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Kinda veering off of the top-down path, I've been wanting to work on a sidescrolling action platformer for awhile using a similar battle system found in God of War or Devil May Cry. And here's the concept result... http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lu60mKzsdms/TNnZ-ZEmCbI/AAAAAAAAAEw/kLvQQnlvKpw/s512/photo.JPG Similar to my other action levels like Craft Earth Crusaders, the attacking will consist of multiple hit combos. This time though... as you defeat enemies, you can use your score to either upgrade your attacks or purchase new Guardians with different attack/defense types. I'll also be using a similar animation system like the one I used in my Gundam Wing level for lots of flexibility. And there's the custom jumping/double jump/dash shenanigans that are essential in any action game as well. I'll post vids when I get a semi-decent prototype working. Stay tuned! EDIT: Derp, vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmZPDMJzk0s

2010-11-10 00:00:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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That looks brilliant! are you going to make it transparent? Can't wait till it's done.

2010-11-10 00:13:00 Author: dragonember Posts: 607

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Not so much transparent, but I will be heavily using the hologram material to make it work. From what I've messed with with simple tests, it's definitely going to work well.

2010-11-10 00:39:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Well if anyone can make such a thing work its you, can't wait to see it

2010-11-10 01:15:00 Author: Littlebigdude805 Posts: 1924

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... :'( I've been planning out some similar, but different ideas for my own games, although they are somewhat different. Also when you get the character working can you put up a video? I want to see the awesomeness + I wanna see how similar my idea is to yours...

2010-11-10 02:03:00 Author: Tomeh999 Posts: 763

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Sounds interesting and complex, and that drawing-concept looks awesome!

2010-11-10 02:25:00 Author: X-FROGBOY-X Posts: 1800

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Of course I'll post vids once stuff gets rolling. As for now, the key thing is getting the look right. I'm not too worried about the logic and the execution as I know they'll be good to go. So far so good though. =) http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lu60mKzsdms/TNpHRuAqHRI/AAAAAAAAAE0/nThvWxV3OXY/s640/IMG_1029.JPG

2010-11-10 07:20:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Man that looks so amazing. I have no social life now but when LBP2 comes out there will be no hope of it ever returning...

2010-11-10 09:00:00 Author: DarKnighT_0_9 Posts: 91

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Nice XD I had somthing like this in mind but like just hands. only thing that bug me now is it hard to make sackboy look like he doing anything and alot of the time just looks like he doing nothing. they is acting but it still limited.

2010-11-10 09:25:00 Author: jump_button Posts: 1014

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It looks crazy wonder how gameplay will look like

2010-11-10 10:22:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Hmm...looks really interesting. I can't wait to see how it turns out in the end and I hope you can do a good bit before the beta ends

2010-11-10 14:12:00 Author: Dragonvarsity Posts: 5208

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Nice XD I had somthing like this in mind but like just hands. only thing that bug me now is it hard to make sackboy look like he doing anything and alot of the time just looks like he doing nothing. they is acting but it still limited. That's pretty much why I opted to go this route if I wanted to make an action-esque game with a Sackbot. There's only so much you can do with the acting and in the heat of the moment, it's hard to make their movements noticeable. I'm down using the Blue Dragon/Persona route. ^^ It looks crazy wonder how gameplay will look like I want it to feel like a slower and slightly less wacky 2D version of this (which is kinda where I got more inspiration for this project): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_Ob3HELcY

2010-11-10 19:35:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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That's pretty much why I opted to go this route if I wanted to make an action-esque game with a Sackbot. There's only so much you can do with the acting and in the heat of the moment, it's hard to make their movements noticeable. I'm down using the Blue Dragon/Persona route. ^^ I want it to feel like a slower and slightly less wacky 2D version of this (which is kinda where I got more inspiration for this project): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_Ob3HELcY Sounds cool, im sure i'll play it when you get it done :3 *mew

2010-11-10 19:41:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Sounds cool, im sure i'll play it when you get it done :3 *mew I should have waaaaaaaaaaaaay more time now after work to build it since I'll be finally finished with grad school this weekend. =)

2010-11-10 20:09:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lu60mKzsdms/TNpHRuAqHRI/AAAAAAAAAE0/nThvWxV3OXY/s640/IMG_1029.JPG Wow these pics look cool! Looks quite different from my plan... (Yes! ) Anyway... the 2 animation things to the right, is the top one just a finished version of the one below it? I'm asking this because it looks like it's missing something... maybe the eyes?

