Archive: 28 posts

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I know this has been said several times before, but this time I'm making it into a petition. A petition to make the layer glitch an official tool accessible to all! Here are some examples of the glitch being used to it's fullest potential! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06CJYJBJyFw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syxDulEj0pE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzXrDQF-Se0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_voxGmuhM0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJUoqAMiSmo Just vote in the poll and hope we hit a high enough number to grab Mm's attention!

2010-10-10 10:38:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105

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I think it's fair to say that MM is well aware that many would like this glitch to become a feature, so there is no point in making a petition. It won't change anything.

2010-10-10 10:41:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Yes, of course I want it. Hopefully they can easily make it an official tool. If not, would it be too weird for them to post how to find the glitch on their website's FAQ?

2010-10-10 11:26:00 Author: Snappyguy Posts: 710

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Yes yes a million times yes. The layer glitch ability has endless potential. If Mm can make it possible to move materials and maybe even objects out of the playable layer without having to glitch them in, it would make 3D levels EVEN better because it'd be simpler to make stuff if it was official. I'm all for it if they can do it.

2010-10-10 13:52:00 Author: Matimoo Posts: 1027

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I also would like it, but having found compher's great tool for easy-ish 50-lr glitch usage, I think I'm not throwing anything at my cat if the glitch wasn't officialised. I think it would also massively change the feeling of the game. Instead of being an optional enhancement, the 3D glitch would feel like something mandatory to make awesome in the future... The fuzzy, warm feel in my mind of the game with 3 layers would be gone forever... Though I could say this of any of the new improvements. I't just how I feel about this.

2010-10-10 14:20:00 Author: Unknown User

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I think it's fair to say that MM is well aware that many would like this glitch to become a feature, so there is no point in making a petition. It won't change anything. I know, but at the same time, they'll always have a little nagging feeling from a constant source. Ever seen Shawshank Redemption? That persistent letter trick really does work sometimes

2010-10-10 14:58:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105

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as i've said before, stop thining like Mm they can think for themselfs, we want the background tool? Yes, we care about glitches? No, that'll either, as many times before, just help us create even better or get patched so it wouldn't matter! really, we don't have to be understandable with Mm, even if we love em so shouldn't we (just some people but i'll say 'we' now) give up our own opinion and vote 'nah that would be glitchie and hard to program' we don't program this so how could we know if it's hard? i mean we use it already so basically it's allready half done! if it would be a dlc Mm and sony would make money of it, so i don't understand why not? why won't they make it? i mean lbp2 is created with the community's ideas and amazing skills in mind (what i've heard)

2010-10-10 16:00:00 Author: >er. Posts: 785

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At this point, i think Mm is only at the private forum. And petitions isn't allowed over there. And, they have said dozen of times, that they want to transfer the glitch over. The glitch got transfered 100%, at least to the BETA. So i think they will make a tool. They're trying hard, and there is no point in a petition, because Mm knows we want it!

2010-10-10 16:14:00 Author: Jonaolst Posts: 935

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I don't think they said that they would make the glitch an official tool, but I remember some time ago, they said that they weren't going to get rid of it either....or look into it something like that Actually in the Qore episode when they were talking about the glitch. They seemed really excited about it, didn't seem like they were going to get rid of it to me. Maybe that's what I was talking about when I said they said something? What am I saying???? Whatever, I'm too lazy to re-write the whole thing. Bye!

