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Ps4 to be out by 2014!!!!!!!!
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| Whaaa.....Maybe a rumor who knows, but its coming along with blockbuster titles, including (GOW4, Killzone 4 and more) Talk among your selfs...... http://www.gamesthirst.com/2010/08/04/ps4-will-launch-in-2014-with-killzone-4-resistance-4-and-gow-4-as-launch-titles/ | 2010-08-05 13:34:00 Author: The_Lil_JoKeR  Posts: 745 |
| Probably a rumour, but it's cool if it's true I guess, I'm guessing PS4 will be able to handle even more... so, LBP3 anybody? Eveen reeler waterz!!!1!!1!!one!! | 2010-08-05 13:40:00 Author: Doopz  Posts: 5592 |
that would be epic LBP 3 lol  | 2010-08-05 13:42:00 Author: The_Lil_JoKeR Posts: 745 |
| What? Really? uhm.. that must be my comment to this.. I don't know if I beilive it or not | 2010-08-05 13:49:00 Author: Mugsig  Posts: 85 |
| Imagine the graphics.... When ps2 was out the graphics were OK, Then when the ps3 was revealed the graphics were jaw dropping. So i cant even describe what ps4 graphics will be | 2010-08-05 13:52:00 Author: The_Lil_JoKeR Posts: 745 |
| How much better can techonlogy become? I like my PS3 | 2010-08-05 13:55:00 Author: Mugsig Posts: 85 |
| Hmm well true or not when they do make one i hope it is worth it and not start out as 600$ like 3 did, *mew really i don't see much point, most game makers have not even taking ps3 as far it can go at all yet, and the ps3 can update itself as it is somewhat, and i heard ps3 don't even get as much as it could because its to costly to make them its a lot less to make wii and psp and DS games, just why some games been going to them more then the ps3 sadly :/ *mew | 2010-08-05 13:57:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz  Posts: 4261 |
| It won't happen, we'll all be dead - The world ends in 2012. | 2010-08-05 14:03:00 Author: resistance1  Posts: 812 |
Haha Nooo it want happen  OFF TOPIC here is my theory of 2012 its just there calendar starting over. OR Maybe they didn't finish the calendar, because they all died. | 2010-08-05 14:12:00 Author: The_Lil_JoKeR Posts: 745 |
| It won't happen, we'll all be dead - The world ends in 2012. Oh no not the end of the world 2012 jokes, i wonder how many people beleve in that, its sad really remamber the 2000 jokes? oh yeah the world looks SooOoo ended xD *mew but anyways i hope PS4 is a long ways away, ps3 is more then good enogth for many years to come <3 | 2010-08-05 14:12:00 Author: Lord-Dreamerz Posts: 4261 |
| Haha they even made a 2000 movie, Oh the irony!!!!!!!!! But PS4 will probably be better then ps3 i assume | 2010-08-05 14:18:00 Author: The_Lil_JoKeR Posts: 745 |
| Um... yeah, that article is in no ways serious or should be taken seriously >_> | 2010-08-05 14:20:00 Author: RockSauron  Posts: 10882 |
| I thought GOW3 was the end of the trilogy :/ | 2010-08-05 14:20:00 Author: Testudini  Posts: 3262 |
| Haha they even made a 2000 movie, Oh the irony!!!!!!!!! But PS4 will probably be better then ps3 i assume No probably about it, if Sony are going to release a PS4 they'll have to make it absolutely phenomenal to keep up with the other gaming companies. | 2010-08-05 14:20:00 Author: resistance1 Posts: 812 |
| I think we'd need a new generation PSP before anything else. | 2010-08-05 14:37:00 Author: Gilgamesh  Posts: 2536 |
| People don't read too much into this, it is fiction, however the writer brings up a good point, Nintendo need to bring out a new home console soon, and it needs to be a big improvement. Microsoft's 360 is starting to be out dated, the console was never too powerful to begin with but it is really getting rough and is starting not to be supported by developers. Look at VALVE, a company that has shown a distaste in the console market that once praised the 360 over the PS3 because it was easier to port games over. But now they are in love with SONY because of the flexibility the PS3 brings, the ability for VALVE to bring a part of the steam platform into console gaming, Portal 2 will not be the the end of VALVES support of the PS3. Sony will get them to bring the full (as full as it can be) STEAM platform to the playstation and the SONY VALVE alliance will destroy microsoft. Look at games for windows, an attempt by microsoft to beat steam, destroyed as quickly as it started, it wont be long until the same is done to the 360. Sony have started to do all the right moves and have just slowly building themselves to crush the competitors. Microsoft and nintendo think that they are market leaders, and while the numbers might support this they have failed to properly notice Sony sprouting their wings. Microsoft tried to get one over on sony by getting Kojima to make a game for their console, and what does microsoft get, a rather poor spin-off to the MGS series. The fact is that microsoft will continue to sell and so will nintendo, but when Sony jump onto the next generation it will be over, in 25 years time kids will be sayin Xwhat and nintendwho. (yes I know rubbish jokes). | 2010-08-05 14:38:00 Author: robotiod  Posts: 2662 |
