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Lately, theres been alot of speculation about middle eastern and some asian countries wishing to do use Nuclear Weapons wrongly, mainly Iran And North Korea are targeted as the countries that will most likely push the button. Al Queda is said to have possession of nuclear weapons and uranium sold by an economically failing Russia.Ive had many dreams concerning global thermonuclear war also. Living in America, i believe we may be one of the biggest targets on the hit list for Al Queda and Iran. North Korea i dont know. All i know is that we may have a few InterContinental Balistics missles coming for either L.A or new york, i am in the 2nd biggest city in the U.S so im keeping an eye out for any unusual Planes, and Listening for the State Of Emergency sirens. What do you think about nuclear threat?2010-08-15 23:18:00

Author:
Charlemagne
Posts: 513


It hopefully wont happen.
But why would russia sell nukes to Al Queda? I'm calling bs on that.
2010-08-15 23:23:00

Author:
Unknown User


Does it matter? If someone's going to nuke you there's little you can do about it really. Just get on with living and if you want to feel you're doing something to help avoid nuclear conflict then look into politics and decide who to vote for - although that sometimes guarantees nothing, alas. Join some humanitarian groups.. I don't know. What I do know is that there's no point living your life in fear of what might happen.2010-08-15 23:23:00

Author:
BabyDoll1970
Posts: 1567


Does it matter? If someone's going to nuke you there's little you can do about it really. Just get on with living and if you want to feel you're doing something to help avoid nuclear conflict then look into politics and decide who to vote for - although that sometimes guarantees nothing, alas. Join some humanitarian groups.. I don't know. What I do know is that there's no point living your life in fear or what might happen.

That's a good point. Besides, if there really was a global thermonuclear war it won't really matter who the target is. Nuclear fallout is a hassle, you know.
2010-08-15 23:27:00

Author:
microchirp
Posts: 412


Well, obviously they should give all their nukes to U.S. Because WE are the only country that deserves nukes. All other countries can't be trusted, for only U.S. can handle such responsibility.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GlvVBb3vMU
2010-08-15 23:31:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Nah... Give them to Antarctica. All their citizens know what to do with them... All zero of them... <_<2010-08-15 23:34:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979


It hopefully wont happen.
But why would russia sell nukes to Al Queda? I'm calling bs on that.

Its not bs, when russia was in a bad economic state they needed money bad so they started selling their nuclear weapons to anyone who was buying, and one of the buyers was Al Queda
2010-08-15 23:36:00

Author:
Charlemagne
Posts: 513


I'm lucky i live in the little country in the north, that no one notice 2010-08-15 23:40:00

Author:
Jonaolst
Posts: 935


Well, it's most likely out of our control. Unless one of us is a highly respected politician or, as said before, involved in some kind of group, there's nothing we can do. I have faith in most of the more powerful governments in the world to stop any lower/reckless countries from setting off any type of extremely deadly weapon. NO GOVERNMENT wants their country or others to be blown to pieces. That only hurts their own country if they allow another to be demolished. Economy, country relations, and trade will all be damaged heavily...2010-08-15 23:41:00

Author:
piggabling
Posts: 2979


If a nuclear bomb is dropped, the world will end. Not because of that particular nuke, but retaliation nukes and so on. Put in simple terms:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOM (http://www.lovemymower.co.uk/resources/_1793935_mrs-doyle-150-ch4.jpg)
2010-08-15 23:45:00

Author:
Keanster96
Posts: 1436


Well I dont think that they'll bother with this part of England, I also agree with RockSauron, I only trust Obama with nukes, tucked under his pillow every night.

This whole topic distresses me and causes me to worry about my future, so let's just hope that nothing happens.
I've already been very aware of the situation including what keanster has said above and I try not to think about it as it depresses me that something so radical is completely out of my control.
2010-08-15 23:47:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


Hopefully not, I only have a 24 killstreak. 2010-08-15 23:52:00

Author:
grayspence
Posts: 1990


, i am in the 2nd biggest city in the U.S so im keeping an eye out for any unusual Planes

Theres no point in looking for planes the bombs can go for a few miles.
2010-08-15 23:52:00

Author:
Unknown User


Well I dont think that they'll bother with this part of England...

