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Pause at 0:09 and read what it says on the TV(scoreboard). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rh5VBMvt9M In the bottom,you can see " WORK IN PROGRESS ",above it,you can see "720p59.94 . Does this mean that LBP2 will still be in 720p?It looks like...this is just what I think... or like a rumor. This shows up once you press the button before all tutorial levels. The video above is recorded by TheFinalBurst.He uploads a lot LBP2 Beta videos. Btw,That video above is a tutorial on Advanced Logic 1.He has uploaded other tutorials,too. So yeah,What do you think?Will the game be in 720p or in 1080p. I think it would be in 720p due to what I found...

2010-09-27 03:10:00 Author: SackBoy98 Posts: 588

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I believe it's been confirmed once or twice by officials that LBP2 will be in 720p... unfortunately...

2010-09-27 03:12:00 Author: Sage Posts: 2068

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Can you remove the <b> from the link? Lol. Yeah, it's 780p 59.94fps XD

2010-09-27 03:12:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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Can you remove the <b> from the link? Lol. Yeah, it's 780p 59.94fps XDI didn't bold the link,but I bolded some other stuff.btw,What does <b> mean?

2010-09-27 03:20:00 Author: SackBoy98 Posts: 588

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Even though this may be true things might change from now to the final game release. Then again I could be wrong, I don't know what it takes to increase 720p to 1080i/p. Maybe it isn't that easy. I know what 720p or 1080p means, it's the resolution (widthxheight) of the display/picture/etc., but there might be issues.

2010-09-27 03:28:00 Author: VnGamer234 Posts: 111

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Remember that 1080p only looks good if the stuff you're rendering isn't crap to begin with. Here's a list of the games that run at 1080p: http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thread_posts.php?thread_id=96023 Yeah, not very impressive, huh? I can tell you that LBP2 is VERY pretty. It looks fantastic.

2010-09-27 03:40:00 Author: comphermc Posts: 5338

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Actually it's 720 @ 30fps I believe. Anyways, it's not like this is new. Most games are 720 and might get upscaled.

2010-09-27 03:44:00 Author: Jgr9 Posts: 56

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Yes, it's 720p, but it has more anti aliasing, so it looks pretty.

2010-09-27 04:20:00 Author: Arkei Posts: 1432

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*Pleads ignorance* Um.. lol, what's so special and/or different about 720p and 1080i/p? I don't have an HDMI cord nor an HDTV and I think it's fine on the resolution I play on. Enlighten me, please (:

2010-09-27 06:51:00 Author: King_Sahle Posts: 42

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Playing playstation on HD is really a big difference from SD. 720p and 1080p or 1080i are screen resolutions. its the ammount of pixels per line in your tv. (Correct if wrong) I believe from low to high is: 720p, 1080i, 1080p I first played on a non HDTV too, but once i went HD i knew i never was going back. You really see the difference in sharpness. =D I think most blue-ray films are 1080p and games in 720p. The only con from my HDTV is that the Wii totally looks **** on it.. but i don't play on it that much so yeah..

2010-09-27 07:13:00 Author: TjoxYorro Posts: 220

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my TV runs on 1080i but it still looks BLOODY good

2010-09-27 07:20:00 Author: YEAH_NAH Posts: 775

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My Tv Runs at 1080p. 32 inches. Looks awesome ! LBP2 Will look even awesomer.

2010-09-27 13:14:00 Author: SackBoy98 Posts: 588

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Aya was saying t'other day that he's pretty sure LBP isn't actually rendered at 720p, it's upscaled to that, whereas LBP2 is actually rendered at 720p... Though I don't actually know - LBP2 is prettier.

2010-09-27 13:24:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Remember that 1080p only looks good if the stuff you're rendering isn't crap to begin with. Here's a list of the games that run at 1080p: http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thread_posts.php?thread_id=96023 Yeah, not very impressive, huh? I can tell you that LBP2 is VERY pretty. It looks fantastic. A three year old list? I mean it's not much more impressive now, but still. PS: LBP 2 runs at 30FPS.

