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OMGZ! Punisher Had a Gun!

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Noticed by Joeli (http://forums.littlebigworkshop.com/t5/General-Discussion/OMG-the-Punisher-had-a-Gun/td-p/290462)


Checkout this pic I found on marvel.com. Apparently the Punisher originally had "a toy gun", but for some reason they took it out before the release
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/content/resized/712320e40de83112eb8a77f2d9f267e3.jpg

http://marvel.com/images/804314.LittleBigPlanet_Costume_Pack_4_poster/from/content.videogame.107
2010-08-18 14:20:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


NUUUUUUUUUUUUU

/sadface
2010-08-18 14:24:00

Author:
Jonaolst
Posts: 935


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Tress85/fuuuuu.png

:SH:
2010-08-18 14:28:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769


NUUUUUUUUUUUUU

/sadface

Quote the Hulk all you like!
2010-08-18 14:30:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


Yeah, what StealthyHawaiian said.
Dang nabbit!! >=(
2010-08-18 14:45:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


"Omg oh noes dis away from da cuteness of lbp dis are bad!"

No, you are wrong.
2010-08-18 15:21:00

Author:
Jrange378
Posts: 573


They've always said "No Guns" for LBP to keep it family friendly and as far away from every other game as possible.
Of course they made a concession with the MGS pack - & that's why that fires harmless paint rather than lethal bullets.

A toy gun would have been nice for so many costumes... but *shrug* oh well.
2010-08-18 15:44:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


As macnme said, Im sure they had to remove because of ESRB difficulties. Tis a shame, as Im sure many players would love to have that as a costume peice.

I guess we still have the car parts, right?
2010-08-18 20:53:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v429/Tress85/fuuuuu.png

:SH:

^^What he said^^
>
2010-08-18 20:59:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


So no one would've noticed and no one would be mad(der?) If you hadn't posted this...

You know, sometimes announcements are better off not told m8.

2010-08-18 21:00:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


to keep it family friendly

Why can we burn, electrocute, and tear-gas Sackboy then?

:SH:
2010-08-18 21:06:00

Author:
ThePineapplizer
Posts: 769


Sackboy's... a doll? I dunno.

Personally I can survive without the gun. Don't know about everyone else.
2010-08-18 21:11:00

Author:
Frinklebumper
Posts: 941


another misleading advertisement by MM.



(make sure it meets PEGI regs before advertising it )
2010-08-18 21:13:00

Author:
Pattington_Bear
Posts: 777


Remember kids:

Guns are bad but pirate cutlasses are a-OK!
2010-08-18 22:52:00

Author:
trip090
Posts: 1562


So no one would've noticed and no one would be mad(der?) If you hadn't posted this...

You know, sometimes announcements are better off not told m8.



If you want to be a mindless zombie and not be aware of real issues.

Well, I just think, for starters, the government has things they can't tell us, and truthishly, we should just accept that.
2010-08-18 23:23:00

Author:
midnight_heist
Posts: 2513


If you want to be a mindless zombie and not be aware of real issues.

lol, I'm just saying it would make no difference to anyone if you knew this or not. XD
2010-08-18 23:27:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


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http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/043/258/original/imnothappyplz.png?1268620741
2010-08-18 23:33:00

Author:
JspOt
Posts: 3607


I just imagined a sackperson holding that AK-47 gun and the paintinator at the same time...

GUNS AKIMBO LOLZ NOW WIF REAL GANS!!!1eleven
2010-08-18 23:38:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


So, just to clafiry for everyone....

Swords, Spears, Sai & Cutlasses are all ok... presumably because you have to garrote someone up close and personal with those weapons, rather than unfairly shoot them from a distance.

And you can burn, electorcute, gas, drown and explode your sackboy - because it's cute... but no shooting him ok?

And you can also dress him up as mass murderers from history like Genghis Khan

I hope that's clarified why we aren't allowed toy guns
2010-08-19 08:18:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


So, just to clafiry for everyone....

Swords, Spears, Sai & Cutlasses are all ok... Yeah, I'm pretty sure they sold thos in that place 'round the corner -_- presumably because you have to garrote someone up close and personal with those weapons, rather than unfairly shoot them from a distance.

And you can burn, electorcute, gas, drown and explode your sackboy Kids have acces to electrified/ burnt/ lethaly gassified surfaces, and exlosives all the time, for sure. (also, keep in ind everyone knows those are dangerous in real life - because it's cute... but no shooting him ok?

And you can also dress him up as mass murderers from history like Genghis Khan

I hope that's clarified why we aren't allowed toy guns

You have any idea how many kids have accidentally shot themselves?
Its not to laugh...

In words, guns have killed more people, specially YOUNG people this last decade than all the others combined, so yeah, still wondering why?

And yes I know, it may seem overdoing it not placing a plastic gun in the game, but they're trying to attract younger people to guns the least possible.