I reiterate: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOM
2010-08-15 23:54:00

Author:
Keanster96
Posts: 1436


Hmm... don't know why they would bomb California lmao

The two places they are going to bomb first is D.C and southern Louisiana.
Southern louisiana has between 10%-30% of the U.S oil supply. 20% comes from other states, and about 50% is imported. Bombing LOOP would send this country into full blown depression and kill what little economy we have. Not to mention the majority of seafood and natural resources that comes from Louisiana that would further hinder the economy if it suddenly wasn't there.
Whats worse than that is that they know where LOOP is and they know the oil is connected to a massive underground resevoir that would cause a chain reaction of explosions
(I know this because theres a government agency that keeps tabs on these companies and it was leaked that some terrorist guy was scoping the place out)
2010-08-15 23:54:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


pfffffff....They would'nt nuke Hull, I'd like to see them try and find a better aquarium than "The Deep"2010-08-16 00:09:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


*Sigh* You americans are just too darn paranoid.

Now im not saying that an all out nuclear war won't happen, but it is pretty unlikely. These other countries who you suspect of targeting America are not run by idiots. They know that every action has a re-action. I.E. if they nuke the US, they are gonna get blown off the face of the earth as well.

Besides, the current state of things nuclear wise is OK really, compared to the cold war anyway this is nothing; and we all still managed to come out the other side of that right?

My advise, stop worrying about this sort of stuff. It's really not worth the effort.
2010-08-16 00:23:00

Author:
Mr_T-Shirt
Posts: 1477


Thanks Morton, you certainly helped me to see things rationaly, I sometimes get caught up in all these ideas2010-08-16 00:30:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


Just shoot the missiles out of the sky with big frickin' lazzzors.2010-08-16 00:35:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


Glad to live in the peacefull country that no one cares about. 2010-08-16 00:45:00

Author:
gdn001
Posts: 5891


Im not paranoid i just dont wanna get blown into lil bits by something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1sS1TmXF38&feature=related2010-08-16 01:37:00

Author:
Charlemagne
Posts: 513


ZfzY2gEClgo2010-08-16 01:40:00

Author:
Mrgenji
Posts: 803


Well to be kinda blunt this global society have trashed this planet anyway, a nuclear fallout wouldn't be any different to the way that the superpowers are willing to flash their deathswitches around to show they are in charge. It is almost like top trumps . We will have to wait and see if our children's children will perish from it...2010-08-16 01:50:00

Author:
AssassinatorRFC
Posts: 715


Well to be kinda blunt this global society have trashed this planet anyway, a nuclear fallout wouldn't be any different to the way that the superpowers are willing to flash their deathswitches around to show they are in charge. It is almost like top trumps . We will have to wait and see if our children's children will perish from it...

Ummm... Have you seen the effects of nuclear fallout? It can be pretty nasty. Greatly increased risk of contracting cancer, anyone?
2010-08-16 06:14:00

Author:
microchirp
Posts: 412


Lately, theres been alot of speculation about middle eastern and some asian countries wishing to do use Nuclear Weapons wrongly, mainly Iran And North Korea are targeted as the countries that will most likely push the button. Al Queda is said to have possession of nuclear weapons and uranium sold by an economically failing Russia.Ive had many dreams concerning global thermonuclear war also. Living in America, i believe we may be one of the biggest targets on the hit list for Al Queda and Iran. North Korea i dont know. All i know is that we may have a few InterContinental Balistics missles coming for either L.A or new york, i am in the 2nd biggest city in the U.S so im keeping an eye out for any unusual Planes, and Listening for the State Of Emergency sirens. What do you think about nuclear threat?

I live in Chicago, the Willis Tower is the most likely target, i live close enough for it to hit me to.... well thats nice knowing.
2010-08-16 06:17:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


I'm lucky i live in the little country in the north, that no one notice
/
Just for this post your country is the new target!!!!
2010-08-16 06:23:00

Author:
shadow3596
Posts: 2442


Nukes? Al Qaida? Lazzzors?

You guys really are silly sometimes.

To be honest, I don't really care. This is just conspiracy, and fearing about a possible Nuke will only end people running around like crazy... just like when LittleBigPlanet was announced.
2010-08-16 06:28:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


I live in Chicago, the Willis Tower is the most likely target, i live close enough for it to hit me to.... well thats nice knowing.