2010-10-10 16:34:00 Author: Amigps Posts: 564

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It will most likely be working in the same way as in LBP1, not as a feature. There is a good reason for this. The glitch layers don't work properly, they all take the last thin layer or a seperate "hover-mode" thick layer. Making these layers work properly would be too much for the PS3, or at least it would cause some extreme lag if there is even a little detail in the background. If it would be possible to make the glitch layers work, then I think it would already be a feature. Then why isn't the buggy version a feature? Because it's broken, things colliding when not touching doesn't make sense. Making everything behave like dark matter in the background could be a solution but that would break some of the levels that use the glitch layers because some people have managed to get stuff to move in there. Having the layers as a glitch is actually a very good solution, everyone who wants can use them but no one should be blamed for not using them. If they would be a feature then it would be expected that people use them and I'm sure some creators wouldn't be too happy about that, at least I wouldn't. I like the way people use them and some really incredible stuff can be built with them but I can't use them, it's too complicated for me to even bother trying. I prefer to make normal 3-layer levels

2010-10-10 17:53:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653

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What don't you understand about them saying: "They don't have the resources"? They've already said they wanted to, but don't have the resources. Uh... yeah. problem.. solved? :S (This was the answer syroc got on LBL when some questions were answered wayy back when.)

2010-10-10 18:27:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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It's simple, if they take it out it will ruin a lot of levels...if they make it official it will ruin a lot of levels. They're not removing it because they can't. But they've given us a stable material that doesn't have rounded edges and holographic materials that don't react with each other. So they aren't telling us to use it, but they are giving us better tools.

2010-10-10 23:44:00 Author: ballisticola Posts: 157

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They can't. They said it would break the game. Search before you post >:c

2010-10-11 00:59:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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yer i made a thread talking about how they can keep the glitched one so it dont break levels and then there official one as dlc

2010-10-11 02:23:00 Author: artise Posts: 353

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I'm going to try to phrase this so that no one feels the need to post in this pointless thread. I will probably fail, however. Mm knows about the glitch. They are specifically trying to avoid fixing it, so that we can still use it. Why don't they make it official if they know it and love it, you ask? Because something -- I don't know what -- in the engine limits their ability to add it. Whether it is an overload on the engine, or the way the game is constructed, something is preventing them from adding it.

2010-10-12 05:14:00 Author: Unknown User

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Quite true, If Mm didn't wanted this glitch they would have already taken it away, but as it seems its still here its because Mm seems to sympathize with it, the only thing we can expect from Mm is to wait for them to either find a way to fix it, or to just do nothing, which in that case would meant that they could not find a way to add it.

2010-10-12 07:44:00 Author: Ragnarok Posts: 898

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Keep in mind, just because they're aware of a glitch doesn't mean they can "magically implement it onto the game," dude. They're well awware of this glitch, and I'm sure they're working on something for it, but that doesn't mean its for sure they can add it. Sure you say "Ohh giimie teh 3Dz naw, I wanna i wanna!" but remember that its not as easy as it sounds, specially since it IS a "glitch" after all. Besides, you're not really helping by saying "Gimmie 3D Tool" and that's it, iwith no specification whatsoever on how or what it should be like... :/ "The tool get you to build in the BG!" you say? Ok then what/ how? There are also various things to keep in mind if they wanna make this "glitch" an official "way to do things" in the game, such as "can you extend materials more than the original layers, or how far back can you move objects? Also remember that the 3D layers are still very unstable and quite "gllitchy" themselves, inculding the fact that they can't overlap behind anything on the back thin layer or themselves... So as you can see m8, its not as easy as it seems, and just saying "GIMMAH TEH 3Dz NAW' repeditaley isn't really helpful, nor is it really that easy to make it "official. In shor m8, relax. Like I say, "If they can they will, if not then not." Besides, what's the big deal? We can already use them as a glitch anyways, wether they make it official or not shouldn't "really" matter THAT much, no?

