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Sackbot Questions.
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I have a few sackbot questions for you guys. Can sackbots change into the costume the player is wearing at the start of the level? Can sackbots grab switches/push buttons/trigger sensor switches? How do sackbots die? Can sackbots be animated to lets say, jump over a pit and swing from a rope? Can the sackbot animater and the sequencer be used together? Thanks for answers if you guys have any! | 2010-09-07 13:30:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
Can sackbots change into the costume the player is wearing at the start of the level? Maybe, I remember a gameplay video where the players would control sackbots like them. Can sackbots grab switches/push buttons/trigger sensor switches? Probably. How do sackbots die? I think it depends on the settings, but are the same way the player dies. And maybe you can trigger their death(?) Can sackbots be animated to lets say, jump over a pit and swing from a rope? I think so, you can record your movement. Can the sackbot animater and the sequencer be used together? DERP! (idk) | 2010-09-07 13:57:00 Author: gdn001 ![]() Posts: 5891 |
I'd like to add a question if thats okay. I know we can change the size of a sackbot but my question is can we change the shape of a sackbot into, for example, a more human-like shape by changing the shape of body parts? | 2010-09-07 15:44:00 Author: shindol ![]() Posts: 78 |
I've also got a question about Sackbots: are Sackbots EPIC AWESOME WIN? tut gdn, you didn't have a Sackbot Question ![]() Isn't the grabbing ability tweakable? And I think there should be a tweak in Sensor Switches if they sense Sackbots or not. If they can't, we'll just have to use Magne Keys ![]() | 2010-09-07 17:08:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
Most of those things have been shown in videos from MM before, I think thats a reliable source ^^ So I guess sackbots can change to your custome, jump over things, switch layers, grab, and die by a tweakable animation. | 2010-09-07 17:16:00 Author: Kn0cked-0ut ![]() Posts: 562 |
Can sackbots change into the costume the player is wearing at the start of the level? Not sure but i remember Alex saying you can make it so that the player does not know there playing as a sackbot so it is possible. Can sackbots grab switches/push buttons/trigger sensor switches? I know they can grab switches and push buttons but i don't know about sensor switches. How do sackbots die? It depends on the settings you give it. for example, you can make it die from fire but not electricity. Can sackbots be animated to lets say, jump over a pit and swing from a rope? Yes, every movement you do in gameplay can be animated. Can the sackbot animater and the sequencer be used together? don't know I'd like to add a question if thats okay. I know we can change the size of a sackbot but my question is can we change the shape of a sackbot into, for example, a more human-like shape by changing the shape of body parts? You can change the size of there head but i am not sure about other body parts. | 2010-09-07 17:16:00 Author: Serpent541 ![]() Posts: 83 |
http://www.viddler.com/explore/oyungezer/videos/509/ This video holds it all. 1. Yes they can. Proof at the challenge stage of the video. 2. Yes they can. In the video at the puzzler challenge, they activate some sort of sensor. 3. Sackbots can die. But were not completely sure in which ways you can edit them to. 4. Yes. In the video he says near the start that you can do the acting of the sackbot in create mode, and tweak it whenever you like! 5. I'm not sure but I think so from the debut because of the disco dance thing, it was perfect sync with sleepyhead. | 2010-09-07 17:25:00 Author: sackruler905 ![]() Posts: 103 |
The one question i have about sackbots are. Is there a way to program sackbots (even if it requires crazy logic) to make them run along with you and start shooting targets with a creatinator, and actually be able to properly aim. What i mean is, sackbots can do whatever sackboy can do, however this only implies (as far as i know) in cutscenes and when you record actions. So is it possible for me to just run along with sackbots shooting targets outside of a cutscene / recorded action? | 2010-09-07 18:38:00 Author: Bluetoes1 ![]() Posts: 98 |
Oh yes, how could I forget? Can you use Sackbots with power ups and what are the restrictions? Can powered up Sackbots be animated? | 2010-09-07 22:48:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
you can use sackbots with power ups, as for restrictions its the same with us...so no double power ups and such...pretty much think of the sackbot as player 2 but now you can make player 2 do whatever you want without someone using him/her my question is...if there is a tweak option in the DCS to use a sackboy with your control scheme (obviously use the sackbot to work and move exactly like your sackboy) | 2010-09-08 00:09:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