I think it's pretty safe to say that if a nuclear weapon went off in, or near pretty much anybody's city their health would be affected in one way or another. Sure, the blast may not hit you, but radiation is not a nice thing to be near either.
2010-08-16 07:57:00

Author:
microchirp
Posts: 412


wishing to do use Nuclear Weapons wrongly

Wait! Thee is a right way of using nuclear weapons?
2010-08-16 08:07:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Wait! Thee is a right way of using nuclear weapons?

"Aim away from face"
2010-08-16 08:10:00

Author:
microchirp
Posts: 412


Wait! Thee is a right way of using nuclear weapons?


"Aim away from face"



And make sure the wind isn't blowing in your direction.
2010-08-16 08:21:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


And no shots down "there" either.2010-08-16 12:32:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


I live near Birmingham which is the England's second city D:
But not like right next to it so if someone nuked it it would probably cause me a lot of pain, but not quite kill me. Woo.
2010-08-16 12:35:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a398/Aramax27/ClownNuke.png
LOL-NUKE
2010-08-16 12:39:00

Author:
Smelling-Cowboy
Posts: 668


I live near Birmingham which is the England's second city D:
But not like right next to it so if someone nuked it it would probably cause me a lot of pain, but not quite kill me. Woo.

Are you sure? (http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/200712B/GroundZero.html)
2010-08-16 12:40:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Anyway I believe Switzerland have enough room in their bunkers for the world population to be there. I think I will travel there 2012 in winter just in case an apocalyptic fanatic manages to press a red button.2010-08-16 13:20:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


Nuclear bombs are no match for the power of love.2010-08-16 14:41:00

Author:
AgentBanana
Posts: 511


Are you sure? (http://www.carloslabs.com/projects/200712B/GroundZero.html)

Looks like 3rd degree burns for me. Hooray ^___^
2010-08-16 14:46:00

Author:
ARD
Posts: 4291


Wait, which bomb would they use? And it does confuse me a little, the controls are a bit weird.2010-08-16 15:31:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


Put it this way. You have a gun held at point blank range to another guy's temple, he has exactly the same gun held to your temple. Neither of you wants to get blown to pieces, but you really want the other person dead. You know that as soon as you shoot him he'll shoot you, so what's the point in killing your archnemesis if you're not going to be alive to revel in his demise?

That's why the Cold War came to nothing. Everyone knew retaliation was inevitable, and everyone was happy being cancer free and alive. It was just America and Russia squaring up to each other like 5-year-old boys in the playground going "Look at my uber-cool weapon, it's better than yours".
2010-08-16 15:51:00

Author:
Holguin86
Posts: 875


If a nuclear bomb is dropped, the world will end. Not because of that particular nuke, but retaliation nukes and so on. Put in simple terms:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOM (http://www.lovemymower.co.uk/resources/_1793935_mrs-doyle-150-ch4.jpg)

So.... 2077? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_%28series%29)


If your at all concerned, just remember...

Duck & Cover! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_and_cover)
(Movie is quite amusing )
2010-08-16 15:53:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


I think it's pretty safe to say that if a nuclear weapon went off in, or near pretty much anybody's city their health would be affected in one way or another. Sure, the blast may not hit you, but radiation is not a nice thing to be near either.

No i live close enough for the blast to hit me D:
2010-08-16 16:39:00

Author:
Snrm
Posts: 6419


Wait! Thee is a right way of using nuclear weapons?

Well duh, You use em to blow up asteroids!
2010-08-16 17:15:00

Author:
SupaSack34
Posts: 180


Well duh, You use em to blow up asteroids!

I'm pretty sure we haven't used a single nuclear device in order to demolish a single asteroid... Yet.
2010-08-16 19:14:00

Author:
microchirp
Posts: 412


I'm pretty sure we haven't used a single nuclear device in order to demolish a single asteroid... Yet.

Thanks to Jupiter!

Loveable giant gas planet. How cute.
2010-08-16 19:48:00

Author:
AgentBanana
Posts: 511


Well, thanks alot, Albert Einstein.

Because of your equation we're all going to die.
2010-08-16 20:01:00

Author:
Frinklebumper
Posts: 941


THEY won't allow a nuclear war. http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm2010-08-16 20:05:00

Author:
BasketSnake
Posts: 2391


Thanks to Jupiter!

Loveable giant gas planet. How cute.

