let my words rest here as they hold true, and as I promised myself to keep them from those who read them in mirrors... My apologies, I have stirred a muck my mask... | 2010-12-18 05:36:00 Author: Unknown User |
| And then ^that^ happened :l | 2010-12-18 05:39:00 Author: Unknown User |
| school is what you make from it | 2010-12-18 10:17:00 Author: Unknown User |
| ^This^ Exactly what I was saying. Obviously you're heated as you believe that comment was directed towards you ("And just throwing this out there..."), but also you completely missed everything I had to say, and unfortunately don't understand it. Not blaming you for that...Also I didn't accuse anyone, and if I did, I did it rightfully so. Basically I said, if you jump to a conclusion and act on it you aren't helping anyone, sorry but you can't argue with that statement. (Would you jump off a cliff because you believe SO much that somehow it is only feet deep, yet for it may go miles, without looking? If that's you than...well you can figure that problem out yourself) "don't you think that people who think school is so hard can just work at it and then at least pass and get through it? I do." -I'll just let you stare at this one and it's following context... -this is the funniest one though, as it shows you didn't take the time to actually read what I wrote... "Also, where did anyone ever say not to go to others for help and where did I say someone wasn't trying? Nowhere." -Wait, I just remembered this one... "Secondly, 90% of the people I talk to say school is too much work. I'm speaking from my personal experiences, not 'blindly complaining'" I am not feeling confident with eye of the crowd. Maybe I have been to open...allow me to walk away from your misconceptions, as I now feel they are causing a dwindling of my temper. I am sorry for my rudeness, if any shown. I will leave now, but will let my words rest here as they hold true, and as I promised myself to keep them from those who read them in mirrors... My apologies, I have stirred a muck my mask... And yes, I read the whole thing. Four times over. I understand fully. | 2010-12-18 17:33:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979 |
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