| The Playstation was released in 1994, the PS2 in 2000 and the PS3 in 2006. If Sony keeps up this pattern of a new console every 6 years, the PS4 should be out 2012/2013!  | 2010-08-05 14:50:00 Author: Rhys125  Posts: 841 |
| Ps4 <3 | 2010-08-05 14:50:00 Author: Alec  Posts: 3871 |
| The Playstation was released in 1994, the PS2 in 2000 and the PS3 in 2006. If Sony keeps up this pattern of a new console every 6 years, the P$4 should be out 2012/2013! I highly doubt Sony would do that. 1. Sony has just FINALLY started making money on the Ps3. 2. The Ps3 and 360 are capable of software updates, and their graphical capabilities cannot really be expanded upon too much. It really would be stupid for either Sony or Microsoft to move onto the next console this early :/. Now that consoles can be updated after the fact, there isn't much to be added persay. Plus the fact that they still haven't recouped losses from the PS3 throws that whole idea out >_> | 2010-08-05 14:53:00 Author: RockSauron Posts: 10882 |
| My reaction after seeing the title of this thread: "Not another rumor again." But seriously, it's possible but not needed yet. Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are practically building on to their current consoles. Especially with all this 3-D business going on. The way I see it, the PS4 (if it comes out) will just be a super PS3 with everything built on it that they worked on during the PS3 days. The only console that needs to move to the next stage is the Wii. Being a Wii owner myself, I know it has good graphics. It just needs one more good push to rival it's competitors. | 2010-08-05 14:55:00 Author: siberian_ninja15  Posts: 444 |
| I highly doubt Sony would do that. 1. Sony has just FINALLY started making money on the Ps3. 2. The Ps3 and 360 are capable of software updates, and their graphical capabilities cannot really be expanded upon too much. It really would be stupid for either Sony or Microsoft to move onto the next console this early :/. Now that consoles can be updated after the fact, there isn't much to be added persay. Plus the fact that they still haven't recouped losses from the PS3 throws that whole idea out >_> Good point. It does seem a little early to introduce a new console as the PS3 is just starting to hit its stride. Although they may be under pressure to release a new console to keep up with Microsoft and Nintendo. I doubt Sony would want to be a year behind again, like they were in this generation. | 2010-08-05 15:06:00 Author: Rhys125 Posts: 841 |
| How much better can techonlogy become? You have no idea. The PS4 won't happen till 2017,or later, if all 3 companies stick to their '10 year life cycle' | 2010-08-05 16:09:00 Author: Bremnen  Posts: 1800 |
| Lets post a speculative article made of guess work and get lots of ad revenue from it. The PS4 won't happen till 2017,or later, if all 3 companies stick to their '10 year life cycle' Yeah it doesn't quite work like that, the PS2 is on a 10 year life cycle and the PS3 came out in year 6 it. | 2010-08-05 16:19:00 Author: Rabid-Coot  Posts: 6728 |
| They also didn't even think up 10 year life cycles until after the PS3 was released If they didn't think they could milk it for a few more years, support woul have stopped around 2008 when the PS3 started really taking off. | 2010-08-05 16:29:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800 |
| Xbox 720 in 2012... so now we know how the world will end D: LOL JK the world won't end in 2012 | 2010-08-05 20:45:00 Author: PlayStatiowned  Posts: 83 |
| Long time to wait but i just got a PSP go so it would be a bit of a bummer for it to come out too soon. | 2010-08-05 20:51:00 Author: Unknown User  |
| Imagine the graphics.... When ps2 was out the graphics were OK, Then when the ps3 was revealed the graphics were jaw dropping. So i cant even describe what ps4 graphics will be play metro 2033 on a very high end PC and you'll see it. | 2010-08-05 21:01:00 Author: oldage  Posts: 2824 |
| I think companies should start looking into cloud gaming a bit more for the next generation or the one after that, I do like the look of Onlive and what it can accomplish. For example: load times that are next to nothing, or the fact that after cloud gaming takes off we won't have to buy a new console for graphics or system capabilities, they can simply upgrade the servers. The only time we would need to buy a new console is when new methods of controlling games roll along. | 2010-08-05 21:08:00 Author: olit123  Posts: 1341 |
| The Playstation was released in 1994, the PS2 in 2000 and the PS3 in 2006. If Sony keeps up this pattern of a new console every 6 years, the PS4 should be out 2012/2013! First game to be available on PS4: 2012 | 2010-08-05 21:14:00 Author: CyberSora Posts: 5551 |
| I hope this is real!!!!!!! | 2010-08-05 21:20:00 Author: shadow3596  Posts: 2442 |
