Archive: 45 posts

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?Like LittleBigPlanet, we will be supporting the game with patches, updates and whatever, but you have to realise right from the beginning that there are those people who don't have online and that is why we decided it was the right decision to delay the game,? Evans said, speaking to Anderson at EG Expo last weekend. The developer added: ?In the end, the main reason for it though was just that we played the game and in the end realised that we had to make the Blu-ray perfect, and I don't mean 100 percent perfect, but I just mean something we are proud of. ?We respect people don't have online and don't want to patch their game to get the full experience. We could have shipped it and it would have been fine, however we realised that with just a couple of extra week?s we could make the game super amazing, adding the super onto the already amazing which exists today. This is something that will live forever and the delay, people will forget about. ?I?m really sorry the delay frustrated people, even us, I mean I really wanted to get this game out for Christmas so hard. We pushed ourselves but realised with just a few more weeks we could make it perfect.? Discuss. http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/05/media-molecules-evans-lbp2-delayed-because-not-all-ps3s-are-connected/

2010-10-05 14:50:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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Perfectly good reason for me. This just means from the start we get a game that is super amazing that can still get better.

2010-10-05 14:54:00 Author: TheAffected Posts: 626

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This is the correct production mentality.

2010-10-05 14:57:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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That makes sense. I was expecting a dog ate the hardware excuse from Sony Glad to see MM caring about everyone!

2010-10-05 15:02:00 Author: Testudini Posts: 3262

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvAZ3dn-jQ But seriously, good for them. Takes us back to when games didn't need updates to be awesome.

2010-10-05 15:19:00 Author: VincentVendetta Posts: 111

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If this was Sonic 06, this game would've been released last year. I'm glad they're aware the game needs work. I'm also happy they were kind enough to give us the news. Most videogame companies wouldn't of said anything at all and release a terrible, unpolished turd. Go MM! Make us proud! :star:

2010-10-05 15:46:00 Author: Cheezy WEAPON Posts: 283

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and that is good, too many developers don't give themselves the time any more, although the ability to improve console games through patches is a good thing it has made developers lazy and release broken games. The only game I know that released to the developers content is FF13, however I think that could do with a patch to reduce screen tear but that's about it.

2010-10-05 16:40:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662

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Nice to get some clarity on the actual reason. No need for speculation anymore I guess. Good on ya' Mm... and thanks!

2010-10-05 16:48:00 Author: Rustbukkit Posts: 1737

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Son of a... Actually...I'm ok with that.

2010-10-05 16:57:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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Personally, I wish more game makers would take the same route. If a game isn't ready and you need a patch to make it "right" then it should not get released. i have several friends that do not have online with their consoles and this directly effects them. Not to mention that needing a patch on day 1, to me, is pretty unprofessional.

2010-10-05 17:41:00 Author: RSQViper Posts: 302

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Mm have the right mindset! Viva l'Mm!

2010-10-05 17:58:00 Author: Plasmavore Posts: 1913

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Ok that makes a lot of scene and for the truth im happy that media molecule delayed the game. Whats the points on creating a game that you are not happy with, make it better is what I say. Well thanks for the info that really help. Also I think MM should have done the same kind of message with the LBP2 beta because many people were like "what is active?" lol Well thanks media molecule we all will be looking forward until the game comes out, the bad thing is wend Nov 16 come we are all going to be a little strange and you know why. Plus here is another part of the info. “disappointing,” but that it’s “key” to replicate the quality MM achieved with the original LBP.

2010-10-05 18:02:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843

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It's nice to know why it was LBP2 was delayed, thanks Schm0!

2010-10-05 18:05:00 Author: X-FROGBOY-X Posts: 1800

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Glad for MM to do this!

2010-10-05 18:17:00 Author: ghik16 Posts: 311

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I thought it ment becuase people wouldn't get the online levels and Sony or someone were going to make some promotional campain to get people on (like the Candle one ) Didn't think about updates and what not :blush:

2010-10-05 19:36:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893

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As Shigeru Mayamoto once said, "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever." But of course LittleBigPlanet 2 is not a bad game by any means, but there certainly seem to be some bugs in its current state that, should LBP2 be released now, could affect non-internet users forever.

