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I am finally on the midst of caving in and finally getting a PS3 in the near future, finally coming up with some money. As such, I was wondering: first of all, does LBP2 signal the complete phasing out of the original LBP? Or will it exist in conjunction with the original? Secondly, percentage-wise, how have they harmonized compatibility between the two games; have they managed 100% b/c, or something considerably lesser?

2010-11-29 22:28:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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LBP2 will pretty much decimate LBP1. I honestly can't see anyone actually staying in LBP1 after LBP2 is released, again, because LBP2 is pretty much 100% backwards compatible. Everything possible in LBP1 is possible in LBP2... There are a few items that are only available in LBP1 (they probably won't let you collect all the materials from LBP1 to use in LBP2, you'd need to obtain them in LBP1 to get them in LBP2)... but yeah. PRetty much 100% backwards compatibility and LBP2 will phase out LBP1 completely aside from a few people who, well, TBQH, are just insane :/ I'd still recommend getting LBP1 though if only to get the materials that won't be in LBP2 most likely :/

2010-11-29 23:07:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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Once LBP2 is realised, a few months after i'll go back to the original and see what kind of levels are being uploaded. Probably more costume scams.

2010-11-29 23:22:00 Author: Cysero Posts: 13

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Once LBP2 is realised, a few months after i'll go back to the original and see what kind of levels are being uploaded. Probably more costume scams. all levels published on LBP1 will be on LBP2.

2010-11-29 23:33:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Could I possibly get a few more opinions from seasoned players and creators in the know?

2010-11-30 04:23:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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Well it won't compliantly wipe LBP1 but surly you wont see any good levels there, but how knows there might be people likeing classic stuff

2010-11-30 04:28:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I don't see why anyone would keep playing LBP1. Even if they like the classic stuff. Unless they just don't have money to buy LBP2. As far as I can tell it's completely backwards compatible. Some of the switches are different looking now, but you can still use the old ones if you've captured them if you wanted to. The only reason I would have the first game if I was you is to get all the stuff from story mode. Even if you buy DLC for LBP1 it gets transferred over. So theres all those goodies and costumes as well. Even the game of the year objects and stuff get transferred. I haven't noticed anything that doesn't get transferred over except the LBP1 switches, which like i said, you can do that yourself.

2010-11-30 04:38:00 Author: Kitkasumass Posts: 494

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LBP2 will pretty much decimate LBP1. I honestly can't see anyone actually staying in LBP1 after LBP2 is released, again, because LBP2 is pretty much 100% backwards compatible. Everything possible in LBP1 is possible in LBP2... There are a few items that are only available in LBP1 (they probably won't let you collect all the materials from LBP1 to use in LBP2, you'd need to obtain them in LBP1 to get them in LBP2)... but yeah. PRetty much 100% backwards compatibility and LBP2 will phase out LBP1 completely aside from a few people who, well, TBQH, are just insane :/ I'd still recommend getting LBP1 though if only to get the materials that won't be in LBP2 most likely :/ You could probably also wind up downloading a 100% save file of LBP1 from gamefaqs or another site and you won't have to buy LBP1 at all. There's still LBP1's story mode and its 20 community level slots, so if you do want to get both LBP1 and 2 you can use LBP1's level slots for your basic sackboy levels and LBP2's 20 level slots for everything else.

2010-11-30 04:51:00 Author: JKthree Posts: 1125

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Man, I'm either getting the wrong impression, or the game will suck... Forgive my ignorance and conceded-sounding tone, but from what I can gather: the new create mode is horrible, the new tools are minimal, and there exist bug/glitches that are potentially game-breaking (god glitch, game not prompting saving when exiting Create Mode, etc)... Please tell me that my fears/claims are not justified and that I'm just being a troll... In addition, I worry that the level quality will depreciate considerable; the "spammy" levels hitting the cool pages, etc. I just don't have a lot faith in the community.

2010-11-30 05:21:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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the new create mode is horrible, the new tools are minimal Invert that statement for truth.

