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Do you share passwords with friends/family?
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| Today while I am at work, I received a text message from my brother-in-law asking for the administrator password on my computer. He was trying to scan something at my house (he has a key) and had to reboot my computer which then asked for a password after restarting. I told him that I was sorry, but I couldn't share that password with him. This prompted my brother-in-law to ask what the big deal was with sharing the password with family. Did I not trust him? I was ok with him having a key to our house, so why not the password to the computer? My wife also thought I was being a bit over protective and that I was making a big deal out of it. So, I was curious about how others view the situation and how you would handle it? Would you share your password? Does it depend on the person asking? Was I making a big deal out of nothing? | 2010-10-28 18:21:00 Author: mrsupercomputer  Posts: 1335 |
There is only one person who knows any of my passwords and that is my friend Adam, he actually knows my password to this site not that he would ever want it. I know his main password too hint it starts with an 8  But none of my family know any of my passwords, especially not the password to this computer which is 18 characters. II feel that to let someone know your password you would really need to trust them, if you have anything on a computer that you wouldn't want a robber to get to then why would you want your family to get to it. That being said Adam knows my main password but it doesn't bother me, that is because the password he knows holds nothing that I care to much about. I don't use it for any computers or any type of banking information. | 2010-10-28 18:27:00 Author: robotiod  Posts: 2662 |
| Hmmmm.... I suppose it all comes down to what you're trying to protect. Personally, I don't have a password on my computer at the house. I let my wife pop on and use the computer any time she wants. I DO, however, have a password to get into source code, and an encrypted wireless router. If you're worried about people misusing the computer, maybe set up a separate login for guests on the machine so they don't need to access your profile? | 2010-10-28 18:30:00 Author: CCubbage  Posts: 4430 |
| All my passwords are diff, so if I gave you one, you'd still never get the others from it. I only give out passwords for things that don't really need to be kept secure to friends/family. | 2010-10-28 18:34:00 Author: Fishrock123  Posts: 1578 |
| I never share any passwords. And I never let anyone use my computer. As soon as you let anyone else use your computer when you aren't there, even if you trust them, bad things always happen... All my passwords are diff, so if I gave you one, you'd still never get the others from it. Same, but if I gave someone my computer password they wouldn't need the others because all sites etc log me on automatically. Another good reason not to share it.  | 2010-10-28 18:36:00 Author: Nuclearfish  Posts: 927 |
| I think I have good reasons for not sharing mine with him. First, he likes to tinker, that's why he needed the password in the first place, he was changing settings that required a reboot. I'm kind of protective of my computer and don't want him mucking with things. I feel like that is reasonable. If my wife asked for the password, I'd share it with her... just as long as she promised not to give it to her bro. If you're worried about people misusing the computer, maybe set up a separate login for guests on the machine so they don't need to access your profile? Yeah, I thought I set up a guest account for this very reason, but I guess not. I'll do that in the future. As soon as you let anyone else use your computer when you aren't there, even if you trust them, bad things always happen... Ha ha! Yep, that is kind of how I feel. | 2010-10-28 18:38:00 Author: mrsupercomputer Posts: 1335 |
| Twitter and LBPC are the only things I store passwords for. | 2010-10-28 18:43:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578 |
| its always ok to protect your stuff, after all you had a hard time earning it if you bought it, so its in your right to protect your property, if he wants so badly to tinker with a computer he should buy his own (not to be rude, but its true :/ ) And on a side note, I don't trust the normal windows protection password, that can be overridden easily by logging into the admin account on safe mode, I would rather set up a password in BIOS, now that's harder to overpass, the bad thing, if you forget that password you are doomed. | 2010-10-28 18:48:00 Author: Ragnarok  Posts: 898 |
| Depends on what the password is for really, but in most cases I do not give away my password. Unrelated but I also keep my internet personas a secret. None of my friends or family know any of the names I go by on the internet.  | 2010-10-28 18:49:00 Author: Syroc  Posts: 3193 |