+jupiter is the main engine of some space satalites

Jupiter = epic win
2010-08-16 20:05:00

Author:
Smelling-Cowboy
Posts: 668


Pssh... if there's ever nuclear fallout, you'll be fine, just as long as you cover yourself and hide under the desk. Or at least thats what they used to teach kids in school.2010-08-16 20:16:00

Author:
Enlong3
Posts: 357


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ

If we get in a nuclear war, we all are affected, no matter where we live. I live miles away from anywhere in Scotland, but if a full-size tsar bomb went off in London, I'd know about it.
2010-08-16 20:17:00

Author:
resistance1
Posts: 812


The majority of the "Westernized" world I'd say is in very little danger of being nuked, especially the USA.2010-08-16 21:29:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Hmmmm..... Well I don't like nukes, but the idea of Fallout 3 is quite appealing. NukaCola anyone?2010-08-17 02:31:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


Enemie nuke incomming!
Its all over!
2010-08-17 04:25:00

Author:
Smelling-Cowboy
Posts: 668


Hmmm I don't know about Al Qeada, But I do know quite a bit about Nth Korea. Kim Jong II has mentioned on more than 1 occasion that he would turn Seoul (Sth KR Capital) into a sea of fire.

He is probably your biggest threat at the moment especially with the number of US troops still stationed in Sth KR. The Nth has shown on several occasions that it is not afraid to flex its military muscle, what with the sinking of a Sth KR navy frigate, The ballistic tests (which it is banned from doing after international agreements) and the live artillery bombardment into the yellow sea.

I can back up all this if anyone is interested.

Nth KR is a starving country with a dictator whose health is failing him. Things are quiet at the moment because they are dealing with floods in the northern provinces.

When your economy is collapsing, your citizens are starving and you know your time is nearly up you may find something rash happens, especially if he decides (pardon the pun) to go out with a bang.

IF the proverbial does hit the fan then the guys you should REALLY be afraid of are...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10995111

Because they will win
2010-08-17 05:23:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


I thought i would revive this thread what with the recent happenings with North Korea bombarding Sth Korean island. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/9218848.stm

I'll also point out this, Nuclear expert visits Nth Korean nuclear facility, sees 2,000 centrifuges (used for enriching uranium) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11810801 this comes not that long after the Stuxnet worm malware attacks, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11388018

" the first-known worm designed to target real-world infrastructure such as power stations"
"Mr Langner, who declined to be interviewed by the BBC, has drawn a lot of attention for suggesting that Stuxnet could have been targeting the Bushehr nuclear plant." (Iran)
"Stuxnet's complexity suggests it could only have been written by a "nation state", some researchers have claimed."

I can't link one event to another but I'm just thinking what I would do. Food for thought.

War does not start overnight
2010-11-23 11:41:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


Wait, what? North Korea is attacking South Korea? D: Oh frak, is this the beginning of a war against North Korea? ;-;2010-11-23 12:49:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


They can nuke all they want, but if they as much as dare as touching the internet, LBP or anything within it, then I am to transform into an ancient old being of old determined on putting this war to rest and punish the puny humans responsible... But at the moment I just feel like riding rocket cheetas.
<3
But be warned...
https://bridgingovertheocean.wikispaces.com/file/view/shadow-of-the-colossus-20050927025333795.jpg/33234187/shadow-of-the-colossus-20050927025333795.jpg
I am watching you :kz:
2010-11-23 17:45:00

Author:
moonwire
Posts: 1627


Wait, what? North Korea is attacking South Korea? D: Oh frak, is this the beginning of a war against North Korea? ;-;

Don't worry - I've played Fallout 3
2010-11-23 17:55:00

Author:
AgentBanana
Posts: 511


Didn't north Korea fire artillery shells at a south korean military base?
Saw this on yahoo when I flicked onto the web today.
2010-11-23 18:35:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


North Korea = Crazy war machines.

South Korea = Ultra Gaming Nerds.

2010-11-23 18:58:00

Author:
Jonaolst
Posts: 935


This doesn't look good... always knew we couldn't take NK's mindless threats too lightly.2010-11-23 19:00:00

Author:
Foofles
Posts: 2278


Nth Korea accused Sth of firing 1st. There were southern exercises in the area but they claim to have fired west not north. Then at approx 14:30 local time the northern artillery opened fire on the southern island. which was responded to by the military based on the island.

