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Frustbeta'd!! LBP2Beta Free DLC Now Missing... I got POOCHED!

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Okay, so I guess Mm handed us certain DLC for free with the beta. I'm not a fan of getting stuff free that others paid their hard earned cash for, but since we're not allowed to keep any creations and stuff from the beta I figured what the heck... I'll use it if they want me to (maybe there's a reason specific DLC is given as it's glitchy or something?) So about 4 or 5 days ago I decided to pull out an old unfinished level and tweak and upgrade it to LBP2 standards and turn out a level in a short time for a change. I really wanted to get something up before the beta ended so that folks could play it and tell me what they think.

Long story short, I used some of the "free DLC" we were given to make a character in the level yesterday (the shark costume from the More Animals Pack). When I tried laoding the level today, I got the "You can not edit this as it contains DLC from the More Animals Pack. You must purchase this content first. Swtiching you to play mode.... SUCKER!" message.

I can't access the store from the beta to re-download it... and I'm certianly not paying for it because the costumes are horrible mostly, and I just can't afford it right now. I am sooooooooo ticked off right now! The level is only a few hours from completion and now I can't finish it.

Anyone else notice any "free" DLC missing from their beta? I mean... why bother giving us access to stuff you want us to use if it's just going to go missing and totally screw up our beta testing? I don't know if it's a glitch or not... but I reported it.

I'm so frutstrated now that I don't even feel like creating anything else in the beta any more. Argh.. I guess I'm going to stick to learning the tools more and playing other peoples' levels. Creating anything worth publishing is no longer an interest for me anymore... I could care less until I get the full game now.

I am now officially Frustbeta'd!
2010-10-24 20:58:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


You realise they didn't mean to give you 'free' DLC. It's not exactly their fault if they then go and take it away from you.

Edit: Ok, I guess technically it is their fault, but what I'm saying is you shouldn't take advantage of a mistake they made because they're bound to want to correct it again.
2010-10-24 21:05:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


You could Lock-publish it copyable, send the key to someone you trust that has the DLC, let him remove the Sackbot with the DLC, and return the level for ye to complete!


Hope that helps!
2010-10-24 21:05:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


You could Lock-publish it copyable, send the key to someone you trust that has the DLC, let him remove the Sackbot with the DLC, and return the level for ye to complete!


Hope that helps!

I'm fairly sure someone said you can still copy a locked copyable level. With or without the key.
2010-10-24 21:08:00

Author:
Doopz
Posts: 5592


I'm fairly sure someone said you can still copy a locked copyable level. With or without the key.

In general (LBP1 & 2, or in BETA?
As far as I know, if its lock, you can't even select it.
(Yet again, I haven't seen locked levels in BETA yet.)
2010-10-24 21:13:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


In general (LBP1 & 2, or in BETA?
As far as I know, if its lock, you can't even select it.
(Yet again, I haven't seen locked levels in BETA yet.)

You can selected locked levels in LBP2 BETA, but not in LBP1.
2010-10-24 21:19:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


If you want/able you can email me a backup of the level and I'll email you back a version with the offending sackbot removed.2010-10-24 21:21:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


theres nothing sadder than a sackbot shark. poor guy cant even swim.2010-10-24 21:26:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730


You realise they didn't mean to give you 'free' DLC. It's not exactly their fault if they then go and take it away from you.

Edit: Ok, I guess technically it is their fault, but what I'm saying is you shouldn't take advantage of a mistake they made because they're bound to want to correct it again.

Actually, no... I didn't realize it wasn't intended. I honeslty thought they were giving certain DLC in the beta specifically for us to use.... especially because this 2nd phaze was specifically given to people with DLC and I thought maybe they wanted to test certain stuff that may have had issues (but not these kinds of issues). I don't even know how they could remove it during the beta anyways... unless there was an update. I'm sure they are aware that free DLC has been given out since the initial beta in EU... so if this is the case then I would have thought they would have given us a warning that it may be removed and to avoid using it. To be honest... it doesn't make sense that it was given by accident because only certain DLC was given... not everything. That's why I assumed it was possibly something they threw in that we might go "Hey! New DLC... I guess I could use this during the beta."


If you want/able you can email me a backup of the level and I'll email you back a version with the offending sackbot removed.

That would be fantastic! I really would like to get this level done for the beta... even knowing it won't transfer over to the final game on it's release. I really appreciate the offer! I'll try to figure out how to set this up... do I just send you a key or something?