| I doubt I would give out my password in that case as I know the type. In trying to help, they generally screw up stuff causing more harm than good. My girlfriend knows my basic ones in case something were to happen to me that has access to all the rest of them, but she would never give any of that info out. I use a cool little database program that stores all my passwords to my bank, credit card sites, as well as all my other stuff I do online including sites I support. It also can randomly generate passwords passwords of any length and requirement, including necessary patterns if needed. Some my find this handy.. it is called KeePass. Even to get in takes a password as well as a keyfile if desired. I like using it as that as even I don't know what they are and use passwords as huge as the site or system will allow. I simply copy and paste them in when needed. http://keepass.info/ | 2010-10-28 18:56:00 Author: jwwphotos  Posts: 11383 |
| Doesn't sound like you were being unreasonable to me. Fact is, it's your computer and that should be good enough reason for him or anyone else. I'm a pretty nice guy in general, but I have certain things I don't let people use because "I say so". Accessing my personal computer password or any other passwords is one of those "I say so's". Sharing passwords is never a good thing in my opinion, unless it's with someone who needs constant access to the password protected system. If he doesn't use or need access to it all the time, he doesn't need the password and should leave the tinkering and mucking about to you. | 2010-10-28 18:58:00 Author: Rustbukkit  Posts: 1737 |
| I doubt I would give out my password in that case as I know the type. In trying to help, they generally screw up stuff causing more harm than good. My girlfriend knows my basic ones in case something were to happen to me that has access to all the rest of them, but she would never give any of that info out. I use a cool little database program that stores all my passwords to my bank, credit card sites, as well as all my other stuff I do online including sites I support. It also can randomly generate passwords passwords of any length and requirement, including necessary patterns if needed. Some my find this handy.. it is called KeePass. Even to get in takes a password as well as a keyfile if desired. I like using it as that as even I don't know what they are and use passwords as huge as the site or system will allow. I simply copy and paste them in when needed. http://keepass.info/ hey! that's quite useful!, does it encrypts data to prevent stealing by spyware? because that's the first thing that a spyware will do, seek for passwords. | 2010-10-28 18:59:00 Author: Ragnarok Posts: 898 |
| Yup.. data is encrypted. Check out the features... and it is free!!! Though I am thinking of donating some money soon. It is a very cool bit of software. http://keepass.info/features.html#lnksec I also like how you can store entries in different categories as well as make up your own. Such as Homebanking, Internet, FTP - Websites Support, Network, email, etc.. | 2010-10-28 19:06:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| Yup.. data is encrypted. Check out the features... and it is free!!! Though I am thinking of donating some money soon. It is a very cool bit of software. http://keepass.info/features.html#lnksec I also like how you can store entries in different categories as well as make up your own. Such as Homebanking, Internet, FTP - Websites Support, Network, email, etc.. wow that's quite nice, i don't know, ive always feel more safe writing down on paper all my passwords and hiding them on a locked locker in my house, but the software should really come handy when trying to remember some passwords, I do have a hard time when I forget passwords >_< | 2010-10-28 19:09:00 Author: Ragnarok Posts: 898 |
| So, I was curious about how others view the situation and how you would handle it? If it's your computer, then I'd generally recommend against sharing the administrative password with anyone else. Even if you trust their intentions (i.e. that they wouldn't deliberately do anything 'naughty&apos , you shouldn't necessarily trust their competence (i.e. that they wouldn't accidentally do anything 'naughty&apos.If you accidentally delete some vital system file which makes the computer unusable, you only have yourself to blame, but if it's someone else, it could create a rift in your relationship. I think if you trust both their intentions and competence, then it's okay. | 2010-10-28 19:16:00 Author: Aya042  Posts: 2870 |
| After years of my dad messing up my computers, when I got my macbook pro last year I set him up with his own account. He has the passwords to my non essential/non monetary websites but there's no way I'd give anyone in my family the passwords for my bank, credit card, paypall or admin user on my computer. I love my family and I'd like to continue to do so - so ya, no passwords for them. | 2010-10-28 20:02:00 Author: Morgana25  Posts: 5983 |
| I use to share my password... but then my mom downloaded some videoplayer off some site... my computer got a trojan virus, then BOOP, everything was gone... So, yeah... i don't share it anymore | 2010-10-28 20:06:00 Author: Joshofsouls  Posts: 1569 |
| I don't share any of my passwords to anyone, mainly because of this, Even if you trust their intentions (i.e. that they wouldn't deliberately do anything 'naughty&apos , you shouldn't necessarily trust their competence (i.e. that they wouldn't accidentally do anything 'naughty&apos.If you accidentally delete some vital system file which makes the computer unusable, you only have yourself to blame, but if it's someone else, it could create a rift in your relationship. If no-one knows my password then they cannot be blamed for anything. I also, like Syroc, don't reveal to any family or friends that I'm SR20DETDOG. So, I was curious about how others view the situation and how you would handle it? Would you share your password? Does it depend on the person asking? Was I making a big deal out of nothing? Quite honestly I would have and do handle these situations pretty much how you did. I always feel a little bad when I reject someone but I'm used to it now. If I trust that someone will use my computer/phone/etc responsibly I'll unlock it for them but I still won't tell them the password. | 2010-10-28 22:20:00 Author: SR20DETDOG  Posts: 2431 |
