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That's right. Surfing the Google News today, I saw this little interesting article. http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/01/bin.laden.message/?hpt=T2 According to them, Osama Bin Laden, the 9/11 mastermind (a-hole), made a new video that focuses on Muslims and... you won't believe this... relief issues. http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/US/10/01/bin.laden.message/story.laden.afp.gi.jpg I know, "What the-!?" I was shocked to see this guys start talking about it, too. In the video Pauses with the Method of Relief Work,he wishes the Muslims a happy Ramadan. Then he starts giving them advise on investing in infrastructure and how to solve problems like water pollution. The video itself shows pictures of him like in a slideshow, so he's not really revealing anything. But still, how in the world can he be nonchalant about this? It's this man who gave Muslims a bad name, and not to mention he's the reason why our last president got us into this mess (A.K.A. the Iraq War). Well, at least we got to see the more gentler and kinder side of a mass murdered.

2010-10-01 13:19:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Well sure. Just because he's our villain doesn't change the fact that his main goal is to fight for Islam. What, did you think he just sat in a cave somewhere and plot the deaths of everyone? <_> So yeah, doesn't really surprise me to see someone reaching out to the people he believes he's fighting for. <_>

2010-10-01 13:24:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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not to mention he's the reason why our last president got us into this mess (A.K.A. the Iraq War). I'm really sorry to nitpick, but I think you meant to say the Afghan War. AFAIK the Iraq War had nothing to do with Bin Laden, it was all about Weapons of Mass Destruction that were supposedly there (though many would argue that was not the real reason for the war). Anyway, this article seems a bit strange. I'm not generally a conspiracy theorist, but something about the content of the message and the timing of the article/postings seems at odds.

2010-10-01 14:09:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536

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even bad poeple can be nice like me but im not bad im just Evil

2010-10-01 14:21:00 Author: Unknown User

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Well sure. Just because he's our villain doesn't change the fact that his main goal is to fight for Islam. What, did you think he just sat in a cave somewhere and plot the deaths of everyone? <_> So yeah, doesn't really surprise me to see someone reaching out to the people he believes he's fighting for. <_> I pretty much agree with this. The world is not black and white and what's a terrorist for you may be a freedom fighter for someone else. It's not very surprising at all that various extremists organistations try to help the people affected by the floods in Pakistan. After all the more popular your with the people the more will support you. That's why it's silly not to donate money (or food) to the people in Pakistan, because the extremist sure will.

2010-10-01 14:25:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Well sure. Just because he's our villain doesn't change the fact that his main goal is to fight for Islam. What, did you think he just sat in a cave somewhere and plot the deaths of everyone? <_> So yeah, doesn't really surprise me to see someone reaching out to the people he believes he's fighting for. <_> True, but it's just the fact that after all that hatred and terror he caused he decides to go nice and starts helping people. It's really odd and a bit irritating to see him do that. /rabble rabble rabble

2010-10-01 14:57:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Hmm.. 1953: U.S overthrows Prime Minister of Iran. U.S installs Shah as dictator. 1954: U.S overthrows democratically elected President Arbenz of Guatamala, 200,000 civilians killed. 1953-1959: U.S installs, funds, and backs dictator Batista of Cuba. 1959: Ernesto 'Che' Guevara, Fidel Castro, and other revolution members successfully overthrow the Batista regime in Cuba. The U.S proceeds to perform black ops to kill the revolutionaries and reinstate Batista as dictator. 1961: U.S trains anti-revolutionaries to perform false-flag operation Bay Of Pigs, attacking Cuba with planes and amphibious operations. 1963: U.S backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem. 1967: CIA agent trains locals and assassinates Che Guevara in Bolivia. 1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in Southeast Asia. September 11, 1973: U.S stages in Chile, Democratically elected President Salvador Allande assassinated. Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed. 5,000 civilians murdered. 1977: U.S backs military rulers of El Salvador, 70,000 Salvadoreans killed. 1980?s: U.S trained Osama Bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill soviets. CIA gives them $6 billion. 1981: Reagan administrator trains and funds Contras, 30,000 Nicaraguans die. 1982: U.S provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians. 1983: White house secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. 1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriego Cabo serving as President of Panama, disobeys orders from Washington(D.C). U.S invades Panama and removes Noriego. 3,000 civilian casualties. 1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from the U.S. 1991: U.S enters Iraq. Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait. 1998: Clinton bombs ?weapons factory? in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin. CIA meets Osama Bin Laden while he is on dialysis in a hospital. 1991 to present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis. U.N estimates 500,000 children die from bombing and sanctions. 2000-2001: U.S gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in ?aid?. September 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden(supposedly the culprit) uses his expert CIA training to murder 3,000 people. Theres a lot more to the story of the Iraq war, Osama Bin Laden, and the U.S involvement, not only in Iraq but through many parts of history. The above list is a small bit of it and includes peices on the 3 items of my last sentence.

