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Suggestion- Chatroom levels!

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You know what would be the cherry on top of the community cake which is LBP2? Well, if you've looked at the title of this thread, yes. I think an excellent addition to the gorgeous upcoming game would be a chatroom level- within which you can literally hang out with other people, walk away from other people without dying/causing others to die, with an increase in the number of people allowed (perhaps as many as a dozen). This would be sort of like Playstation Home- only fun (sorry Home :|). You could design a level, with fun little gadgets to play around with, start it up, and invite a bunch of friends, and talk, hang out, rappel, and Creatinator with your friends. And, so there wouldn't be confusion between actual levels and "party" levels, there could be two "publish" functions- one for gameplay, one for chatting and hanging out with friends!

So, what do you think? Would you be interested in a Party Level addition? This would also be great for "clans" and groups which prefer to be more ingame than online messaging.
2010-09-26 21:35:00

Author:
Assasinof6
Posts: 30


Uhhh.... what? Why not just go to a chat room.... or invite people into one of your levels in create mode.... or just stick with Home (even if it is lame). Hey.... isn't this forum sort of like one giant chat room? I fail to see what chat rooms have to do with anything related to playing LBP games?

Clans? What the heck? Clans don't exist in LBP. Clearly people are confused as to the whole concept of what a clan is and what it's purpose is where gaming is related.

Sorry, but I honestly see no value whatsoever in the idea of creating LBP chatrooms. This game's tag line is Play, Create, Share... Not Create, Kick Back, Chat,
2010-09-26 21:55:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


I think that would be pretty cool. Go in and talk about creations and stuff.

I only see two real problems:

1. Lag- The game can get pretty dang laggy with just 4 people. Maybe limiting the thermo a bit could fix it? Although, I don't know much about the game's engine...
2. Severs- I think they should be on their own sever so they aren't mixed in with real levels. It would be more work for Mm, but it would benefit all of us.

I don't know how much I'd use it, but it would be fun for a lot of people!
2010-09-26 22:01:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979


@Rustbukkit, look like you have no idea about LBP casual players, who sit in pod a lot (talk about girl problems) make so called clans and create crap or none problem is i got lot of them on my friend list (don't know why), and it's majority of LBP users that we entertain with our levels.2010-09-26 22:05:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


It's just when I'm creating, I get ideas a lot more often and more lucidly if I'm with people, talking, playing around, then if I'm by my lonesome, or talking on here. And "clans" do exist, but I prefer to think of them as creative groups (hence the quotation marks).2010-09-26 23:00:00

Author:
Assasinof6
Posts: 30


@Rustbukkit, look like you have no idea about LBP casual players, who sit in pod a lot (talk about girl problems) make so called clans and create crap or none problem is i got lot of them on my friend list (don't know why), and it's majority of LBP users that we entertain with our levels.

Oh I know they exist alright. I just figured if I keep denying their silly existence and make fun of them, they will implode into nothingness and finally go away. The notion of "clans" in LBP is more ridiculous and funny than pictures of cats and dogs with flea cones around their necks. You speak the truth... the very, very sad truth.

PS. Looks like it's time to do some "Spring" cleaning on your friends list.
2010-09-26 23:03:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Isn't this like what Online Create is for?2010-09-26 23:04:00

Author:
Sack-Jake
Posts: 1153


PS. Looks like it's time to do some "Spring" cleaning on your friends list.

Nahhh, i need someone to test my levels and don't have idea how it works and it's easier to invite them
2010-09-27 00:58:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


clans are great they show creativeness and bring people together to make new friends. heck ive met lbps best creators all through clans and making friends with members and trying contests. perhaps you dont understand the meaning of community and togetherness2010-09-27 01:19:00

Author:
Unknown User


Oo__G4R3TH__oO what Rustbukkit means is fact that term "clan" are suppose to be only in competitive team in arena and don't fit in art of creation, so there no point of clans in LBP2010-09-27 02:42:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Oo__G4R3TH__oO what Rustbukkit means is fact that term "clan" are suppose to be only in competitive team in arena and don't fit in art of creation, so there no point of clans in LBP