2010-11-10 20:28:00 Author: Tomeh999 Posts: 763

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Anyway... the 2 animation things to the right, is the top one just a finished version of the one below it? I'm asking this because it looks like it's missing something... maybe the eyes? I still need to do sticker work on it, but imagine the guardian showing its back as it punches with its right fist.

2010-11-10 21:15:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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You're so sickeningly good with the visuals. I can juggle data (http://sifterfund.com/images/single_view.gif) and work the logic but I'll never be close to your animation and visual capabilities. Are you on MM's or Sony's payroll nowdays btw, since you're able to finish so many projects? I'm more interested in side scrollers than top-downers to be honest. Can't wait to see how this turns out, good luck.

2010-11-10 21:26:00 Author: Linque Posts: 607

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Nah, I'm alright. I'd probably do a little better if I had the time, tbh. xD I still have to see if I can make the visuals coherent enough to my personal standards. Are you on MM's or Sony's payroll nowdays btw, since you're able to finish so many projects? LOL, last year I was. And although not directly, it was thanks to Sony involvement I'm currently getting some decent secondary compensation right now on top of my well paying day job. =) Just like my ideas, I have too much going on IRL all at once, lol.

2010-11-10 23:57:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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this looks... EPIC!!! I wish i had the lbp2 beta maybe you could have it so that if you kill enough enemies this bar fills up, and when it's full Your gaurdian transforms into a more powerful armored version for a limiteed time making your attacks more powerful and your defenses stronger.

2010-11-11 01:01:00 Author: daddy_doodle Posts: 199

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this looks... EPIC!!! I wish i had the lbp2 beta maybe you could have it so that if you kill enough enemies this bar fills up, and when it's full Your gaurdian transforms into a more powerful armored version for a limiteed time making your attacks more powerful and your defenses stronger. LOL, that's basically what I have in my Craft Earth Crusaders level.

2010-11-11 01:06:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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oh *facepalm* and i've actually watched your level so... *facepalm again* but will that happen in this level? still the "making it transform into something cooler looking" part would be awesome. off topic: i loved your steampunk samurai level, is there any plans for more steampunk levels?

2010-11-11 01:16:00 Author: daddy_doodle Posts: 199

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As you said in the OP there will be multiple guardians... I know this is looking ahead, but how are you going to have a leveled out guardian system to appeal to all player types? What I mean is, a lot of people play in different ways, for example I would probably use a guardian that is quick and/or has large combos, how will you make a guardian with that play type be an equal match to a guardian that is really powerful and/or defensive?

2010-11-11 02:05:00 Author: Tomeh999 Posts: 763

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As you said in the OP there will be multiple guardians... I know this is looking ahead, but how are you going to have a leveled out guardian system to appeal to all player types? What I mean is, a lot of people play in different ways, for example I would probably use a guardian that is quick and/or has large combos, how will you make a guardian with that play type be an equal match to a guardian that is really powerful and/or defensive? As with Craft Earth Crusaders, the different styles (Guardians) will possess certain traits that the others don't, but will still be balanced appropriately. If you want to stick with one type throughout a level, that's definitely your call. But as you will be able to switch Guardians on the fly, it's more important to use them in the right situations than anything else and the gameplay will expect you to do so. Although... you can be rewarded if you stray the expected path. For example, when you have the Battle Guardian (the red one), you have meaty combos, but no projectiles. If you switch to the Gunner Guardian, you have projectiles, faster movement, and can float temporarily. Yet you take more damage. This of course can lead to some fun platforming puzzles, certain ways to kill a boss, etc. Remember, you're still controlling "your sackboy" as the Guardian will always be following you. Just think of it as an extended personality trait, kinda like in Persona. off topic: i loved your steampunk samurai level, is there any plans for more steampunk levels? Thanks man! But yeah, ideas are there for a sequel of sorts. =)

2010-11-11 03:12:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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yay!!! Wait is it lbp1 or lbp2?