you can use sackbots with power ups, as for restrictions its the same with us...so no double power ups and such...pretty much think of the sackbot as player 2 but now you can make player 2 do whatever you want without someone using him/her my question is...if there is a tweak option in the DCS to use a sackboy with your control scheme (obviously use the sackbot to work and move exactly like your sackboy) I can answer that! Yes. As shown in the video the puzzler was used with a sackbot. | 2010-09-08 00:27:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
thats good now we can use sackbots to enter gas chambers and let you survive...so now we can use HAZARDS to make awesome visuals...very cool....i wonder if sackbots can also breath underwater without the powerup...would be convenient | 2010-09-08 00:35:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
you can use sackbots with power ups, as for restrictions its the same with us...so no double power ups and such...pretty much think of the sackbot as player 2 but now you can make player 2 do whatever you want without someone using him/her my question is...if there is a tweak option in the DCS to use a sackboy with your control scheme (obviously use the sackbot to work and move exactly like your sackboy) I don't really see the point of making a Sackbot replicationg your moves when you could wire a Controllinator to control 2 Sackbots. Looks like Mm made it that way too ![]() | 2010-09-08 12:56:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
Can you make player 1 and player 2 spawn into 2 different sackbots? | 2010-09-08 13:51:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
Can sackbots change into the costume the player is wearing at the start of the level? Lol, I wondered about just the same thing ![]() | 2010-09-08 15:48:00 Author: moonwire ![]() Posts: 1627 |
What I want to know is how sackbot behaviours (eg patrol, act, follow, idle) can be switched between. In the Pipe Dreams level, we see examples of sackbots sitting idle, then following, then taking a predetermined route through the pipes, then following again ... | 2010-09-08 18:41:00 Author: Holguin86 ![]() Posts: 875 |
As I've understood, they cycle through them via switches. No idea how they do it though... the secret might be in the circuitboard ![]() | 2010-09-08 18:46:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
What I want to know is how sackbot behaviours (eg patrol, act, follow, idle) can be switched between. In the Pipe Dreams level, we see examples of sackbots sitting idle, then following, then taking a predetermined route through the pipes, then following again ... Yes sackbots can! I read an interview with Alex and Mark and they said youcan programme a sackbot on a patrol routine and when you come within there radius they can become electrified and start chasing you | 2010-09-08 21:12:00 Author: Jordanmcc ![]() Posts: 94 |
Did anyone else notice my typo? I mean, what's a Scak Bot? | 2010-09-08 23:47:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
Did anyone else notice my typo? I mean, what's a Scak Bot? i think we were just being polite and didnt want to point it out...well let me just speak for myself there lol | 2010-09-09 04:35:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
I have a few sackbot questions for you guys. Can sackbots change into the costume the player is wearing at the start of the level? Yes, you can set them to mimic the player's appereance Can sackbots grab switches/push buttons/trigger sensor switches? Yes How do sackbots die? Like regular Sackpeople Can sackbots be animated to lets say, jump over a pit and swing from a rope? Yes, it is possible Can the sackbot animater and the sequencer be used together? [b] Yes Thanks for answers if you guys have any! I'd like to add a question if thats okay. I know we can change the size of a sackbot but my question is can we change the shape of a sackbot into, for example, a more human-like shape by changing the shape of body parts? No, you can give the body parts different proportions (make them bigger/ tinier, big heads and small bodies, etc.) but not alter the shape itself. Oh yes, how could I forget? Can you use Sackbots with power ups and what are the restrictions? Can powered up Sackbots be animated? Sackbots can use all power-ups but Grappling hook. And yes they can. Feel free to correct me on anything if I'm wrong. | 2010-09-09 05:17:00 Author: Silverleon ![]() Posts: 6707 |
Can you make player 1 and player 2 spawn into 2 different sackbots? Well, you CAN set Checkpoints to be private for players... so yes, in a way. Do Controllinators have a built-in checkpoint? ![]() | 2010-09-09 11:17:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
Do Controllinators have a built-in checkpoint? ![]() No but you can auto-enter controlinators. | 2010-09-09 12:12:00 Author: rtm223 ![]() Posts: 6497 |
No, you can give the body parts different proportions (make them bigger/ tinier, big heads and small bodies, etc.) but not alter the shape itself. That sounds cool, so you could have a normal Sackbot and then have a giant arm on him? | 2010-09-09 12:26:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