Let the man speak for himself- he may just hate the idea in general.
2010-09-27 02:51:00

Author:
Assasinof6
Posts: 30


yep, a clan is usually for a FPS game
so, you can't have a clan in LBP...
although.. in little big planet 2 you can create VS levels so... :/
(i.e: that CTF level someone made)
2010-09-27 07:26:00

Author:
YEAH_NAH
Posts: 775


clans are great they show creativeness and bring people together to make new friends. heck ive met lbps best creators all through clans and making friends with members and trying contests. perhaps you dont understand the meaning of community and togetherness

Your response is a legitmate one and I certainly don't want this to turn into a heated arguement, but a legitimate debate is always welcome in my books... so I'll try to explain why the term Clan is not applicable, It seems to me, that your response is infering that any organized gathering of like minded individuals assembling to spend time to share their common interests is a clan. If that were true, getting together on weekends to join a social knitting club, or a model making club would involve being in a clan. Heck, if the term were that loose, my neighbourhood takes part in clan-like activities several times a year. It also infers that LBPCentral itself is a clan. Trust me... I don't do Clans... so it's not.

Your ideas expressed above do not constitute a Clan, it's just a goup of like-minded individuals spending time together online. There is no competetive angle, no score board, no leader board, no scrims (scrimmages), no tournaments....no Clan. I clearly remember when the first few people started creating "Clan Levels" and showing up claiming they were making Clans and you had to apply to be in them but "anyone" could join (doesn't sound too L33T to me if anyone can join). In actual online team-based shooter game Clans (which is where the term originated), you usually have to prove yourself to get in and actually try out for the Clan through an exhibition of your skills at eliminating the enemy, showing leadership, being able to follow orders and plans, and communication. Does any of this apply to any element of LBP? Answer = no. You will never hear someone in a Clan playing Killzone or COD say, "Alright people! Let's get in there and Play, Create, Share!! Give 'em Hell boyz!!!". I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but the fact that people are trying to use the term "Clan" just because they think it sounds cool somehow, is a ridiculous notion. I'm all for bringing people together and making new friends, especially where creativity is concerned.... that's why I come to this clan.... I mean.... forum. No offense, but the "best creators" on this site seem far too intelligent to be joining up for Clans (at least, I've not heard any of them mention their Clans yet). It's just a silly term that doesn't apply to anything LBP, in my opinion. You can call it what you want folks... but it doesn't equate to anything that remotely resembles a clan... other than the fact that there are more than one of you. And yes, I fully understand the meaning of community and togetherness.



Let the man speak for himself- he may just hate the idea in general.

Actually, Shadowriver is quite astute and 100% correct. What else could I have meant? Clans in LBP = ridiculous. Just because people call them Clans, doesn't make them clans by definition. An entire group of people could start calling dogs chickens, but they'd still be dogs in the end... because they don't meet the proper criteria to suddenly become chickens.

As for the thread topic, I do not hate the idea in general... I just don't see any real value in it for the majority of the community. In a situation where you are trying to appeal to the masses, an idea like this just isn't popular enough to get the vote. I don't think that Mm should spend the time working on this kind of feature for the game... especially when there are so many bigger issues they need to address to get things working correctly and keep the community satisfied. So again... don't hate the idea in general, I just don't think it's applicable to LBP. I understand and totally respect that "you personally" get ideas more often when in the company of others than when you are alone or talking on here, but I don't see how that applies to your chat room idea. It sounds to me like you are asking for an increase in the maximum limit of players allowed in a level at one time more than anything else. Maybe I'm missing something here?
2010-09-27 08:39:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


longest... post.... EVER!!
but everything said was dead on correct
2010-09-27 10:17:00

Author:
YEAH_NAH
Posts: 775


Let the man speak for himself- he may just hate the idea in general.

weel this is what i also think about "clans" on LBP and i suppose he thinks the same. and don't mind that someone hate it,since there always be someone who hate it, let it be and don't talk with him or you will ague forever
2010-09-27 11:01:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


'Clans' can also go on facepalm-inducing warz in LBP. Sorry.

