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More Hazards

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I would like to see more hazards in LBP2. Sackboy only has a few ways to die - and for a game with so many levels they get old quick.
- Spiked
- Squished (basically the same as spiked but with a different sound)
- Electrocuted
- Gassed
- Burnt (same animation & sound when exploded)
- Plasma'd
- Drowned (takes 30s though)

Games like Crash Bandicoot have many more ways to die in comedic fashion, and that's just 1 game with 35 levels, not 3,000,000. So I'd like to see Sackboy...

- Frozen
- Fall (falls off the bottom of the screen after hanging in midair scrambling, rather than dying in poison gas at the bottom)
- Dissolve
- Turn to dust
- Disintigrate (into little polygons upwards in slow-mo)
- Warp (looks like he's been telported, only he dies)
- Drop dead (fall straight down on his face or back)
- Drift away (falls dead and his spirit floats upwards before fading)
- Crash and slide (hits into a wall and slides slowly down it)
- Spin/stumble and drop (spins round in a daze before dropping dead)
- Instant drown
- Explode (maybe leave just his eyes left?)
- Pop (like popit pop, but customizable as a hazard - good for outer space)
- Shrink (down to nothing)
- Squished & flattened (without popping out of the scenery, sackboy becomes 1mm thick then flutters down like a piece of paper)

So I've given my suggestions, which do you want most in LBP2?
2010-09-13 22:44:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388


id like to see sackboy nommed.2010-09-13 22:47:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


your trying to make a looney toons level?
I prefer to have swords ,have their slap ability slice the arms of other sack people & slice their arm off & have the cotton pop out & faint.!
2010-09-13 22:50:00

Author:
jiamind
Posts: 19


your trying to make a looney toons level?
I prefer to have swords ,have their slap ability slice the arms of other sack people & slice their arm off & have the cotton pop out & faint.!

Yeah well I think a fall hazard is very important. In 90% of LBP1 levels you can die by falling off something. But in LBP1, you have to hit some poison gas, or spikes etc. in order to actually die. When if you look at most actual platforming games - Crash Bandicoot, Rayman, Spyro the Dragon, Ratchet and Clank etc. you always die by JUST falling when you miss a jump. That's why it should be in LBP.
2010-09-13 22:56:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388


Ooooh Ooooh....what if sackboy got bit by a vampire. Depending on the severity of the bite, he can either turn into a vampire or just die. And then if he is a vampire then someone could put a stake through his heart to kill him...on second thought no. 2010-09-13 22:58:00

Author:
TheCountessZ
Posts: 537


Ooooh Ooooh....what if sackboy got bit by a vampire. Depending on the severity of the bite, he can either turn into a vampire or just die. And then if he is a vampire then someone could put a stake through his heart to kill him...on second thought no.

how about a zombie bitten sackboy which runs around aimlessly till he dies. (after he is bitten by other zombie)
2010-09-13 23:00:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Ooooh Ooooh....what if sackboy got bit by a vampire. Depending on the severity of the bite, he can either turn into a vampire or just die. And then if he is a vampire then someone could put a stake through his heart to kill him...on second thought no.
That look like something out of a "Metal Slug" game.

how about a zombie bitten sackboy which runs around aimlessly till he dies. (after he is bitten by other zombie)
That IS from Metal Slug. Now all we need is a zombie vomit attack.
2010-09-13 23:00:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


I 100% honestly Love all your hazard ideas here,
and Wish MM would put them in, even though most likely they won't add anything new,
and even if they did we'd be lucky to get just 1~ (o_<) *mew
2010-09-13 23:05:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


yer i want a space hazard where u head explodes and drift away and a power up which is a space suit so you can go out there would be cool but you can prob do this with sackbots that change your cloths to the space suit and maybe have him do the demitt animation of popping if there is one that does it 2010-09-13 23:22:00

Author:
artise
Posts: 353


Love all those ideas in the OP.
I would like a hazard that simply acts like spikes. Then instead of lame gas, sackboy would get squashed from a high fall.
2010-09-13 23:26:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


Yeah, brilliant idea. Would help LBP2 feel more like a new game, rather than a bunch of expansions.
(Even though they are obviously fantastic expansions.)
2010-09-14 01:37:00

Author:
snarkwise
Posts: 53


Drift Away was my favorite one2010-09-14 01:49:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