Nth: "We will continue strong military action if the sth violates 0.001mm of our naval territory"
Sth: "If the nth continues to attack we will respond with missiles"

I'll keep you posted if anyone launches any missiles
2010-11-23 19:46:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


Nth Korea accused Sth of firing 1st.

Han shot first!

Not the Chinese Han

North Korea always says it's the South's fault. If it's not South Korea, it's Japan or America. Or all three of them at once. Imperialist pigs that they are! ^.^
2010-11-23 20:43:00

Author:
Syroc
Posts: 3193


Oh great, a war for my generation to be drafted to! See you all in the rice fields!

We all know that if war is declared the U.S will be one, if not THE first to stick our heads up their *** and join in on the conflict.
Since the Vietnam war we have not had a full scale war, the middle east is/was armed conflict, but not a war.
Because of that and the fact that pretty much everyone is against us being in Iraq(Also that people don't want to die..) the military can barely make sign-up requirements.
So, if we don't gain more soldiers by the next big war, they will need to draft us to meet the conflict.

It's so ridiculous, if they(N Korea) attack ANYONE we should blow them off the face of the Earth.
The rest of the world doesn't have the time or rescources to waste dealing with these idiots(Kim Jong Il) and if they want to start **** they can't finish instead of planting crops and feeding their people, they deserve to get bombed to extinction.

This is Vietnam all over, drafts inbound for all males 18 years of age!
(They don't want the 30+ guys, they're too old and can't fight as hard as the younger guys, so they try to get 18 year olds or as close to 18 as possible.)

Anyone ready for Korea, Round 2?
2010-11-23 21:04:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


It's a more civilized world, they can't force us to fight like they used to. Although I do remember David Cameron tyring to make a couple of years in the military compulsary.
Whats the dealio with N Korea anyway? why are they intent on getting themselfes killed?
2010-11-24 00:15:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


And people wonder why we dive into our fantasy world of the LBP universe....2010-11-24 00:44:00

Author:
John82wa
Posts: 221


And people wonder why we dive into our fantasy world of the LBP universe....

You mean the world where hundreds of bombs rain down from the skies while we all get eaten by sharks? Compared to LBP, the real world is all flowers and cute puppies.
2010-11-24 01:42:00

Author:
booXely
Posts: 654


You mean the world where hundreds of bombs rain down from the skies while we all get eaten by sharks? Compared to LBP, the real world is all flowers and cute puppies.

lol, exactly
2010-11-24 02:20:00

Author:
John82wa
Posts: 221


Oh great, a war for my generation to be drafted to! See you all in the rice fields!

We all know that if war is declared the U.S will be one, if not THE first to stick our heads up their *** and join in on the conflict.
Since the Vietnam war we have not had a full scale war, the middle east is/was armed conflict, but not a war.
Because of that and the fact that pretty much everyone is against us being in Iraq(Also that people don't want to die..) the military can barely make sign-up requirements.
So, if we don't gain more soldiers by the next big war, they will need to draft us to meet the conflict.

It's so ridiculous, if they(N Korea) attack ANYONE we should blow them off the face of the Earth.
The rest of the world doesn't have the time or rescources to waste dealing with these idiots(Kim Jong Il) and if they want to start **** they can't finish instead of planting crops and feeding their people, they deserve to get bombed to extinction.

This is Vietnam all over, drafts inbound for all males 18 years of age!
(They don't want the 30+ guys, they're too old and can't fight as hard as the younger guys, so they try to get 18 year olds or as close to 18 as possible.)

Anyone ready for Korea, Round 2?

Brenmen, honestly, as much as I want to like you, your blindsighted, unthoughtful, and primaly aggresive comments are nothing short of the highest forms of idiocy.

1. Stop hating on the USA. We're not perfect, but we're frankly not too bad. I'm sorry if you live in Craptown, USA, but don't think every single member of government is a corrupt cloudhead.

2. There is no longer a draft. I doubt they will institute a draft. If there were a draft, there would be MASS outrage.

3. If you think this is as simple as bombing a country off the face of the map, you are not only ignorant of the consequences of actions but you know nothing of mercy or restraint. For one, nuclear war is not exactly a nice outcome for anyone on the planet. The North Koreans are also well-armed. A unpractical military 'rush' would cost the lives of not only our own soldiers but possibly of innocent NK citizens while probably achieving nothing.