2010-10-12 08:54:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Keep in mind, just because they're aware of a glitch doesn't mean they can "magically implement it onto the game," dude. They're well awware of this glitch, and I'm sure they're working on something for it, but that doesn't mean its for sure they can add it. Sure you say "Ohh giimie teh 3Dz naw, I wanna i wanna!" but remember that its not as easy as it sounds, specially since it IS a "glitch" after all. Besides, you're not really helping by saying "Gimmie 3D Tool" and that's it, iwith no specification whatsoever on how or what it should be like... :/ "The tool get you to build in the BG!" you say? Ok then what/ how? There are also various things to keep in mind if they wanna make this "glitch" an official "way to do things" in the game, such as "can you extend materials more than the original layers, or how far back can you move objects? Also remember that the 3D layers are still very unstable and quite "gllitchy" themselves, inculding the fact that they can't overlap behind anything on the back thin layer or themselves... So as you can see m8, its not as easy as it seems, and just saying "GIMMAH TEH 3Dz NAW' repeditaley isn't really helpful, nor is it really that easy to make it "official. In shor m8, relax. Like I say, "If they can they will, if not then not." Besides, what's the big deal? We can already use them as a glitch anyways, wether they make it official or not shouldn't "really" matter THAT much, no? I haven't specified because I'm happy for anything Mm comes up with and how they do it, Just as long as we can have a tool that vaguely resembles the current 3D glitch. GIMMAH TEH 3Dz NAW 1) I'm not begging, I'm polling and 2), my grammar and spelling are much better than that! XD

2010-10-18 19:22:00 Author: Weretigr Posts: 2105

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I think they should just leave it as a glitch instead of wasting time trying to implement it when they could be fixing bugs or making DLC. And it doesn't really make a difference because you can still use it can't you.

2010-10-18 20:31:00 Author: ADS_LEGEND Posts: 140

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Well they could not waste time on LBP2 just fix bugs in LBP1 and make DLC, who wanted LBP2 anyway? They always can work on new features and LBP2 is proof of that

2010-10-18 20:38:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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I'm not particually fond of it myself and wouldn't want to create a whole level with it, and people who do use it have pretty much mastered it in LBP1 now. If it works the same way, I doubt anyone will care too much.

2010-10-18 22:07:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893

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the glitch enhances the game to a higher potential. The glitch makes the game and the levels look like a lot of detail was put into it (not like there never was but you know..). It just makes the game looks better.

2010-10-18 22:08:00 Author: dronti_ti Posts: 85

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makes te game looks better? and it seems tHat my some of my lower Case keys are broken.... THIS IS A NEW COMPUTER! anyHow (.....) I do understand tHat sinCe tHis was a glitCH, it would be Hard to put it into tHe game, i mean, it was a GLITCH it wasnt supposed to Happen, so it would really be easy to turn it into sometHing tHat isnt a glitH. (tHis is annoying, its tHe H, and C keys tHat are broken in Case you didnt realize)

2010-10-19 01:15:00 Author: Merc Posts: 2135

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Well, I think they need to do something, be it implementing a tool to activate the glitch or something. This games success seems to weigh greatly on coverage on user created levels, and although there are many great normal stages that garner attention, the ones that seem to be most "awe inspiring" tend to use this glitch. In its current state its somewhat of a hassle to get things into the background, but if it were easier I could see it benefitting everyone (even if you personally dont want to use it).

2010-10-19 07:42:00 Author: Mooshywooshy Posts: 28

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There are things that I think MM can't share with users. First of all is the thermo capacity. I always thought that the PS3 could handle more than what LBP1 made possible thermo wise, but load times for heavy levels would have been huge. (Try to cheat the thermo and back up your data and look at the size compared to regular levels) Another thing is the layer glitch, ther should be a reason why they have not made it into an official tool. I would like to have it, but I think that it's a bit soon, maybe halfway through the life of the game

2010-10-19 09:17:00 Author: OmegaSlayer Posts: 5112

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How do some people not understand it? It's this simple, they won't put it in because :- 1) It will break a lot of LBP1 levels. 2) If they give everyone the option to use more layers...they will...and the game can't handle it. The game isn't built to do it. It should be left for the few to make great looking levels, not changed for the many to ruin every level.

2010-10-19 20:47:00 Author: ballisticola Posts: 157

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The actuall reason that they kept to the standard number of layers is because they felt having loads of layers would overwelm new players.

2010-10-22 20:05:00 Author: unXpectiD Posts: 1132

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It would be cool if they made it offical for the game but i agree with the other people too.

2010-10-22 20:56:00 Author: Unknown User

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