I also fear the incoming bucket of lag with 11 other peoples going on a slapfest.

I don't see the point of chatrooms, sorry
2010-09-27 18:48:00

Author:
Unknown User


With batte arenas level and we might see clan and wars, we gonna see LBP in MLG lol 2010-09-27 21:30:00

Author:
Shadowriver
Posts: 3991


Hmmm i was under the idea you could already use LBP as a chat room, i know i have
me and my buds have chatted for many houers before and honestly if they were gonna add
anything to make the chatting better on LBP it just be them adding Chat Logs,
You guys know what i mean And as to not be annoying for when you'd not want it up,
it should be a button in your Popit, Boy this be nice, how i hate telling a person to repeat them selfs~

As to the adding more players thing, Nah not gonna happen, game lags a lot with 4 players as it is~ ;3 *mew

Also one more thing, why not just open a chat room while on ps3? last i known theres a button on PSN
you can use to make a chat room you can use while even playing other games like LBP, and it has chat logs also can
hold like 20 people in a chat, just use that while playing, its there for a reason im sure *mew
2010-09-28 14:26:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I think LBP is as much of a chat room as it can be.But a built in forums would be good, or a portal to the Ps3 forums. More questions would be asked / answered then.

Maybe we could make some PSN accounts "LBPC Chat" and just host chat rooms? Oh wait, they have to be online to do that, and some people might not quit. I thought I was onto something!
2010-09-28 14:32:00

Author:
Snappyguy
Posts: 710


Ah, clans. Though pointless, by definition, they are clans, albeit not clans by what we've come to know them as. It was mentioned before that a clan is competitive, which in most cases is true. However, by definition of the word, they still are clans.

clan [klan]
-noun
3. a group of people, as a clique, set, society, or party, especially as united by some common trait, characteristic, or interest: a clan of actors and directors.*

Now, by no means does this mean I'm defending clans in LBP (I hate them as much as the next guy, they really are pointless in LBP), but they exist, they can be classified as clans, so let them be. One day when they're older they'll understand.

But on topic, I think chat rooms would be somewhat pointless in LBP. If they did that, they might as well make the whole game 12 player.

*Taken from Dictionary.com's unabridged dictionary.
2010-09-28 22:50:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419


Its not the clans that kill this games, its the people that belittle people and smash people who are inspired in this game that ruin it... You guys thing your all king crap because you create stuff.. But in reality you give this game a bad name... Clans, lol, go google the def. Because FPS's stole the word doesnt mean they erased the true meaning from the dictionary. Someone mentioned the PLAY, CREATE, SHARE topic and that the chat room idea doesnt apply.. LOL... Look at the success the MODSPOT had in Modnation.. Honestly if they were smart they would incorporate something similar. And to all the "so called" top dogs in this forum post talking about clans ruining the game, look in the mirror. First off its a **** kids game first, remember that. I love sitting on the couch playing with my 3 year old and he has a blast. So if a group aof 10 year old what to create a "CLAN", honestly ask yourself how it affects you. ?!?!?

ITs the people like you that drag the game down... Haters, and Belittlers... Just cause you spend 3 weeks straight making a level doesnt give you a free pass to be a ****. Instead you should rise up and be the one to inspire anyone and everyone to play this title.

Just my 2 cents... makes me want to quote a Kanye Live MTV performance..

?Let?s have a toast for the douchebags
Let?s have a toast for the ********
Let?s have a toast for the scumbags
Every one of them that I know"

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/571850/runaway-live.jhtml#id=1647211
2010-09-30 04:55:00

Author:
Unknown User


Chatrooms in LBP/2 would be neat but pointless. The PSN has it's own chatrooms, you can use them!
and I'm fine with these 'clans' in LBP (in fact I had one in my early days, with a poorly made level too xD) as long as they don't bother me.

@ronin I know it filters it, but still, don't curse. and I've never heard of anyone who can spend 3 weeks straight (straight means without a break, if you don't know) making a level, as most of the "top dogs" (Experienced creators should be what you mean) Have a career/education that probably takes up most of their time.