2010-11-11 03:24:00 Author: daddy_doodle Posts: 199

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yay!!! Wait is it lbp1 or lbp2? LBP2 mang.

2010-11-11 17:21:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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before or after release? Will you recreate this level for the full game if it's popular enough? Will this be multiplayer?

2010-11-11 17:26:00 Author: daddy_doodle Posts: 199

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How many players will you be able to have playing in this at the same time? I guess you might not be able to answer that right now, because if you do want to make it multiplayer, that might end up impossible do to large amount of logic, or it will make the level(s) a lot shorter. So answer this when you can.

2010-11-11 20:22:00 Author: Tomeh999 Posts: 763

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This level is only meant to be 1 player.

2010-11-11 21:36:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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This level is only meant to be 1 player. Hmmm... I see... Seriously though, I don't know why I ask these questions, after all I am not in the Beta, and I won't be able to play this.

2010-11-11 22:46:00 Author: Tomeh999 Posts: 763

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LOL spam account. Anyway, I got the punching animation down. Looks decent at the moment, but with a little tweaking, it'll look much better. Time to throw in the hard attacks now. =)

2010-11-12 09:20:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Spambot is spammy. And banned. Anyhoo.,. Mr. Show, slightly off topic, but I have 2 questions regarding hologram animations: Are you using shaped hologram for your frames, or are you stickering them (just out of curiousity, but it might be relevant to 2) Do you have any specific methodology for lining up of frames, becauseI had some major fail when attempting that

2010-11-12 10:56:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Anyhoo.,. Mr. Show, slightly off topic, but I have 2 questions regarding hologram animations: Are you using shaped hologram for your frames, or are you stickering them (just out of curiousity, but it might be relevant to 2) Do you have any specific methodology for lining up of frames, becauseI had some major fail when attempting that Hmm good questions i wonder that my self, i use to Sprite and in the past at first i'd line things up by the under ball shape of the head... but thats not good... its best to line things up by where the heart/MidTorso would be on the character, if i remember right *mew

2010-11-12 11:24:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Spambot is spammy. And banned. Anyhoo.,. Mr. Show, slightly off topic, but I have 2 questions regarding hologram animations: Are you using shaped hologram for your frames, or are you stickering them (just out of curiousity, but it might be relevant to 2) Do you have any specific methodology for lining up of frames, becauseI had some major fail when attempting that Haha, thanks for that. As for your questions, they're not really off topic at all. 1) These holograms are shaped and are actually several pieces of holograms glued together or connected by pistons, etc. The stickering again is primarily for detailing. 2) Well, I have a base idle animation hologram. Any additional animation holograms added is essentially glued to the base animation hologram after all the crazy logic is applied, similar to how my Gundam Wing level worked. But of course that's all done after all the frames and logic that I want are complete as the final work just looks like a character from the Matrix with all the wires coming out of it. The fun (or not) part about this is that I have to double up every frame and logic set as I need to create a facing left and facing right setup for every single move starting with the idle animation... and I'm thinking at least 15-20 some odd unique movements, not including the 2 extra Guardians I'm planning to make as well. lol.

2010-11-12 17:01:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Are you planning to make a video after it's done?

2010-11-13 00:07:00 Author: dragonember Posts: 607

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Are you planning to make a video after it's done? Of course mang. =)

2010-11-13 04:55:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lu60mKzsdms/TN_afJpH3OI/AAAAAAAAAFE/6d4PF2MBtnM/s640/Photo%20Nov%2014%2C%204%2045%2048.jpg Logic for the 5-hit combo facing both directions, including double jump logic. It's nuts having to think about the timing and button cancels to ensure this thing plays like a God of War or Devil May Cry. Still haven't implemented the hard attacks or the rest of the guardians, lol.