2010-11-30 05:34:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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I would appreciate some further responses to my inquiry; in addition, what about the existing tools from LBP? Are they for the most part there, or is MM starting anew?

2010-11-30 05:47:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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All old tools are in LBP2 and more. It sounds pretty buggy because its still in beta

2010-11-30 06:03:00 Author: waD_Delma Posts: 282

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Everything that was in the game is still available but there is a ton of new content available - instead of using archaic piston and magnetic key based systems to implement logic, you can use elegant, circuitboard based solutions. Of course if you still want to use pistons you can. Have you seen any media of the game? Also any "game breaking glitches" are contained within the beta trial, they are not going to be in the retail version.

2010-11-30 06:05:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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what foofles said...honestly IDK where you got the idea that the game will suck....LBP2 is like LBP but BETTER you can use everything from LBP in LBP2 it has BETTER GRAPHICS the pictures taken are HD you can make MOVIES now and TOP DOWN and PUZZLES and RACING, FPS, ETC you can make NPCs with sackbots you can bounce around with bouncepads instead of piston operated platforms you can shoot WATER now and ANYTHING you want with the creatinator need I say more? cuz I could but it's wasting time tbh cuz in the end its saying the same thing...the game will be AWESOME so just buy it....you'll come back and thank us when you finally do

2010-11-30 06:28:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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To answer your question: I believe i've heard that Media Molecule will shut down LBP1's servers when LBP2 releases, thereby disabling LBP1's Online function. So you can still play LBP1, just not online anymore.

2010-11-30 06:39:00 Author: robbit10 Posts: 450

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To answer your question: I believe i've heard that Media Molecule will shut down LBP1's servers when LBP2 releases, thereby disabling LBP1's Online function. So you can still play LBP1, just not online anymore. I sincerely doubt that's true, Mm aren't so mean to force players to buy the new game just so they can go online.

2010-11-30 06:43:00 Author: booXely Posts: 654

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I sincerely doubt that's true, Mm aren't so mean to force players to buy the new game just so they can go online. yeah plus it wouldnt make sense to do that since they made that update like a month ago to add Mm picks and Queueing and stuff....seriously what would be the point of adding those only to shut off the servers come LBP2?

2010-11-30 06:54:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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I sincerely doubt that's true, Mm aren't so mean to force players to buy the new game just so they can go online. They share the same level server, do they not (or will do anyway) So doesn't make sense in that case to block access to the server for LBP1 when it's in use by LBP2. That would just be spiteful. "I believe I've heard" = speculative rumour

2010-11-30 06:56:00 Author: mnimmo1986 Posts: 552

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seriously what would be the point of adding those only to shut off the servers come LBP2? To make us sad.

2010-11-30 07:03:00 Author: booXely Posts: 654

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I may well be on the verge of being convinced

2010-11-30 08:03:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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Man, I'm either getting the wrong impression, or the game will suck... Forgive my ignorance and conceded-sounding tone, but from what I can gather: the new create mode is horrible, the new tools are minimal, and there exist bug/glitches that are potentially game-breaking (god glitch, game not prompting saving when exiting Create Mode, etc)... Please tell me that my fears/claims are not justified and that I'm just being a troll... In addition, I worry that the level quality will depreciate considerable; the "spammy" levels hitting the cool pages, etc. I just don't have a lot faith in the community. Very well then, your fears/claims are not justified and yer just being a troll... Its still in BETA where they find and patch all those bugs, the BETA is meant to be buggy, a bug-less beta is basically a demo, actually it would even more than a demo, and would be utterly pointless unless it was to test, I forgot what its called (darn you english failing me again! >_<) to test server capacity, or something like that. All old tools are in LBP2 and more. It sounds pretty buggy because its still in beta THAT is why there's a BETA, because its still buggy... BETA test serve to find, identufy, and patch all those bugs, so the game is as glitch-free as possible upon release. Also, BETA Phase is basically the last one, when did you expect teh BETA phase to be, before Alpha? BETA is] supposed to be close to the release date, that's the point... To answer your question: I believe i've heard that Media Molecule will shut down LBP1's servers when LBP2 releases, thereby disabling LBP1's Online function. So you can still play LBP1, just not online anymore. Please don't spread rumors without source or base/ in pure guess, as some people tend to take these guesses as "facts" and spread them around as such, which is not really good. There has been no official announcement of such, and au contraire, all previews interviews and Q&As indicate LBP1 online activity will continue as long as LBP2's does and maybe future instalments to the LBP series so not to "separate" the community.