4. Stop being such a Drama Queen. Honestly, I've seen more rational thought coming from 3rd graders. It sounds dire, but the exchange of a few bombs probably doesn't mean anything. When the nukes start flying, then I'll admit your right. Until then, don't think you know everything.
2010-11-24 02:26:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046


Updated news:

I read just now on an Australian newspaper site that massive tr00p movements and military vehicles have been spotted around the Nth Korean capital.

Also a US military families website is currently in lockdown, "no posting about tr00p movement!" having said that at the time of the incident I found out the USS George Washington was in exercises in the philippines, and I guessed that it would head straight for the Yellow Sea.

CORRECT! It is now due to perform joint exercises with several frigates and a sub in 4 days time

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/us_navy_pages/aircraft_carriers/george_washington_cvn_73/01_uss_george_washington_cvn_73.jpg

Nimitz class supercarrier

on a more sombre note:

The soldiers are 17-18 years old and have to do compulsary military service. One of the soldiers killed was just about to leave on the ferry as it was his last day. He turned back and went back to camp where he died of his wounds, on one of the korean forums it has been posted "if they were just firing shells at the island why can't they find his legs?". It has been suggested there was rocket fire as well as artillery.
2010-11-24 05:22:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


If there was any news of another Korean war, I'd be the first one to know (largest Pacific naval port in the US here, duh ). And so far, all I've heard is the "potential for conflict".

North Korea's government has ALWAYS been doing **** like this ever since the Korean War. Whenever they want more of something (due to their choice of isolating themselves from the rest of the world), they attack South Korea, feign innocence, demand a direct talk with our President, then threaten war if their demands aren't met. The only reason why they get what they want is because of our(U.S.) government or China's oblige to their needs. And what does that leave us? Recently, 4 dead Marines, 2 dead South Korean soldiers and 17 injured and/or dead South Korean civilians. And due to their praising of having nuclear warheads, no-one wants to stop this madness because... well, I'll ask you this: would YOU like to be nuked?

But the way I see it, this isn't an outcry anymore; this is war. And if North Korea's government intends on keeping this act up, they're gonna get a nice, ol' can of American and South Korean whup-***, along with any other country that's fed up with this puppy's biting. I know that other countries out there are just as bad as North Korea (and most of them seem to hate America), but letting an over-dramatized dictatorship get away with shelling civilians when it's situated between 3 superpowers? That's just wrong. And it seems that the next in line, Kim Jong-Un, is gonna be just like daddy. I feel so bad for the kid.

If anything, I don't see a war happening in our future; I see an coup d'etat that should've happened years ago.
2010-11-24 06:10:00

Author:
Outlaw-Jack
Posts: 5757


I mentioned the USS George Washington an hour before it was ever announced on abc etc. Just because your news doesn't report something (yet) doesn't mean it is not happening. The USS GW just happens to be forward deployed at the moment.

What makes this different from previous Nth Korean bellicose warmongering is that this is the first physical attack on Southern soil since the armistice 1/2 a century ago. It isn't the occasional bullet pinging across the boarder it is a full blown military attack.

The order was given to the F15 pilots that were scrambled to attack if fired upon, A total of 8 Sth Korean jets were launched and an unknown number of Nth fighters were in the air at the same time. This could easily have gotten really out of hand.

if anyone is interested, the attack started at 14:34 local time and the return fire happened at 14:47 that is pretty quick reaction considering they had to decide was it a military blunder (friendly) from the nearby exercises, then to get all soldiers off whatever exercises/work they were doing, get kitted up kevlar/weapons etc, pack satchels for quick deployment, ready the artillery, get permission to open fire. If it were me I would be still in the toilet block tying my bootlaces. That drill takes usually between 30 min and an hour, I guess when you have shells falling about you you focus a bit more. They did that in 13 min.

The return fire was not directed at the gun emplacements but the military base behind them. The damage to the other side is unconfirmed at this stage.