Also, the "success" of modspot? I don't see many people chat on there, I just see people drifting around the middle hill thing, and people ramming each other to get to the top.
2010-09-30 08:03:00

Author:
Matimoo
Posts: 1027


i guess you dont spend much time in Mod Nation... Pretty much all the top creators hang out together and give advice and help with other creators who arent as experienced... I cant vount how many thank yous, and tid bits of help My wife and I have gotten. Ask anyone who creates in that game if the modspot works... Its a great networking platform for creators... The ramming is a bit annoying i would agree... lol... but that is something that could be easily solved if the creators of modnation actually cared to fix it... LBP in my opinion has a more refined team of "actually gamers" IMHO

The 3 weeks was an exaggeration...

Curse? I was quoting Kanye... geezz ... lol
2010-09-30 08:38:00

Author:
Unknown User


We would gather around to do what? While it would be a neat little feature I don't see the point in it being in LBP. Clans work for FPShooters because there main focus is competition. If there are people dedicated to making competitive levels for their clans or for any clans then I would welcome the idea of chatrooms, as it would be a needed feature. I'm generally don't like clans but like I said, if a good part of people find them enjoying and it doesn't negatively affect everybody then I welcome it.

@ ronin
You seem to be pretty passionate even though you said it's only a kids game.
I agree "clans" don't wreck the game but accusing people here, a forum of... wait, was it players or creators? Well, I forget. Anyway accusing them of belittling people and giving the game they love a bad name? When most people here are super friendly and help each other out.

I hate how people automatically assume where evil because we have a few extra virtual digits on a server somewhere.
This forum tries to inspire, Remember those LBPC logic pack levels? What we can't stop is all the copied bomb, shark, <enter infamous cool page copier spammer> levels, that is up to Mm. I would rather Mm makes sure that all the crap never shows up ever again then implement net code for 4 plus more player support for a little feature.
2010-09-30 08:56:00

Author:
PPp_Killer
Posts: 449


Its kinda a non-needed feature..
Btw: absolutely fun <----> Horrible idea. theres a huge space of opinions between those two
2010-09-30 09:22:00

Author:
Smelling-Cowboy
Posts: 668


You can walk away from other people without dying if you are online. How about all the lag when 10000 are using it same time?2010-09-30 09:44:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


Its not the clans that kill this games, its the people that belittle people and smash people who are inspired in this game that ruin it... You guys thing your all king crap because you create stuff.. But in reality you give this game a bad name... Clans, lol, go google the def. Because FPS's stole the word doesnt mean they erased the true meaning from the dictionary. Someone mentioned the PLAY, CREATE, SHARE topic and that the chat room idea doesnt apply.. LOL... Look at the success the MODSPOT had in Modnation.. Honestly if they were smart they would incorporate something similar. And to all the "so called" top dogs in this forum post talking about clans ruining the game, look in the mirror. First off its a **** kids game first, remember that. I love sitting on the couch playing with my 3 year old and he has a blast. So if a group aof 10 year old what to create a "CLAN", honestly ask yourself how it affects you. ?!?!?

ITs the people like you that drag the game down... Haters, and Belittlers... Just cause you spend 3 weeks straight making a level doesnt give you a free pass to be a ****. Instead you should rise up and be the one to inspire anyone and everyone to play this title.

Just my 2 cents... makes me want to quote a Kanye Live MTV performance..

?Let?s have a toast for the douchebags
Let?s have a toast for the ********
Let?s have a toast for the scumbags
Every one of them that I know"

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/571850/runaway-live.jhtml#id=1647211

Again, don't want to get into an arguement but a healthy debate I will welcome.