2010-11-14 12:50:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Pft, you call that logic?? There's like 20 components there total

2010-11-14 12:56:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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It still hurts my brain.

2010-11-14 18:00:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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That might not seem like much to rtm223 but it looks crazy to me. I made a spider machine in the beta and all it did was jump, hang from a winch, and shoot out webs and even that rattled my brain.

2010-11-14 18:08:00 Author: Kitkasumass Posts: 494

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Was messing around with ideas for the Gunner Guardian and worked out a DMC4 like Devil Arm game mechanic where you pull enemies to you, grab or push certain objects, and pull yourself up like the grapple arm when finding certain grab points or when fighting large bosses. Hopefully I can get it worked out later on this week since I'm on business trip right now and forgot my PS3's power cable. :S You will also be able to use the Gunner Guardian like a twin stick shooter depending on the situation.

2010-11-15 21:31:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Looks really cool, can't wait tell its done!

2010-11-19 17:08:00 Author: SackRacer77 Posts: 153

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmZPDMJzk0s Haven't spent too much time on it aside from drawing up logic stuff during my recent business trip. Here's what it looks like as of now... because of all the existing frames, it's too sluggish for my tastes. I will probably go in another direction with this, so stay tuned. Until then, enjoy the vid I suppose, lol.

2010-11-21 00:57:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Awesome video! One quick question though, how did you get it to turn around when you did?

2010-11-21 13:51:00 Author: dragonember Posts: 607

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You tried to use control override to sync sackbot movement with guardian?

2010-11-21 14:13:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Awesome video! One quick question though, how did you get it to turn around when you did? It's just directional input connected to the different frames. You tried to use control override to sync sackbot movement with guardian? Control override? Whatever that is, it works for me, lol. And on another note, I've put this project on the backburner for now. Although, I've applied the same logic to a top down action level with a similar goal and it feels sooooooooo much better.

2010-11-22 17:10:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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Just to throw in my 2 cents (for what they're worth.... ) I was hoping you'd keep working on the top-down concept and polish off a full adventure. I had such a blast in that level, and the possibilities boggle the mind.

2010-11-23 03:37:00 Author: CCubbage Posts: 4430

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WTF?!? I was not informed of this at all but anyways lol ****nit man you and me must be brothers you love everything i love from mecha to summoning monsters to do your bidding...cept you were born with the creative juices instead of me lol can't wait to see this come out live so I can control a guardian

2010-11-23 11:57:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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Just to throw in my 2 cents (for what they're worth.... ) I was hoping you'd keep working on the top-down concept and polish off a full adventure. I had such a blast in that level, and the possibilities boggle the mind. Derp, I've actually scrapped this project for now because I really didn't like the way it was headed. Luckily for you, I've implemented the logic from this into another top-down concept which in turn will also trickle into the Craft Earth Crusaders stuff. It's muuuuuuuuuuuuuch better than before. I'll post a new thread regarding the entire "Craft Earth" top down series, lol. WTF?!? I was not informed of this at all but anyways lol ****nit man you and me must be brothers you love everything i love from mecha to summoning monsters to do your bidding...cept you were born with the creative juices instead of me lol can't wait to see this come out live so I can control a guardian LOL! I'm more than likely going to skip on this one for now but you might see the guardian show up in a different form sometime soon. =)

2010-11-24 20:45:00 Author: gevurah22 Posts: 1476

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/walk in/ That japanese game vid on page 1 looks O.P. ... /walks out/ Your stuff looks amazing!!

2010-11-24 22:45:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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ashame it's over...was looking foward for DMC like fighting with my character and his own guardian...oh well let's see how this new version comes out

2010-11-24 22:59:00 Author: Shadowcrazy Posts: 3365

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