Yes, I agree, some costumes would;ve been better/ cooler with it, but do keep in mind the massive number of small children playing the game.
2010-08-19 08:40:00

Author:
Silverleon
Posts: 6707


And yes I know, it may seem overdoing it not placing a plastic gun in the game, but they're trying to attract younger people to guns the least possible.

I think not having access to guns, i.e. no gun in your home, would be a lot more effective.

On topic: Meh. Maybe they scrapped the gun because it looked ridiculous when he was holding a paininator.
2010-08-19 09:52:00

Author:
Rogar
Posts: 2284


Media Molecule are (or were) a British company... we do not have the same gun control issues as Gun Crazy America.

And how many children were killed last year by Toy guns?

Precicely Zero.

Now look at the games market and tally up the amount of shooters released - or games that contain an element of shooting - why is it so taboo for MM to join in (the most crowded gaming genre)?

An easy way they could get around it - call it a water gun... problem solved.
It's the same trick they used with the Paintenator (and don't try and tell me *that* hasn't been used as a gun by the LBP community)
2010-08-19 10:01:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


The difference between an average shooter and LBP is that LBP is a game for 7+ people, where Im pretty sure most shooters are 18+ or atleast Teen rated.

I personally wouldnt want 7 year old children learning that guns and fun.

And I cant possibly imagine why people who are old enough to use guns would want a toy gun for LBP anyways. <,<....


P.S. Im pretty sure someone died last year from a toy gun. Some kid could easily swallow and choke on any kind of toy.
2010-08-19 10:13:00

Author:
jakpe
Posts: 84


The standard fair military shooter - sure that's 18+ ;
But an alien invasion game - doesn't Toy Stoy 3 even have laser guns from Buzz LightYear? so no, not all games that contain shooting elements are over 18 - alot are U rated.

And if you "cant possibly imagine why people who are old enough to use guns would want a toy gun for LBP anyways" then all I would say is - Imagine harder.
I can think of SO many costumes that would benefit from having a cool looking AK or Assualt Rifle or Pistol.
Now because it's LBP - they wouldn't be 'usable guns' (we'll let the community make their own - which they do in their 1000's) - they'd be cardboard cut-out guns... just like a child who uses a twig and pretends it's a gun.

We already pretend that the paintenator's a real gun - so I don't see the conflict with releasing a fake costume gun.


Edit: There is NO choking hazard from a 'virtual' toy gun --- loosen up
2010-08-19 10:23:00

Author:
Macnme
Posts: 1970


As macnme said, Im sure they had to remove because of ESRB difficulties. Tis a shame, as Im sure many players would love to have that as a costume peice.

I guess we still have the car parts, right?
Im pretty sure you can put a toy gun in a game, and it will remain E 7+,
2010-08-19 17:21:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


Im pretty sure you can put a toy gun in a game, and it will remain E 7+,

MM doesn't want to take the risk.
2010-08-19 17:48:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


MM doesn't want to take the risk.
Theres no risk, you just gotta run it through with ESRB to make sure, but i have played a E game with a toy gun i believe it was on Sega dreamcast :o
2010-08-19 18:13:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


Neon eyes for females, finally!2010-08-19 18:28:00

Author:
WilsonLBP
Posts: 128


Im pretty sure you can put a toy gun in a game, and it will remain E 7+,

Yeah, doesn't the toy story games have toy guns?
2010-08-19 18:43:00

Author:
Alec
Posts: 3871


Yeah, doesn't the toy story games have toy guns?

Toy Story 3: The Game does. You can see it in the trailer.
2010-08-19 18:51:00

Author:
Unknown User


Yes, I agree, some costumes would;ve been better/ cooler with it, but do keep in mind the massive number of small children playing the game.

Though a gun is more dangerous, a weapon is a weapon. We already have hazards where sackboy can get burned, electrocuted, disintegrated in gas, or vaporized in plasma. There are lethal knives, buzzsaws, and shuriken. Media Molecule has already put out references like the night club in that one meerkat story level. Numerous story characters are half-naked. The recurring pattern of violence and weapons in story mode include the moon ray gun in the Marvel levels.

Is this ok for an E-rated game? I personally think so, but that's another topic. I just think a plastic-looking gun costume part shouldn't be that much of a concern considering all the other things in LBP that ESRB watches out for. It even has the orange tip like a BB-gun has.


Maybe they scrapped the gun because it looked ridiculous when he was holding a paininator.

Venom's tongue is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen
2010-08-19 21:24:00

Author:
Incinerator22
Posts: 3251


Id be more okey with a gun that kills you than a gun that is harmless.

There's a difference between something that looks like a gun and something that looks like a Tube of Toothpaste shooting paint, If you get my drift.

The problem is that it looks like a gun and is harmless, because it teaches you that a gun is harmless, which is not the case. :o

It would be cool to have it in a game, but I can see the logic in why its not ^^
2010-08-19 21:48:00

Author:
jakpe
Posts: 84


Though a gun is more dangerous, a weapon is a weapon. We already have hazards where sackboy can get burned, electrocuted, disintegrated in gas, or vaporized in plasma. There are lethal knives, buzzsaws, and shuriken. Media Molecule has already put out references like the night club in that one meerkat story level. Numerous story characters are half-naked. The recurring pattern of violence and weapons in story mode include the moon ray gun in the Marvel levels.