Quick sand which would be a hazardous material that would slow you down, cause you to sink and take a few presses of x to jump to the surface again and if you sank to much you would die seeing bubbles come out of where you sank.2010-09-14 03:25:00

Author:
SilentAmmo
Posts: 5


I love the Drop Dead one! 2010-09-14 05:23:00

Author:
GreyMRP
Posts: 588


BAD NEWS: They have patched the plasma danger glitch in LBP2

GOOD NEWS: THEY'VE MADE IT INTO A LETHAL TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
2010-09-14 07:40:00

Author:
sackruler905
Posts: 103


your trying to make a looney toons level?
I prefer to have swords ,have their slap ability slice the arms of other sack people & slice their arm off & have the cotton pop out & faint.!

What is wrong with you?! XD
Do you hate sackboy or something?

2010-09-14 07:59:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


Some of them could be simulated with Sackbots and Destruction Switches, as far as I've understood

Would love the rest of the bunch too
2010-09-14 15:36:00

Author:
Unknown User


BAD NEWS: They have patched the plasma danger glitch in LBP2

GOOD NEWS: THEY'VE MADE IT INTO A LETHAL TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hope your source isn't what i THINK it is
2010-09-14 15:44:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


how about invisible spikes? you can get those :S2010-09-14 16:29:00

Author:
flamingemu
Posts: 1872


Bahaha I'd love the Crash and Slide death... all of them are good, but I love that one in particular. The "fall over and die" one could be related to a health setting you could choose... for ice, you could have a feature where they either die by it (say the ice shatters along with the sackperson) OR you'd have to rotate the analog stick to break free. It'd make a good obstacle in races/timed games.

I have another suggestion: Mario style death! (you all know what I'm talking about)
2010-09-14 17:44:00

Author:
EliminatorZigma
Posts: 173


i want Sackboy to slip on a banana skin and fall to his death!2010-09-14 17:48:00

Author:
GribbleGrunger
Posts: 3910


Some of them could be simulated with Sackbots and Destruction Switches, as far as I've understood

Would love the rest of the bunch too

The only trouble is that sackbots can only perform actions that sackboy can (to my knowledge). So aside from the default behaviours (zombie, robot etc.) you can't really make the sackbots do anything out of the ordinary like fall over (or climb a ladder...) If you could tweak a sackbot's animation (rather than just record), frame-by-frame, limb-by-limb, some of these would be easier to do. But I'd still like specific hazards.
2010-09-14 19:18:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388


there was ice in lbp1 but they took it out for some reason when ur frozen u shake the sis axis and u break free, it looked cool aswell. hope they put it back in 2010-09-14 23:51:00

Author:
artise
Posts: 353


BAD NEWS: They have patched the plasma danger glitch in LBP2

GOOD NEWS: THEY'VE MADE IT INTO A LETHAL TOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont see how that is relevent tho the thread but cool, and i think that if any new ones are added it should be ice because we never got that in LBP 1 due to issues and complications
2010-09-15 00:57:00

Author:
Xero Space
Posts: 249


I wish there were ragdoll physics when you died.
Like if you were hit by a saw you would be sawed in half and then flown across the room.
2010-09-15 01:31:00

Author:
Sack-Jake
Posts: 1153


I would like to see sackboy's little arms and legs be chopped off and bits of cotton coming out, but MM probably wouldn't make that because its a kid friendly game...
It would also be cool if there was ice where if you stood on it too long you would freeze into a block of ice and you would have to shake the controller until you escape. There could be some kind of shattering glass animation if you didn't do it in time.
2010-09-17 22:09:00

Author:
Unknown User


There was the ice hazard in LBP1, and it worked pretty much the way you said, but it was removed >.> *Glares at Mm*2010-09-17 23:09:00

Author:
Super_Clone
Posts: 849


Yeah, Im sure it was removed because it was absolutely horrible. Apparently you had to vigorously shake the sixaxis to break free and if you did and landed back on the ice (which was probably the case as you couldn't move) you died. I can imagine it would be super annoying.