| I wish we would be alive at 2014 | 2010-08-05 21:45:00 Author: Snrm  Posts: 6419 |
| Hm.... Considering the fact that the PS3 in a few months is be able to run 3D games and in HD. Which is gunna be hella awesome, can't wait for Gran Turismo 5. Wonder what the PS4 will do... VIRTUAL GAMING FTW!! Feel every bump, crash, and gunshot wound (well thats a bad idea), as each game takes you into their environment! | 2010-08-05 21:58:00 Author: illuminationx  Posts: 860 |
| What everyone fails to realize though is that graphics are nearing perfection! Consoles are so close to having graphics that cannot be enhanced anymore! I believe the next generation for Home Consoles are the last :kz: | 2010-08-05 22:06:00 Author: Snrm Posts: 6419 |
| Uncharted 2 is the closest one <3 | 2010-08-05 22:13:00 Author: Jonaolst  Posts: 935 |
| What everyone fails to realize though is that graphics are nearing perfection! Consoles are so close to having graphics that cannot be enhanced anymore! I believe the next generation for Home Consoles are the last :kz: I think there are at least two generations left before graphics are near perfection. Next generation: current cinematic graphical quality. Generation after: the amount of detail in-game would be **** near close to real life. | 2010-08-05 22:37:00 Author: olit123 Posts: 1341 |
| no no no they will probably make it as real as life. | 2010-08-06 02:31:00 Author: ktmbillyjr  Posts: 177 |
| Imagine the graphics.... When ps2 was out the graphics were OK, Then when the ps3 was revealed the graphics were jaw dropping. So i cant even describe what ps4 graphics will be Probably a wee bit better than the current generation of PC games assuming it comes out within the next 2 or 3 years... Well, actually there's quite a lot that could happen between now and then. But, you aren't going to see anything that rivals a Pixar movie in real-time yet. How much better can techonlogy become? I like my PS3 You have to be kidding! Look at the current generation of graphics cards for instance, and compare that to the last. It's kind of ridiculous in comparison to what was available in 2006/2007. Computing technology can improve immensely, even in just a few years time. Heck, 15 years ago real-time 3D games were practically unheard of. Now they're common place! 15 years is really not that much time when you think about it. I think we'd need a new generation PSP before anything else. I completely agree... I remember hearing all of the rumors around the time the PSP: Go! came out... I have to say I was a little bit disappointed by what it actually turned out to be. I would love to see some form of "PSP2" in the near future. I highly doubt Sony would do that. 1. Sony has just FINALLY started making money on the Ps3. 2. The Ps3 and 360 are capable of software updates, and their graphical capabilities cannot really be expanded upon too much. It really would be stupid for either Sony or Microsoft to move onto the next console this early :/. Now that consoles can be updated after the fact, there isn't much to be added persay. Plus the fact that they still haven't recouped losses from the PS3 throws that whole idea out >_> The graphics can be expanded upon immensely. The fact that most of the current games don't even render anti-aliased 1080p video at 60fps alone should be a clue of that. Despite what some people might believe, the current generation of consoles is extremely far from being able to render photo realistic graphics. That being said, they were a substantial leap forward over the last generation. Ultimately, if you want to stay on the bleeding edge of the graphics front it's probably best to stick with a PC and upgrade your graphics card every few months. Current generations of personal computers can pretty much out compete any of the consoles any day of the week. The software updates were / are able to add substantial value to the consoles, but they can not get around hardware limitations. I think companies should start looking into cloud gaming a bit more for the next generation or the one after that, I do like the look of Onlive and what it can accomplish. For example: load times that are next to nothing, or the fact that after cloud gaming takes off we won't have to buy a new console for graphics or system capabilities, they can simply upgrade the servers. The only time we would need to buy a new console is when new methods of controlling games roll along. Eh, I don't really like the idea of cloud computing for gaming. At least, not for a while. Network latency is currently too big of an issue for any hardcore gamer. Plus, the fact that you are no longer in control of your games, your save data, or any of that is a problem for a lot of people. You wouldn't really need to buy a new console in order to have new input methods, though. You can likely just have attachments, little bluetooth or usb extensions. There's probably a future for it... But, I currently