2010-11-30 08:24:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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I hear that LBP 2 will be fully compatible with all LBP 1 content, not just levels; does this in fact mean that one can download LBP1 DLC such as water to LBP2 via PSN?

2010-11-30 10:24:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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I hear that LBP 2 will be fully compatible with all LBP 1 content, not just levels; does this in fact mean that one can download LBP1 DLC such as water to LBP2 via PSN? I don't understand what you mean but here's how it is: play LBP2, and it'll ASK you to IMPORT your LBP1 save and when you IMPORT that save whatever stuff you have in there (levels, objects, stickers, costumes, etc.) will transfer over to LBP2 as for LBP1 DLC...if you bought it legally with your account and it's downloaded on your PS3 then LBP2 will automatically have it. so if you bought the pirates of the Caribbean pack and installed it to your PS3 then YES you will have water in LBP2 (although I think water will be included in LBP2 for free anyways...but it's just a rumor and not FACT)

2010-11-30 10:28:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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Very well then... I was waiting for you to get in on the act with one of your lovely rants well said silver

2010-11-30 10:52:00 Author: Skalio- Posts: 920

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I don't understand what you mean but here's how it is: play LBP2, and it'll ASK you to IMPORT your LBP1 save and when you IMPORT that save whatever stuff you have in there (levels, objects, stickers, costumes, etc.) will transfer over to LBP2 as for LBP1 DLC...if you bought it legally with your account and it's downloaded on your PS3 then LBP2 will automatically have it. so if you bought the pirates of the Caribbean pack and installed it to your PS3 then YES you will have water in LBP2 (although I think water will be included in LBP2 for free anyways...but it's just a rumor and not FACT) I'm referring to downloading lbp 1 DLC onto LBP2, as if it were natively designed for the game

2010-11-30 11:15:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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You just download DLC. Both games would detect the ownership of the DLC and unlock it accordingly. Note that the DLC is not downloaded when you purchase it from the store - it merely gets unlocked at this point.

2010-11-30 11:27:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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@zeldarocks: I think the DLC doesn't work like that. There is a separate place on the PS3's harddisk for DLC, and both LBP1 and LBP2 recognize this format. When you download an update with new DLC, the download is added to this place, and both games will see it and use it. So it's not really LBP1 DLC, it's just generic LBP DLC that happened to be released while LBP2 wasn't yet released. ... a bug-less beta is basically a demo, actually it would even more than a demo, and would be utterly pointless unless it was to test, I forgot what its called (darn you english failing me again! >_<) ... Connectivity?

2010-11-30 11:27:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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Connectivity? Close but no, I think its called a Stress test BETA or something, usually an open BETA made to see if the servers will be able to sustain as many players/ connections as they expec there to be, without crashing/ shutting down suddendly. You know, kinda like what they did with MAG and such to make sure the game would be able to withstand so many players at once.

2010-11-30 12:04:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Close but no, I think its called a Stress test BETA or something, usually an open BETA made to see if the servers will be able to sustain as many players/ connections as they expec there to be, without crashing/ shutting down suddendly. You know, kinda like what they did with MAG and such to make sure the game would be able to withstand so many players at once. Its to measure the young's modulus of the server Jk, Server stress is a real importance due to X number of people connecting and disconnecting downloading uploading all at the same time it can be a real struggle, it is the same reason why games like Call of Duty have so many network issues upon releaser because they always underestimate the strain on the server.