2010-09-27 13:25:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Here you have a lot better list with xbox 360 games to compire made by GPU geeks: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241 1080p or 720p is not imported as native resultion that game is actually rendered there lot of games that TV runs on 1080p but it's rendered in 720p, sometimes even not in same ratio (MGS4 for example) Also interesting fact LBP2 uses anti-aliasing developed by God of War 3 developers that uses Cell (CPU) instead of RSX (GPU), there some other games that also use that, most notable is Saboteur that 360 version of the game had worse anti-aliasing (that is very rare since 360 GPU is better in that)

2010-09-27 13:48:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Playing playstation on HD is really a big difference from SD. 720p and 1080p or 1080i are screen resolutions. its the ammount of pixels per line in your tv. (Correct if wrong) I believe from low to high is: 720p, 1080i, 1080p I first played on a non HDTV too, but once i went HD i knew i never was going back. You really see the difference in sharpness. =D I think most blue-ray films are 1080p and games in 720p. The only con from my HDTV is that the Wii totally looks **** on it.. but i don't play on it that much so yeah.. 720p means progressive 720i means interlaced In p the tv draws like this: R=RED G=GREEN B=BLUE N=NULL NNN NNN NNN RGB NNN NNN RGB BGR NNN RGB BGR GRB In i it draws like this: NNN NNN NNN RNN NNR NRB RGN NGR GRN RGB BGR GRB

2010-09-27 14:30:00 Author: Gui_Rike Posts: 184

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Whatz with everyone and HD? even everyone in my family is like HD is Sooo much better... Im like How? I seen HD and i really don't see the point (ಠ_ಠ yeah sure its a more clean img but is that all? from what i could see it is, i mean So what? and i think people Act like its far better then it truly is, and i mean HD TVs cost a lot and then theres them HD boxs and cords etc Waaay to much money, i say no thanks, LBP and everything else looks more then good enough on my Super Big SD TV, i can tell what everything is just fine, Sackpeople looks as good as any pic i've seen on my PC, and i could careless about seeing things like a little dot on a person's face~ *mew LBP looks nice and LBP2 looks even better, i tell that and i don't even have a HD Tv~

2010-09-27 15:00:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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that's because it is better, and easier on the eyes for me aswell. and it's really hard to get back to SD after being used to HD. have a look again http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/HD_vs_SD_resolutions.png (click for full)

2010-09-27 15:05:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824

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that's because it is better, and easier on the eyes for me aswell. and it's really hard to get back to SD after being used to HD. have a look again http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/HD_vs_SD_resolutions.png (click for full) Wow the one at the end (far right) is ugly~ xD But besides that one its like i said, i don't see the point, sure... im not blind i see that HD is a somewhat better pic, everytime i talk about this, people right off thebat think i must have not seen HD or much of it... i have and i know what HD looks like and the differences don't matter to me, Also~ what the is the difference from 720p to 1080p? it looks 100% the same *mew The HD/SD that have I at the end look more bad then ones with P at the end,

2010-09-27 15:26:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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Aya was saying t'other day that he's pretty sure LBP isn't actually rendered at 720p, it's upscaled to that, whereas LBP2 is actually rendered at 720p... Though I don't actually know - LBP2 is prettier. I never thought of that, but it makes perfect sense really. I see a lot of pixelly artifacts in LBP but I always thought it was a byproduct of the deferred shading. Ah well, the 2 would combine for weird artifacts. I can think of 2 main reasons LBP(2) wouldn't run in 1080p (just my own hypothesis): 1) It uses something called deferred shading. Conventionally, as the vertices are processed by the graphics card the surfaces are colored and shaded, but in LBP it saves the shading until every vertex is processed and then shades everything in a screen pass. This means that no matter how much geometric complexity is onscreen, the amount of shading calculations is the same. Really beneficial in a world like LBP with tons of surfaces and little point lights. The thing is though, to defer the shading until later you need to save multiple images of the scene. A "Geometry Buffer" ... And images take up memory. The PS3 doesn't have much memory to begin with and LBP has tons of things that need to be in memory so I'm sure this was a consideration. 2) Since it's inherently mainly pixel shader centric (A pixel shader is a program that runs on each pixel of a surface) maybe they had issues getting the pixel shader routines running fast enough at 1080p. Also, there's a matter of fill rate. I'm not sure on the PS3's fill rate, but doing several full screen passes per frame surely has some impact.