Im sure that I read somewhere that there's going to be a new laser hazard in LBP 2.
2010-09-17 23:33:00

Author:
theamilien
Posts: 485


Drop dead for the win. 2010-09-18 00:15:00

Author:
Jord-bord
Posts: 153


I'd like a hazard where sack boy is slapped by a frog tongue, or something like that, and he disintegrates, or something like that. 2010-09-18 03:58:00

Author:
X-FROGBOY-X
Posts: 1800


i would like a hazard where sackboy/girl can become a hazard, for example, sackboy/girl could turn into plasma or fire, and then attack enemyie, like sackbots.2010-09-18 05:23:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


Yeah, brilliant idea. Would help LBP2 feel more like a new game, rather than a bunch of expansions.
(Even though they are obviously fantastic expansions.)

I think LBP 2 is far away from expansions. It has 10 times more stuff than in LBP1 so I wouldn't even accidently call it an expansion.
2010-09-18 06:18:00

Author:
FreeAim
Posts: 2462


i would like a hazard where sackboy/girl can become a hazard, for example, sackboy/girl could turn into plasma or fire, and then attack enemyie, like sackbots.

Sackbot replicating it's controller. Make it a hazard. Make other Sackbots vulnerable for that hazard. Voila.
2010-09-18 17:27:00

Author:
Unknown User


Yeah, Im sure it was removed because it was absolutely horrible. Apparently you had to vigorously shake the sixaxis to break free and if you did and landed back on the ice (which was probably the case as you couldn't move) you died. I can imagine it would be super annoying.

Im sure that I read somewhere that there's going to be a new laser hazard in LBP 2.

I was thinking more along the lines of frozen and you can't break free. You just die if you stand on the ice. It could be made a bit different by having it so if you stand on the ice for too long you freeze and die, BUT I think it would be a lot more flexible if you just froze and shattered. That way you could code in things like standing on the ice for too long, with a sackboy collision switch and a hazard trigger.
2010-09-18 17:56:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388


Why not just add acid and Ice/wind elements, the acid can be put into a pool or the creators area, the ice would be similar to the water in LBP, but it's tweakable, like expanding it to 2-3 mins to make it to the end of a level, before your sackperson freezes over. Now bottomless pits, are not really hard to make, just put gas down there, LOL, but I think that'll be funny to see, but the sackperson is built like the commando pro users in COD, LOL, no failling damage. LOL2010-09-19 17:13:00

Author:
ninjaSpence21
Posts: 50


Can sack bots die, like with fire or plasma, and can a bot drown?2010-09-19 23:10:00

Author:
Coro
Posts: 7


yeah man crash bandicoot is a GREAT example.i love that game....infact i know this is the wrong forum but i was thinking about remaking spyro,crash,rayman,etc because im reaally sick of mario remakes...you guys should help....DO IT! but i think that sackboy getting smashed and walking as a pancake for a secs a cool idea.2010-09-19 23:32:00

Author:
Unknown User


i dont see why lbp cant have swords they already have phisics and in a game almost unheard of (fairy tale fights) they have dynamic cuting so it can't be that hard2010-09-20 20:58:00

Author:
endgame
Posts: 70


i agree we need a melee weapon and a way to customize the melee weapon...maybe a melee powerup to make use of you hand item (if nothing equipped or gloves it could be punching and such...and when its a weapon it could be swung around and such)2010-09-20 22:04:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


i agree we need a melee weapon and a way to customize the melee weapon...maybe a melee powerup to make use of you hand item (if nothing equipped or gloves it could be punching and such...and when its a weapon it could be swung around and such)

why don't they upgrade the powergloves so that it would work like a paintinator that would solve that right then and there you pick something up then you move it ppl could make guns swords shields you see?
2010-09-22 20:51:00

Author:
endgame
Posts: 70


why don't they upgrade the powergloves so that it would work like a paintinator that would solve that right then and there you pick something up then you move it ppl could make guns swords shields you see?

already done with sackbots and logics.
2010-09-22 23:55:00

Author:
mattbru77
Posts: 143


@mattbru77

Yeah? but so what? :/

Sure we can record animations on to sackbots and use some logic to make fake melee power-ups,
but thats like saying (Who needs New power-ups? we can just use sackbots and logic for everthing)

Sure we can use that stuff for tons of things, even hand to hand combat,
but its just not the same as getting real power-ups,
seems like anymore everyones's way to reply to someone is to use LBP2 stuff to fake it,
Hoho... (i even say it my self when it comes to most ideas)
but its not the answer to everything~ :/ *mew
2010-09-23 18:36:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


I'd love to see sackboy making a bloody mess when he dies...