2010-10-01 22:06:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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Theres a lot more to the story of the Iraq war, Osama Bin Laden, and the U.S involvement, not only in Iraq but through many parts of history. What the hell? You just felt like copying and pasting a biased, off-topic list to make the U.S. look bad?

2010-10-01 22:12:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251

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not to mention he's the reason why our last president got us into this mess (A.K.A. the Iraq War). Actually, the U.S. - Iraq war has been going for decades, long before those insidents, only until now tho has it become a highly known issue.

2010-10-01 22:14:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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What the hell? You just felt like copying and pasting a biased, off-topic list to make the U.S. look bad? No its a theory that really has some good points maybe its true (i beleave that)

2010-10-01 22:27:00 Author: Unknown User

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It's not biased or off-topic, and I didn't just post it to make the U.S look bad. That list is about as biased as political slander can get, and I have to question the IQ of someone who can't see that. You can't summarize wars and battles in one sentence. Example: Throughout wars, the U.S. has often been put in a position where it has to choose a side, and one dictator can be better than the other. So yes, the U.S. has supported dictators. I'm not going into detail but it should be clear that the list was written to attack the United States... Has the U.S. made mistakes? Countless times. But what about a list that shows its achievements? I guarantee it would be a lot longer than the political slander you posted. This thread has biased politcal and religious opinions with a severe lack of understanding of who Osama bin Laden is. So you're fighting bias with bias? The list is there to show that the U.S isn't this perfect,pure, place that got attacked by random terrorists. Obviously. You don't need a list to prove that the U.S. isn't perfect or that this war is very much our fault too. btw, they're facts. Incomplete facts with the intention of political criticism.

2010-10-01 22:50:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251

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That list is about as biased as political slander can get, and I have to question the IQ of someone who can't see that. You can't summarize wars and battles in one sentence. Example: Throughout wars, the U.S. has often been put in a position where it has to choose a side, and one dictator can be better than the other. So yes, the U.S. has supported dictators. I'm not going into detail but it should be clear that the list was written to attack the United States... Has the U.S. made mistakes? Countless times. But what about a list that shows its achievements? I guarantee it would be a lot longer than the political slander you posted. I think the only war in there was Vietnam, the rest are just acts of U.S terrorism and terrorism supporting. Not all the people to choose from were dictators, the U.S specifically chose dictators. Mistakes? Willfully known choices. Achievments? Is global terrorism an achievement? Guarantee you a list of positive U.S achievements would be very short. It's not political slander, it would be slander if it were opinions. I didn't list opinions, I listed facts. So you're fighting bias with bias? Not biased. If I wanted biased I would have just done what everyone else does "yerr de derr durr, ____ is eval /trollface/" and not have given facts. Obviously. You don't need a list to prove that the U.S. isn't perfect or that this war is very much our fault too. I was focusing on the parts that had Osama in it but yea I agree with you here. Incomplete facts with the intention of political criticism. Facts with the intention of political awareness.

2010-10-01 23:09:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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Well, what are your sources? I mean, besides the fact that the list is OBVIOUSLY intended to promote anti-US sentiments, where did you happen to find that list?

2010-10-01 23:25:00 Author: Astrosimi Posts: 2046

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On regard to the main matter at hand, the OP, are they sure this is the real deal, or is it a fake? Maybe its an impresonator or somethuing?

2010-10-02 08:02:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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On regard to the main matter at hand, the OP, are they sure this is the real deal, or is it a fake? Maybe its an impresonator or somethuing? I don't know. Some say he's dead, while others say he's alive. We're not sure. But still, it really is a bit irritating to see something like this. Since when do murderers have a change in heart?

