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someone just asked a question in another thread and it got me thinking... could a virus be made with the logic chips? i certainly hope not, but it's food for thought

2010-09-21 21:17:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910

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thats a good question. id like to know if logic chips have arithmatic, cos, sin, tan, and more built in for these possibilities.

2010-09-21 21:18:00 Author: XxWormholexX Posts: 101

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I think it is just as possible as all these evil villains in LBP trying to destroy create moons and pods Short answer: no

2010-09-21 21:41:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653

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No, because LBP levels are sandboxed. I am fearing, that some day some one will make an object that like... YLOD's your PS3....

2010-09-21 21:44:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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You can't make a virus in the sense that it could spread itself to different ps3's against the ps3 owner's will. I believe that I was the one who posted about the virus and it was in the context of a joke. Unless the ps3 gets hacked(really hacked) then the answer is no. if the ps3 does get hacked then still no just using lbp2 logic. but maybe for actually editing game code and stuff.

2010-09-21 21:44:00 Author: nagrom_17 Posts: 120

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What sort of virus could one possibly make with logic chips? I'm not sure what you're asking here....you talking like a computer virus? That would be downright impossible, a virus is a bit of code designed to perform mischief on a computer system while exploiting security vulnerabilities. I mean, I suppose you could technically simulate a virus in LBP2, like have the sackbots in a level being all nice and stuff, then the player pulls a switch which turns the sackbot behavior from nice to manically dangerous and be all like 'Oh no, the sackbots have a virus, you have to cure it!'....or you could prolly make a Dr. Mario level with viruses that are set up to disappear when three of the same type touch.... But the computer virus?Almost definitely not.

2010-09-21 21:47:00 Author: mogwaimon Posts: 53

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i just consider it an interesting thought. i'm not suggesting specific viruses that would crash your PS3. perhaps a virus that would infect your levels with eyes or lips until you restart your PS3, that sort of thing

2010-09-21 21:52:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910

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I suppose that in coordination with a glitch that would make a sackbot you were controlling stay controlled even after you leave the level(sackbot replaces your character) you could make a sackbot that emitts something when not near a cartain tag and just have that tag be in your level. so in your level its normal but anywhere else its spewing stuff. basically you would need a glitch for it to do anything.

2010-09-21 21:55:00 Author: nagrom_17 Posts: 120

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LBP2 logic is LBP1 logic, but, as examples: -more thermo-efficient -faster -fast to create -collapsible inside microchips -simpler Examples of what they cannot do: -turn water into wine -create malicious viruses -perform voodoo rituals -pay the bills

2010-09-21 21:57:00 Author: Incinerator22 Posts: 3251

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LBP2 logic is LBP1 logic, but, as examples: -more thermo-efficient -faster -fast to create -collapsible inside microchips -simpler Examples of what they cannot do: -turn water into wine -create malicious viruses -perform voodoo rituals -pay the bills Although they can make water appear to have turned into wine... you can't really taste it so it doesn't matter for the player. With logic you can also make viruses happen inside your own level creating an epic storyline You can sequence and activate voodoo rituals with logic. Also if you build your own bills into a level then you can pay them with logic But umm yeah, logic is restricted to the level it is in, it can't affect anything outside the level.

2010-09-21 22:08:00 Author: napero7 Posts: 1653

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Maybe one that messes with the level that it's in, but it won't be able to spread, obviously.

2010-09-21 22:11:00 Author: X-FROGBOY-X Posts: 1800

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Maybe an object with a secret microchip that emits sackbots with contollinators that shoot bombs everywhere, destroying all your stuff you built If you count that as a virus, then yes. But technically, that's not a virus. Just spam

2010-09-21 22:31:00 Author: Jord-bord Posts: 153

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Maybe an object with a secret microchip that emits sackbots with contollinators that shoot bombs everywhere, destroying all your stuff you built If you count that as a virus, then yes. But technically, that's not a virus. Just spam Oh its close enough for a virus if you go around doing that in peoples levels, especially if you hide it nicely. :hero: Just, if you do do that as a joke, only do it once, please, lol.

2010-09-21 23:50:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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[...] Examples of what they cannot do: [...] -perform voodoo rituals [...] I wouldn't be too sure about that. We do have several "bone" objects and decorations, a physics engine, and randomizers. We could have bones thrown out randomly and then some complex piece of LBP2 logic would analyze where the bones end up and in what position, and then predict the future! Or maybe it could just summon the Mega Ultra Chicken... wait just one minute! There IS a Mega Ultra Chicken in LBP2!!! :eek:

2010-09-22 02:09:00 Author: Gilgamesh Posts: 2536

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I wouldn't be too sure about that. We do have several "bone" objects and decorations, a physics engine, and randomizers. We could have bones thrown out randomly and then some complex piece of LBP2 logic would analyze where the bones end up and in what position, and then predict the future! Or maybe it could just summon the Mega Ultra Chicken... wait just one minute! There IS a Mega Ultra Chicken in LBP2!!! :eek: Must... resist... spam... response... relating... to... aqua... teen... lest... rtm... boil... me... alive.. ... frak... it... But yeah, I don't think LBP2 is THAT advanced :/

2010-09-22 02:14:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882

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A microchip that hides itself and attempts to hide other microchips in other things?? uuh, cant reaaly be done, its not like you get to pour code in. cant just .position, or .parent. its gota be emited..

2010-09-22 02:16:00 Author: mattbru77 Posts: 143

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You can make viruses if you first create computer!