think that the technology behind it all needs to mature a little bit before it's a viable and reliable platform for all. What everyone fails to realize though is that graphics are nearing perfection! Consoles are so close to having graphics that cannot be enhanced anymore! I believe the next generation for Home Consoles are the last :kz: I'm sorry, but believe me. Graphics on the PS3 are so far from perfection. Games like Uncharted 2 are gorgeous, but there are still a lot of things missing from the games. Decent anti-aliasing and resolution are a common problem, for instance. Even decent looking soft shadows seem to be evading developers on the current generation of platforms. The games look nice upon a glance, sure. But, with further inspection and attention to detail it is extremely obvious that they are severly lacking in realism. I think there are at least two generations left before graphics are near perfection. Next generation: current cinematic graphical quality. Generation after: the amount of detail in-game would be **** near close to real life. I highly doubt that the next generation of consoles will be able to achieve cinimatic realism in real-time with large dynamic scenes. They will most certainly be closer than the current generation, but I doubt that they will come anywhere close to Pixar quality. There are simply far too many calculations involved. A frame from a pixar quality movie can take hours to render on high end servers. It is simply not possible for current hardware (and likely that within the next few years) to render photo-realistic images of large dynamic scenes in real time. Will it be a huge improvement? I'm sure of it. But, will it be photo-realistic? That's highly unlikely. I'm not sure I'll deal with consoles in the next generation at all, really... Granted, LBP might drag me in. But, that being said... What I'm hoping to see is more dynamic and interactive environments. More realistic physics, that sort of thing. But, we'll just have to wait and see. Graphics technology is advancing at a very rapid pace, but we're still quite a long ways from real-time photo realistic images... I wouldn't even really call any of the CG in movies photo realistic. Close? Maybe, but not quite there. It's a nice idea, but it's not quite as simple as you would think. Currently real-time generation of photo realistic images is mostly a dream. But, who knows. Computational technology does advance at a rather rapid rate. There's some impressive stuff in our near future, that's for sure. | 2010-08-06 05:05:00 Author: microchirp  Posts: 412 |
| The real question is how financially viable is the continuing improvement of graphics, increasing the number of polygons in a model, higher resolution textures and more stuff on screen in general is either going to require more staff or a longer development period. We've already had increasing costs used to justify the price rise in this generation they could easily do it again | 2010-08-06 09:29:00 Author: Rabid-Coot Posts: 6728 |
| The real question is how financially viable is the continuing improvement of graphics, increasing the number of polygons in a model, higher resolution textures and more stuff on screen in general is either going to require more staff or a longer development period. We've already had increasing costs used to justify the price rise in this generation they could easily do it again Ah! Now there's an interesting point... For the most part, however, I don't think it will add a significant cost to the games as time goes on. Better tools, and resources will make development much easier too. But, for example... Most game characters are made with much more detail than what's actually used for the in game model. Many game companies use programs like Z-Brush to make extremely detailed models for characters and such. These can be used to help generate normal maps, bump maps, and what have you for the lower-poly characters... It's only really a matter of sticking to the higher resolution stuff if we get enough polygon pushing power . Plus, the cost of video game development is likely going to drop significantly since so many people want to go into it... So, yay for expendable drones? Furthermore, if I recall correctly... We have seen some of the largest budgets ever for video games this generation. Who is to say that won't increase as well? People may also be willing to pay even more for large video games in the future, especially if they're stuffed full of delicious content.Now that being said the cost of developing new and improved hardware is probably going to be justified for a very, very long time (if not forever? Who knows what physical constraints we'll have with future generations of hardware...). Gaming is a large driving force of technology currently, sure. But, there are other reasons to improve upon hardware (if there is such a budget barrier in the future for video games)... Simulations and whatnot... Furthermore, cheaper