2010-09-27 15:32:00 Author: Foofles Posts: 2278

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Few games run in 1080p, and LBP2 is not one of them. It looks gorgeous though, even on a 1080p 42" TV, so I wouldn't worry about those extra pixels

2010-09-27 15:59:00 Author: alexbull_uk Posts: 1287

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NO MAN i think thats just the video inside the scoreboard note how you only found that on the video lol i think the game is going to be in 1080p i think maybe just the tutorial video is 720p lol if that makes any sence to you

2010-09-27 23:07:00 Author: PlayStatiowned Posts: 83

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1080, 720, it doesn't matter. Unless you have a 52" plasma TV you won't see a bit of difference. Arthroscopic filtering/anti-aliasing is what really matters.

2010-09-28 03:38:00 Author: xero Posts: 2419

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Even more important that anti-aliasing and filtering is an solid, steady frame-rate. Keeping that streamlined is what keeps your game running without noticeable lag. But all this discussion about 1080p vs. 720p is really irrelevant, as some of the posters above have written. When you bring that disc home and pop it into your PS3, are you really going to be complaining about something so minute?

2010-09-28 04:43:00 Author: schm0 Posts: 1239

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Also 720p is dominant this generation, only simple games get 1080p, you guys should use to it already

2010-09-28 12:24:00 Author: Shadowriver Posts: 3991

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Whatz with everyone and HD? even everyone in my family is like HD is Sooo much better... Im like How? I seen HD and i really don't see the point (ಠ_ಠ That's probably because you have less than average visual resolving skills, or a small TV. yeah sure its a more clean img but is that all? from what i could see it is, i mean So what? No, it's not all, HD is also a wider format than SD. Typically SD is something like 4:3 aspect ratio, and HD is 16:9 or 2.4:1. Natural human vision is wider than 4:3, so to most normal people a 16:9 or higher is more aesthetically pleasing to the eyes. and i think people Act like its far better then it truly is, Noted. and i mean HD TVs cost a lot and then theres them HD boxs and cords etc Waaay to much money, All TVs cost a lot; get a projector. Projectors are much more cost efficient. My projector cost less than my friend's TV, and it produces an image more than 8 times larger. Cables don't cost that much unless you are silly and buy Sony PS3 brand cables. With HDMI, all that matters is that you get a good solid connection. A $5 cable purchased online will produce the same image as a $100 Monster cable from Best Buy. . . as long as the cable gets the signal through. i say no thanks, LBP and everything else looks more then good enough on my Super Big SD TV, i can tell what everything is just fine, Sackpeople looks as good as any pic i've seen on my PC, Is your "Super Big SD TV" over 11 feet wide (137 inches) like my screen? Get a screen that big and then come back and post your results. Again, if you have less than average visual resolving skills you might notice a difference. If so, then you are lucky and don't have to worry about being frustrated with seeing low quality images. I would then envy you. Btw, what resolution is your PC? Maybe you are running it at 640x480, or 800x600. In this case you wouldn't be able to tell the difference no matter how hard you tried. and i could careless about seeing things like a little dot on a person's face~ *mew Then go play games with a 240i resolution like Super Mario Bros.. Mario's head is like 5 pixels wide. For that matter, wear some eye glasses smeared with petroleum jelly and enjoy life at SD! :-D (Btw, if you could care less then that means you do care at least some. Did you mean you COULDN'T care less? ;-) ) LBP looks nice and LBP2 looks even better, i tell that and i don't even have a HD Tv~ ; Both LBP and LBP2 are HD. According to you a better looking image isn't worth having, so why do you care that LBP2 looks better? You should request that LBP2 be downgraded to look like LBP if image quality means nothing to you. Here's my analysis of the situation: 1. You can't tell the difference between HD and SD because you have an SD TV which cannot display HD to begin with. So, you don't care about HD. 2. You can't tell the difference between HD and SD on someone else's HD TV for some unknown reason. So, you don't care about HD. 3. You can tell the difference between LBP2 and LBP graphics. So you seam to care about better looking imagery. (Although this contradicts your previous assertion, "LBP and everything else looks more then good enough" and "Sackpeople looks [sic] as good as any pic i've seen on my PC". Would this mean that LBP2 looks better than "more then [sic] good enough" and that Sackpeople from LBP look as good as any Sackpeople from LBP2 at the same time that LBP2 looks better than LBP?) 4. Many, many people (myself included) can tell the difference between SD and HD, and we prefer HD. So, we care about HD. 5. Many, many people can tell the difference between LBP and LBP2 graphics, and we prefer LBP2 graphics. So, we also care about better graphics. The results of my analysis find that the reasoning found in 1, 2, and 3 are riddled with poor equipment for testing, animosity toward new technology, contradictions, etc., and is not pretty. 4 and 5, however, is just a pure clean opinion and a perfect harmony of ideas. Clean and simple. HD is here to stay, just like: Radio: people must have complained that radio was no better than talking in person or writing a letter. TV: people must have complained that TVs were no better than the radio. Color TV: I'm sure people complained about how they couldn't care less about color. They could see the people on their B&W TVs as well as any color TV. Sound in movies: I know people complained about "talkies." Look it up. Horses: I can just walk. Cars: Horses are better. Aero type planes: I'll just drive, I don't know what all this flying is about. I was supposed to fly, I would have wings. Etc. Etc. Etc. Technology will come, take it or leave it. But, don't get mad at the ones taking it just because you want to be left behind.