As for the offensive little shark-thing. You'll find him behind the bar in a fish tank shaped like a medical cross. He's in there jumping around and has goofy legs attached to him. I'm only doing this because I trust you and you are an fine upstanding citizen of LBPC.

The only thing I would ask is that you don't copy any costumes in the level as some of them are very closely guarded and I take pride in them. I'm sure you are far ahead of me in logic (as I really suck at it) so I'm not worried about you taking my Jawa machine at the end (though I'm sure you'd have no reason to do so anyways). Ugh.. nevermind... I'm just babbling paranoid now. I'll add you to PSN now and see if I can send it over somehow.

Thanks again!
2010-10-24 21:56:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


I'll try to figure out how to set this up... do I just send you a key or something?

He's suggesting that you use the level backup feature to export the level into a save file. Email him that file, he'll import it, fix it, export it, and email it back
2010-10-24 23:05:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


He's suggesting that you use the level backup feature to export the level into a save file. Email him that file, he'll import it, fix it, export it, and email it back

Oh... I see! Okay, thanks man. Not sure that's going to work for me as I don't have access to a computer right now. *sigh*

Question: Would this possibly work if the Online Create *workaround* was implemented with someone who ownded the DLC? I could go into create mode with them and they could remove the DLC then I could save? Might be easier to do this way if it would work
2010-10-24 23:32:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Question: Would this possibly work if the Online Create *workaround* was implemented with someone who ownded the DLC? I could go into create mode with them and they could remove the DLC then I could save? Might be easier to do this way if it would work

But how would you acess the level if you don't have the DLC anyway? Don't you have to be the host in order to acess the level in your moon?
2010-10-24 23:40:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


But how would you acess the level if you don't have the DLC anyway? Don't you have to be the host in order to acess the level in your moon?

I was thinking if I sent them a key. Nevermind, I'm really tired right now and my brain hurts from trying to figure out the new logic tools. I can't stand the tutorials in all their vagueness. I can't even get basic stuff working right now. To be honest, I'm pretty frustrated all around in this beta. Normal betas are playing the game and looking. Having to learn new tools while trying to create as well as work with a buggy game is just getting me more and more ticked off. Think I'll just forget about it for a few days and do something else maybe.
2010-10-24 23:52:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


He's suggesting that you use the level backup feature to export the level into a save file. Email him that file, he'll import it, fix it, export it, and email it back

What he said. I had to be out for a few hours but check your PM box for email details

I won't stick my nose in anything except for the sackbot. And think of it this way, we're testing level backups in the process.
2010-10-25 00:52:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Uh, well it appears I'm victim to the bug too... except it's not the purported "free DLC" you mentioned, but all DLC, including stuff that I have purchased.

Anyone else having this problem?

Edit: re-uploading my profile in hopes it may just "show up."

Edit 2: the DLC is there, I just can't access it.
2010-10-25 02:02:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Uh, well it appears I'm victim to the bug too... except it's not the purported "free DLC" you mentioned, but all DLC, including stuff that I have purchased.

Anyone else having this problem?

Edit: re-uploading my profile in hopes it may just "show up."

Edit 2: the DLC is there, I just can't access it.


Oh no! I hope this isn't a new bug that's going to rip through the beta community! Forgive my ignorance in these matters, but won't re-uploading your profile erase anything you've done in the beta up until this point?

EDIT: Just to be clear then, you are also unable to edit your levels now as well?
2010-10-25 02:11:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Oh no! I hope this isn't a new bug that's going to rip through the beta community! Forgive my ignorance in these matters, but won't re-uploading your profile erase anything you've done in the beta up until this point?

EDIT: Just to be clear then, you are also unable to edit your levels now as well?

All of my progress in LBP2 was saved, but my DLC is showing up in the menu (costumes only, haven't checked materials, etc.) but is not accessible. My moon was cleared... I didn't have anything worthwhile there anyways. Yet.

Edit: OK, so it's not all DLC. I have confirmed the following DLC (which I have purchased and/or received with GOTY) will not work, including stickers and costumes:

MGS Kit
History Kit
Monsters Kit

... which leads me to believe this is just affecting any and all GOTY content you may have purchased and/or received with the GOTY edition.
2010-10-25 02:17:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


All of my progress in LBP2 was saved, but my DLC is showing up in the menu (costumes only, haven't checked materials, etc.) but is not accessible. My moon was cleared... I didn't have anything worthwhile there anyways. Yet.