and faster hardware will pretty much always be in demand. Consider OnLive, which somebody brought up. Even if cloud computing stuff is the future of gaming the hardware will still need to improve in order for OnLive to be able to service all of its customers. With more people and computationally expensive games OnLive would need to provide more computing power for everybody to play happily. Cheaper and more powerful hardware will allow them to provide better services to more people. Not to mention the fact that more energy efficient hardware could save them quite a lot of money too... So, I doubt hardware development is going to go out of style any time soon. | 2010-08-06 09:50:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| Probably a wee bit better than the current generation of PC games assuming it comes out within the next 2 or 3 years... Well, actually there's quite a lot that could happen between now and then. But, you aren't going to see anything that rivals a Pixar movie in real-time yet. yep, and PC's will be even further when that happens...ATI is already planning the 6xxx series <_> | 2010-08-06 10:43:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824 |
http://www.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/12/ps4tape.jpg Home-made PS4!!! | 2010-08-06 12:16:00 Author: Jovuto  Posts: 2345 |
| http://www.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/12/ps4tape.jpg Home-made PS4!!! Playstation1 + Playstation2 = Playstation3 silly | 2010-08-06 12:28:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Playstation1 + Playstation2 = Playstation3 silly I thought that was a PS2 on the back  | 2010-08-06 12:37:00 Author: Jovuto Posts: 2345 |
| yep, and PC's will be even further when that happens...ATI is already planning the 6xxx series <_> Oh yeah, of course. The graphics card developers are pretty much never going to stop or slow down (well, physical constraints may become an issue in the future...). They pretty much double the power of GPU's every 6 months or so. | 2010-08-06 21:07:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| Eh, I don't really like the idea of cloud computing for gaming. At least, not for a while. Network latency is currently too big of an issue for any hardcore gamer. Plus, the fact that you are no longer in control of your games, your save data, or any of that is a problem for a lot of people. You wouldn't really need to buy a new console in order to have new input methods, though. You can likely just have attachments, little bluetooth or usb extensions. There's probably a future for it... But, I currently think that the technology behind it all needs to mature a little bit before it's a viable and reliable platform for all. Yep I definitely don't mean now, when we are able to stream 1080 images to most places in the world, that's when I believe we should move onto cloud I think that people should be able to play their console online wherever they are using 4G or something. The fact that we won't be in control of our games doesn't bother me too much, I think there will be laws introduced eventually where virtual memory will be given the same value as something in real life so if Sony, Microsoft or another company delete someone's saves without a good enough reason, they would have to face the consequences.I do think we will all move onto cloud gaming platforms eventually, but not for a long while now. | 2010-08-06 21:45:00 Author: olit123 Posts: 1341 |
| Yep I definitely don't mean now, when we are able to stream 1080 images to most places in the world, that's when I believe we should move onto cloud I think that people should be able to play their console online wherever they are using 4G or something. The fact that we won't be in control of our games doesn't bother me too much, I think there will be laws introduced eventually where virtual memory will be given the same value as something in real life so if Sony, Microsoft or another company delete someone's saves without a good enough reason, they would have to face the consequences. I do think we will all move onto cloud gaming platforms eventually, but not for a long while now. As long as internet providers keep slowing peoples connections at peek times we will never take this on. Who wants to find out that when they get home they cant play a single player game because it is going to lag every few seconds. I don't think anything like that will really take on for many years to come. | 2010-08-06 21:53:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| Yep I definitely don't mean now, when we are able to stream 1080 images to most places in the world, that's when I believe we should move onto cloud I think that people should be able to play their console online wherever they are using 4G or something. The fact that we won't be in control of our games doesn't bother me too much, I think there will be laws introduced eventually where virtual memory will be given the