I create all the time in LBP, but I certinly don't think I'm King "ahem",,, what was the word you used? Oh never mind... it's not important really. I'm actually quite a humble creator if I do say so myself, and have certainly never bragged about any of my creations... let alone ruined the game for anyone or given LBP a bad name. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion, but you are quite wrong about it. The OP asked a legitimate question about an idea they had, and we responded. If they didn't want an honest answer, they shouldn't have asked the question. I didn't have time to see if perhaps they were someone who's feelings might be hurt if I didn't like their idea, and quite frankly, I shouldn't have to. This site is for all gamers of all ages. I'm not going to change my answers to suit someone who is a kid anymore than I will if I'm responding to an adult. Sorry, but it's not a requirement to be a member of this forum. So far I haven't seen any "top dogs" in this forum, and I'm still not sure why they should look in the mirror or why you think they should? Honestly, I don't understand what you are trying to say here?

As for definitions, it's really not the point. As I clearly stated in my original response, I was speaking of Clans as it relates to gaming. I'm not going to re-iterate it for you as I've already outlined it's origins and purpose in a previouse post (where gaming is concerned). I'm well aware that the term "Clan" is associated to the word "group" in the dictionary. . The point is that it's silly for people to try to use a term just because it sounds cool... which is the only reason LBPers ever started using the term in the first place. I can guarantee you that if the term had never been used for FPS's, no one who plays LBP would have ever thought to start calling themselves a Clan... it's just a ridiculous stretch to even go there. I'll agree that it hurts no one for them to call themselves a clan if they think it somehow makes them cool, but I have every right to correct them that the term really is being used out of context and is ridiculous and silly. Oh... and it's not just little kids that use the term, it's other people who ought to know better as well... I've talked to a few of them. Meh... whatever.

I think you might be referring to me when you bring up the Play, Create, Share point that was made. Yes, that was me. I still stand by my statement. Chat rooms are for chatting, not creating. Like I originally said, this is like one big chat room... and probably the best source on the internet to chat about the game and learn new tips and tricks where it's concerned. So I still don't see the value in having a built in chat room level. That doesn't make me evil, it's just my opinion and I don't think the majority of people would use it. Sorry if that bothers you so much.

Also, making comparisons to MNR is redundant. Not everyone here plays or is familiar with it or it's chat system, so it's not going to help you to convince us it would be a good thing to implement in LBP. This game has been around far longer than MNR and works well just the way it is. Just because something is new or can be done... doesn't mean it should.

As for quoting Kanye... I'm not sure that's something that shed's a very positive light on you. He's racist, demeaning to women, and acts like a spoiled little brat, not exactly a good role-model... especially for our younger members.

Speaking of our younger members, please try to keep the language cleaner in the future... it's not appreciated by the community.
Cheers!




I don't know what emotion this gas mask is supposed to suggest, but I'm adding it 'cause it looks cool.
2010-09-30 23:00:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


Can we please try to steer the thread back towards the point of the OP (which was about chatrooms), and try to avoid arguing about the definition of the word "clan", which is not only off-topic, but ultimately futile, as everyone's gonna have their own interpretation of the meaning of that word in this context.

Thanks!
2010-10-01 00:37:00

Author:
Aya042
Posts: 2870


I think it'd be good enough to just have a chat log, I hate how you get like 5 seconds to read a message and it's gone.2010-10-01 00:39:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Can we please try to steer the thread back towards the point of the OP (which was about chatrooms), and try to avoid arguing about the definition of the word "clan", which is not only off-topic, but ultimately futile, as everyone's gonna have their own interpretation of the meaning of that word in this context.

Thanks!
Sure thing! Sorry, I thought clans were brought up in the OP and have been part of the topic since the beginning.



I think it'd be good enough to just have a chat log, I hate how you get like 5 seconds to read a message and it's gone.

Well this I can agree with! The messaging system in-game is certainly flawed to a degree for this reason. I've had to ask players to repeat themselves too often to not agree on this point. It's annoying.
2010-10-01 01:55:00

Author:
Rustbukkit
Posts: 1737


To reiterate, chat rooms in LBP would be pointless. Clans (regardless of their "context", they exist, accept that) are pointless, and can chat elsewhere. If someone really wants something like that and are serious about it, invest in a ventrilo server and be near a computer.2010-10-04 04:55:00

Author:
xero
Posts: 2419


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