Edit:
I just checked Navy.mil there is practically no information there at all, not surprising if you don't want your opponents to know what you are up to.
2010-11-24 07:57:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


Time to pack your radiation proof undies folks

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2010/11/24/2010112400941.html
2010-11-24 08:23:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


Aw, nuclear war? ;-;

That's perfect. ;-;

Maybe if China decided to let go of North Korea... From what I understand, North Korea depends on China, but it seems North Korea is just a headache for China... but yeah. ;-; I unno. Poifect. :/
2010-11-24 14:08:00

Author:
RockSauron
Posts: 10882


Englands pretty small eh? I find it hard to believe that in todays world we can't defend ourself from nukes, cant we destroy them in the atmosphere?
WHO let them get a 25 killstreak anyway?!!!!
2010-11-24 17:23:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


Hmm nukes huh? Well did they get their 24 kill streak yet? If not, then we =have nothing to worry about.2010-11-24 18:46:00

Author:
Bradlee
Posts: 96


I wouldn't say there's any need to panic just yet. Nk has been working on nukes for a while and they've been at least semi-open about it (showing off their centrifuges and such) and there's already talk that they'll possibly make nuclear concessions (give up their nukes or some of them or whatever) in exchange for aid.

As for the draft, has that really been cancelled? If so, it's been in the last 12 years because when I turned 18, I was required by law to sign up for it, and I saw those posters at least as recently as 2000.


Englands pretty small eh? I find it hard to believe that in todays world we can't defend ourself from nukes, cant we destroy them in the atmosphere?

I thought I had heard there were anti-nuke missiles that could be used to shoot down icbms. Now that I think about it, the guy I heard it from was prone to taking liberties in his story-telling so I guess I should look it up.
2010-11-24 19:38:00

Author:
Sehven
Posts: 2188


Ok... they said that they would stop making Nukes in exchange for aid you say?? Well the SK president has just cut all aid indefinitely

China needs to let go? and a day before the shelling China NK signed new cooperation and aid agreements
2010-11-24 21:28:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


@Astro

lol my comment got deleted.
You didn't get the reference.

@Sehven

The draft is still there, you still have to sign up.
After Vietnam they decided they wanted as many willing soldiers as possible, so there would be less anti-war sentiment.
Vietnam had the last draft, but they can call a draft at any time.
2010-11-24 21:43:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


Ok... they said that they would stop making Nukes in exchange for aid you say?? Well the SK president has just cut all aid indefinitely

China needs to let go? and a day before the shelling China NK signed new cooperation and aid agreements

I think nuklear warfare would be the last resort really, they're aware of the lashback they'd recieve,
come on....we dont know what will happen, its all wild speculation.

There are much larger threats to worry about......

http://gearsofresearch.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/godzilla.jpg
2010-11-25 01:06:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


If I can remember clearly, we had some project running for a while by Ronald Reagan for an anti-missile laser called Star Wars. It's funny how we had that years ago, and now we totally forgotten about it, especially in a time like this.

EDIT: Found it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative
2010-11-25 04:45:00

Author:
CyberSora
Posts: 5551


now we totally forgotten about it.

It's not a case of it being forgotten, it's actually quite a big deal still. The problem is that Military project like this that take decades to get the technology up and running don't really make for good copy, so you're unlikely to hear much about them. Boeing are still working hard on laser defense tech and successfully took out a ballistic missile (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/15/abl_fries_at_last/) early this year, though subsequent tests have been less successful.

However, with the US military's current heavy emphasis on ISR (intelligence, surveillance & reconnaissance) and the economic climate, I'm not sure how much funding has been diverted away from projects like this (many high-tech, long-term research projects have been canceled over the last year or so)
2010-11-25 11:21:00

Author:
rtm223
Posts: 6497


The "Star Wars" project didn't entirely die, but evolved into something slightly different this http://fliiby.com/file/134752/wa9xl27vak.html Edit: oh yes thx rtm just looked at your link. The other thing about the jumbojet is it can take out ground targets as well.

IMPORTANT UPDATE: USA stated that they will use nuclear weapons if the Chinese forces use weapons that take out the USS George Washington. source DAUM.NET

The SK minister of defence (4 star General) Resigned his post after pressure from both political parties having to explain why it took 13 minuets to react, he replied (and I'm not kidding, just paraphrasing) "This isn't like starcraft it takes time to confirm orders and move equipment"

Bit 'o background.... It is COMPULSARY for all SK males between 17-18 to do military service. The (Japanese born) President and most of his cabinet have not done any military service.

The next exercises are due to start Sunday, if that is local time then it will be Sat for most Americans
2010-11-26 04:57:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


Bit 'o background.... It is COMPULSARY for all SK males between 17-18 to do military service. The (Japanese born) President and most of his cabinet have not done any military service.