This is true, I remember playing the story and wondering how they got away with meerkats going up and down on a pole XD
2010-08-19 22:28:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


This is true, I remember playing the story and wondering how they got away with meerkats going up and down on a pole XD

According to tvtropes.com, that's called "Getting Crap Past the Radar", and may not work everytime...
2010-08-19 22:47:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Well, in everyone's defence, Kids do know what guns a for. Are you telling me that you never had a plastic gun as a toy, even when you were very little?


This is true, I remember playing the story and wondering how they got away with meerkats going up and down on a pole XD


And what exactly was happening at the beginning of the level Boom town? Now tell me that's not suspicious!

2010-08-20 01:39:00

Author:
standby250
Posts: 1113


"Oooh, come're you lovely skeleton!! You're so hunky..."

... D:

/runs
2010-08-20 03:15:00

Author:
Richasackboy
Posts: 619


Why is this even a problem?
sure it be fun to have it but is it really needed?
you could... i don't know... just make a gun out
of decorations etc like a lot do :o *mew

don't know about you but some of the user hand made guns
are really awesome, a DLC is not much needed,
we'll live without it im sure.*mew
2010-08-22 01:32:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Why is this even a problem?
sure it be fun to have it but is it really needed?
you could... i don't know... just a make a gun out
of decorations etc like a lot do :o *mew

don't know about you but some of the user hand made guns
are really awesome, a DLC is not much needed,
we'll live without it im sure.*mew
You can make anything with LBP tools genereally, but having it as actual DLC is always 100x better
2010-08-22 01:54:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


You can make anything with LBP tools genereally, but having it as actual DLC is always 100x better

True , but also true is user made costumes can be
more cute sometimes,
like I really love the patch work doll look
and the idea that are sack people go around
and pick things up and put stuff on them selfs
for costumes, but however some stuff just looks
better professional, AKA Sonic costumes...
it all depends on the skills of the person
like sure i never used stuff like the horrible lion wig
for sonic but everyone else did, though i did have to put
up with white quills :/ but yeah sometimes the home
made look is better, other times its not, *mew

i my self would not mind a gun DLC, but its not going to
happen so no point getting upset about it
also i like the patch work doll made looking guns. *mew
2010-08-22 15:51:00

Author:
Lord-Dreamerz
Posts: 4261


Ohh now cmon! They could've atleast of added a orange cap on the end of the gun!2010-08-25 00:16:00

Author:
Pantyer2
Posts: 652


awwww,Thats an awesome costume peice !2010-08-25 00:41:00

Author:
SackBoy98
Posts: 588


That would of been a nice piece for sackbots in Lbp 2. but I guess it wasn't family friendly, so I guess they took it out.2010-08-25 16:20:00

Author:
DrPepper96
Posts: 65


That would of been a nice piece for sackbots in Lbp 2. but I guess it wasn't family friendly, so I guess they took it out.

I completely agree, I could definitely see a cutscene showing sackbots in the bank depositing money and workers saying "thank you" and then all of the sudden you see all these sackbots dressed up like mafia storming in wit that gun and then you hear sound effects and hopefully there's some animation to make the sackbots fall down like they're dead. I'd say they'd shoot bulets but of course it's a costume piece, not an enhancement and they've stuck to paint for bullets. You could use the creainator but the bullets should come from your gun, not your head so that's why I said just some shooting sound effects and then they fall down.
2010-08-25 16:45:00

Author:
Dragonvarsity
Posts: 5208


Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't the green goblin holding a pumpkin bomb?
Admittedly it is made up and looks harmless, but it is still just as referential to real life as a toy gun, especially with all of the hysteria surrounding bombs in the world.
Just my little bit of input
2010-08-25 17:11:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554


Yes, he is holding a pumpkin bomb ( well more of a grenade) but that is not any less violent than a gun. so I feel like they should of kept the gun. but u still got to think, it's a kids game. >2010-08-25 20:48:00

Author:
DrPepper96
Posts: 65


Yeah, but despite being more like grenades, their actual names are pumpkin bombs.
My point is that I can't see why a blatant toy gun is any worse than a pretend explosive or a pair of pretend Sai - they're all weapons in their own right.
2010-08-26 02:31:00

Author:
Fish94
Posts: 554


My point is that I can't see why a blatant toy gun is any worse than a pretend explosive or a pair of pretend Sai - they're all weapons in their own right. I totally agree, if The goblin can have a pumpkin bomb why can't the punished have a toy gun?>:|2010-08-26 04:07:00

Author:
DrPepper96
Posts: 65


Aww man!!!
That costume piece would look FREAKING cool!!!!
And the you graba paintnator
and you'll be unstopable hehe
2010-08-26 04:10:00

Author:
shadow3596
Posts: 2442


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