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weirdest glitch ive seen + boss logic issue

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PLEASE PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH LOGIC. My patience with LBP's buggyness has almost drained my sanity.

For 3 days now I have been extremely frustrated with trying to get this boss working in one of my levels I'm working on. Then today I had the main phase track, phase 2 track, and beam tracks all working with the exception of the correct timing. I have been frustrated beyond words. So after solving that I left level earlier after saving. I then backed up the level.

But then just a half hour ago I returned to level to continue where I left off and I unpaused to see it play out again and oddly phase 1 with the boss firing plasma started before the boss even lowered into place, which would be impossible because the boss has a key that activates the switch that activates the emitted key that activates the main phase track piston, and on that piston is the key that will start phase 1 as it moves along track. So I checked the wires on the sensor switch that activates the boss and the magnetic switch. And this is where I noticed the most bizarre glitch I have ever encountered in LBP. I mean I was shocked. The wires literally rewired/unwired themselves.

Before I left level earlier the sensor switch was wired to an emitter that emits the perma key to lower boss into place, at which point the key on boss activates the magnetic switch that activates the emitter that emits the key that activates the switch that activates the main phase track which alternates between the boss's 2 phases. Well after returninng to level this bizzare glitch was that the magnetic switch that activates emitter for main track switch was no longer wired to anything, and in its place the sensor switch was now also wired to the emitter the magnetic switch was previously wired to.

I just couldn't believe it. Now I know someone may say maybe I rewired things and dont remember, but I assure you I hadn't because last thing I did before leaving level was unpausing and undoing taking notes on what I would do when I returned and it all worked fine. But even though I fixed the auto-rewiring back to what they were originally wired to, the piston for main phase now stops halfway through phase 1, which is something else it didn't do before I left and returned.

So now I don't know what to do. The logic for the boss is so complex that I can't really explain it all. But I've almost given up all hope on getting this boss working. I am no beginner at logic and have done complex logic before even working with gates plenty, but I'm no expert at logic like some are here. I am asking for anyone good with logic to please help me! I don't believe I have done anything wrong as the probs seem to be LBP buggyness, but maybe my logic is so messy that its causing fixed logic to magically become broken upon leaving and re-entering level. Below is how the boss works. I would even add you if you wanted to schedule time frame to stop by and check it out, and I wouldn't even care if you removed me after since it was just to help in first place. I'm desperate enough at this point where I'd almost pay someone to help, lol.

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The boss has 2 phases it alternates between.

It's starting phase is a simple to set-up phase where it fires plasma.

Then when the key on piston leaves range of phase 1 switch and enters range of phase 2 switch the plasma stops firing then an arm on each side of 'battle area lowers. One arm has a key that activates emitter that emits another track for phase 2. This phase 2 track activates the beams fired in phase 2. The right arm charges a top level beam and fires it horizontal. Then the left arm charges a lower level beam that fires horizontal. Then the right again, then left again before arms rise, which means I would have to get timing right so the phase 2 track emitted in phase 2's emitted lifetime expires as main phase track leaves range of phase 2 back to phase 1.

Oh and since the beams charge, the phase 2 track emits beam tracks for each beam fire.

That's the basis. But it would still be impossible to provide help unless you saw the setup and how it works in the first place.
2010-09-16 09:04:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393


I will send a friend request so I can try and help you


I don't have rtm223 skills but I think I know what's wrong.




Ps I will be able to play on Sunday.
2010-09-16 23:25:00

Author:
deschuttes2
Posts: 157


Thank you!! ^^

Sunday is good. I'm on LBP a lot. Creating extreme platformers is a passion, so I'm in create a minimum of 6 hours each day, so I think I'd be hard to miss. Anytime on your schedule is good when I'm on.

I also accepted someone elses help that left me profile message. I don't want to seem rude from one to another. So if one helped before other like he might be able to help between now and Sunday I would inform you. Is that ok? Before Sunday if there's still problem I could PM you my PSN. It'll be my english PSN. So it wouldn't be Hana_Kami account which is my JPN account. I keep the 2 seperate and dont want certain people to know one is the other which is why I would PM you the english account then.

I mean if you're fine with me accepting the other person's help also, which they might before Sunday comes.

Like I told him, if you were able to help solve problem I would give special thanks in level description for boss logic help.
2010-09-17 11:41:00

Author:
Hana_Kami
Posts: 393


Hey Hana, I can send you an invite tonight and check your problem out

Oh i see theres a huge time difference So when its tonight for me its 4 in the morning for you and i don't think you want to get up then..
2010-09-17 17:23:00

Author:
TjoxYorro
Posts: 220


It's fine if some one else helps you too.2010-09-17 20:59:00

Author:
deschuttes2
Posts: 157


If need be you can attempt to add me. I might be able to help (albeit I'not the fastest at doing this stuff but when I do do it, I can do it well.)

PSN is Fishrock123. ...

If all else fails, I will attempt to get comphermc or rtm in. (like, I mean, if it really fails.)
2010-09-17 21:26:00

Author:
Fishrock123
Posts: 1578


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