2010-09-22 06:02:00 Author: waD_Delma Posts: 282

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Make an object with an hidden microchip that desolves everything in a level I don't think you can but it would be awesome ;P

2010-09-22 09:39:00 Author: TjoxYorro Posts: 220

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Make an object with an hidden microchip that desolves everything in a level I don't think you can but it would be awesome ;P Intheory, you could make a microchip with like 200 common tag names across all colors.... Eh, better name your logic unique.

2010-09-22 15:04:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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Intheory, you could make a microchip with like 200 common tag names across all colors.... Eh, better name your logic unique. You would also need to create something that others would use to be able to have it spread. In the first place, so I for one will not blindly use any logic from non-well-known creators. Why are we giving people ideas about how to make mischief logic? While we are at it you could make a timer, set to like an hour or so so that when someone puts it in their level then is testing and stuff not in pause mode eventually it would activate (ideally days later) where it could spew objects with 0 stickyness (makes other objects unglue right?) then dissolve itself. oh and it would emit a version of itself set to like a 1 minuet timer quite a bit above itself, out of view of the camera. Seems like a pretty good idea.

2010-09-22 15:21:00 Author: nagrom_17 Posts: 120

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how about if you created a sackbot with a hidden logic chip inside that only reacted to certain material (that you omit from your level) when they finish your level they win the sack bot. the sackbot then goes crazy zooming about their level when they try it out and on contact with certain material, dissolves it, to the tune of the death star i will call this Virus the Trojanbot these viruses won't actually destroy the level entirely though because they are still there on the server ready to be played again if anyone does any of these, remember who had the idea of making a virus infamy!

2010-09-22 15:48:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910

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how about if you created a sackbot with a hidden logic chip inside that only reacted to certain material (that you omit from your level) when they finish your level they win the sack bot. the sackbot then goes crazy zooming about their level when they try it out and on contact with certain material, dissolves it. i will call this Virus the Trojanbot these viruses won't actually destroy the level entirely though because they are still there on the server ready to be played again if anyone does any of these, remember who had the idea of making a virus infamy! You don't even need to omit that material from your level. Keep in mind that the sackbot/object the player uses in your level doesn't have to be the infected one, just use the normal one and give out the infected one @cliffbo In your op you mentioned someone making a post about a virus in another thread. It wouldn't happen to be this post would it? https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=36260-Our-lips-are-now-officially-unsealed-on-the-beta!&p=628839&viewfull=1#post628839

2010-09-22 15:54:00 Author: nagrom_17 Posts: 120

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just use the normal one and give out the infected one how about a sackbot that immediately grows 10 times bigger on exposure to someone elses level and automatically attacks sackboy and stamps on him. Trojanbots!

2010-09-22 15:57:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910

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This thread is hilarious!! But those malicious objects WILL happen!! I love Napero's idea and sadly someone will do it. Beware co-op creators!!

2010-09-22 17:09:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901

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I think we need to come up with a way to quickly find any bad hidden logic in microchips from collected objects.

2010-09-22 17:17:00 Author: Fishrock123 Posts: 1578

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BUT WHY would you want to build a virus?! it's an crazy idea to me... or what's the reasoning behind it?

2010-09-22 17:21:00 Author: ninjaSpence21 Posts: 50

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how about if you created a sackbot with a hidden logic chip inside that only reacted to certain material (that you omit from your level) when they finish your level they win the sack bot. the sackbot then goes crazy zooming about their level when they try it out and on contact with certain material, dissolves it, to the tune of the death star i will call this Virus the Trojanbot these viruses won't actually destroy the level entirely though because they are still there on the server ready to be played again if anyone does any of these, remember who had the idea of making a virus infamy! That's genius! ...or at least it would be if it wasn't for the fact that pretty much anyone here would most likely rarely - never use community objects to build their level. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they deleted it on the spot since they could just use their own sackbots. XD I mean, unless it has some ultra-crazy extravagganza super costume to the extreme, and even like that, they would just save the costume and drop the objec, don't you think? @OP: Dude, I know they said you can build anything in LBP2, but...come on! Arent you taking it a tad to literaly m8?

2010-09-22 17:28:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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*note to self* Don't use microchips or Sackbots from cliffbo, the OP, and probably RockSauron just to be sure Having said that, I'm getting great ideas for online create

2010-09-22 17:50:00 Author: kirbyman62 Posts: 1893

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i won't be using Cliffbo Trojanbots and Sackworms, here we come!

2010-09-22 17:57:00 Author: GribbleGrunger Posts: 3910

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*note to self* Don't use microchips or Sackbots from cliffbo, the OP, and probably RockSauron just to be sure Having said that, I'm getting great ideas for online create Cliffbo IS OP. dun Dun DUN! Seems more like he was trying to find ways to make viruses now. O_o

2010-09-22 18:03:00 Author: Silverleon Posts: 6707

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I think we need to come up with a way to quickly find any bad hidden logic in microchips from collected objects. Like actually looking at the logic yourself? I don't think you can hide your logic in objects you give away...

2010-09-22 20:10:00 Author: crazymario Posts: 657

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Wo wo wo wo WOAH! remember PSDEATH666? he tried to wreck everyones PS3 once, well i think so....(stupid spam mail...) but i think SONY got him or her but i dont believe this(even tho there is a psn for PSDEATH666) :RAWR!:

2010-09-22 20:50:00 Author: LittleBigDragon Posts: 83

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if I had the beta then your levels would not be safe from my army of The amazing; doctoroptagonapus-bots! for only 9 easy payments of $12.99 you will get the following features: Lazor firing attributes The ability to destroy intire levels with ease a simple, place and extermanate mechanisim to make people creating with you hate you forever the ability to spawn even more doctoroptagonapus-bots after every lazor strike the bots will do a dance can some one create this for me, plz ill give you no dollars!

2010-09-23 10:32:00 Author: huntedstorm Posts: 488

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