Edit: OK, so it's not all DLC. I have confirmed the following DLC (which I have purchased and/or received with GOTY) will not work, including stickers and costumes:

MGS Kit
History Kit
Monsters Kit

... which leads me to believe this is just affecting any and all GOTY content you may have purchased and/or received with the GOTY edition.

Hmmm.... I don't have the GOTY edition... so maybe I'm being affected by something different, or the same bug but in a different way? I don't know if the More Animals pack was included in the GOTY, so I don't want to assume anything yet. But if it was, this could be connected as I received this DLC free with the beta trial. I'd be curious to see who else this is affecting and if anyone else received free DLC with this round in the beta, and which DLC they received. The mystery deepens.
2010-10-25 02:43:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Hmmm.... I don't have the GOTY edition... so maybe I'm being affected by something different, or the same bug but in a different way? I don't know if the More Animals pack was included in the GOTY, so I don't want to assume anything yet. But if it was, this could be connected as I received this DLC free with the beta trial. I'd be curious to see who else this is affecting and if anyone else received free DLC with this round in the beta, and which DLC they received. The mystery deepens.

Some of the Animals packs were included in GOTY, so yes... this is the same bug. Except I have purchased it, but it seems to be disabled regardless. Did you get MGS stuff with the beta too? If so, have you checked to see if you have access to it?

Edit: Affects the Monsters pack and the Animals pack on my end, by the way, both of which are GOTY DLC.
2010-10-25 02:53:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Nope... none of my other DLC is affected. I have the MGS, History, and Monsters packs and none of them are being affected. I did purchase them through the store on their initial release, so I'm guessing that's somehow a weird added factor to this enigma.

Have you reported it as a bug to the beta crew yet?
2010-10-25 05:06:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Nope... none of my other DLC is affected. I have the MGS, History, and Monsters packs and none of them are being affected. I did purchase them through the store on their initial release, so I'm guessing that's somehow a weird added factor to this enigma.

Have you reported it as a bug to the beta crew yet?

No, talking to Fishrock and Sehven right now about it, they think it might be related to the profile and recommended we send a copy of ours to MM. Not sure how we'd do that, and in addition I don't have access to the Sony forums yet, so I can't tell you how widespread this may be.
2010-10-25 05:20:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


:O
Saying how you won't use the free DLC, then going on and using them...
I remember on online create, I wanted to show my friend something my sack bot could do. I used the motorstorm costume DLC (which I did not own beforehand) on it. And i a message saying "the host does not own motorstorm dlc", but the thing was, he did own it, okay i'm not exactly sure if it did have it, he didn't show me if he had the costume but he told me he did.
2010-10-25 05:50:00

Author:
PPp_Killer
Posts: 449


Very strange... all my GOTY DLC is working fine after the patch, costumes / sounds / etc.2010-10-25 05:54:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Very strange... all my GOTY DLC is working fine after the patch, costumes / sounds / etc.

Yup. It doesn't seem to be affecting everyone, else people's levels would be breaking all over the place if they contained a single piece of the DLC. Rust is the only other person I know that is experiencing it, too...
2010-10-25 07:29:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Just checked the Sony forums (gawd that forum is slow-which is why I haven't been keeping track of anything over there) and there's definitely issues going on with people getting the free DLC. I only saw one person say that they've now lost access to it, but no one else has mentioned it that I've found... or experienced their levels being un-editable as a reult. Mostly it's just talk of how lucky everyone is that they got free stuff. Quite a few people were under the same impression as I was .... that it was given on purpose to test backward compatibility and possible issues (someone even brought up the previous beta where costumes weren't rendering properly - so there's a good chance people might have it in some levels that are about to break if this is the thinking and they've implemented it).

Tried the "workaround" glitch for online create with a kind member here on the forums, but I have a ton of other DLC in there that he doesn't own so that won't work either. At this point, there's no way I can get rid of the costume and access my level unless someone has all the DLC in there that I've used. It's not likely either... it's a costume heavy level and there's stuff from quite a few packs.

I'd like to know how to send off our profiles if this will fix the problem though. Please keep me informed if you find anything out on this angle schm0, and I'll do the same and keep digging to see what other info I can find as well.
2010-10-25 08:30:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


i'm not able to access my history kit items... at least not the costumes (cant confirm materials or stickers)
i purchased it as dlc when it came out and i have the GOTY.
2010-10-25 15:00:00

Author:
Deftmute
Posts: 730


I have a feeling it's the costumes specifically that are the problem.2010-10-26 02:40:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


I have a feeling it's the costumes specifically that are the problem.