same value as something in real life so if Sony, Microsoft or another company delete someone's saves without a good enough reason, they would have to face the consequences. I do think we will all move onto cloud gaming platforms eventually, but not for a long while now. Streaming video is one thing, but with interactive content even a small amount of latency can become a large issue. You can buffer a movie, but you can't buffer a game. I doubt that there will be too many laws created in regards to that. If anything laws are currently progressing in the opposite direction, and companies most certainly love having more and more control over their customers. That being said... There may be competing cloud-computing companies with different guarantees and such. That seems far more likely to me. | 2010-08-06 22:01:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| Looking good, but I'm afraid that: 1) No Backwards Compatibility with PS3: I would like to see it playing PS3 games, including online. It would suck to throw it all away. No LBP2 players anymore? 2) Price: it would get here in Brazil costing the same price of my eyes, if I sell them I won't be able to play! | 2010-08-06 22:05:00 Author: gdn001  Posts: 5891 |
| Looking good, but I'm afraid that: 1) No Backwards Compatibility with PS3: I would like to see it playing PS3 games, including online. It would suck to throw it all away. No LBP2 players anymore? 2) Price: it would get here in Brazil costing the same price of my eyes, if I sell them I won't be able to play! Yeah, honestly I was wondering about the backwards compatibility thing too... Who knows! Bleh! I know somebody from Brazil and it's just disgusting how much you guys get screwed over for games. Canada sucks enough, but it's nothing in comparison to Brazil and Australia o_o. | 2010-08-06 22:08:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| I dont care about BC, I aren't going to get rid of my Ps3's any time soon. | 2010-08-06 22:15:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| I dont care about BC, I aren't going to get rid of my Ps3's any time soon. Me too, but I'm afraid lots of people will stop playing PS3 games online (including LBP) and the PS3's PSN will become empty. | 2010-08-06 23:18:00 Author: gdn001 Posts: 5891 |
| Can we discuss any event after 2012 without the end of the world being brought up? xD | 2010-08-06 23:32:00 Author: Dexiro  Posts: 2100 |
| Me too, but I'm afraid lots of people will stop playing PS3 games online (including LBP) and the PS3's PSN will become empty. Oh my I'd love it if it could happen. The only ones who will stay in LBP even if nobody plays it are the true LBP lovers. THis means, no more noobs! Oh and btw... the article is fake and GoW 4 won't happen | 2010-08-06 23:38:00 Author: Chump  Posts: 1712 |
| Can we discuss any event after 2012 without the end of the world being brought up? xD Yes, after 2012. Before then? Dare to dream my friend... Dare to dream. Hmmm, that brings up another important point actually... With the release of Playstation plus and whatnot, do you think that Sony will continue to have free online support? | 2010-08-06 23:51:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| Hmmm, that brings up another important point actually... With the release of Playstation plus and whatnot, do you think that Sony will continue to have free online support? Of course, why would they risk losing the majority of their customers then? | 2010-08-06 23:54:00 Author: Chump Posts: 1712 |
| Of course, why would they risk losing the majority of their customers then? Because a lot of people would probably pay it for one thing... Then they'll just make more customers, paying customers at that. | 2010-08-07 00:02:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| I don't think that I'll be getting a PS4 if one actually does come out any time soon. I like just got my PS3 and don't feel like going out to get another new system. | 2010-08-07 17:09:00 Author: eagerneph  Posts: 1536 |
| I think that the PS3 should and could survive another 5 years. It is, and i'm not trying to sound all fanboyish, the most advanced of the consoles out today. There is no reason it couldn't last another half-decade with all of the stuff it is capable of. Game designers have, just within the past year, began to figure out how to actually program and make the games the PS3 was intended to play. It took designers 3 years to make games that function on the lower half of the PS3's capablity, just wait and see what can happen in the coming years. There's no need for another Playstation at the moment. LBP2 anyone? | 2010-08-07 17:46:00 Author: piggabling  Posts: 2979 |