2010-11-30 12:36:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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@robbit10 Really? I don't think they would do that straight away, but maybe after a few months. Some people just don't have the money to buy lbp2 on release.

2010-11-30 12:40:00 Author: Radishlord Posts: 706

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Can you guys unequivocally corroborate that all the features from LBP 1 will be available in LBP 2 Create M<ode?

2010-11-30 12:53:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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@robbit10 Really? I don't think they would do that straight away, but maybe after a few months. Some people just don't have the money to buy lbp2 on release. LBP1 and LBP2 share the same servers, if they closed LBP1's online then the levels wouldn't be on LBP2.

2010-11-30 12:55:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Therefore if open Betas are used more for 'stress-testing' of servers that will explain why LBP2 is unlikely to get one: Quite simply the servers are tested by LBP1 as they are the same ones, would i be right? And anyway there is the demo in December which may just be another form of open Beta... Also it would be quite nice if owners of both LBP1 and LPB2 could have combined level spaces, e.g We have 20 in each so could we not have 40 in LBP2 or mix and matched?

2010-11-30 12:57:00 Author: Unknown User

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Again I ask, can you guys unequivocally corroborate that all the stock features/materials, etc from LBP 1 will be available in LBP 2 Create Mode?

2010-11-30 13:01:00 Author: zeldarocks Posts: 120

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Again I ask, can you guys unequivocally corroborate that all the stock features/materials, etc from LBP 1 will be available in LBP 2 Create Mode? As I can tell, Yes! Although some things may look different (Switches mainly), but everything in LBP1 (Features/Materials) still exist or are more expanded upon in the Beta, and I personally doubt this shall change in the final game. Please, someone correct me if I am mistaken...

2010-11-30 13:05:00 Author: Unknown User

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That's been the line since the very, very first announcement of LBP2. I honestly don't see why there is any doubt, especially after several people have told you the same thing.

2010-11-30 13:10:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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@zeldarocks: I' m not sure what you mean. If you have collected everything in LBP1, then yes, certainly, you get that stuff when you import your LBP1 profile into LBP2. But if you don't have LBP1, then you don't have all those materials, objects, costumes and stickers, because LBP2 has an entire new set of collectables. The non-collectable stuff, the tools and gadgets in the tools bag, is all available in LBP2, though some are slightly modified or enhanced to fit the new game.

2010-11-30 13:11:00 Author: Rogar Posts: 2284

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Again I ask, can you guys unequivocally corroborate that all the stock features/materials, etc from LBP 1 will be available in LBP 2 Create Mode? I think no one has answered because you keep asking the exact same question in different forms so to answer all your SAME questions YES EVERYTHING FROM LBP1 IS IN LBP2 OKAY?!?!

2010-11-30 13:11:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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That's been the line since the very, very first announcement of LBP2. I honestly don't see why there is any doubt, especially after several people have told you the same thing. That's what I thought and I am surprised to see people still questioning it, yet again there may be people out there who don't spend all there free time on the Beta, or watching videos and searching the internet for things in relation to LBP2 like i and most likely others do. (Well maybe all the time is a bit extreme, but you get the point). Again I ask, can you guys unequivocally corroborate that all the stock features/materials, etc from LBP 1 will be available in LBP 2 Create Mode? Quite simply LBP2 is basically a big (And I mean Humongous) Expansion pack for LBP except it is on a disk, simply put it this way: You never lost all your items when you downloaded the Pirates of the Caribbean DLC or the Metal Gear Solid DLC did you? Well LBP2 will do the same, everything you had should remain.

2010-11-30 13:20:00 Author: Unknown User

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Adding on to the BC, you get the items from a previously backed up profile. Upon starting the game, you will be asked if you want to import a profile. The profiles you can choose are all backed up ones from LBP1. You can however change the profile later, and get all your current stuff. And yes, LBP2 will destroy LBP1.

2010-11-30 13:29:00 Author: Testudini Posts: 3262

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