Archive: 11 posts

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Like most people i can't wait for the second game to come out, one of the features im looking forward to the most is the ability to have top down levels, I didn't make the beta so was just woundering if someone could give me some info on how this feature actually works? How many layers do you have to play with? is it still 3 plus 4 thin? Can you jump or use the bounce pads? What about the grappling hook? What about gravity? how does top down affect this? Any feedback would be helpfull in my early level designs for when it comes out. Cheers!

2010-12-03 13:43:00 Author: thespacemonkey187 Posts: 318

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Top down is just an illusion. You're still using the same layers and same ... everything, you're just drawing it to appear from a bird's eye view. Controllinator seats can orient sackpeople/bots to appear top down as well, to heighten the illusion. Gravity doesn't operate in a "top down" fashion, etc. You'd have to simulate gravity going into the screen if you needed it.

2010-12-03 13:45:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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It's basically the same as trying to make an LBP1 top-down. There aren't any "top-down" settings. It's just building a level up with 0 g and a concept you want to use. You can jump, but not into the foreground layers, and bouncepads work normally as well. So it's just using LBP2 Tools to make a better topdown...

2010-12-03 13:47:00 Author: Richasackboy Posts: 619

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LBP2 only allows to utilize it more, everything else is same as in LBP1

2010-12-03 14:20:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Cheers guys, one last question though, how does water interact with the top down illusion?

2010-12-03 15:50:00 Author: thespacemonkey187 Posts: 318

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Well... it would be a line. Top-down IS THE SAME EDIT MODE as "un"top-down, so the water is exactly the same.

2010-12-03 16:06:00 Author: ZeroZ30o Posts: 157

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Well yea, depends, water physics (things going to surface) could ruin the illusion and if there gonna be water surface visible it definitly ruins the effect. But if you play it well it might be useful for something, underwater topdown view for example, i think controllinator on holo should not be effected by water.

2010-12-03 16:10:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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On the plus side, there are materials available that look like water, so while you can't really use the real water in a top down level, there are ways of mimicking it.

2010-12-03 17:56:00 Author: Chazprime Posts: 587

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Can someone get the link to the video of craft earth crusaders? That should show this guy the stuff visually. (note, the 3d layers are used in that)

2010-12-03 17:58:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-JFB0YqB0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-JFB0YqB0

2010-12-03 18:01:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Oh yea you can use layer glitch in it and make buildings or mountains but only 3-4 hights levels would be playable That airship tech demo by jump_button is good example of using background layers as lower layers in top-down

2010-12-03 18:23:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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