| People need to stop saying things like its too soon etc, remember the article is fiction and in no way is what will really happen. 2014 is 4 years away and if the PS3's release is anything to go by it will be late 2014 even if 2014 is a correct date. 4 more years is a long time and technology can and will jump by then, what the PS3 can do is brilliant but it is not time proof by any means. But what eagerneph said I don't feel like buying a new system any time soon. 4 year is not really soon, and even if you did wait a year which is never a bad thing with new technology thats 5 years, its a bit too soon to be thinking about purchases you will be making in 5 years. | 2010-08-07 18:57:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| http://a.imageshack.us/img717/818/bert.gif PS4?! | 2010-08-07 19:21:00 Author: trip090  Posts: 1562 |
| Microsoft have recently been buying up rights to license certain hardware recently. Speculation is that that is in prep for the next xbox.... I'd imagine both companies are seriously thinking about and investigating where to take their hardware architectures for the next gen. Remember that while devs are pushing back the bounds of what can be achieved on a given platform, a custom hw architecture takes a while to develop and you don't want to wait for the devs to max out potential before starting on your redesign. It's not like intel, doing incremental updates on the same architecture every 6 months, this is a complete system redesign from the ground up, and has to last for what is a very long life cycle in consumer technology terms | 2010-08-07 19:22:00 Author: rtm223  Posts: 6497 |
| .....Thread deserves a slap in the face God Of War is sorta done with. Doubt there will be a part 4, also, why would they be working on Killzone 4 if 3 isn't even out yet :| And as for resistance 4.....is there a resistance 3? If not then that's just dumb. Also i wouldn't read anything about gaming when the banner says "?!?!?!?!??!PS4?!?!?!?!?!" :| | 2010-08-07 19:26:00 Author: Unknown User |
| For people who think Onlive and cloud gaming is the next step in gaming: No. Just no. If your game isn't saved to the console, you lose the ability to play it if the servers go down. On pc you would lose the ability to mod games because you dont have the games files. No hardcore gamer would give up control over the game just for less lag. Every year we get closer to having lag-less games anyway, why trade what you have for something less? Sony is looking into the next generation, I bet they've been looking at it since before ps3 was released (they always do  )But the amount of money they lost from the Ps3 is too much for them to be able to release another console anytime soon. Price wise, Ps4 wouldn't be more than Ps3's original price. They made the console smallaer and cut the price in half, by that you can assume its going to get better tech and have it be the same size as a 'fat' Ps3 for the same cost. If anything the price should be less, they found out how to make the ps3 for a lot cheaper than before so by the time they're ready for ps4, the tech they already have from the ps3 should be cheap and you would be paying for the new tech instead. | 2010-08-07 20:17:00 Author: Bremnen Posts: 1800 |
| Microsoft have recently been buying up rights to license certain hardware recently. Speculation is that that is in prep for the next xbox.... I'd imagine both companies are seriously thinking about and investigating where to take their hardware architectures for the next gen. Remember that while devs are pushing back the bounds of what can be achieved on a given platform, a custom hw architecture takes a while to develop and you don't want to wait for the devs to max out potential before starting on your redesign. It's not like intel, doing incremental updates on the same architecture every 6 months, this is a complete system redesign from the ground up, and has to last for what is a very long life cycle in consumer technology terms sony is planning to use the same kind of PSU so developing will still be as hard apparantly. | 2010-08-07 23:50:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824 |
| With all the dead launch units...mine included...I learned a lesson myself. | 2010-08-08 01:13:00 Author: BasketSnake  Posts: 2391 |
| sony is planning to use the same kind of PSU so developing will still be as hard apparantly. I heard that with upcoming hardware sony will be working closely with the developers to give the the features they need for ease of use and to make the games as good as possible. So you can see the next generation of handhelds and home consoles being dev friendly and powerful. | 2010-08-08 09:33:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| I heard that with upcoming hardware sony will be working closely with the developers to give the the features they need for ease of use and to make the games as good as possible. So you can see the next generation of handhelds and home consoles being dev friendly and powerful. ah, good. very good. | 2010-08-08 09:36:00 Author: oldage Posts: 2824 |