| How selfish of him! He should accept that if someone doesn't want to share something with someone else, then they should drop it. Same applies for everything! And I fully agree with Aya042's point! Personally, I have three passwords. a weak one for my computer as I don't really have much confidential information, and feel comfortable sharing the password with most people I know. It doesn't actually need a password to log on, just to install certain apps. This consists only of letters. Then I have a medium password that I use for a lot of websites in general. I have only told three people close to me this password, but it's not that easy to remember anyway This one's letters and numbersFinally I have my strong password that I use for emails etc. Only I know this one, no-one else! This is made up from letters, numbers and symbols. Oh, and since we're on the topic of passwords: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COU5T-Wafa4 | 2010-10-28 22:36:00 Author: Weretigr  Posts: 2105 |
| My password starts with z and ends with omglbpistehbestgameevar. It'll take you a while to figure it out | 2010-10-28 23:39:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| HAHA! thats funny! thats one for the quote book! anyway.. yeah. i only share my password with my mom.. because i am fifteen, and that is one of her rules... so i use only one password. but it is a safe and secure password, it is random, and there are a few extra elements most wouldn't expect. ( u shall nevar hack me. ) | 2010-10-28 23:51:00 Author: flamesterart  Posts: 585 |
| My password starts with z and ends with omglbpistehbestgameevar. It'll take you a while to figure it out I tried it and it didn't work.  By the way, 4 out of 5 of your login attempts have been used, after all 5 have been used you won't be able to login again for 15 minutes. | 2010-10-28 23:56:00 Author: Doopz  Posts: 5592 |
| I tried it and it didn't work. By the way, 4 out of 5 of your login attempts have been used, after all 5 have been used you won't be able to login again for 15 minutes. Good thing I have 'Remember Me' checked | 2010-10-28 23:59:00 Author: Unknown User |
| jwwphotos knows my password but that's because he works on my computer. I wouldn't give it to anyone else...ever! | 2010-10-29 00:06:00 Author: TheCountessZ  Posts: 537 |
| jwwphotos knows my password but that's because he works on my computer. I wouldn't give it to anyone else...ever! Can I haz computar codez plz? H4H and Sandwich. | 2010-10-29 00:14:00 Author: Unknown User |
| Can I haz computar codez plz? H4H and Sandwich. You can have the sandwich...then you need to run along home. | 2010-10-29 00:20:00 Author: TheCountessZ Posts: 537 |
| You can have the sandwich...then you need to run along home. Let me grab my knee pads, helmet and crayons  Passwords are hard to think of >.< | 2010-10-29 00:21:00 Author: Unknown User |
| I personally trust my friends to know my passwords... but only to a certain extent. If they need to use a program (games, Word, etc.), then I tell them to log in on my computer. However, I prefer they do this when I'm around... and on their designated User. My admin profile is a strong password, along with my other site passwords. The longest one I had nearly broke the character limit with over 25 characters... all numbers! Same thing with my phone. | 2010-10-29 01:09:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
| My brother and girlfriend pretty much know all my passwords, bar banking ones. I'm cool with it tbh. | 2010-10-29 03:11:00 Author: ryryryan  Posts: 3767 |
| No one knows my passwords, but then again no one would remember them unless it was written down for them. My longest online password is 20 characters long and my shortest is 10. I'm secure... and my computer admin pass is set to the max of 31 characters. I have important stuffs on there people don't need to see.But I do have guest account active. They can pretty much only surf the web. | 2010-10-29 03:57:00 Author: TheAffected  Posts: 626 |
| Create an account for other people to use your computer, or don't give your password unless you trust that they won't mess. I suppose you don't have anything to hide in your PC, but it's just for the sake of the security and operability of the system. Anyway it's just a matter of trust. | 2010-10-29 10:12:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112 |
| My admin profile is a strong password, along with my other site passwords. The longest one I had nearly broke the character limit with over 25 characters... all numbers! Same thing with my phone. Why would you use all numbers??? In fairness, there's only ever been 1 or 2 occasions in the past where there has been any reason for anyone to know my passwords (i.e. I had to get them to log into something to check some details when I couldn't access the internet but could get them on the phone). Other than that, I don't actually understand why I would tell anyone my passwords. Why would you? What exactly is the benefit of giving someone your security data just 'cause? | 2010-10-29 10:21:00 Author: rtm223  Posts: 6497 |