2010-10-30 23:52:00 Author: JPipeCleaner Posts: 2

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When you bring that disc home and pop it into your PS3, are you really going to be complaining about something so minute? I wouldn't be complaining as I tend to forget what resolution I'm working with while playing a game in 720 or above. As an aside, I do get annoyed with 480 or anything from an analog cable as it becomes distracting to the point of not being able to immerse myself in a game. This is a shame since the game designers really try to allow a full experience with their game, and I'd like to let them accomplish that. As a corollary, if you brought a LBP2 disc home, popped it in and found out it was 1080p, are you really going to complain that they wasted their time and effort since "all this discussion about 1080p vs. 720p is really irrelevant?" To me, it's not irrelevant. It's very relevant to a lot of people, hence the many posts in this forum about it and the plethora of posts all around the 'net and in conversations around the world, and in the video format used in Blu-ray movies, and in the resolution in cinemas, et cetera. In other words, it's nothing BUT relevant. We're the ones paying for Sony's investment in 1080p, so we discuss it and hope for an ever continuing increase in technology, not stifled by the resistance to increase our capabilities no matter how minute they may appear at present.

2010-10-31 00:11:00 Author: JPipeCleaner Posts: 2

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@Fume: I understand what you mean, When I used to have SD only, I really didn't see much "difference" even when I went to stores or other friends house and saw HD Tv's, it didn't impact me as "Wow, amazing" and all that. But as soon as I got an HDTV and HDMI Cable, I can tell you, there IS a big diference, you may not think so with LBP, because it really isn't a "hughe" difference on LBP, but with a lot of other games and other stuff, the differences are clearly notable. So like I said, I understand where you're opinionn is based from, but trust me, as soon as you see it in front of you in your own Tv, you'll be able to see the dif. (Of course, having and HDTV isn't a "must" but just a reccomendation, and if you mostly only play LBP/ LBP2, then I can see how you really aren't affected much by this.