| The harsh reality is that there is no PS4 coming soon and Sony didn't announce anything --- not even to devellopers. Thing is, THERE IS research right now at Sony and they are probably starting to plan their next console ... because it's always like that. And lately Microsoft and Sony said there wouldn't be another generation of console for 2-3 years from now. Why? Because they think Move and Kinect will make them last for that 2-3 years again before they feel the need to offer something new to people. Before Kinect and Move has been known to people on the internet, they all thought new consoles would come out 5 years late (therefore 2011 and 2012). Not because they know something but just because of experience. It appearted safe to them that since new consoles are usually coming out like every 5 years the same could happen again. Now they know this won't happen and that our current PS3/360 will obviously last for 3 years again so this is why you see the rumors shifting to 2014. So yeah, seriously, they know nothing. Move along, have fun with the current consoles that are far from being outdated yet anyways. . | 2010-08-08 22:44:00 Author: RangerZero  Posts: 3901 |
| So yeah, seriously, they know nothing. Move along, have fun with the current consoles that are far from being outdated yet anyways. Question: how can the last generation of something be outdated? | 2010-08-08 23:25:00 Author: gdn001 Posts: 5891 |
| Question: how can the last generation of something be outdated? Because you can get far more power from a top of the line PC these days? | 2010-08-09 01:21:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| Question: how can the last generation of something be outdated? I didn't meant it in the way we are not supposed to play them anymore. Good videogames are like good movies, they aren't really getting "outdated". I meant that at some point, the sales are not there anymore and the competition begins to offer products that are of higher fidelity so you're pressed on making some new hardware. Right now the PS3/360 aren't rushing in sales and forecasts are looking good. They both have multiple years left before having to be replaced. Also, the more time passes by, the less those machines will need to be "replaced". Each generation, each leap in visual and sound fidelity that we proceed into is a step towards the inevitable "comfort zone" that people will reach someday. The more we advance towards that zone, the longer the generations should be. . | 2010-08-09 05:49:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901 |
| Also, the more time passes by, the less those machines will need to be "replaced". Each generation, each leap in visual and sound fidelity that we proceed into is a step towards the inevitable "comfort zone" that people will reach someday. The more we advance towards that zone, the longer the generations should be. . Maybe, but man last generation the PS2 looked fantastic... Higher resolution displays will also make visual flaws much more evident in the future. That being said, yay for moores law. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law) | 2010-08-09 06:03:00 Author: microchirp Posts: 412 |
| I didn't meant it in the way we are not supposed to play them anymore. Good videogames are like good movies, they aren't really getting "outdated". I meant that at some point, the sales are not there anymore and the competition begins to offer products that are of higher fidelity so you're pressed on making some new hardware. Right now the PS3/360 aren't rushing in sales and forecasts are looking good. They both have multiple years left before having to be replaced. Also, the more time passes by, the less those machines will need to be "replaced". Each generation, each leap in visual and sound fidelity that we proceed into is a step towards the inevitable "comfort zone" that people will reach someday. The more we advance towards that zone, the longer the generations should be. . HAha oh that made me laugh, you saying PS3 and 360 aren't rushing in sales. Now your not wrong but yesterday I read an article saying both PSP and PA3 have had a sudden rush in sales in japan so it was quite humerus | 2010-08-09 08:35:00 Author: robotiod Posts: 2662 |
| HAha oh that made me laugh, you saying PS3 and 360 aren't rushing in sales. Now your not wrong but yesterday I read an article saying both PSP and PA3 have had a sudden rush in sales in japan so it was quite humerus Yes, Japan is the place where there's the less consoles are sold. People in Asia really are shifting towards portables. Also, the PS3 and 360 sales can look really freaking bad if you compare them to the extremely successful Wii. But still, they aren't on a downward slope and as I said earlier, forecasts are good. What might press on Sony and Microsoft to pull out a console before 2014/2015 thought could be that Nintendo Wii's successor would happen next year and takes all the sales again. Sony and Microsoft sure wouldn't want to be double crossed. . | 2010-08-10 06:16:00 Author: RangerZero Posts: 3901 |
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