Yeah i think that too!
I recently got some costume packs but when i download it and install it
It works only in the BETA i go to LBP 1 and nothing!
That really sucks!
2010-10-26 02:50:00

Author:
shadow3596
Posts: 2442


Yeah i think that too!
I recently got some costume packs but when i download it and install it
It works only in the BETA i go to LBP 1 and nothing!
That really sucks!

Woah! Now THAT is weird! Did you try installing it from "in game" in LBP? I see no reason why this problem would be affecting the first game... it's really an issue with the beta, or so I thought? Could you try downloading it from the store while in LBP for us and let us know if it worked that way? (if you haven't already tried that). I'm sure we'd all like to know if that makes a difference.
2010-10-26 04:52:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Look at the bright side guys, you may have just earned your bug buster outfit.2010-10-26 14:54:00

Author:
Biv
Posts: 734


Look at the bright side guys, you may have just earned your bug buster outfit.

To be honest... it would be totally worth it (only because I'm a costume freak), though I highly doubt this will be enough to warrant them giving us one. Still, it would be nice compensation.
2010-10-26 15:33:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


I have a feeling it's the costumes specifically that are the problem.

I've verified it affects stickers and materials, as well. Have yet to test out the sounds, etc.
2010-10-26 18:37:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


I've verified it affects stickers and materials, as well. Have yet to test out the sounds, etc.

Okay thanks! I can't check any extra stuff because it's only affecting the Animals pack for me and that's just costumes.
2010-10-26 18:47:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Rustbukkit, have you tried exporting and emailing the level to Foofles yet? (it was foofles who offered to help, right?) If he doesn't have all the dlc, you can sent it to me and I'll try it: I have everything except the John Burgerman sticker pack.

Schm0, I vaguely remember that conversation, but I didn't remember you saying you had the Goty edition and that it was only that particular dlc that was affected. That has been an issue for other people on the official forum. I can't remember if anybody found a solution: I'll do a search and see if I can find anything.

[edit] Did a quick search. Seems it was a bug in 1.0 but it's supposed to be fixed in 1.01. Have you upgraded and are you still having problems?
2010-10-27 07:21:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


Rustbukkit, have you tried exporting and emailing the level to Foofles yet? (it was foofles who offered to help, right?) If he doesn't have all the dlc, you can sent it to me and I'll try it: I have everything except the John Burgerman sticker pack.


Well, I don't have access to a working computer very handy... so Foofles and I tried to go into my level with the OC workaround. We got in, but he didn't have a lot of the DLC I have so he was unable to edit it out. If you have everything but that one sticker pack, I'm thinking we could make the same attempt. If the two of us go in, you should be able to remove the little bugger from the level and then I can save it that way. In theory... this should work. Though it means we'd have to become friends on PSN... and I'm not sure your willing to ramp our interweebz relationship up to the next level yet. lolz..... *insert cricket chirping here*

Would love to give this a shot though... I'd really like to get this level done before the beta ends and maybe get a video done of it too. Plus, I wouldn't mind showing you one or two contraptions and getting your thoughts and opinions if you were open to it (mech type things that you clearly know more about than I do). You can either let me know here or in a PM... or you could just add me on your PSN list. My username is the same there as it is here.

Cheers!
2010-10-27 09:40:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Rustbukkit, have you tried exporting and emailing the level to Foofles yet? (it was foofles who offered to help, right?) If he doesn't have all the dlc, you can sent it to me and I'll try it: I have everything except the John Burgerman sticker pack.

Schm0, I vaguely remember that conversation, but I didn't remember you saying you had the Goty edition and that it was only that particular dlc that was affected. That has been an issue for other people on the official forum. I can't remember if anybody found a solution: I'll do a search and see if I can find anything.

[edit] Did a quick search. Seems it was a bug in 1.0 but it's supposed to be fixed in 1.01. Have you upgraded and are you still having problems?

I'll have to double check the version when I get home, but I downloaded it last Thursday and it was much larger than everyone else's. I believe it was 1.0 + 1.01 bundled together.
2010-10-27 19:15:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Though it means we'd have to become friends on PSN... and I'm not sure your willing to ramp our interweebz relationship up to the next level yet. lolz..... *insert cricket chirping here*

Well if you keep talking like that we're gonna' have problems. And don't expect me to tell you where somewhere, Usa is any time soon. But yeah, I'll help you out. Send me a friend request and the next time we're both on we can try to fix it.