2010-10-31 00:33:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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@JPipeCleaner Woah dood relax, whats with the wall of text? So what i don't care all that much about HD? that has nothing to do with you or anyone else, its my problem only, it don't mean anything to me others like HD more, it is a better img, others can like what they want, just to me i don't care, i just get sick of how others keep telling me i should find it better then i do, i don't need glasses or anything i see fine, i see the same as i ever have and most likely always will, SD TV or not, i'm a Artist so duh i can see the differences, i just don't care much man, plus some of what you were saying got very close to trolling me/being rude, try to be more careful with your words, its just my opinion it won't change anyone else's nor does it have anything to do with theirs, but you did say this was just your opinion so its fine, see here's the difference, that being i can't tell the difference of HD and SD, and that i can tell(i said i could to be honest) and that i don't care about the differences, it don't mean much to me so i don't notice the differences much, its fine you like your HD, you or anyone who does, has nothing to do with me or what i like, and no i don't believe SD makes your eyes bad, i watch TV almost everyday... well i used to, i only use my TV for games now, i use my PC and download/watch my shows online anymore(its better, TV sucks, i want to watch what i want when i want) but yeah my Eyes have been the same my whole life, and i been at my PC, TV, Gameboy/DS/PSP all the time everyday, So whatever~ =P *mew yeah its fine Silverleon, i know what you mean, just gets a little annoying having people telling me all the time HD is much better, and why don't i have it already? (>.>)

2010-10-31 00:34:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261

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lot of games are sub720p (far more than 1080p) so true 720p is a good resolution for this generation and MLAA a good antialiasing, work good on LBP2

2010-11-01 19:35:00 Author: upsilandre Posts: 12

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I hope it's true 720p I have a pretty good high res, but small monitor, and for some reason everything is quite jaggy and there's awful dithering in LBP1 (like it's not on the full color scale). I'm not sure what it is. Every other game looks great. Settings are all maxed out, hdmi. Just this game looks quite rough around the edges (quite literally). but like someone said, could be upscaling.. the dithered colors look like they'd come from a 480i signal. It's most noticeable on flat/pure color surfaces, like rubber. You can also see some slight vertical banding. Ever so slight.. When you're having fun and playing, it's not so noticeable. But when you stop to smell the digital stickered flowers, welllll....

2010-11-01 23:02:00 Author: Cheezy WEAPON Posts: 283

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Who cares if it's 720p? Barely any games run in 1080p anyways and they're still gorgeous. I can assure you, LBP2 looks absolutely amazing on a 42" HDTV with HDMI. Unlke the last game, the graphical problems are VERY few and far between.

2010-11-02 01:02:00 Author: Sack-Jake Posts: 1153

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My tv is not HD so... hahaha. It's not even widescreen for that matter. My tv pretty much looks like a big box with poor resolution. The good thing about my tv, is that there is no lag. Works well with Call of Duty. Anyways, LBP2 looks great on my crappy tv. So if you got HD... boy you got yourself a little piece of heaven right there. 1080p is not needed.

2010-11-02 01:44:00 Author: ShamgarBlade Posts: 1010

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I was about to say exactly what sham said but then i read his comment... still if it looks good on a crappy black box with a glass screen then you shouldnt worry too much

2010-11-02 02:18:00 Author: Skalio- Posts: 920

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lolol same as the two comments above me

2010-11-02 02:32:00 Author: TheZimInvader Posts: 3149

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Yup. I've got a smallish HD tv in my bedroom, but before that I survived just fine with SD tv. All I can say about LBP2, is that who cares what resolution it is? I've played it, and I can tell you it looks awesome as it is, (And I'm sure other BETA people can back me up on this too), so don't worry about it! It's great as it is.

2010-11-02 04:10:00 Author: standby250 Posts: 1113

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My TV's Full 1080p HD, I won access to LittleBIGPlanet 2's BETA via GamingBolt and it IS still 720p but really, I don't care... much. It's still by far A GORGEOUS 720p game. And I imported my level (still working on it) (https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=38823-PSYCHOLOGICAL-HORROR-Clock-Tower-the-first-fear) and OMG. It lagged sooo badly in LBP but the lights and shadows, it ran smooth and everything was so detailed. I was happy as much as I got the beta key for LBP2. But anyways... even though it's still 720P, it's still a gorgeous looking game. Even better than LBP was. NOTE that this is still beta so just imagine what the game would look like when it finally reaches the stores! O_O