Of course.
Jackassry.
2010-11-26 05:08:00

Author:
Bremnen
Posts: 1800


This isnt good... however, NZ is not target #1 so.... But maybe thats what they want us to think..
*dives in bunker*
2010-11-26 05:14:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


Stay tuned, if I post here again it is probably **** hitting the fan

EDIT:

I forgot

We have to stand by our North Korean allies - Sarah Palin

Please America don't give this woman the launch codes!
2010-11-26 05:31:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


*stays tuned*
But I am kinda terrified...
2010-11-26 06:06:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


Okay, just to be clear I hate Sarah Palin just as much as anyone who isn't a bible-belt redneck soccer mom but I have to ask, when did she say that and in what context? Given the general level of ignorance she displays I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a confused gaffe on her part in mistaking which Korea is a rogue totalitarian regime; and if she really wasn't confused about the issue then I can only assume she is genuinely insane and that the GOP seriously needs to bury her.2010-11-26 07:20:00

Author:
Dapiek Absaroka
Posts: 512


Nuclear Threat? ... Oooh! Sorry that was me.

Y'know... Beans.
2010-11-26 07:25:00

Author:
illuminationx
Posts: 860


Stay tuned, if I post here again it is probably **** hitting the fan

EDIT:

I forgot


Please America don't give this woman the launch codes!

God help us all....
2010-11-26 07:41:00

Author:
AA_BATTERY
Posts: 1117


The media coverage on this, much like it is in relation to Israel, is entirely one-sided.

Who wouldn't expect NK to take measures to protect its national sovereignty, when it has SK and America carrying out provocative military exercises and testing its borders? If it were another, "democratic," country however - by that I mean a state propped up by the US - I'm sure the coverage would have been very different. It was America that divided the country to begin with.
2010-11-27 06:07:00

Author:
Ayneh
Posts: 2454


The media coverage on this, much like it is in relation to Israel, is entirely one-sided.

Who wouldn't expect NK to take measures to protect its national sovereignty, when it has SK and America carrying out provocative military exercises and testing its borders? If it were another, "democratic," country however - by that I mean a state propped up by the US - I'm sure the coverage would have been very different. It was America that divided the country to begin with.

It's not like we sent an armada of tanks over border. Honestly, these guys are nuts.
2010-11-27 06:31:00

Author:
Astrosimi
Posts: 2046


ok getting information out of NK is near impossible at the best of times... you think they will give up information after bombing their neighbours?

As far as they are concerned the SK shells crossed the sea boarder of the northern limit line (which they do not agree on it's location) to which they responded by shelling a land based target and hitting civilian populated areas. Trust me, the information I am providing is based on facts and events not emotion.

Important as well as shells 122mm rockets were found to have been fired from NK. These are fired from a Type-81 MRL or a BM-21
http://www.ddrafg.com/images/Heavy%20Weapon/New%20images/bm-21.jpg

The coast artillery does not possess these vehicles, it has been suggested that they were brought down by the NK 4th corps, which means... the attack was premeditated. Not to mention that the successor Kim Jong Un visited the site the day before the event.

Lets just see what happens on Sunday.
2010-11-27 09:58:00

Author:
Strangepom
Posts: 445


I bet there are some north koreans in a forum right now, discussing the possibility of being nuked. Nuff said2010-11-27 16:01:00

Author:
MrFunctionality
Posts: 637


War. War never changes.2010-11-27 21:17:00

Author:
Nurolight
Posts: 918


Checkout the North Korea updates' thread by Strangepoms:
https://lbpcentral.lbp-hub.com/index.php?t=40546-N.Korea-Updates
The threads bring the reality to this topic (Yikes!).
2010-11-28 20:30:00

Author:
Unknown User


You always have to temper any news of this kind with an opposite/contrary voice.
World War III is a Propaganda War - and it's something the West is very good at fighting.
We can muddy just about any clear waters with our propaganda - even convince our own populace to wage an illegal war based on fiction.
It's worth remembering - when you are "fearfull" of an impending Nuclear Attack... that so far America is the only country Stupid/Evil enough to have actually used such a weapon on a civilian population... but hey, they did the evil act (twice) for all of the right reasons right? (more propaganda)
2010-11-29 18:52:00

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Macnme
Posts: 1970


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