I'll have to double check the version when I get home, but I downloaded it last Thursday and it was much larger than everyone else's. I believe it was 1.0 + 1.01 bundled together.

Well I imagine that if you can access the lbp2 servers you must have 1.01, but you're already a wierd example: you downloaded a US beta but it was 1.01 before the rest of us got it. I guess double check your version number or whatever. If it's indeed 1.01 and you still can't access the Goty content, I'll write up a bug report for you (since you can't access the forum there).

I wonder if you could be added to the beta forum. I mean what's the point of giving the beta to people who can't report bugs. I mean, yeah, it's nice that you can play it and that's enough I guess, but wouldn't you think Mm would want you to be able to give feedback?
2010-10-27 20:32:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


THE BETA ENDS!!!?!?!?!
when, why, how?
2010-10-27 20:36:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Well the original announcement said 3 weeks, but it's been pointed out that it was copy/pasted from the original EU announcement and, I'm not sure but I think it might've been before the push back to January was announced, so who knows. It might go on longer or it might end next week.2010-10-27 23:30:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


Well if you keep talking like that we're gonna' have problems. And don't expect me to tell you where somewhere, Usa is any time soon. But yeah, I'll help you out. Send me a friend request and the next time we're both on we can try to fix it.

Haha! Yeah well, you'd just better hope it ain't near the border, 'cause I'm not a far drive from there. Of course, I don't have wheels so I guess you're safe. I'll add you later this evening and we can figure it out soon'ish then. Thanks!


THE BETA ENDS!!!?!?!?!
when, why, how?


Well the original announcement said 3 weeks, but it's been pointed out that it was copy/pasted from the original EU announcement and, I'm not sure but I think it might've been before the push back to January was announced, so who knows. It might go on longer or it might end next week.

@ flamingemu, exactly what Sehven pointed out. Most of us are hoping it's longer, but it's best to assume our time is almost up so we can avoid the disappointment of thinking it would be longer. The lucky EU folks have had plenty of time with it and we are hoping for the same. Fingers crossed!
2010-10-28 00:11:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Haha! Yeah well, you'd just better hope it ain't near the border, 'cause I'm not a far drive from there. Of course, I don't have wheels so I guess you're safe. I'll add you later this evening and we can figure it out soon'ish then. Thanks!





@ flamingemu, exactly what Sehven pointed out. Most of us are hoping it's longer, but it's best to assume our time is almost up so we can avoid the disappointment of thinking it would be longer. The lucky EU folks have had plenty of time with it and we are hoping for the same. Fingers crossed! I agree with you but look on the bright side at least we got to play it
2010-10-28 00:42:00

Author:
WESFUN
Posts: 1336


I wonder if you could be added to the beta forum. I mean what's the point of giving the beta to people who can't report bugs. I mean, yeah, it's nice that you can play it and that's enough I guess, but wouldn't you think Mm would want you to be able to give feedback?

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how best to deal with this. I was considering emailing Spaff, but the poor guy probably never heard of me.

Besides, I'm sure he's fairly busy right about now.
2010-10-28 01:18:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how best to deal with this. I was considering emailing Spaff, but the poor guy probably never heard of me.

Besides, I'm sure he's fairly busy right about now.

AFAIK I don't have access either.. If I don't have access tomorrow I'ma bug LiquidRunner...
2010-10-28 01:26:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578


Well I imagine that if you can access the lbp2 servers you must have 1.01, but you're already a wierd example: you downloaded a US beta but it was 1.01 before the rest of us got it. I guess double check your version number or whatever. If it's indeed 1.01 and you still can't access the Goty content, I'll write up a bug report for you (since you can't access the forum there).

I have version 1.01. I'm going to check again to see if it's still affecting me, but if it is I'm going to try to see how I can get access. Does Liquidrunner have an email?
2010-10-28 05:45:00

Author:
schm0
Posts: 1239


Well the original announcement said 3 weeks, but it's been pointed out that it was copy/pasted from the original EU announcement and, I'm not sure but I think it might've been before the push back to January was announced, so who knows. It might go on longer or it might end next week.

so when it ends, what happens exactly? does the online community just shut down... or what?
2010-10-28 13:29:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


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