2010-11-02 04:14:00 Author: Unknown User

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My TV's Full 1080p HD, I won access to LittleBIGPlanet 2's BETA via GamingBolt and it IS still 720p but really, I don't care... much. It's still by far A GORGEOUS 720p game. It's true, they disguise it well with anti-aliasing and nice lighting effects. The entire game seems so smooth yet defined, very lovely to play. Here are some points, also. 1280x720 = 921,600 pixels 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels ... that's 200,000 over double the amount.., that's quite a substantial difference. The only reason some of you claim to not notice a difference will be because either; A - Your running on an SD system anyway B - Your super expensive nice hd has some delicious upscaling tech inside it I use this monitor (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-P2450H-24-inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B002DPYQSW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1288696488&sr=8-1) to play both PC games and run my ps3 through, the difference is very noticable when running games on either. Not that I personally care, my list of games has absolutely zero focus on graphics; aka; demon's souls, disgaea 3, motorstorm 2, MAG, valkyria chronicles etc. (And to anyone saying that 1080 games don't look any better, excuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_War_III) me? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_turismo_5))

2010-11-02 12:21:00 Author: Asbestos101 Posts: 1114

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Basically, 1080 is awesome, but 720 is fine enough.

2010-11-02 13:19:00 Author: gdn001 Posts: 5891

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1080 is awesome 720p is gorgeous A cat is fine too

2010-11-02 14:34:00 Author: Pete1991 Posts: 225

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Not to brag buuut I got a 1080p 3D Tv

2010-11-04 18:48:00 Author: CheesyDemon Posts: 170

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Congratulations. Hope you enjoy the 2 3D games and 4 3D movies. Oh and all those great 3D series on TV.

2010-11-04 19:48:00 Author: Syroc Posts: 3193

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Everyone says 1080p is the best, but if you look at monitors vs. TVs, 1080p is terrible resolution. I run everything on my computer at 1600x1200, and I really notice a difference when playing a game on my TV and consoles vs. on my computer. But that's fine, because it's not about the resolution. I still own every console of this generation, and 90% of every console from every generation in the last 20 years. Resolution is overrated, gameplay is where it's at. And in that regard, LittleBIGPlanet will always be a winner.

2010-11-12 07:12:00 Author: xero Posts: 2419

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Everyone says 1080p is the best, but if you look at monitors vs. TVs, 1080p is terrible resolution. Fun fact: 1080 refers to the horizontal scanlines, so resolution is equivalent to 1920*1080, which is kind of on par with 1600x1200, just a different aspect ratio. I'd suggest it's your TV being underspec'ed in comparison to your monitor, rather than some inadequacy of the 1080 resolution that is causing the massive difference that you speak of.

2010-11-24 17:24:00 Author: rtm223 Posts: 6497

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Fun fact: 1080 refers to the horizontal scanlines, so resolution is equivalent to 1920*1080, which is kind of on par with 1600x1200, just a different aspect ratio. I'd suggest it's your TV being underspec'ed in comparison to your monitor, rather than some inadequacy of the 1080 resolution that is causing the massive difference that you speak of. I know not the cause, only the effect.

2010-11-27 04:12:00 Author: xero Posts: 2419

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1600x1200 = 1,920,000px 1920x1080 = 2,073,600px So they are basically the same, as rtm said. It'll be a difference in quality between your monitor and tv. Also, dot pitch ratio will count for a lot too. If you've got a 19" monitor running 1600x1200 then you'll have a lot more pixels per inch than a 42" screen at 1080. So if you get up close to your tv, then naturally you're gonna' notice a difference. That said, I play my pc games and ps3 games on the same 24" 1080p monitor with big ole' speakers, so the only difference I notice is whether i'm using a controller or mouse and keyboard

2010-11-27 14:52:00 Author: Asbestos101 Posts: 1114

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Also 1600 x 1200 is 4:3 1920 x 1080 is 16:9

2010-11-27 15:26:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728

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720p is FINE. Trust me here, the Beta is Soooo much more clean and crisper than the first, and the lighting effects are impressive. And really you can't tell the difference on a small monitor, you have to see it on a big HD screen in order to tell a difference.

2010-11-28 00:16:00 Author: DaSackBoy Posts: 606

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