2010-10-02 11:24:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551

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Not one of the tapes that has been released since 2001 has been independantly veryfied as geniune. Any that have been independantly verified were found to be fakes, with the voice differing substatially from the known tapes of Osama... they even differ substantially from each other, proving that it's a different person on each tape. This latest one has yet to be independantly veryfied... which would surely be Number 1 on your "to-do" list when you recieve a tape claiming to be from Osama - you would have it independantly veryfied as geniune before passing on it's message... but *shock horror* - not a single media outlet has done so... oh well.. it sells papers doesn't it In the last independantly veryfied tape that was geniune (released on Sep12th 2001 I believe) - Osama says that Al-Qeada were NOT responsible for the attacks. Anyone who still believes in the myth of the Bogey Man of Osama Bin Laden should read this article (http://spectator.org/archives/2009/03/13/osama-bin-elvis). It's not written by a crazy conspiracy theorist - but by a former advisor to Bush and is currently professor emeritus of international relations at Boston University.

2010-10-02 15:19:00 Author: Macnme Posts: 1970

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How about we all watch the fahrenheit 911 by Al Gore because he is never wrong.

2010-10-02 15:23:00 Author: Unknown User

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How about we all watch the fahrenheit 911 by Al Gore because he is never wrong. Farenheit 911 isn't by Al Gore. John Wayne Gacy dressed up as a clown at block parties.

2010-10-02 17:34:00 Author: qrtda235566 Posts: 3664

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even bad poeple can be nice like me but im not bad im just Evil Hitler was a vegetarian, if I remember correctly.

2010-10-02 20:36:00 Author: Jaslow Posts: 775

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Farenheit 911 isn't by Al Gore. John Wayne Gacy dressed up as a clown at block parties. Michael Moore whoops

2010-10-02 20:40:00 Author: Unknown User

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Meh, politics are nothing but live soap operas. Hence why I never get involved. Oh, and apparantly, Hitler also loves baby deer. http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/735/721/06/azgxp1.jpg

2010-10-02 20:44:00 Author: Outlaw-Jack Posts: 5757

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I love my soaps though. That's why I chose Biden as my vice-president, so I could wash out that potty-mouth of his.

2010-10-02 20:45:00 Author: Jaslow Posts: 775

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How about we all watch the fahrenheit 911 by Al Gore because he is never wrong. ManBearPig Caused 9/11

2010-10-02 20:54:00 Author: Unknown User

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Hmm? 1953: U.S overthrows Prime Minister of Iran. U.S installs Shah as dictator. 1954: U.S overthrows democratically elected President Arbenz of Guatamala, 200,000 civilians killed. 1953-1959: U.S installs, funds, and backs dictator Batista of Cuba. 1959: Ernesto 'Che' Guevara, Fidel Castro, and other revolution members successfully overthrow the Batista regime in Cuba. The U.S proceeds to perform black ops to kill the revolutionaries and reinstate Batista as dictator. 1961: U.S trains anti-revolutionaries to perform false-flag operation Bay Of Pigs, attacking Cuba with planes and amphibious operations. 1963: U.S backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem. 1967: CIA agent trains locals and assassinates Che Guevara in Bolivia. 1963-1975: American military kills 4 million people in Southeast Asia. September 11, 1973: U.S stages in Chile, Democratically elected President Salvador Allande assassinated. Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed. 5,000 civilians murdered. 1977: U.S backs military rulers of El Salvador, 70,000 Salvadoreans killed. 1980?s: U.S trained Osama Bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill soviets. CIA gives them $6 billion. 1981: Reagan administrator trains and funds Contras, 30,000 Nicaraguans die. 1982: U.S provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians. 1983: White house secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. 1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriego Cabo serving as President of Panama, disobeys orders from Washington(D.C). U.S invades Panama and removes Noriego. 3,000 civilian casualties. 1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from the U.S. 1991: U.S enters Iraq. Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait. 1998: Clinton bombs ?weapons factory? in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin. CIA meets Osama Bin Laden while he is on dialysis in a hospital. 1991 to present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis. U.N estimates 500,000 children die from bombing and sanctions. 2000-2001: U.S gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in ?aid?. September 11, 2001: Osama bin Laden(supposedly the culprit) uses his expert CIA training to murder 3,000 people. Theres a lot more to the story of the Iraq war, Osama Bin Laden, and the U.S involvement, not only in Iraq but through many parts of history. The above list is a small bit of it and includes peices on the 3 items of my last sentence. Most of those have truth behind them... BUT 1980?s: U.S trained Osama Bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill soviets. CIA gives them $6 billion [CITATION NEEDED]

2010-10-02 21:04:00 Author: TheAffected Posts: 626

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Most of those have truth behind them... BUT Check my last post on previous page.

2010-10-02 21:20:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800

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Check my last post on previous page. *Facepalm* HOW did I miss that...I thought I read the whole thing.

2010-10-02 21:30:00 Author: TheAffected Posts: 626

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