| In my honest opinion. If you're going to share your password, why would you have a password in the first place? I don't have a password on my computer, it's stationary and I dont use it outside my home, which means only my family will use it. ^^ And it's not like my friends would get into my house if I wasn't there, haha | 2010-10-29 10:42:00 Author: jakpe Posts: 84 |
| Why would you use all numbers??? I agree... 25 numbers in a row is not nearly as strong as a combo of mixed case letters, numbers, and special characters of the same length. | 2010-10-29 10:46:00 Author: jwwphotos Posts: 11383 |
| In my honest opinion. If you're going to share your password, why would you have a password in the first place? I don't have a password on my computer, it's stationary and I dont use it outside my home, which means only my family will use it. ^^ And it's not like my friends would get into my house if I wasn't there, haha Well you might need somone to do something on your computer, but if you never had a password any random person could use it. | 2010-10-29 11:11:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Why would you use all numbers??? I agree... 25 numbers in a row is not nearly as strong as a combo of mixed case letters, numbers, and special characters of the same length. I have an old phone. You know, when you only used the numbers for passwords back then. I could upgrade into a new one, but I think it doesn't matter what phone you get. Getting the the most "advanced" phone out there really isn't necessary (some aren't even advanced, instead they just have some useless thing like a projector screen and they sell for hundreds of dollars... technology these days  ). | 2010-10-29 11:39:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
| Well you might need somone to do something on your computer, but if you never had a password any random person could use it. Well, if "any random person" has physical access to your PC, then a password ain't much use anyway. Unless you're using an encrypted filesystem, it's a simple case of booting another OS from a CD or USB stick, and you have complete low-level access to the hard drive. If you're serious about security, then make sure your computer is... locked behind a door to which only you have the key. not connected to any network, or otherwise accessible remotely. ...and if you're very serious about security, then do what some organizations in the US do, and have an armed guard protecting it. However, in most cases, even a fairly short password (of random letters from A-Z) will suffice, as long as you avoid common words. Operating systems typically apply at least a one-second delay between authentication attempts, so in order to brute-force it, it would take in the region of 26n seconds to crack, where 'n' is the number of chars in the password, so... 1 char = 26 seconds 2 chars = 11 minutes 3 chars = 5 hours 4 chars = 5 days 5 chars = 5 months 6 chars = 10 years 7 chars = 255 years 8 chars = 7 thousand years 9 chars = 172 thousand years 10 chars = 4 million years So, I think perhaps those who have passwords of 25 characters are perhaps overly paranoid. | 2010-10-29 12:16:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| Personally, I'd never share my passwords with anyone (especially in game-sharing). There's just too much insecurity in the process... since last time I shared my password with a friend, he hi-jacked my profile and went rampant as CORNHOLIO for a night, making many people on my friends list think I'm either crazy or mentally-deranged. O_o Now, I use only one 10-char password for everything, and I've been fine ever since. | 2010-10-29 14:40:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack  Posts: 5757 |
| Well, if "any random person" has physical access to your PC, then a password ain't much use anyway. Unless you're using an encrypted filesystem, it's a simple case of booting another OS from a CD or USB stick, and you have complete low-level access to the hard drive. If you're serious about security, then make sure your computer is... locked behind a door to which only you have the key. not connected to any network, or otherwise accessible remotely. ...and if you're very serious about security, then do what some organizations in the US do, and have an armed guard protecting it. However, in most cases, even a fairly short password (of random letters from A-Z) will suffice, as long as you avoid common words. Operating systems typically apply at least a one-second delay between authentication attempts, so in order to brute-force it, it would take in the region of 26n seconds to crack, where 'n' is the number of chars in the password, so... 1 char = 26 seconds 2 chars = 11 minutes 3 chars = 5 hours 4 chars = 5 days 5 chars = 5 months 6 chars = 10 years 7 chars = 255 years 8 chars = 7 thousand years 9 chars = 172 thousand years 10 chars = 4 million years So, I think perhaps those who have passwords of 25 characters are perhaps overly paranoid. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/361693/teenager-jailed-for-refusing-to-reveal-encryption-keys | 2010-10-29 14:46:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| I know it is mainly a Linux thing, but I live by these words : "To err is human. To cause real damage, you have to have root access." The same thing works for Administrator access in Windows. I agree with ccubage up there on page 1, set up a guest account which limits the harm they can do. It even lets you decide what they can do on the internet. It is the best way to go, since it doesn't have to have a password. | 2010-10-29 15:06:00 Author: Super_Dork_42  Posts: 1874 |