2010-10-05 19:53:00 Author: Unknown User

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2010-10-05 20:15:00 Author: BasketSnake Posts: 2391

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As Shigeru Mayamoto once said, "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever." But of course LittleBigPlanet 2 is not a bad game by any means, but there certainly seem to be some bugs in its current state that, should LBP2 be released now, could affect non-internet users forever. Heh.. I just realised that classic Miyamoto quote is no longer entirely true, because these days a bad game could be fixed with patches. It's more like "A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game will probably stay bad, but may eventually become good, although it'll probably happen too late and everyone will have written it off" anyways, I'm glad MM made the right choice and held LBP2 back until they were happy with it. I bet we all wish more developers (or more accurately, publishers) would allow their games enough time to be top-quality products on the day of release.

2010-10-05 20:28:00 Author: Tig-W Posts: 106

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Personally, I wish more game makers would take the same route. If a game isn't ready and you need a patch to make it "right" then it should not get released. i have several friends that do not have online with their consoles and this directly effects them. Not to mention that needing a patch on day 1, to me, is pretty unprofessional. That "patch" on day 1 is acually "installing" the base game, so it can be updated in the future

2010-10-05 20:33:00 Author: YEAH_NAH Posts: 775

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That "patch" on day 1 is acually "installing" the base game, so it can be updated in the future Not quite.. I believe you are confuing day 1 patches with initial game installs. Day 1 patches are the cause of time between publishing (making the disks, shipping, etc.) and release. Spmetimes the publishing time is long enough for them to already fix more issues.

2010-10-05 20:37:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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Ok, good factor for delaying LBP2 but really, who'd buy it without online capabilities?

2010-10-05 23:07:00 Author: Jedi_1993 Posts: 1518

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Ok, good factor for delaying LBP2 but really, who'd buy it without online capabilities? Exactly. Whilst I completely agree that it's better to have a perfect delayed game rather than an unfinished earlier one...... this is LBP. They aren't marketing this game towards the people who can't get online. If you can't play any of the 3+ million community levels or publish your own then what is even the point of buying it in the first place? That's like buying Uncharted 2 but not playing the story.

2010-10-05 23:19:00 Author: Nuclearfish Posts: 927

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I'm not online. I occasionally can bring my PS3 to work and get DLC and patches. Played the game for over a year without online.

2010-10-05 23:42:00 Author: Biv Posts: 734

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Well thats a fine enough reason for me were just getting more out of it with all of this we all will be glad of the delay sooner or later.

2010-10-05 23:47:00 Author: brendal100 Posts: 70

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvAZ3dn-jQ But seriously, good for them. Takes us back to when games didn't need updates to be awesome. I know this is off topic, but he was playing LBP. Yeah I think that is a really good reason because when I got internet, it took like an hour to update.

2010-10-05 23:56:00 Author: Xero Space Posts: 249

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I remember I was stuck with online lingering games, without high-speed internet. I only played these games to share with my family, and not for online purposes. I surely wanted online capabilities at the time, but from where I lived, it was simply denied. So 'Yay!' for Mm helping people who have no high-speed internet.

2010-10-06 00:04:00 Author: warlord_evil Posts: 4193

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I remember I was stuck with online lingering games, without high-speed internet. I only played these games to share with my family, and not for online purposes. I surely wanted online capabilities at the time, but from where I lived, it was simply denied. So 'Yay!' for Mm helping people who have no high-speed internet. Same thing here one time I never had only for my PS3 but its was ok but then one day my dad got us a router and gives us 100% of wifi Something thing will work out for you, but at least MM are ahead of time.

2010-10-06 00:16:00 Author: Arnald23 Posts: 1843

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I'd say that this was a perfectly good reason to delay the game. You get all caught up into the glory and splendor of PS3's online capabilities that you forget that not everyone has online to begin with. So... yea. Thanks for sharing this schm0!

2010-10-06 00:27:00 Author: ShamgarBlade Posts: 1010

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Hmm this was pretty close to what most were guessing why it got delayed, we all found out thr game was super Buggy, that was all the reason it needed for a delay as it could have turned a lot of new users off from a game thats Buggy and Freezes to Death all the time! xD *mew

2010-10-06 01:17:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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tbh, this is a dang good reason to delay the game. Online is a luxury, and some people cannot have that.