No but you can auto-enter controlinators. So the way you'd have to do it is to put a Checkpoint hanging above a Sackbot? Not Good, Mm. I'd like to add a question if thats okay. I know we can change the size of a sackbot but my question is can we change the shape of a sackbot into, for example, a more human-like shape by changing the shape of body parts? As I've understood, you only have a yes/no option on the subject of Big Heads. | 2010-09-09 17:37:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
So the way you'd have to do it is to put a Checkpoint hanging above a Sackbot? OR you can attach a sensor switch on the DCS and hook it up to the checkpoint so as soon as you spawn its in the DCS At least thats how my limited knowledge of logic says but im not in front of LBP to test this out with other stuff | 2010-09-09 21:43:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
Well, you CAN set Checkpoints to be private for players... so yes, in a way. Do Controllinators have a built-in checkpoint? ![]() I believe you can only put them so players can spawn from differnt CPs, but not specifically, (players will spawn from diferent CPs, 4 people can spawn @ 4 different CPs at once) but not set specific checpoints for specific players. (Not specific P1, P2, P3, P4. CP) Or something like that. | 2010-09-09 22:24:00 Author: Silverleon ![]() Posts: 6707 |
So the way you'd have to do it is to put a Checkpoint hanging above a Sackbot? Not Good, Mm. No, you place the camera on the sackbot, and spawn sackboy somewhere out of the way where he auto-activates a controlinator. The controlinator doesn't have to be on the sackbot. | 2010-09-09 23:16:00 Author: thor ![]() Posts: 388 |
Okay I hope no one does that to **** people off... | 2010-09-10 01:10:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
I believe you can only put them so players can spawn from differnt CPs, but not specifically, (players will spawn from diferent CPs, 4 people can spawn @ 4 different CPs at once) but not set specific checpoints for specific players. (Not specific P1, P2, P3, P4. CP) Or something like that. Remember that Mm-made minigame where contestants shoot rockets from Creatinators at each other in low gravity? To me it seems that the players spawn from different checkpoints even in the very beginning... | 2010-09-10 12:55:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
Remember that Mm-made minigame where contestants shoot rockets from Creatinators at each other in low gravity? To me it seems that the players spawn from different checkpoints even in the very beginning... Same with that X and O minigame... correct? | 2010-09-10 13:34:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
Remember that Mm-made minigame where contestants shoot rockets from Creatinators at each other in low gravity? To me it seems that the players spawn from different checkpoints even in the very beginning... Same with that X and O minigame... correct? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH_yUIYQAVI Keep track of the 1st sackperson to die, you'll notice the checkpints are all activated and the second time the same sackperson dies he/ she spawns at a different checkpoint that previously did. Read well what I said, they can all spawn from different CPs simultaneously, but the CPs aren't correspondant to any of the players specifically. @Emo: Like shown in the other video, they can all spwn at once, but no checkpoint is "corresponding" to a specific player apparently, At least there ar no vids that support that theory as far as I'm aware. | 2010-09-10 15:25:00 Author: Silverleon ![]() Posts: 6707 |
You know, I bet for that minigame they had the CPs connected to a randomizer or timer. | 2010-09-11 01:32:00 Author: Unknown User ![]() |
Just in case you want to know, sackbots cant swim ![]() EDIT: I read this somewhere else. I'm not in the Beta, nor are my friends. I can call the site i read this on proffessional so this is not ''leaked'' | 2010-09-11 16:12:00 Author: TjoxYorro ![]() Posts: 220 |
Just in case you want to know, sackbots cant swim ![]() i'm hoping the source of your information isn't what i think it is | 2010-09-11 16:17:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
I want sackbots to swim. | 2010-09-11 20:12:00 Author: Emogotsaone ![]() Posts: 1030 |
Im wondering, can they walk IN water and never drown? Because if so then i wouldnt mind one bit | 2010-09-11 20:23:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
That could be.. I don't know for sure ive been searching for the topic all evening. But assuming that sackbots are robots with electronica and all, it would make perfect sense that they cant go in water. | 2010-09-11 20:39:00 Author: TjoxYorro ![]() Posts: 220 |
im hoping they can sink in water and walk around in it too because that could make for some good gameplay effects | 2010-09-11 23:56:00 Author: Shadowcrazy ![]() Posts: 3365 |
im hoping they can sink in water and walk around in it too because that could make for some good gameplay effects![]() ![]() | 2010-10-27 08:01:00 Author: darkknight2010 ![]() Posts: 69 |
It's true. Sackbots + Water = electrical shock, and Sackbots die. I've tested, and they can survive in a tiny bit of water - say up to their toes (if they had toes that is), but it's a right pain. So it looks like at the moment - sackbots die in water. Straight away. | 2010-10-27 14:57:00 Author: standby250 ![]() Posts: 1113 |
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