:RAWR!:
2010-09-23 19:00:00

Author:
LittleBigDragon
Posts: 83


I'd love to see sackboy making a bloody mess when he dies...

:RAWR!:

Guess youll be up for disappointment, sackboy has cotton inside of him, no blood :/
2010-09-23 21:30:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


I'd love to see sackboy making a bloody mess when he dies...

:RAWR!:
1. You have a sick mind
2. Its a E rated game


Guess youll be up for disappointment, sackboy has cotton inside of him, no blood :/
PWND! lol
2010-09-24 09:59:00

Author:
YEAH_NAH
Posts: 775


I was thinking of maybe a chemical hazard, where if you fall in, you turn to bones...even though sackboy is a stitched up cloth plush toy. XD
Just an idea. What do you think?
2010-09-24 22:36:00

Author:
theonlybub
Posts: 690


Personally, I think half these ideas aren't even hazards. Hazard = Something that kills you. Most of these = Death animation. I understand some, like quicksand and ice, but I'm not seeing how falling on your face when you die is a hazard. That's post-death animations. I don't like being a downer, I just thought I'd point this out.
Some of these are really good ideas though Even some of the animations. But the thread is titled "More Hazards." :o
2010-09-24 22:48:00

Author:
Narwhal
Posts: 111


Personally, I think half these ideas aren't even hazards. Hazard = Something that kills you. Most of these = Death animation. I understand some, like quicksand and ice, but I'm not seeing how falling on your face when you die is a hazard. That's post-death animations. I don't like being a downer, I just thought I'd point this out.
Some of these are really good ideas though Even some of the animations. But the thread is titled "More Hazards." :o

I'm pretty sure your trying to not understand, Yohooho~
or at least i got the idea hes talking about hazards that would end up having them animations,
not just random deaths~ Tho that in it self would be cool if we could use custom animations
as we can't make animations like them as it is, *mew
2010-09-25 07:24:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


yaaaay! kill sackboy! drown him! beat him! slice him! choke him! bomb him! slap him! smash him! electricute him!

seriously... this is sick...
2010-09-30 18:10:00

Author:
>er.
Posts: 785


Maybe Mm could make an object like the Destroyer object which would house some more death animations. Of course, it would be only Sackbot compatible.
Or perhaps you could set it to kill the player who activated it, but Sackbot usage would be 100% sure.
2010-10-01 17:59:00

Author:
Unknown User


In one video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-ACjm5MJuE

I saw that you can use rotators with sackbots to make them lie down... this is very interesting.

Has anyone tried to recreate some of my ideas in LBP2 with sackbots? It would be interesting to see what is possible.
2010-10-04 22:47:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388


wow so jump has made QUICK TIME EVENTS lol awesome2010-10-05 01:22:00

Author:
Shadowcrazy
Posts: 3365


Awesome ideas.

That cut scene level is quite brilliant, played it a few times to see the different out comes.

Someone asked here can the sackbot die from hazards? Yes, same animation for all the hazards, but in the beta we can't make the bots contact water. Water + sackbots = electrocution.

MM could add some more destroy effects (and animations) that would be for sackbots only.
2010-10-05 11:27:00

Author:
Unknown User


I had a hazard idea... how about "sharp", which makes the object sharp, like the sword, shuriken, or sawblade objects... and the death animation would be like getting spiked. I don't know how that would work, though... maybe a tweaker for area of sharpness? And maybe that part could thin out, but still be in a walk-able layer.

Or maybe that just wouldn't work
2010-10-06 16:03:00

Author:
EliminatorZigma
Posts: 173


I had a hazard idea... how about "sharp", which makes the object sharp, like the sword, shuriken, or sawblade objects... and the death animation would be like getting spiked. I don't know how that would work, though... maybe a tweaker for area of sharpness? And maybe that part could thin out, but still be in a walk-able layer.

Or maybe that just wouldn't work

I don't like the current "spiked" animation, nor the current "squished" animation. Though it may be hard to think of one that looks better that still keeps the age rating, Crash Bandicoot managed it alright.
2010-10-07 16:23:00

Author:
thor
Posts: 388


lol:star:<32010-10-08 21:40:00

Author:
Benoas
Posts: 32


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