| I have a failry easy password, though I am probably going to mix up a more brain-paining one for the future after this. I look at my passwords as highly important and needs to be indulged in darkness and secrecy. Therefore none knows my passwords hopefully. Except for maybe some school stuff which is not important anyway. | 2010-10-29 15:31:00 Author: moonwire  Posts: 1627 |
| My girlfriend and I know each other's root passwords, but I'd be disinclined to tell anyone else it. But that might be because nobody else has a legitimate reason for using my computer. Ignoring the potential access to sensitive information, I think it's a good policy not to share administrative passwords just to avoid the technologically challenged from creating a mess of your machine. | 2010-10-29 15:40:00 Author: dxdydz Posts: 52 |
| Unless you're using an encrypted filesystem, it's a simple case of booting another OS from a CD or USB stick, and you have complete low-level access to the hard drive. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/361693/teenager-jailed-for-refusing-to-reveal-encryption-keys Your point? Still, there are ways to get around the police demanding your decryption keys anyway - just use deniable encryption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniable_encryption). The dual-plaintext approach generally foils rubber-hose cryptanalysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis), even in its most literal sense. | 2010-10-29 18:24:00 Author: Aya042 Posts: 2870 |
| I found this on LifeHacker the other day, and I found it quite interesting! It's called "How to break into a windows PC and prevent it happening to you. Should be useful to any of you security enthusiasts! http://lifehacker.com/5674972/how-to-break-into-a-windows-pc-and-prevent-it-from-happening-to-you Here's a snippit: Brute Force: Crack the Password with Ophcrack Where the other two methods are vulnerable to encryption, this method will give you full access to everything the user can access, including encrypted files, since this method relies on finding out the user's password instead of bypassing it. We've actually gone through this method before, but it doesn't hurt to have a refresher. All you need to do is download and burn the Ophcrack Live CD (use the Vista version if you're cracking a Windows 7 PC) and boot from it on your computer. It'll take a little bit of time to boot, but eventually it will bring you to a desktop environment and start attempting to crack passwords. This may take a while. You'll see the passwords pop up in the top pane of the window, though, when it finds them (or, if it doesn't find them, it'll notify you). You can then reboot and log in to Windows using those passwords. How to Beat it While this method works on encrypted OSes, it can't crack every password out there. To increase your chance of having an uncrackable password, use something complicated and greater than 14 characters. The stronger your password, the less likely Ophcrack will be able to figure it out. | 2010-10-29 18:50:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105 |
| Your point? Still, there are ways to get around the police demanding your decryption keys anyway - just use deniable encryption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniable_encryption). The dual-plaintext approach generally foils rubber-hose cryptanalysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber-hose_cryptanalysis), even in its most literal sense. Me and my friend were thinking the same as you when we read that story, there is no need to have a pass that is too long. | 2010-10-29 18:50:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| No way! For me, the password I use is the ONLY password I use. If anyone found it out I would be pretty screwed.  | 2010-10-30 00:58:00 Author: Mr_T-Shirt  Posts: 1477 |
| I've only got one or two passwords for anything. My girlfriend accidently saw me enter it (Silly me really, when I was entering my password I forgot to click on the Password section, and instead entered it into the username section). Anyway, I'm fine with her having it - although I do like my own privacy, so would kind of like to change it, but then she might have an issue with it - e.g. "What's wrong with me knowing your password?". My family don't know it (I think), but it helps me that if they know my passwords, then I know thier passwords (that way it feels more like a 2 way street). Personally, if he's a tweaker, it's best not to share your password. Like, my laptop is mine, I have it the way I like it - and don't really want anyone fiddling with it. Right? Anyway, to be honest, I'm sure MrSC isn't THAT worried that his brother in law is going to harm his computer that he feels the need to use heavy encryption and such. | 2010-10-30 01:06:00 Author: standby250  Posts: 1113 |
| Only i know my password, as i only have 1 which i use for everything. If i had many passwords for different things, i wouldn't mind family having some, i don't care if my sister uses my mac, but i don't want here logging into sites as me etc. | 2010-10-30 02:12:00 Author: Unknown User |
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