2010-10-06 02:15:00 Author: AA_BATTERY Posts: 1117

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oh i see now well why didn't they just say so i wouldn't be so mad if they told us. still i can wait and thanks to the delay i get black opps for Christmas even though i pre-ordered LBP2 CE XD

2010-10-06 02:20:00 Author: Lgjoka2002 Posts: 538

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LBP2 Delay it's good for me anyway

2010-10-06 03:37:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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oh i see now well why didn't they just say so i wouldn't be so mad if they told us. still i can wait and thanks to the delay i get black opps for Christmas even though i pre-ordered LBP2 CE XD Why were you mad? There was no reason to be mad. The only thing that can come out of LBP2 delayed is more awesomeness.

2010-10-06 04:17:00 Author: Unknown User

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I wish more game shops rent out updates on USB drives. Sure it's something my local store thought of so it's not anywhere else but other stores taking it up would be great. Or how about letting people update their games via thumb drive. Nvm, you'll all talk about hackers. This sounds fair though, if they are delaying to to fix bugs I'd love it if they made the beta easier to get into so they don't have to postpone it any more than needed.

2010-10-06 05:08:00 Author: Snappyguy Posts: 710

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Why were you mad? There was no reason to be mad. The only thing that can come out of LBP2 delayed is more awesomeness. He didn't say he was mad, he said that Mm could have told us that right away, and that he wouldn't be mad. Anyways, im glad we finally get a reason to the delay.

2010-10-06 05:55:00 Author: TNSv Posts: 302

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A very good reason after all we have to be fair to those with no internet and besides even though we have been waiting excitedly for the game 4 ages, this new longer wait will make the moment that you get the game even better,

2010-10-06 12:24:00 Author: Unknown User

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The reason is certainly valid. I am just amazed that ppl would be interested in LBP2 without the online part. To me that is the meat of the game. The story mode is just an appetizer.

2010-10-06 18:03:00 Author: EinRobot Posts: 739

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Guys, keep in mind that the game IS very enjoyable even without online play. Just more limited. On the plus side, those people are spared the horrible of Bomb- and Shark Survival spammed all over the Planet. Also, for some it's not a choice to have online, but they still want to enjoy a good game.

2010-10-06 19:13:00 Author: Melfice Posts: 269

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When I first got LBP, I didn't have much access to the net. Occasionaly in the holidays I could dl the updates. I was working on a class project with LBP, and that global lighting tool would have helped immensely, but alas no internet. LBP is still good offline (7-8/10), but it's just better online (10/10). Props for MM for thinking about the little guy.

2010-10-06 20:50:00 Author: midnight_heist Posts: 2513

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Untrue. I believe you are confuing day 1 patches with initial game installs. Day 1 patches are the cause of time between publishing (making the disks, shipping, etc.) and release. Spmetimes the publishing time is long enough for them to already fix more issues. no, I wasn't "untrue", just worded it wrong lol

2010-10-07 01:26:00 Author: YEAH_NAH Posts: 775

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Hope there wasn't going to be another christmas pack for LBP2 though. Don't wanna wait another year to see

2010-10-07 01:59:00 Author: Snappyguy Posts: 710

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Smart move on Mm's part! Really thinking of the community.

2010-10-07 02:00:00 Author: piggabling Posts: 2979

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I think Mm deserves a good ol' pat in the back for spitting out the truth and polishing the game with their spit of trustworthynes!

2010-10-07 02:39:00 Author: Jord-bord Posts: 153

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no, I wasn't "untrue", just worded it wrong lol ..right. Check the edited version.

2010-10-07 04:32:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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The more I think about this subject the more my respect for Mm grows. Anyone remember BIOSHOCK 2? If memory serves they had it ready to ship, but delayed it once for some legal ($) baloney--then again to dodge a release date that was unfavorable ($). I echo the general opinion here--thanks Mm, I trust your motives and your judgement.

2010-10-07 05:55:00 Author: Unknown User

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